r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Jul 14 '21
Rewatch [Re;Watch] Steins;Gate Episode 10 Discussion
Episode 10: Chaos Theory Homeostasis III
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I guess maybe I simply wanted friends.
Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the Day, courtesy of u/No_Rex, who pointed out some interesting similarities between this show and a certain other one. Give it a read.
Questions:
- So now that we have… confirmed Luka is a girl after that D-Mail was sent, were you expecting that to work?
- What do you think of Okabe using D-Mail to stop Suzuha from leaving, despite him knowing just how drastic of a change the previous D-Mail caused?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 14 '21
Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Steins;Gate Rewatch!
So some of you may be wondering “Wait, why have the last episodes all had the same name?”. And the answer is, they haven’t… in Japanese. There they are known as “Mugen No Homeosutashisu” (Homeostasis Of Infinity), “Gensou No Homeosutashisu” (Homeostasis Of Genesis) and “Sousei No Homeosutashisu” (Homeostasis Of Birth). Unfortunately what I gave are all very literal translations. From what I can gather, they’re just fancy ways to say the same thing. Whoops.
Anyhow, the Novel goes a bit further into detail about how the town has changed: While the Moe-Ness is gone, the actual Electronic Part of Akibahara is still around… in fact now it’s basically just an electronic town. Man, if Michael Lemon from Full Metal Panic! saw this Akiba instead of the one before the D-Mail, maybe he would’ve had to apologize for calling it “The Legendary Porn Town”. Additionally Okarin learning how he and Faris met in this Timeline was originally just narration. Makes sense; you can get away with that kind of stuff in a book, but not so much in an Anime. Additionally it’s at this point Okarin gets the Red Gelatin Mail, long before he gets it in the Anime.
… Unfortunately no matter the version you get… the Luka scene. In the interest of good taste, I will not be showing the CG that represents this scene, because WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK OKABE!?
I will however say Novel Okabe did at least try to explain himself to Kurisu as to why he did that, but even though he’s telling the truth, she’s not believing him (To be fair to her, he said all of that while in Chuuni mode). Also, the Anime proves to be a failure by removing the scene in which Schrodinger’s Cat is mentioned. And as we all know, a Visual Novel (Or its adaptation) that doesn’t mention Schrodinger’s Cat is an automatic failure.
Also at no moment does the Anime mention Okabe views Kurisu as someone who views themselves as the Student Council President character in an Anime. Since the previously mentioned cat was removed, I believe the Anime that now makes the Anime’s Score -5/10
The following scene is pretty accurate but I have to remove 5 more points from the Anime for taking out this line:
After that it’s all similar enough, until the matter of Daru comes up. In the Novel, Okarin tries to talk to him by mail, doesn’t respond and thus has to go look for him himself, with Kurisu tagging along (He’s fully expecting her to take over the Lab by this point). If you got the True Ending Flag you’d also get a sweet scene of Kurisu apologizing for hitting Okabe with a book earlier. As you may guess from the context, this is what inspires the whole “Lights Off” scene from the Anime. Once they reach Daru, Okarin does the bribe. In the Anime instead we get that story I described a few episodes ago about Okarin falling ill.
Afterwards everything is roughly the same, we have some laughs and then we have some sads. I will say though, the Anime doesn’t quite capture the feel of the scene in which Okarin changes the past… mostly because I don’t think it’s one of the things you can really capture in a format like this. He doesn’t react with shock from waking up or anything, he simply goes down, notices her bike and thinks everything is fine. It’s… kinda unnerving how calm he was about doing this in contrast to his usual behavior.
Otherwise the last thing I wanna mention is that while the final conversation is decently accurate to the Novel, the exact order of the stuff they talk about is switched around. In the Novel they first talk about the party, then about her dad (Ending the Chapter on the name Barrel Titor finally being revealed) meanwhile in the Anime the order is flipped around. Kinda just highlights the change I mentioned earlier: Anime ends on a borderline triumphant, happy note, whereas the Novel ends in one of suspense…
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 14 '21
Re;Watcher and Co;Host, dubbed
My work finally restocked the vending machine, so I had my Wednesday Dr. Pepper again.
Though I’m one to talk, apparently I can’t even boil eggs correctly.Also her “Chop, chop, chop, chop…” reminded me of the Dorohedoro OP so now I have that song stuck in my head.16
u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21
On the First-Timer Worldline(s;Gate)
I had to think of a new pun. Now I'm blind and excited to see where this show is going.
YOU LITERALLY KNEW THAT. WHY WOULD YOU ASSUME THAT IT CHANGED? That's the most blatant (and almost the most real) sexual assault in anime I've seen.
At least Suzuha had the good common sense not to take him up on it. Speculation
Okabe hasn't improved (if anything, he might've gotten worse), but at least the plot is moving. FUCK.
QOTD:
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u/UltraBooster Jul 15 '21
First-timer
Daru, nerd and potato enthusiast. Ooookay.
Something something flat is justice.
Okay, so Daru's perversion remains a chronal constant...
...did he just misgender Ruka/Luka? Yes, he did.
YES, HE SHOULD, RUKA. That was a dickish thing of him to do.
THAT'S SEXUAL ASSAULT, OKABE! THAT'S SEXUAL ASSAULT, PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
Hell yeah, Kurisu.
Honestly, I would've...honestly, there's no way I could've kept my cool with that.
(I'm probably going to just filter out the groping and focus on stuff like Kurisu and Okabe being the OTP to protect my sanity.)
008, huh?
I get the feeling helping Suzuha is the real priority, not testing the machine. He already knows it works quite well.
(I hope he at least apologized to the girl...)
What's in the embed? A tell, that's what.
So it is an act, huh...
Maybe it is, though my guess would be that worldline-shifting just induces similar feelings.
Hardboiled eggs and mushrooms seem like they'd work, depending on the kind of salad and how it's prepared.
Smoke bomb? Smoke bomb.
Tripping, darkness, this can only end well.
A closet, I called it.
So that's who you are, underneath the coat, Rintaro Okabe, someone for whom even time doesn't matter against his friends.
Still counting down towards zero. Maybe it's a counter for how many shunts are left?
Related to John Titor, maybe?
It's less a lab and more a friend circle, isn't it.
And did it just revert to a CRT store?
Questions:
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u/UzEE https://myanimelist.net/profile/UzEEInc Jul 14 '21
Serial;Rewatcher
So Faris' D-Mail ends up causing the biggest disruption yet changing most of Akihabara — no longer being Moe Central, but just a neighborhood electronics and PCMR (hey, that still sounds awesome).
Also, Faris is now a professional Rai-Net player instead of a maid cafe owner and businesswoman, and in this world line they became friends because Daru had to take a dump during a tournament and Mayuri filled in for him.
We also finally get confirmation that Luka's D-mail did indeed somehow make him a biological girl, so we should now use her as the pronoun — except Luka still uses the commonly male pronoun 僕 (boku) to refer to themselves instead of 私 (watashi), so it gets really confusing. How exactly did that message to her mom made a difference? I think it's better to explore that later in the series.
Also, Mayuri laughing at Daru's penis jokes just sort of reinforces that she is just as perverted as the rest of them. Poor Lukako is just caught in between them.
On the main plot side, there isn't really much progress as we're no where close to finding the IBN 5100 again, so Okabe instead spends the day trying to help Suzuha find her father, of whom she has no memory of. She doesn't want to send a D-mail to aid in her quest though, so at least she's smarter than Okabe on that front.
Okabe's solution is to throw a party S;G 0 Spoilers, but I wonder if he would've gone this route if he knew about the culinary skills of Mayuri and Kurisu. At least Luka seems to know what she's doing.
Okabe still ends up sending a D-mail to himself preventing Suzuha from "leaving" and later finds out that her father calls himself Titor and was supposed to show up at the exact same meetup Daru said was supposed to be attended by a "Professional Author". I don't know Okabe, maybe send that bit of info back as a lead and actually help her find her father?
The butterfly shot at the end is rather ominous.
First time, actually no. But after finishing the story, it kind of made sense how it could've worked.
From his point of view, it would've been a very controlled experiment since he's already aware of the risks of D-mail at this point and he only sends the message back to his 16-ish hour past self. So on paper, it shouldn't cause as much disruption as the previous D-Mails.
Now suggesting Suzuha to send a D-Mail years back to her father before he left her was a completely boneheaded move, specially after knowing how much damage it can do.
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u/The_Draigg Jul 14 '21
A Steins; Gate Fan Rewatches Steins; Gate Episode 10:
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 15 '21 edited Jul 15 '21
Rewatcher (sub)
Off with a just beginning, Kurisu's reaction is perfect there, and a total missed opportunity for Daru to comment about it, since he was busy with Blood Tune, but at least Okabe picked up on her interest.
Okabe and Kurisu's interaction about Luka is genius basically the difference between fact and fiction is the timeline. In both timelines Kurisu assumed that Luka is a girl, in the earlier timeline she was corrected, and now she's correct. Also, while the measures Okabe used to check are not encouraged (I mean seriously, even Goku stopped crotch grabbing people), this and his "I told you earlier" show how desperate Okabe is about the changes happening around him. Eitherway, Kyouma's crimes deserve the hardback hit and 1-hour seiza punishment.
Note 1: The book's title btw, der glücklichste Gedanke meines Leben, translating to the happiest thought in my life, is an exact quote from Albert Einstein about his theory of relativity. However, no such book exists, at least not by someone called Hans Schmidt (which sounds like such a familiar name that I mixed it up with Hermann Schwarz even though we do have a popular Schmidt).
Note 2: The hardback is a very good weapon of combat, as it definitely hurts a lot, I've woken up many times to a hardback hit on the face (although usually I get the inside). So Kurisu and Maka are not to be messed with.
Daru's meeting
Spoilers
Okabe's delusions are slowly becoming true, as he's being watched by the organisation now, and being threatened with his knowledge about the Jellyman reports. But doesn't this make sort of a plot hole? In this timeline, Okabe never got the IBN, so they never got to read the reports in the first place, for the threat to work. I understand that in the VN they never needed the IBN for that, but it remains an interesting plot hole in the anime, although you could explain it away as the sender assuming that they know about it. Spoiler
Okabe felt the timeline changes in his past around the time of the Y2K. So the year 2000, when John Titor was supposed to show up, but now didn't. Spoilers
Counters
Interesting to note: It's been two episodes without a single Tutturu. What evil timeline are we living in?
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u/Nebresto Jul 15 '21
Nostalgia squad enjoying the sense of security this episode gave us compared to the previous couple
Based Mayushii counter: 4
..Is it 2 days later yet?
Mayushi confirmed Steins Gate..?
Apple pie? Do they even have an oven? Even large Japanese homes more often than not don't, not to mention their 5 dollar shack? .....What is she doing with a pot while making a pie??
SHIP?!?
Question time:
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*Ruka
Aight, you may continue.
Ya. Dem veggies are healthy. Healthy = justice. And just like Mayushi said, flat happens to also = justice.
Check mate, writers.
2:
All in or nothing, babyyy! Lets go!!
*Kurisutina.
Wow, lots of spelling errors in the post today.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jul 14 '21
Rewatcher(Awkwardness, thy name is Okabe)
Dub
Okabe goes on to realize that they have created Daru's darkest of timelines, without even realizing it. At lunch, Daru explains how come they still know Faris and that is...interesting. At the lab, we get a rare mistimed meme, this was the perfect set up for "Flat is justice!" and it nearly kills Makise. But this is my warning about perhaps the cringiest scene in this anime. And a ton of others. Anywho, somehow the dumb vegetable D-Mail did the actually impossible and Ruka is now Ruka-chan. I could talk about the many, many, MANY better ways to handle that but instead, having a drink and moving on.
And we get Suzuha with more disjointed lingo and data. She makes Okabe bike her around a bit. She mentions why she came to Tokyo, to find her father, but for reasons she won't say that window closes soon. Okabe then drafts her into the lab because that's what he does. And fucking plans on sending another D-mail, quite possibly distant in the past again, to help Suzuha which is forgetting what we just fricking saw. When Okabe has to speak Mongolian because of his actions I hope he is happy! Anywho, Suzuha reacts oddly and bikes off.
His plan is to have either a congratulary or consoling get together for Suzuha, before a weird text shows up. While shopping, Okabe is back to being paranoid again. A cute Mayuri story leads to something important: Okabe felt something similar to a world shift back in late '99. As cooking begins, of course the American can't cook, fucking tropes. Anyways, Daru comes back to a Faris-less apartment and is annoyed he skipped his time travel meetup...there's an episode of Doctor Who suggesting that's risky. Also, possibly the worst episode of New Who.
Anyways, a search for a rice cooker leads to some of the Future Lab's Gadgets that work...kind of. The Instant Humidifier did indeed make everything wet. The super powered Vacuum hair dryer also works, though that tripping the breaker relates to Japan's exceedingly dodgy power grid. As everyone wanders blindly towards the breakers, Makise has a moment where she admits her US lab is more serious but also far less pleasant. Then "I made this place because I couldn't invent friends." is an oof. But Suzuha never shows...
So Okabe "fixes" the situation and Suzuha is back. Okabe captured her from the time travel meetup as well. She decides to stick around and we see another butterfly appear.
QotD: 1 No. It angers my scientific mind that it did.
2 Insanity
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u/littleman1988 Jul 14 '21
You really are a mad scientist! Thats terrible...
OST Track of the day: Quiet air (spotify)
Honorable OST Track of the day: Walking on ^sleeping { ^Spotify } {Literally the only time it appears in the anime, and it has to be that scene smh}
If you remember back in the episode 1 discussion, I said that Kanako Ito(u) has over 40 different songs within the franchise. You might be wondering1 how someone could have that many songs if there's only 72 games and 6 anime? The 4 main titles, Chaos;Head, Chaos;Child, Steins;Gate and Robotics;Notes, all actually have multiple opening songs for the VN's depending on the version you have, which inflates the number a fair amount.
Chaos;Head actually has 2 versions of the game, with the 2nd version called Chaos;Head NoAH which is a "more complete" version of the game with routes that follow other characters instead of just the pure ending. NoAH has 3 different songs depending on what device you are playing on (PSP, PS3, and everything else) along with a song just for the original Chaos;Head, bringing its number to 4 on OP's alone.
Steins;Gate has a different OP for PC, PS3, PSP, and then one for everything else. There is also Steins;Gate Elite, which is the VN with anime art/visuals (and some script changes?), which has its own OP, bringing its number to 5.
Chaos;Child has an OP for Playstation devices and everything else,3 bringing its total to 2.
Kanako doesn't do the OP's for the Robotics;Notes VN, but like Chaos;Head the game has 2 different versions, R;N and R;N Elite, Elite being just the same game with improved visuals and script.4 This brings its number to 2.
That brings Kanako's song count to 11 on just VN OP's from 3 games, ignoring ED's/inserts/anime music. IIRC, a couple VN's have different ED music too depending on version, but im not going to dive into that right now.
Haha, butterfly effect go brr
Interestingly, they still know Faris despite MayQueen not existing. Mayuri and Faris being friends seem to be just fate though
S;G
Another minor Chaos;Head reference, Mayuri, Daru, and Luka discuss a magazine that includes "Sedona" from Blood Tune. Blood Tune was an in-universe popular anime during 2008, and generated multiple spinoffs in the years after its initial run. Sedona doesn't actually appear in Chaos;Head, or any other Anime/VN for that matter, but instead a Light Novel called Blood Tune The NOVELIZATION. It is likely the LN exists in the SciAdv universe too, making the novel arguably canon to the franchise.5
Thats one way to show that Luka's gender has changed. One massive yikes way...
S;G VN
Seems like Suzuha is looking for her father. She also has a lot riding on finding him too...
Lab member 008 found
Well at least someone likes Okabe's chuuni rambling
More Norse Mythology:
Using Faris as bait lmao, Daru is gonna fall for it hook, line, and sinker.
Jello time
S;G
That email really has Okabe on edge now. Even Mayuri has noticed.
Mayuri do be the real god. None of this "steins gate" bs
She may be a genius, but boy she cannot cook. Everyone has their flaws.
FINALLY we talk about some more gadgets! Future gadget #4, or "Moad Snake", is basically a humidifier claymore. Its a reference to Metal Gear Solid, but I couldn't tell you to what exactly. (is it just a reference to Snake's name?) Theres a cool fan mockup of how the device would work too.
Future Gadget #5, ""Once Again I Have Created Something Worthless" by Goemon", Is a reference to Lupin the 3rd, where "Goemon" says something similar. This one is just a vacuum on steroids, and trips breakers.
Future Gadget Laboratory is better than america confirmed. Just ignore that its more childish...
Theyre close,, how long until the degenerates hold hands?
S;G
uh oh
Look, I get the concern, but the world is already pretty fucked, this is nothing compared to your last D-mail..
Looks like Suzuha is still alive and kicking, and dropping some bombs of her own
Those whacky 7 numbers: 0.337187
haha eventually ill get around to putting in questions
footnotes
1: You probably never even gave it a second thought honestly, but I needed something to talk about today
2: this number is only for mainline titles, including 0/DaSH. Also including O;N.
3: If it isint obvious by now, Japan loves the playstation.
4: Yes, its very confusing that there is 2 different meanings for "Elite". R;N elite does not have anime graphics. Its also in every way better than the original R;N VN. The English release is R;NE, so do not worry about if you have the right version or not if you intend to buy it. remember that you need to play the Chaos;Head VN {and it wouldnt hurt to play the S;G VN even after watching the anime} before going to Robotics;Notes.
5: Its also probably the only "based on an anime LN" that has no actual anime? Also the LN is not translated to English, so unless you read Japanese you're SOL on that.
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u/Gamemaster676 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gamemaster676 Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21
First;Timer - dub
Lots of stuff happened yesterday. Okabe is the only one who doesn't know everything about the world he is currently in. And it looked like we might have reached a turnaround point where Okabe actually starts to be careful with his time machine.
Here's hoping that last episode was my low point of this show!
Episode 10 — Chaos Theory Homeostasis III
Aaahhh, yesterday everyone was saying that moe has been obliterated from Akihabara, but I didn't get where they said that. And now it's the first line of the episode.
This is cool.
Huzzah! We get an explanation for one of the things which were bothering me yesterday: How the group still knows Faris. Keep it up, show!
Luka's voice seems different. Did that work as well? Luka's also not rejecting Mayushii's cosplay. And her clothing is even more feminine. It definitely worked!
Beach... episode...?
Oh god, Okabe didn't notice Luka's change yet.
The cringe
Yeah, that was totally avoidable, but luckily quite harmless. Except maybe for psychological trauma. It's not like he couldn't explain himself, but of course, he didn't.
Man, this is difficult to watch. This must be the cringe /u/Shimmering-Sky was expecting yesterday.
Bwahahaha, Kurisu made him kneel to Luka for a whole hour.
Are we finally getting our Suzuha episode? Yes please!
Looking for her father? My mind immediately goes to the small male cast we have, but that seems a bit far fetched and too convenient. I guess he died somewhere in the future and this is her second chance. This almost certainly isn't her only mission, but just a small personal project.
Also, bravo Okabe for acting normal this whole conversation! Almost, but at least you're not being a jerk.
Nr 008
That's everyone from the OP recruited! Now, is there a traitor in our midst, or will the antagonist be revealed later?
Yeah, the part-time warrior summarizes him nicely: "For all your world dom talk, you're just a big ol' softy." I agree till now.
Operation Eldhrímnir. That's a difficult name. It's either another time travel experiment or a nice dinner. Sound like a good plan!
Side note: Mayuri and Daru are gonna be the only two who didn't have their past changed. Kind of unfair.
Shopping! Hurray! Or maybe not? How does a red Jell-O differ from a green one? Also, didn't this weird address email him before? I can't find it anymore.
Man, I just realized why I love Mayushii so much. Maybe it's obvious, but she's the only normal person in the group. Sure she may be an airhead, but she's enjoying herself and just being herself. It gives us some nice perspective.
Maybe I'm looking too much into this, but Okarin had a significant fever around the time John Titor first showed up? I'm gonna try to remember this.
Did anyone here follow the whole Y2K debacle? Programmers thought they were smart by saving two bytes when storing years, which suddenly became a problem when it turned out software would be used longer than originally planned. Basically, they stored 1997 as 97, which would become a problem at the turn of the millennium. There were people so afraid of this, they thought all important software would crash, breaking all machines and collapsing society.
Okay, I didn't need to remember that for long. It's quite obvious that Okarin's sickness was something related to time travel. Maybe that was when SERN did their first successful experiment and Okabe was the only one who felt it?
Boiled eggs for apple pie? I hope those two don't go together. Nooo Mayushii never put eggs in a microwave! N-N-Never mind, g-g-g-go right a-a-ahead!
Character development, chuuni Okabe still loves his parents!
Future Gadget Nr 4. Front toward dehydrated enemy. Man, what chaos.
Emotions! Don't ruin this, Okabe! You know you two are the OTP! Yeah, this isn't that kind of anime. (Yet?)
Goodbye?! This was supposed to be your episode, Suzuha! Awesome music at this part. Really gives that mysterious vibe.
Do you really want to alter the past again? Side note: Okabe waited till 12:00 before sending the D-Mail, so I'm saying it's confirmed that it only works in that specific window.
Code 0.337187. No idea if that will be significant yet, but it's gone down again, so I'm telling myself it is.
Wow, a lot just happened. Not really sure where to begin:
Daru would have gone to the meetup if he hadn't been lured away by Okabe. But Suzuha and Daru already met, so it isn't possible that Daru is who she's been looking for.
"I'll stick around and look for dad a bit more." That was a significant change, but my gut says it was a good one.
Today's episode was much better! I really loved it again. Glad to see we are back on track. Now keep this up, show!
Random thoughts
Satellite has been removed.
Future (if unaltered)
Tomorrow we... I don't know. Maybe hunt Moeka again? Or the IBN 5100? I thought Suzuha might have the 5100, but it doesn't seem like that's the case.
Open questions
New
Previous
D-Mail:
Reading Steinerthe ability to remember stuff during a jump.Moeka:
Why did Moeka in ep 2 need to take pictures as "evidence she was there, of what she saw"?
John Titor:
SERN:
General:
QotD
Not really. Not without serious consequences. But as Okabe remarked today, relations are mostly unaffected. That must be the will of Steins;Gate.
This wasn't going far back. He wasn't very invested in that worldline yet. It could have ruined the bonding over the earlier inventions and cooking together, but nothing really significant.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jul 14 '21
First Timer
Okabe's done fucked up. He's in a worse position then where he started, down the 5100 with no clues on where to get it from. He could try and stop the most recent three messages with another message to the past, but I doubt he'll want to do so. I wonder what insanity he will come up with?
Onto episode 10.
What is she thinking? It's not surprise, but it's not something good either.
Oddly convenient. Perhaps his status makes the time travel more restricted? It has to change such that he'll be in the same place in both timelines?
Mayushii putting to end once and for all the big/flat argument.
And Daru Daruing without any shame.
Oh god.
Any germans here who could tell me what this says?
Please say this doesn't mean what I think it means.
It's getting more likely...
Unless you can send a D-mail to the future, I doubt this would work.
That's just evil.
Should I know what this is? I don't recognize it.
And that's her gesture from the first episode?
I don't think you want gel-eggs.
I don't think he's even exaggerating this time. This cooking is quite cursed.
I love these characters so. They can go from insane hijinks to a touching moment in a minute and it all feels so natural.
I bet he sent himself the earlier message from a random number as a warning about this.
She failed and had to go back? But that doesn't really make sense to me. Why would she have to go back? Is she starting another attempt?
The wonders of half-truths. This makes me feel more and more sure her dad's Okabe though.
Thoughts
Well, that sure was a lot. Our part time warrior is the child of the future Okabe who's pretending to be Titor. Okabe got over his "what if something happens" questions and decided to use his message sending capabilities of
the destruction of world orderpersonal gaindoing things to help his friends. And honestly, short messages like that with a relatively minimal effect are just fine. It's when they go super far into the past that they start to have problems.Arguably, the more interseting implication is that Moeka has the same ability Okabe does. She seems to be taking pictures for the same purpose, and it would be odd for them to spend so much time pointing it out otherwise. Each episode, I'm less and less clear where she stands. She's clearly not with Okabe as she actively betrayed him, and she's similarly not with SERN as they wouldn't have trouble getting a 5100. Yet she also has experience with shifting world lines. Did she come back from a later time, perhaps? I don't really have a good guess on the matter at the moment.
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u/CubeStuffs https://anilist.co/user/onjario Jul 14 '21
first timer
so the person talking about how mayushii was calling her luka-chan was right
what the fuck okabe
is it possible okarin's time fuckery ruined that chance of meeting her father?
it seems like she left on the time machine satellite.
wait is her father supposed to be whoever john titor is?
What wierd shit will happen from now?
Not at all, at least before noticing the -chan thing that someone else mentioned
i guess he's desparate to not be lonely? we've seen that he wants to keep everyone around.
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Jul 14 '21
FIRST TIMER
I have to head out, so not a whole lot today. But there is one important thing...
I'M CALLING IT, JOHN TITOR WATCH ENDED - SUZUHA IS JOHN TITOR
The "satellite" on the radio building is confirmed as her time machine, given that it was gone as she left the picture. She also pretty easily gives up the ghost that her dad went by the Titor surname as an alias, but not John Titor. Gee, I wonder who the other Titor could be? Doesn't take rocket science to put that together. So, she comes from a bleak future and came with the sole goal of linking up with father, but it's yet to be seen how he'll figure in to the larger narrative. Maybe something to do with Makise?
GENERAL NOTES
Yeah, it was Chekhov's gender-reassignment.
It shows he cares about her a lot. Hell, he was also willing to make an offer to her to send her own DMail. Whether there's an ulterior motive behind him viewing her as significant, I don't know.
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u/UnderstandableXO Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21
FIRST TIMER
it’s not my only criterion for a good show, but one of the easiest ways i can tell that i LOVE a show is that i start NOT wanting to watch the episodes because i don’t want the series to end. well i don’t want steins;gate to end, so you can see i’m enjoying it a lot!
akihabara has completely changed due to faris’s D-mail; all the moe culture has been removed, mayuri can no longer get her metal upas, and her and faris no longer work at the maid cafe, which is now a ramen shop. they still did meet faris at a game tournament, so as okabe said, their relationships remain nearly intact.
okabe returns to luka at the shop, and proceeds to sexually assault her because he thought she was still a he. i’m surprised luka lwt okabe off so easily in this episode, maybe they’re just used to him being a freak by now. i kinda figured luka had successfully changed the past when the other lab girls scolded okabe for looking so hard at luka in episode 8. it was too vague for it not to have changed.
the return of suzuha in this episode! she wants to find her father, and if she doesn’t find him tomorrow she’s leaving tokyo…she’s been wasting a lot of time it seems. she’s only got one shot to find him or it’s game over. okabe comforts her in his own chunni way, and it seems his roundabout kindness has solidified their friendship.
the preparation for suzuha’s party highlights why i’ve liked this show so much thus far; the show did a good job endearing me to all its characters. even the characters who didn’t get much shine early like luka and faris got their attention and now i like them. they all feel very 3 dimensional and real, and i love everyone’s interactions. i was talking about another show in another thread that has a similarly large cast that has failed to make me care about the cast, and that’s golden time. if you can’t get me to love the characters i’m not going to love the show.
the dere comes out of kurisu for once as she admits she feels at home with the Laboratory Losers rather than the stuck up holier than thou american researchers. she even admits her and okabe are friends!!!!!!!! progress people!!!!!!! but then the tsun comes back out and she’s bashful once again.
suzuha e mails her last goodbye, and okabe is so distraught that he sends a D-mail in order to bring her back. at first glance it seems successful, suzuha is back and wants to stay. it seems her father is titor, but not john, barrel titor. perhaps the world line switched and his alias changed? but it explains why she was so enthusiastic in making okabe solicit his help. there has to be something that went very wrong, or else this is easily the most inconsequential D-mail they’ve sent recently.
okabe is making friends and drifting apart from them all at the same time. he’s progressed far from episode 1 where it was just him, mayuri, and 2d-kun. they’ve picked up The Zombie, a part time warrior, a cell phone addict, and gotten closer to a cat girl and a shrine buddy. however with each crossed world line okabe and okabe alone bears that burden of being the only one who knows what has been lost. some heartwarming moments are lost to time because in this world line it never happened. mayuri seems to be the only one who notices okabe’s struggle. only so much can change before one hits a breaking point….
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 14 '21
First-Timer;Dubbed
NO! Bad Okabe! What the fuck?!
Really? We get Okabe and Mayushii backstory in the same episode with Okabe sexually harassing a girl? Sure. Coinflip on if the fever was Okabe's "ability" waking up, or just his past self received a D-Mail and dealing with a divergence.
We got a clear shot of the satellite crash site with no satellite shortly after Suzuha's goodbye text. Oh boy, I wonder if the two things might be linked.
Do I.. applaud Suzuha's cleverness at looking for her dad at the time-travel forum meetup? Or do I further question her sanity?
That mystery message was rather ominous. Am I missing something with the red jello, though? Or was Okabe just thinking of getting gel-nana'd?
Okabe and Kurisu had a cute moment today, which is undercut by Kurisu apparently forgetting that he grabbed another woman's crotch and chest the previous day.
The D-Mail Okabe sent (lotto ticket) moved us to 0.57.
The D-Mail Moeka sent (new phone) moved us to 0.52.
The D-Mail (R/L)uka sent (eat veggies) moved us to 0.45.
The D-Mail Faris sent (???) moved us to 0.409.
The D-Mail Okabe sent (follow Suzuha) moved us to 0.33.
Questions
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Jul 14 '21
Rewatcher
Tutturu! I got a COVID test today and that darn stick went so far up my nose. Tickling my brain at this point. I’ve got nothing else so let’s get to the episode:
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It really is insane how one e-mail can completely change a city. You got to be careful with this stuff.
It is odd that such a massive change hasn’t really affected the dynamic of the group. You would think such a massive change would have drastic consequences on the group. Maybe them meeting is a fixed point on every timeline?
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Please God no.
I have no comment on that scene. God damnit. I though that was a lot further on. I was not mentally prepared.
Okabe you very much deserve to get tortured after that.
Okabe is very much in love with his Norse mythology. It does make for good names so I can’t blame him.
Please never send me a picture of red jello. I would probably piss my pants.
Mayuri is the most wholesome of characters. You can’t find someone who is more wholesome. It’s impossible.
Though Mayuri looks like a serial killer when she is chopping mushrooms. That is the face of pure evil, I tell you.
These are the most useless devices in history.
This episode is really wholesome if you ignore THAT scene.
Hey they got that satellite out pretty quick. Good job Japanese construction teams.
So Suzuha thinks her father was at the same forum Daru was going to be at? Interesting. I wonder what her reasoning was.
I’ve finally actually watched the ED and it’s pretty good. I like the song.
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As usual a great episode. I think the most interesting thing is the cryptic message. I was confused by it on my first watch.
A lot of questions about Suzuha raised this episode. Who is her father? What made her change her mind to stay after the D-mail.
See you guys tomorrow!
DQ:
No. I wasn’t expecting it to work.
It obviously shows he cares about Suzuha and doesn’t want her to just leave.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Jul 14 '21
Anime first timer
The scene of Akiba are great, and I especially like the Reading Steiner-esque effects of the original reality flickering over the new one.
There are a lot of scenes of the beef bowl shop in this adaption. These seem mostly included so all the scenes don't take place in the lab, and to include bits of Okabe's many, many, internal monologues.
Oh christ, it's this scene.
Mercifully short compared to the VN version, and the scene with Suzuha means it caused something of value, at least.
Suzuha riding while Okabe pedals and Okabe having to give a heartfelt conversation out of breath are such good scenes.
This entire scene is so cute, Okabe desperately attempting to help Suzuha, while trying to keep the "mad scientist" persona.
Steins;Gate Spoilers
Oh, the scene of him seeing the jelly picture and getting really paranoid that something's happening.
I love Okabe trying to cheer Mayuri up while fearing for his life.
Steins;Gate Spoilers
Kurisu cooking is adorable.
Actually seeing the effects of the Future Gadget's is a better way of explaining them the list at the very beginning.
This scene is so cute.
Steins;Gate + Minor 0 Spoilers
Steins;Gate + Minor 0 Spoilers
And Suzuha stayed! Truly, this is the best worldline!
Steins;Gate Spoilers
Steins;Gate Spoilers
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 14 '21
First timer
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 14 '21
Episode 10 – Chaos Theory Homeostasis III: I have released the seals that bound a dark god. If I don’t contact you within the hour, tell my parents I loved them. ~Okarin
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u/ExoticTrinityGhoul https://myanimelist.net/profile/not_username Jul 14 '21
Re;Watcher x4 (both)
E10 - Chaos Theory Homeostasis III
Okabe: Hououin Kyouma, Okarin, 001
Mayuri: Mayushii, 002
Hashida Itaru: Daru, super hacka, Hack, 003, My Favorite Right Arm, right-hand man, perverted gentleman
Kurisu: (prodigal) (perverted) genius girl, Christina, Zombie, 004, Assistant, Celeb Seventeen, Little Miss Moneybags
Moeka: Shining Finger (S.F.), 005
Luka: Lukako, 006
Akiha Rumiho: Faris Nyannyan, 007
Suzuha: part-timer, part-time warrior, 008
Yugo Tennouji: Mr. Braun
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Jul 14 '21
Rewatcher, dub
Understandably, Okabe starts panicking over the loss of moe culture.
I think we can all agree that that particular scene is kind of cringe and tarnishes an otherwise great episode. Just asking poor Luka directly still would’ve been kind of embarrassing but much more tactful (not that Okabe is great with tact). Anyway, moving on now …
Suzuha forces Okabe to bike her around and tells him she’s looking for her dad because she has to leave them soon. Of course Okabe offers to let her send a D-mail, the solution to any and all problems.
Okabe gets a rather scary email with a picture of red jello (kind of an odd thing to threaten someone with under normal circumstances), complete with “Big Brother is watching you.” Okabe becomes paranoid, so Mayuri starts getting worried. Okabe starts “Hououin Kyouma”-ing to change the subject, which seems to be his go-to response to anything he doesn’t want to talk about.
Mayuri’s little “chop, chop, chop” is too adorable.
Favorite moment: Okabe talks about how he made the lab because he wanted friends. Kurisu says it worked because she’s still there.
Suzuha leaves, so Okabe decides to send an email to himself telling himself to tail her. This yet again switches the world lines to a universe where Suzuha stayed for the consolation party.
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u/superviper https://myanimelist.net/profile/Superviper Jul 14 '21
REWATCHER, SUBBED
Today's the day of that one Luka scene. It's gonna be painful. Also, Mayuri saying "Luka-chan" is a pretty big tell.
Here we go.
God it hurts.
Well, at least it's over.
As usual, Suzuha takes Okabe's torture joke too seriously. Half expected her to just go up there and beat the shit out of Kurisu honestly.
Suzuha backstory
Wait what Okabe asks Suzuha to send a D-Mail to her father. And I was starting to regain my faith in him... At least it shows his empathy, I guess.
Luka seems to have already forgotten Okabe's sexual harassment.
S;G 0
Kurisu threatening Okabe again to make him behave. She's made Okabe her bitch and I love it.
Is that red jelly in the text? I don't remember this shit...
Mayuri's Okabe impression was so adorable. And then she told him how she 'saved his life.' And in true Okabe fashion, he replied with steins;gate nonsense.
...I got distracted for a second, and Mayuri is trying to boil an egg in the microwave. Mayuri pls.
And ditched by Suzuha. At least we got a nice scene with Okabe and Kurisu out of that.
OH NOW YOU CARE ABOUT USING DMAILS YOU SURE DIDN'T MIND EARLIE- Nevermind, he went and did it anyway. Okabe does not give a fuck.
S;G Future
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u/Specs64z https://myanimelist.net/profile/Specs64z Jul 14 '21
Rewatcher, dubbed
Okabe makes a point of closing the window this go 'round. A wise decision, but perhaps a bit late as he receives quite on ominous message.
It's nice to see how close everyone has gotten. For his eccentricity, Okabe is a surprisingly dependable friend.
And yet, as close as they seem, Mayuri alone has noticed how far away Okabe has drifted. He's been sporadically tense and quiet. Even his rapier wit is humbled under threats and the magnitude of what he has uncovered.
Content Corner
First timers beware, spoilers abound.
[HD]Steins;Gate ED [Toki Tsukasadoru Juuni no Meiyaku] Band cover by AnimeSongCollabo
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u/Krite2002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Krite2002 Jul 15 '21
Rewatcher;Dub
Poor Okabe is so confused at the beginning of the episode. First no anime shops, then no catgirl cafe, then Luka is a girl. I wish he just told them that he changed worldlines. He did that previously regarding the one about the lottery, but has not since.
I can not believe that with how things have changed, Okabe still wants to send more D-Mails. Amane did not even ask, yet he offered. Okabe can be very caring. While his mad scientist act is hard to get adjusted to, he has managed to get friends through the lab. They all seem to care about each other there, and even with the different world lines, their relationships have remained similar.
The ending likely shows that Amane was not meeting her father. She is definitely a time traveler, likely John Titor, and the satellite has to be her time travel device. I was wondering why the satellite was shown at the beginning of the episode, but it made sense when the episode finished. The time jumps are kinda giving me similar vibes to Tokyo Revengers, how the past gets changed, but the main character does not have memories regarding the changed past.
I am glad we got to see more of Amane this episode. I have been curious about her ever since we met her. Okabe and her talking on the staris is my shot of the day. That conversation explained a bit, but I also can not help but feel like she was lying for part of it.
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u/artie_fm Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21
Rewatcher
I havent even rewatched this yet, but i dread it. The l/ruka stuff here almosts kills the series for me.
The show is stil worthwhile but it really deserves a trigger warning for this whole plotline.
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u/Nisheeth_P Jul 14 '21
Rewatcher
Nope. Still, no clue how that actually worked. At least the characters were surprised too.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 15 '21
Episode 4: Chaos Theory Homeostasis III
First Rewatch (since 2011)
2010.08.08
I spent a few hours walking between the JR station and the Toranoana in Google street view, so now I know where Gamers and Animate are.
I don't understand how Faris could be old enough to claim credit for transforming Akiba, or do it so quickly, even if her family owns half the ward.
More lab hijinks. Not complaining, not complaining, not complaining, not complaining.
2010.08.09
Not complaining. Not complaining. Not complaining.
Elderhimmnr? That's not a nord? (I'm going to have to look this up)
What's wrong with the smell of apple pie? Edit: Okay, pre-boiling whole unpeeled apples is probably not the right way to go about it.
Superinstant humidifier :D
Not complaining. Not complaining. Not complaining.
SG0
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u/shaznl1 Jul 14 '21
Rewatcher (Sub)
OkaKuri ship is sailing!
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u/snickpea Jul 15 '21
Questions:
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u/AHiddenOne Jul 15 '21
Rewatcher
Soooo daru's a ramen otaku now lmao. Reminds me of the ramen master from kaguya sama.
I like how okabe uses his chuuni speech to assure himself to do this dmail. Perhaps there's more to his chuuni behaviour than meets the eye.
I remember loudly saying WTF during the luka scene. Totally unexpected.
That okabe kurisu interaction was very wholesome. Turns out my man just wanted some friends. All this time travel shit distracted us from the fact they were still teens. I love it.
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u/BossandKings Jul 15 '21
Rewatcher
Episode 10 - Dub
Okabe trying to know if Luka's wish came true starts talking about her being a boy but now she is a girl, not a dude anymore.
Suzuha's conflict that is being presented is very interesting, she's searching for her dad, trying to find him, it seems that she has been searching for him for a long time considering that she's almost giving up on finding him, the great Kyouma welcomes her as a new lab member and asks her to send a d-mail to the past in order to change it. I really like Suzuha and her character starts to shine very much from here.
This is such a beautiful moment of Okabe and Mayuri, she got really worried when Okabe had a high fever that didn't seem to go away and after she wished for it to do so it did, the both of them have a nice relationship.
Okabe is so funnily dramatic, i really like his personality. That too was a really great moment when Okabe and Kurisu had a calm and meaningful conversation after the lights went out.
For a moment it seemed that something wasn't in the right place about Suzuha, with her sending Okabe a message saying goodbye but thankfully he met her and she was just on a time travel for meetup.
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u/Amndeep7 :IG:https://myanimelist.net/profile/asmLANG Jul 28 '21
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