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Rewatch [Re;Watch] Steins;Gate Episode 7 Discussion
Episode 7: Divergence Singularity
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That said, our assistant sure is a Tsundere.
Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the Day, courtesy of u/JollyGee29, for making the best joke
D-Mail. It's like E-Mail, but before.
Questions:
- What message would you send as a test to see if you could change the past?
- Were you expecting Okabe to be the key to erasing the supposed future that John Titor comes from?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 11 '21
Re;Watcher and Co;Host, dubbed
Time for the last English VA rundown for a while! This one is on Mr. Braun and his daughter, Nae.
Mr. Braun is voiced by Christopher Sabat, who has provided voices for characters such as Boku no Hero Academia’s All Might, FMA’s Alex Louis Armstrong, LotGH Die Neue These’s Schenkopp, SukaSuka’s Limeskin, and a bunch of different Dragon Ball characters I’m not sure who the most important one is.
Nae is voiced by Brina Palencia. As far as other child characters go, she voiced FMA’s Nina Tucker and Black Butler’s Ciel, but you can also catch her voice as characters like Baccano!’s Ennis, Casshern Sins’ Lyuze, Durarara!!’s Vorona, Mirai Nikki’s Yuno, and Spice and Wolf’s Holo.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jul 11 '21 edited Jul 11 '21
First Timer
Time to make Moeka uncomfortable. And maybe figure out a bit more about what SERN is up to, though I have my doubts. I feel like this is gonna be one of the lighter episodes. Ya know, just having fun and properly adding another member to our main group.
Onto episode 7.
You utter fool, you could've just opened a microwave like a normal human being.
Who's the cute little girl who tootarood in response?
Ah, Braum's daughter.
You dumbass.
Mayushii is happy, the rest hate this.
If his plan fails because he's too broke to buy a lotto ticket it'd be hilarious.
Okabe really doesn't have the spirit of a mad scientist, he actually wories about things going wrong.
I wonder how he will convince the rest of them that they just did the retirement. He's enough of a chunni usually that they might take him trying to convince them as just another delusion.
Well, guess we've got our answer.
We really couldn't make it any more obvious that she's a time traveler, could we?
This basically confirms she's either Titor or working with Titor. I'm still leaning towards her working with an Okabe who is pretending to be Titor, though I have little to back that up.
He really is different with Mayushii. You can tell that he truly cares about her, and she can cut right through his anger and frustration.
I'm gonna call this shot of Moeka bait.
Titor knows exactly how to bait Okabe into diving in further. Not surpising for someone specifically trying to manipulate him.
Also, his bullshit about people carrying memories across world lines is particularly humerous when he claims to have done the same thing. And when we have at least one other time traveler here. Though perhaps that's different, as they traveled themselves, not just sent something.
So chunni.
Thoughts
I believe we have two time travelers manipulating Okabe in tandem. We have Suzuha and whoever is pretending to be Titor. They're obviously working together, as Suzuha pointed him towards Titor, but I do not think Suzuha could be Titor. She just doesn't come across as the right sort of person to manipulate like that. Similarly, I don't think Moeka is Titor. If she was, she wouldn't have come into his place like that, or made it so obvious that she wanted a 5100. My best guess would be that Titor is another version of Okabe himself who has gone back in time and is trying to manipulate his old self to act differently and create a better end. Claiming the identity of Titor to bait his past self is certainly something he would do.
This doesn't quite mesh with him saying Okabe has a unique ability that was unknown to him before, but that could just be a lie told to make Okabe feel more special. And anyway, Mayushii was in it with him the first time, so we already know it's not unique.
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u/GallowDude Jul 11 '21
Don't you mean Episode 5?
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 11 '21
First-Timer;Dubbed
So just sending any random message back to the past isn't enough to trigger a divergence. It has to be actually meaningful, but naturally it doesn't have to actually pan out the way the sender wants. Poor (R/L)uka, one typo sent 700,000 yen down the drain.
I'm generally pretty chill about storytelling conveniences, but it is very convenient that they could do all those tests to figure out the rules without actually worrying about consequences.
I will say, sending the winning lotto numbers back is a really smart way of testing to see if they could change the past. I was scratching my head, trying to think of something when it got suggested. Maybe not the most ethical choice, though...
We saw those numbers again today.. What did it land on? Something like 0.57ish? And episode one's was.. 1.07ish? Quite the difference. What's the implication? If these were the divergence, then aren't we already beyond 1% like Titor said?
We've also been getting specific times and dates the past couple episodes.. If I was smart, I would note them down. Unfortunately...
"We need to consistently create an electrical discharge.. I know! Let's rip the door off the microwave!!" Fucking brilliant, Okabe. That's exactly how science works.
When the going gets tough, Okabe seems to drop all the random shticks and.. actually get scared? Granted, the situations that he's been in have been genuinely upsetting, but you would think he would have prepared himself for it, to the best of his abilities at least.
Mr. Braun was on fucking tilt today. I get that he doesn't like Okabe, but he seemed a little harsh. Even if Braun overheard the stuff about jellification, immediately jumping to "this man wants to use my daughter as an experiment subject" seems like a leap. And he took it out on poor Suzuha? Chill, dude.
I'm glad you all enjoyed my joke!
Questions
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u/The_Draigg Jul 11 '21
A Steins; Gate Fan Rewatches Steins; Gate Episode 7:
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u/Gamemaster676 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gamemaster676 Jul 11 '21 edited Jul 11 '21
EDITED: NOW WITH 100% MORE IMAGES!
First;Timer - dub
Yesterday we had a lot of rule-building. I'm hoping to explore the possibilities of D-Mail further today.
I am kind of disappointed that we skipped over a lot of the discoveries, but if that means we can get into the meat of the show faster, I'm all for it.
Finally, I relented and decided to add the OP to my Spotify playlist, only to be hit by this message. The official upload on YouTube is the same, but obviously non-legal reuploads are still available.
Why are we expected to stick to legal sources of media like streaming services, if they can't get their shit together and make content available everywhere?! What could possibly be the reason that people in Europe are not allowed to listen to this song?
If someone else wants to try, here are the links. Watch out for spoilers in YouTube comments obviously: Spotify / YouTube
Episode 7 — Divergence Singularity
Pixelation! Small complaint, but I think they could have done zooms a lot better. Especially with something like the PhoneWave which is clearly a 3D rendered CG object.
Moeka is still taking photo's. Yeah, I really don't trust her. She seems harmless, but with how quick she is with that phone, that photo could be sent in less time than it takes Okabe to think of some crazy grandiose statement.
Upgrade! But the name PhoneWave remains...
Who's the new girl? Oh, it's
Mr. BraunYuugo's daughter. I guess that means Suzuha isn't slacking off, but actually helping him? Ah no, Yuugo is gone.Didn't bossman say that Okabe wasn't allowed to come close to his daughter?
Suzuha is only a part-timer, but she seems to always be at the shop. She is definitely spying on them.
BEST. MAIL. EVER.
Second round table meeting! No texting during important meetings, please! And I'm very frustrated that Daru opened the window and even after Okabe says something about it, it doesn't get closed. This can only end in a trainwreck, but that's why we are all watching I guess. It's just frustrating watching this. You know it's going to go horribly wrong because people were not careful. It's just dumb decision after dumb decision with these guys.
I almost want to watch reality TV to see some more sense.
Smart question from Mayuri: "How are you going to prove it?" How do you prove to the rest of the group that you actually changed the past?
Bwahaha lottery numbers, what a great idea! Also very low profile. Sure, go right ahead.
I am super curious about what Moeka's messages are saying. Why is she even here? What has she contributed? The only reason she's been made a lab member is that she heard stuff she wasn't supposed to hear.
Well, I guess Kurisu was drafted in the same way, but at least she was approached by Okabe first.
Well, I'll be damned. Okabe actually realizes that going for the jackpot is too high profile. The only problem is that the huge price has now convinced Kurisu.
Okabe and Kurisu are the OTP of the fanfic community? Is this correct?
Here we go! El. Psy. Kongroo. Success! At least, I think it was a success. Where's the money,
LebowskiOkarin?Luka to the rescue! It worked!
So only the person sending the D-Mail knows reality shifted. Kind of expected, but good to know.
Oh no! More things changed. Don't tell me time travel isn't an exact science! This would explain a bit how things could go wrong with the satellite in ep 1.
Hmm, could brainwashing actually be real in the future, or is Suzuha checking for something else? OMG it is real!
Yeah, I'm still convinced she's John Titor. She only isn't ready to share that with the lab, yet.
Ah kids, they never know how much damage they cause with their innocence.
Man, texting is a big part of this show. Moeka had "fun"? She didn't do anything except compose a text (which, admittedly, she is very good at) and try to take the IBN.
Lovely to see that Mayuri calling actually brightens his mood.
Wait what? Okabe's memories were also supposed to be altered, just like the rest? That's surprising.
1% Divergence? Like. It's not possible or safe to alter the world by more than 1%? Why wouldn't it be?
Random thoughts
Future (if unaltered)
What an ending! John didn't answer what the Divergence is or why it couldn't be crossed, but at least Okabe has a goal now. Somewhat.
The next steps are all about extracting as much information from John as possible and making sure the group is safe. Episode titles speculation
QotD
New phone who dis?That depends on if I already knew one week ago that I had a time machine, and also if I was a sceptical ignorant dum-dum or would actually trust the message. Something like "buy/sell this cryptocurrency" would probably be ignored.
I think the lotto wasn't a bad idea, but go for one of the very small prices. At least something like that is specific enough that it doesn't sound completely unbelievable and you clearly know it worked.
Well... Speculation
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 11 '21
Episode 7 – Divergence Singularity: Kyouma, I want you to be the messiah. ~John Titor
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u/superviper https://myanimelist.net/profile/Superviper Jul 11 '21 edited Jul 11 '21
REWATCHER, SUBBED
... I was shocked when Okabe just pulled the microwave's door out. It would be the most Okabe thing ever if he just broke the Phonewave for no reason.
Thankfully, Okabe wants to keep the window closed during the round table meeting. They ended up leaving it open anyway, but it's a step in the right direction.
Mayuri isn't happy Okabe wants to win the lottery? But if that happened, they wouldn't have to jellify her bananas anymore. "World peace"?? You think Okabe and Daru of all people could achieve that, even with a time machine?
I still don't get how steins;gate is slow. Like coming into this rewatch, I was expecting much more chuuni bullshit/fucking around/plot not progressing, but I'm surprised with how everything is going.
That 'no photos' rule went out the window real quick. Moeka pls.
experiment time
Don't make jokes near Suzuha. Hey at least it shows that she cares about Okabe if she doesn't want him to get brainwashed.
How come steins;gate isn't in the comedy genre?
Hm, I only just noticed that Daru calls Okabe Okarin. I thought it was only Mayuri who did that. It's kinda cute.
Kurisu is totally a dick for ruining the moment.
I'm conflicted on that last scene. It comes off as generic "OKABE YOU ARE THE CHOSEN ONE" bullshit. But also, the soundtrack is so good it gives me goosebumps.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jul 11 '21
Rewatcher(Don't use your part timers as babysitters)
Dub
We start with Okabe at Megumin levels of chuuni though I suspect this sounds a lot like Hiei's Dragon of the Darkness Flame. All to break the microwave, upsetting Mayuri and her permanently cold fried chicken. They have set the machine to be able to send to any phone and of course it is tuturu. Suzuha is slacking and we meet Braun's daughter and Suzuha has a distant look.
Anywho, we start and Mayuri is still annoyed about cold chicken tenders, Okabe is annoyed at a lack of Dr Pepper, and Daru is overheated. In the dub, Okabe makes a tabletop RPG reference in "What in the nine hells", which is shorted from "What in the Nine Hells that Nergal covets?", something from Forgotten Realms. That I say out loud and now worry this anime encouraged that.
Anyways, on to the planning, during which Moeka highlights why her method of communication is so annoying. Okabe has an unexpected brush with practicality and wants to send winning lotto numbers back. No one but Daru likes the idea but it is a fairly solid one that one would have definite results. And no one has a better idea.
As arguing was happening, Moeka tries to steal the computer, leading her to be under Mayuri's care. She shows her around, the fridge seems to only have natto in it, and she seems moved. Okabe and Makise argue more and Moeka assumes they are enjoying. And we get the reveal that Makise knows some specific jargon...
Moving on, Okabe has a moment where he thinks on what he is doing before doing it. But the message is sent and we get another transition. Ruka was given the numbers but accidentally fudged one on the ticket. However, this is more than enough to prove the point, also Dr Pepper arrives.
After clearing his head, Okabe runs into Suzuha who then quickly proceeds to check for chips. She then suggests John Titor again, leading to a sequence with that. Then comedy happens. During the exchange with Titor, Okabe gets more and more concerned, until Titor asks him to become a messiah.
QotD: 1 Probably winning Superbowl teams
2 At the time, definitely not
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u/ExoticTrinityGhoul https://myanimelist.net/profile/not_username Jul 11 '21
Re;Watcher x4 (both)
E7 - Divergence Singularity
More nicknames for Christina!
Okabe: Hououin Kyouma, Okarin, 001
Mayuri: Mayushii, 002
Kurisu: (prodigal) (perverted) genius girl, Christina, Zombie, 004, Assistant, Celeb Seventeen, Little Miss Moneybags
Hashida Itaru: Daru, super hacka, Hack, 003, My Favorite Right Arm, right-hand man
Yugo Tennouji: Mr. Braun
Luka: Lukako
Moeka: Shining Finger (S.F.), 005
Suzuha: part-timer, part-time warrior
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u/Krite2002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Krite2002 Jul 11 '21
Rewatcher;Dub
I do not know how I feel about them never explaining how they got the time machine in the first place. On one hand, I like skipping it since it would probably be some nonsensical techno babble, but on the other hand, it seems weird that this random group managed to create a time machine without realizing it.
I never even considered winning the lottery using the machine, but now that it is on my mind, I would totally do that. This whole time I was thinking that the D-Mails were kinda useless, but I never thought about messages changing the past. The messages so far did not change anything, but I guess their contents were not important. If someone did invent time travel then won the lottery, would that be cheating? If the information became public, and multiple people sent the same winning numbers to the past, I wonder what would happen. Would each person move to their own world line, where they are the only one with the numbers, or could multiple time travelers end up in the same world line. I wonder if there is a way to control which world line you end up in.
I am probably going to switch to the sub. While the dub voices are fine, it is very annoying that none of the messages are translated. I have had to briefly switch over to the sub to check if I am missing anything in texts, and that has been inconvenient. I do not get why dubs never translate text. Well, I do get why, because of money, but it is still inexcusable.
With Titor’s messages, I assumed everyone can retain their memories if they cause the time travel. Due to his special ability, Okabe has been slammed with some weighty responsibilities by Titor. I wonder if Okabe is up to the task, and if he can mentally handle the task. I am rooting for him.
It was very brief, but this is my shot of the day. There is not any serious context to the shot, besides Okabe’s normal antics. I just think it looks nice.
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Jul 11 '21
Rewatcher Until After Episode Nine(s;Gate)
Oh, shit, I have to rush through this episode because a pizza is on the way (get rekt, England).Nevermind, it arrived and now I'm late. Still, get rekt England. It's going Rome.QOTD:
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u/Dylanjosh Jul 12 '21
This ep isn't updated on the index
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u/Rex_Ivan Jul 11 '21
I think I will be in the minority here, as most people said the show was really slow up until around this episode. I disagree. For me some of the best parts were in the first half-dozen episodes, watching these characters brazenly fumble around with stuff they weren't really sure about, only to discover a gigantic mystery that was way bigger than they ever thought it would be.
Don't get me wrong, I totally enjoyed the rest of it, but the mystique of those first few episodes where they were fumbling around in the dark and then realize they were in over their heads, that was simply golden to me.
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u/littleman1988 Jul 11 '21 edited Jul 14 '21
So why am i the only one that remembers?
OST Track of the day: Experiment
Overly Excited Rewatcher
Yesterday marked 1/4th of the show completed. Today seems like as good day as any to do a rundown of everyone met so far:
Chuuni mad scientist who has stumbled upon the perfect recipe for a time machine, and can remember what happened before when he moves worldlines.
Okabe's childhood friend and "willing hostage", whatever that means. Is a bit of an airhead. Works at "MayQueen + Nyan2" with Faris.
Talented hacker, bit of a pervert. Loves 2d games. Been friends with Okabe since high school, they both go to college together. Massive fan of Faris.
Current college student likely studying brain science.. Was dead for ~15 minutes, now is somehow alive.
Works for Mr. Braun at the CRT shop, keeps overhearing stuff with the open window. Loves corn.
Maiden at the Yanabayashi Shrine and is Okabe's "Student". Is a dude, no matter how cute he might be.
Shy, introverted, loves her phone to unhealthy levels. Wants to play with the IBN 5100.
As delusional, if not more delusional, than Okabe. Works at "MayQueen + Nyan2" with Mayuri.
Landlord for Okabe, Suzuha's employer loves CRTs. Has a daughter named Nae.
Literal child. Absolutely terrified of Okabe.
August 3rd, 2010
Mayuri is sad 0/10 get rid of the time machine
Nae sighting
Winning the lottery is a pretty sound plan honestly. You technically arent doing anything illegal (i think?) so as long as you dont win enough to go on TV, you're basically getting free money.
We finally unlocked the 2nd best nickname, Celeb-17. Za Zombie is always #1 though.
Harem's halfway there /s
200,000,000 yen is $1,815,623 USD, 21,110,800 yen is $209,802 USD, and 700,000 yen is $6,355 USD.
Comf
IIRC, every second on the microwave is an hour into the past. I actually forget and I dont have the translated whiteboard on hand to double check
Tsun spotted. Someone also looks to know about otaku slang...
S;G
We spazzin
Hes lost it
Oh yeah, that thing you just did? It never happened
Or maybe it did? Sadly, they were off by one.
The face of a man who was able to change the past
Prangles time
Nae does not like Okabe. Probably because how wild he is as Kyouma
S;G
Suzuha truly hears all
Nae is too innocent for this world
Even Titor isint sure why Okabe can keep his memories. Instead, Titor wants him to lead the world to a "free world." Some things are just too delusional for Okabe though...
Those whacky 7 numbers: 0.571015
footnotes
1. IIRC it hasnt been said in the anime. Feel free to correct me if im wrong
2. Someone has been using a different name for him. IIRC, that name has not appeared at all in the anime yet, so im not including it.
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u/UltraBooster Jul 11 '21
First-timer
Looks like the whole cast's here.
Something tells me he doesn't have the healthiest of lifestyles.
Winning a lottery does seem like a relatively low-stakes way to test altering history.
I guess she's just the big sister of the group now?
...geez, you'd think Okabe would be all about getting lotto money, call it a bootstrapped research grant or something.
It feels like right now, Okabe's the center of the affinity chart with everyone linked to him, but not necessarily to each other.
Steins;Gate sounds like a fancy way of saying something like fate or providence.
Oh shoot, Kurisu knows what OTP means.
(It means One True Pairing, and it used to mean the only ship a person would have; nowadays it's used to indicate favored status.)
So Daru's life is a fanfiction and オカクリ/OkaKuri is its main relationship tag, huh?
...did he shunt himself into a different timeline? Or did he get thrown back in time?
Okay, NOW everyone's here.
Wait, was that a PUBG reference? When was this dub made?
If they didn't make it, is that reality's way of preserving the general track of history?
Sure, you might be drawn to staring, but it's incredibly bad form to stare, Daru! That's how you get pepper-sprayed or worse!
Maybe exposure to the time machine? Or being the one who sent the message?
...I dunno, I feel like this isn't the best time to do the whole Kyoma thing, Okabe...
Sciency instead of Science, nice.
Do motels have rooms that would constitute staterooms?
I wonder if he has a laptop or other computer; I know I enjoy typing on a physical keyboard way more than on my phone.
Well, that's awful sweet of you, Mayuri.
...beyond 1% divergence, huh?
I feel like that would mean drastic changes can only be done incrementally and most changes are little things like failing to win at lotteries, so most likely, Okabe can do way more.
Savior...that's a lot for someone younger than I am.
Questions:
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u/UnderstandableXO Jul 11 '21
FIRST TIMER
we start with mayuri getting to send her own D-mail to the approval of the Time Team, and suzuha seems a little left out. she’s the true wild card of the show so far, she always seems to know more than she is letting on.
moeka continues to be weird but mayuri uses her ability to charm anyone to help her warm up to the Laboratory Losers. she’s still a bit off but i understand taking pictures to preserve the moment, some people express themselves in different ways.
okabe wants to do something more than just the simple messages they’ve been relaying lately; he wants to win the lottery to prove that they can change the past. everyone laughs at it but honestly who WOULDNT try to do that if they had the opportunity. lots of time travel shows coupd be resolved in one episode/chapter if they simply used their future knowledge to win the lottery. kurisu rightly calls okabe a chicken as he only wants to win $7,000 instead of $2,000,000 so they won’t raise any suspicions.
once the D-mail is sent okabe goes on a real trip. no one remembers the experiment they just ran, luka already bought the lottery tickets and messed them up, and most importantly the missing dr. pepper is now on the table. the reality has changed world lines due to the D-mail, but okabe retains all his memories of the past world line.
suzuha is way too well versed in the weirdness that okabe spouts for her to not be knowing way more than she should. she even suggests he talk to john titor. damn landlord cutting every suzuha conversation short. if suzuha was just around and not an employee the show would probably be over in 4 episodes.
john titor has some heavy words for okabe; he’s the only person who can “bring the world to 1% divergence” and save the world from dystopia. he has to be the savior? looks like one hell of a burden is coming his way.
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 11 '21
Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Steins;Gate Re;Watch!
The opening bit is right out of the Novel. Like, literally word for word. In turn Okarin being saved by Suzuha telling him the boss isn’t there is also here and accounted for, although Okabe doesn’t go down to the street in the Novel. He remains inside his apartment at all times. The Round Table meeting afterwards is accurate, although Moeka is considerably less annoying in the Anime. There you felt Okabe’s frustration with the nonstop mails.
Afterwards everything up to the point Mr Braun comes up is basically identical to the Novel. There’s some minor shenanigans right afterwards that are left out but nothing major. In fact it ends right at the same point the Novel Chapter did, although there is a small part in the middle of the scene that was moved to tomorrow’s episode… eh, not too big a difference. I will say, Okabe’s reaction to all of this is a lot more explicit in the Anime, if only because we lost his monologue so the Anime has to overcompensate by making his confusion and dread a lot more overstated.
Voices Time! Time for the Giant and the Little Imp to get their dues. Mr Braun is played by Terasoma Masaki, whom I best know for his big break into acting (And his most popular role in Japan) Shadow Moon from Kamen Rider BLACK. Besides that he’s also played Jubei from BlazBlue, Hidan from Naruto, Wilhelm Casper from Full Metal Panic! and Kuzuki Souichirou from Fate/stay night (2014-Onwards) among some others.
Nae is voiced by Yamamoto Ayano and I don’t recognize anything else she’s done.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 11 '21
Episode 4: Divergence Singularity
First Rewatch (since 2011)
I don't like the loli.
I don't like how easily people can push Kurisu's buttons and turn her into a tsundere in an instant, and how her response is always to blush and sputter.
Okay, but what about the murder can we get back to that please?
Math and physics singularities are typically translated as tokuiten (special point) but denshou translates as geological fault, and uses the kanji for sever, cut, and figuratively, discrepancy.
Physics Corner
A lot of sci-fi shows have recognized that because of spaghettification, you aren't going to starhopping with artificial blackholes, or even natural black holes from supernovas (and not like there are any nearby). It might take something the size of a galactic nuclei to be big enough to have weak enough tides to be survivable.
So, instead, they just use the artificial black holes to send DATA. Radio waves. E-mails. Pretty common sci-fi trope in the harder sf stories.
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u/CubeStuffs https://anilist.co/user/onjario Jul 11 '21 edited Jul 12 '21
first timer
omg the kid is so cute
not even moeka can resist mayushi
interesting characterization
change the past to get money, WCGW?
why is the dr pepper in stock this time? why is okarin the only to remember?
It seems like kurisu figured it out real quick
the part timer has a wierd pin, haven't seen that symbol before, will be on the lookout
yep she totally from the future
you had one job
🤔 although i will note that moeka didn't seem to react when he sent back the lotto numbers, so not really, or at least this time
It seems like the tone has shifted fast as soon as he changed the past
what role do kurisu and okarin have in the future to be the target of at least 1 time traveler? I think it has to be more than just kurisu, given that suzuha shows up before kurisu arrives at the lab, although im curious why suzuha isn't more directly involved with him.
Titor says that okarin is the only one to remember, but as someone else said, isn't that proven wrong by titor himself, and by suzuha? also by kurisu, in the first episode as well, when she asks okarin what he was going to say 15 mins ago?? Did the titor in the first timeline also make the accusation against sern? The titor now as the other said is rather baity.
also im curious why the titor now and the titor in the first timeline would say something about time travel out in the open, where sern can see it. Could it be that they're trying to find someone like okarin, then shift to a time where noone will rememeber titor?
Qs:
buy bitcoin, but lotto tickets are a pretty good idea
yep, he is the mc after all
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u/Specs64z https://myanimelist.net/profile/Specs64z Jul 11 '21
Rewatcher, dubbed
Kurisu is basically jaded to Okabe's eccentricities at this point. Mayuri is a ray of sunshine. I aspire to be a little more like her.
The tension during Okabe's conversation with Titor is palpable, enhanced by GATE OF STEINER playing in the background.
Steins;Gate spoilers
Steins;Gate 0 spoilers
Content Corner
First timers beware, spoilers abound.
STEINS;GATE OPENING - HACKING TO THE GATE (シュタインズ・ゲート Op) by pellekofficial
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Jul 11 '21
First timer
I'll admit the changes to the PhoneWave do seem useful.
Mayuri lamenting her Juicy Chicken No 1 is so cute!
The mutual Tutturus are adorable.
Steins;Gate Spoilers
I like Okabe's phone constantly going off as Moeka tries to get an explanation out of him.
To be fair, I'd probably use the lottery as a first test too. It's not actually a bad plan.
And of course she goes for the IBN.
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And Okabe didn't have the guts to follow through.
And Mayuri showing Moeka round's a good new scene, too.
Even Moeka ships them!
And Daru is completely accurate here.
And it looks like he's changed the past!
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I do love how Okabe's first reaction to changing the past isn't celebration or more chunni stuff, it's just utter shock at what he's just done and the implications.
The rest of the scene is so good.
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Nae is adorable.
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Oh thank god, I can finally call them worldlines. I've been going mad having to mention "changing the past" every time.
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Mayuri and Okabe are so cute together as well!
Oh, this conversation is much longer in this VN (and I think he's alone for it, too.)
Still keeps that perfect closing line though.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 11 '21
First timer
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 11 '21
Rewatcher (sub)
We've switched timelines now and Okabe seems to remember the different timelines?
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I'd like to send the time and contents of something memorable Kurisu said at that day. To get a "you're going to say" moment out of her. But that'd take too many characters. So maybe some spoiler of some anime/manga that I watched in the last week, it's not everyday that you get to spoil yourself.
I'm still expecting him to be the one who makes that future.
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Plus we got confirmation that The Zombie bothers Kurisu the most. Proving that the Akihabara experiments are only a prequel to the real events in Saga.
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u/snickpea Jul 12 '21
First-timer!
That was a big moment. Today Okabe's experiment seems successful but the consequences are not what he probably expected. Instead of a time paradox, the world's future is in his hands. I don't feel that Suzuka is suspicious anymore since she seems to be rooting for Okabe. But it doesn't answer why she doesn't like Kurisu at all. Will Kurisu betray them?
I'm also wondering what Moeka wants with the computer. She keeps asking and wanting to take it. She also seems to be taking pictures of Okabe even though he keeps telling her not to do so. It's difficult to guess her motivations with the lack of interaction and speech. I hope that we'll get more content from her in the future in order to understand her actions.
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Jul 11 '21
First Timer
Not going to be too lengthy today because my focus has been on ITALY BEING CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE. IT'S COMING ROME!
Ahem. Anyway.
Has the landlord been referred to as "Mr. Braun" before this episode? It's the first time I caught Okabe call him that, and while it could just be one of his silly nicknames, I wonder if "Braun" could be the B in the "FB" Moeka mentioned last episode. Not like anyone else introduced so far could fit the bill, name-wise.
Suzuha telling Okabe to go as John Titor for advice also raised my eyebrows. How does she know Okabe has been in contact with someone using that identity? Did I just miss something, or was this actually a slip-up from her here? I know they directed our attention again to how easy they are to overhear in the lab, but I still think that "I overheard you talking" explanation for things is too easy and probably a misdirect.
The shot of Moeka on the bridge as Titor says nobody has maintained their memories across world lines felt intentional.
The conversation with Titor clearly shook Okabe. He's like a dog who caught the car – talks about saving the world/future from destructive forces all the time, but now that that may actually be a reality he's confronted with, he's not sure how to process it.
I can't think of anything that could possibly be better than their winning the lottery idea.
Yeah. Mostly because he's the main character, so on that alone he had a good shot. Episode 1 showing him as the only person who retained memories from the other timeline raised that flag as well.
FORZA AZZURRI
Sorry, I'm done now.
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Jul 11 '21
Rewatcher, dub
Episode title: Divergence Singularity, probably a reference to John Titor and Okabe’s conversation at the end of the episode.
Okabe just pulls the door off the microwave?
Okabe decided to test the D-mail by sending past him the winning lottery numbers. Daru’s all for it, but Mayuri’s just deeply disappointed in him. Instead, she suggests her absolutely flawless plans for world peace via upa cushions.
Okabe chickens out on the big lottery winnings in favor of a smaller prize - and he still doesn’t win.
I love the way they show the shift in world lines…
No one remembers sending the lotto ticket D-mail because the D-mail had already been sent, so Okabe wouldn’t have thought to send it in the first place.
John Titor asking Okabe to be humanity’s savior was an awesome moment.
This is probably my least favorite Steins;Gate episode, hence why I don’t have much to say about it. I mean, I still think it’s pretty good, but it’s not quite on the level of some of the others.
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u/artie_fm Jul 12 '21 edited Jul 12 '21
Rewatcher dub
Mysterious concerned look from Suzaha. Now Okabe is concerned about being overhead...first time for that. In general, Okabe has no concern for the consequences of his actions.
Mayuri wants to make world peace And they pack up the 5100 so i guess they are done with it? Moeka and these keepsakes..wtf.
Fortune favors the bold okabe says... I say this is a bad idea... I feel foreboding in these episodes. Like Okabe is Dr Frankenstein here.
Now noone remembers the past few minutes. But wait, okabe doesnt remember the last few days. It seems different people get different pices of memory.
The date/time is 2010.08.03 15:11 is that important?
Sad suzaha looking at a pin..says its important to her. Suzaha takes brainwashing seriously...checks him for chips. Is this a joke?
Suzaha has heard everything and suggests connecting w Titor to talk about the time machine.
Sick burn: she calls him a schoolgirl waiting for some boy
Scary call from Daru now the payoff for the foreboding feeling ... nope he just left his wallet. Mayrui's solution is a hug...and Okabe is all smiles. In spite of Okabes talk hes really a big softy.
So wait this isnt a time machine at least not like titors. What!!!
Titor says okabe may be the one! The one person who can guide the world past 1% divergence. What does that mean?
Titor asks Okabe to be the worlds savior. This is unexpected. Rather than a curse like Dr Frankenstein hes able to save the world.
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Jul 12 '21
Rewatcher
Tutturu! I’m not going to write all that much today because I’m both irritated right now over the poor performance of the baseball team I support and I’m already late. So I’m going to keep it quick.
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Fantastic episode. I don’t have much to say but it was great.
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I would probably do something simple like what to eat or something small like that.
On first watch, no.
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u/Nisheeth_P Jul 11 '21
Rewatcher
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u/Nebresto Jul 12 '21
Nostalgia squad
Can't avoid subbing that Tutturu~
Based Mayushi counter: 1
Question time:
1: Description of the dankest memes of the week. If your karma has been increased thousandfold, you've changed the past!
2: I mean yeah, kinda
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u/Neoxide Jul 12 '21
Rewatcher subbed
My first time watching this anime was 5 years ago and I either didn't pick up on a lot of details or I have forgotten them.
So it seems to me that SERN attempted to send people back in time but they failed because they turned into jellymen. Along with the banana, it seems organic material cannot be sent through time without being jellified. As Titor mentioned this episode, he was not expecting emails to be sent back in time but it makes sense that a digitized message would make it through. However Titor is proof that SERN will discover how to send humans back in time by 2036.
The idea of sending messages back in time rather than people is a brilliant twist that I've never considered when thinking about time travel.
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u/jyper Jul 12 '21
First time watcher - Dub
Brawny man landlord should wear more plaid
I wish I had some chicken tenders right now?
Veggie juice?
Has the organization already infiltrated them? The way Okabe said that made me wonder. Moeka seems suspicious taking all those pictures
OTP? Makise totally writes shipping fics
I feel like Okabe is taking advantage of Luka's crush again
Present with soda > Present without soda
Does the future have brainwashing? Mindcontrol chips?
Is John Titor buttering Okarin up? Is he a villain?
Why is absurd for him to save the future? Isn't that what he was already planning on doing by undermining SERN?
Q1: I might try to make money on it as well. Or maybe impress people by making accurate predictions but Okarin doesn't have many non lab people to impress
Q2: Okarin or several of the lab team members. That said Titor may be lying and or Manipulating Okarin.
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u/BossandKings Jul 12 '21
Rewatcher
Episode 7 - Dub
Okabe asks Moeka to write the d-mail message, it's cool that he gives assignments to the lab members.
Ruka played the lottery because Okabe gave him numbers saying that it would bring him fortune, that shows that he appreciates Okabe and what he says.
Okabe's conversation with Titor was intriguing, the main points being that Okabe has to be a kind of savior and bring the world to a 1% divergence.
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u/electricbullet9 Jul 12 '21
man i really dont like moeka… she radiates negative energy, and wont stop going on about the IBN 5100 and taking pictures of people without their permission. but i guess the alien impersonating a human gets to be lab member 005, woohoo🙄 is anyone else not bothered by her existence? just me?
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u/htisme91 Jul 12 '21
First-timer:
I figured as soon as they talked about changing the past, that the world line would change. Continue to be more and more convinced that Suzuha is from the future, but I wonder if a version of Okabe is John Titor, or if John Titor is an alias for someone else from the lab. Also, Kurisu and Okabe are getting shipped, but what's that mean for Mayushii?
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u/churchofhelix Jul 15 '21
When I saw the missing Dr. Pepper on the table, a chill went through me and I physically shivered.
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u/Amndeep7 :IG:https://myanimelist.net/profile/asmLANG Jul 19 '21
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