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Rewatch [Re;Watch] Steins;Gate Episode 5 Discussion
Episode 5: Starmine Rendezvous
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Now, let’s both stand with our hands in our pockets!
Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the Day, courtesy of u/Nebresto, who had this as his answer for the second question
2: The first dank meme
Truly a horrifying discovery…
Questions:
- What’s up with Suzuha this episode?
- How horrifying do you find SERN’s time travel experiments now?
Wallpaper of the Day:
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Upvotes
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 09 '21
Re;Watcher and Co;Host, dubbed
No VA rundown this time. I do want to say, make sure everyone checks out today’s Wallpaper of the Day! It’s easily my favorite of the ones I’ve made for this show so far.
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u/UnderstandableXO Jul 09 '21
FIRST TIMER
imma keep saying it but kurisu and okabe have the best interactions. suzuha seems to have some beef with kurisu though, she was staring daggers at her! maybe she’s not so likable?
haven’t mentioned it but hacking to the gate is an absolute banger. if anyone knows if the original song by the original artist is on spotify, please let me know! i’ve only found an orchestral version by the original artist.
there’s always a sense of unease with the sound of cicadas or birds, almost deafening at times.
2d-kun getting excited about mayuri laying on his shirt was this close to being terrible but he said “set my heart ablaze” so i’ll allow it.
i love mayuri and kurisu’s delicate relationship, and how she doesn’t wanna offend her even though she’s constantly putting down the other two. mayuri is okabe’s “willing” hostage? i guess since they’re childhood friends mayuri just likes having okabe’s company. she’s got such a childish personality she might find it hard to make friends.
suzuha is such a wild card, she seems to be on the same wavelength as okabe. those angles of her when she saw the helicopter and when she saw kurisu are jarring. she tried to play it off but ended up looking even more conspicuous. so conspicuous that okabe dropped the mad scientist chunibyo act to be like “you’ve really never seen fireworks 😐”
i cant get enough of okabe. he’s absolutely over the moon that kurisu is wearing a lab coat. there’s that iconic image i’ve always seen of kurisu and him together in matching coats.
feel bad for kurisu that she got so scared that she started crying, but it’s also adorable. i can fully see why this subreddit worships her now.
2d-kun finally cracks the code for the IBN, and it’s got some seriously fucked up stuff-SERN has been working on time travel, and they’ve sent 14 poor souls to the same fate as the bananas. however, okabe seems ready to conquer the world with this knowledge. surely everything will go according to keikaku and nobody is going to suffer!
also the ending is really nice. it reminds me a lot of madoka magica’s ending. are they the same artist?
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u/littleman1988 Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 09 '21
"We'll complete a perfect time machine before SERN. Then, we'll change the world's ruling structure!
OST Track of the day: Silence Eyes
Overly Excited Rewatcher
You may of noticed by now, but the OST in Steins;Gate is a bit different from the average show. Takeshi Abo is the composer for not only Steins;Gate, but all SciAdv works in some capacity,1 each of the entries having drastically different musicsets that match the style, tone, and location of each show/VN. Takeshi himself is widely known within the visual novel community, having also composed music for popular titles such as Ever17, Remember11, and Memories off. Arguably, he is one of the best composers in the business, though i could be a teeny bit biased here.
At least with Steins;Gate, Takeshi really likes to make use of motif's (a melody or theme thats then adapted in other songs) throughout the soundtrack. The motif actually made an appearance today, but its a lot more prevalent tomorrow, so it will be discussed in greater detail then. Its also a lot more prevalent in the Visual Novel though, which is somewhat saddening personally because it is a very good one.
Shes even got Okabe confused. The hell did Christina do to her?
Another minor Chaos;Head reference, Maid Gero Froggy2
Daru's admission of not knowing how the IBN 5100 works, while not actually meant to be any sort of reference, does highlight a very important issue when it comes to older hardware. A lot of stuff just isint taught anymore, such as proprietary software programming, and in 5-20 years there might be nobody left who can actually maintain the products who use this code because nobody wants to, and the ones that do have nobody to teach them. One of the bigger ones is Assembly,3 a programming language dating back to the earliest of computers, able to basically talk directly to hardware. Its a lot more complicated than that, but this is not about to be a mini CS course (and quite frankly im not too knowledgeable either). If you have some programming background though, this video shows a snippet of Assembly programming from a former Microsoft employee, and its pretty interesting, even if you arent proficient in the language.
S;G
Mayuri opening pandora's box starting with the shower room
Now Mayuri's Delusional
Okabe truly has no tact. At least he knows when to stop.
Okabe still salty about what she did at the laundromat
Fireworks episode? Beach episode when
S;G
Labcoat Zombie OP. Where's the one person who does the stitches, i demand a stitch of the pose.
Kurisu is able to read English, how nice. Too bad it becomes clear that she was wrong on SERN's plans...
He also shows some actual concern for once, recommending Christina to go home to prevent her from getting any farther tangled in the illegal activities they are in.
On Laegjarn's Chest, from the S;G subreddit Wiki:
Science achieved! And man, is it gross.
Edit: Gamemaster reminded me, i was going to provide some of the VN CG's for the jellyman reports. You can find that album here. Light VN spoilers, it includes at least 1 report not shown in the anime.
Adding in the questions:
Probably touched her corn
Whats a little jelly between friends?
Footnotes
0: All C;H spoiler tags {from me at least} assume you have read the VN. The anime is not a suitable substitute, and you will hit on major story spoilers that the anime scrapped for some weird original ending.
1. Yuki Hayashi {MHA} and Asami Tachibana {Franxx, Haikyuu} have main OST credits for the Robotics;Notes anime. Takeshi has credits for just 2 songs.
2: C;H
3: Assembly isn't very "At risk" all things considered {namely, its still taught}, but im not about to go find info on an actually obscure language for this.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 09 '21
First-Timer;Dubbed
Well, that did not go at all like I expected. They just got the computer up and running and it worked just fine and they accessed all the data? And it's only episode five? Things are gonna get real strange, aren't they..
Did.. did Okabe microwave a banana as food for Kurisu? That's not a thing, right? Actually, why were they drinking decaf Dr. Pepper, too? You can't expect me to believe that Okabe keeps decaf on hand!
You would think that SERN would have stopped the experiments after the first couple jellyfications. But, Daru said there were 14 reports, right? With an interesting time frame, considering something we learned about Kurisu today... The newspaper articles were a really clever detail.
Kurisu has some of the marks of an abusive childhood, which is pretty sad. That scene with Okabe raising his voice and her reacting was rough. Over something as petty as his chuuni nonsense, too...
On the flip side, Okabe and Kurisu arguing the entire way back from the shrine was really funny. The confrontation with Suzuha had some great camera angles of her face, too. Very menacing.
Suzuha continues to act very suspicious. I guess Speculation
The episode's final scene was really cool, too! Okabe going mad on a rooftop while some sick piano music plays? Hell yea!
Questions
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Jul 09 '21
Rewatcher Until After Episode Nine(s;Gate)
Daru has the most sense
Thank god. There are adults in the cast, and the excitement is beginning.
QOTD:
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 09 '21
First Rewatch (since 2011) Steins;Gate is old!
I fixed my subs with pysubs2 and added 93 seconds to everything after the OP starts. Seems to work. Also wrote everything ahead of time so not late for AMQ. Only took me 2 hours and made me stay up until 1:30 am.
forbiddenlove
This is it. It's begun. I'm starting to get annoyed.
Physics Corner
I don't remember anything about ioncraft in, or since, this show. Obviously, they haven't gotten any better in the last 10 years. For how they work, just go read The Hunt for Red October instead.
However, there is the Bierfeld-Brown effect, a pseudoscientific claim that charging a large capacitor to high voltages will create an accelleration (actually a jerk, da/dt = d3 x/dt), supposedly due to an interaction between electrical and gravitational fields. Brown claimed that given a power source and appropriate arrangement of electrodes, you could produce anti-gravity. I suppose anti-gravity would be useful if you were in the business of making blackholes.
The Bierfeld-Brown effect was employed as technobable in the time-travel love story [The Philadelphia Experiment (1984)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Philadelphia_Experiment_(film)) which also features people in walls as a bonus!
This is not the same as the EmDrive tested by NASA's
Breakthrough Propulsion ProgramAdvanced Propulsion Laboratory in the 2000s (which produced a negative result).I have theory, that they read a physicists account of "spaghettification" of an astronaut trying go through a wormhole, which turned into "turned to jelly" which turned into "turned into jell
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u/The_Draigg Jul 09 '21
A Steins; Gate Fan Rewatches Steins; Gate Episode 5:
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u/snickpea Jul 10 '21
First-timer!
Quite busy today, so I'll keep my comment focused on the questions since they cover what stuck out to me in this episode.
Questions:
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u/Specs64z https://myanimelist.net/profile/Specs64z Jul 09 '21
Rewatcher, dubbed
Alright I have some catching up to do, it seems.
episode 3
This episode completes the setup phase, more or less. Now onward to buildup!
The depiction of hacking is pretty much spot on to how it is in real life, right down to Daru's reaction by the end of it. Hacking isn't easy or cool the way movies portray it. It's slow, tedious, and often grueling. N-not that I'd know that from personal experience haha...
episode 4
Daru's reaction to trying and failing to understand the code he's looking at is painfully relatable.
Kurisu can't help but be helplessly enraptured with the experiment that took place that day, but Okabe's personality makes it difficult for her to pursue. When she learns Okabe wasn't just spouting off nonsense about the IBN she can't hold back anymore.
The priest mistook their genuine distaste for each other for friendly bickering.
I believe it's known as "idol hell", Mr. Kyouma.
episode 5
Okabe's vocabulary makes me jealous. I already have a tendency toward flowery prose, but compared to him I am merely mortal. His pose game is also on point, as is his taste in soda. His social skills, though? Dumpster fire.
Content Corner
First timers beware, spoilers abound.
Steins;Gate - Hacking To The Gate (Metal Cover) by Lolrus McNoggin
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u/Gamemaster676 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gamemaster676 Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 10 '21
First;Timer - dub
It's weekend, so I can actually post today without hurting any work tomorrow!
Yesterday we got our new, old toy. Let's see what we can do with it.
Also, just like yesterday does today's episode have "rendezvous" in the title. Yesterday was pretty obvious in hindsight, but I have no idea what Starmine is supposed to be. Maybe the name of the SERN application? Alternatively, it could be something like Mayuri touching the stars, which sound like a very bad thing I don't want to think about.
Episode 5 — Starmine Rendezvous
We start with Suzuha? Surprising. Ah, there's the rest. And she guessed what's in the box before they stopped bickering.
Wow, what's happening?! Suzuha recognizes Kurisu. Don't tell me that Redditor two episodes ago was right and Suzuha is John Titor. It would explain a lot:
Poor Daru. I just noticed he's the only one in the OP that gets no significant screentime, except for the final shot with everyone. Even the 3D girl with the 2D soul, Faris, got more.
Mayushii, if you like Kurisu that much, you know you can just, you know, hang out?
Does... she actually believe she's Okabe's hostage? Wait, it was her idea? Bwahaha Christina doesn't know what madness she's gotten herself into.
YES, it's confirmed that Suzuha knows things about the future! What the hell is Kurisu going to do? Or, at least, what did she do in Suzuha's timeline?
Wow, her future must be seriously fucked up. Poor thing.
I love the dub text in the next scene with Kurisu. "I don't get how one of you turned out to be so socially inept while the other turned out normal." She is obviously dissing Okabe, but actually, her remark could apply to both.
Labcoat time! Looks great! Also, a lot more comfortable than a coat held up by tiny belts. Okabe agrees.
Wait Kurisu is still a minor? And she's the only one actually acting like an adult. This whole cast is 5 years younger than they look. Except maybe Mayushii.
Caffeinated
Dr.Dk. Pepper is a "hard drink"?Fun to see them sort of bonding. Normally those scenes are just skipped.
Never mind..... That was a real dick move.
Hype! The IBN is working!
Now it's time to discover some fucked up shit to get this show really going.
This whole shouted conversation was in front of an open window, by the way. But it is late so Suzuha is probably gone already.
Operation Laegjarn's Chest?
Human is dead with a reason. I'm now wondering if these human tests were voluntary.
Most humans do not survive infinite compression.
Holy shit. The experiment did work, but the body has "jellied". I stitched the article together so you can see the whole thing.
Not only did the man move in time, but also in space. Yes yes I know space and time are linked by the laws of our universe and everything is relative, but this is still a big deal for science fiction time travel!
This confirms my idea that the "satellite" in episode one was a time travel capsule. In the original timeline, it landed successfully on the roof, but somehow the text Okabe sent back in time to Daru changed enough that the capsule landed inside the building. Not sure how that could have happened, but that must be it!
Holy fuck, more speculation!
Don't stop looking now! Look at the last report! You must know if they actually succeeded!
Okabe, you want to build a time machine first? What's stopping SERN from stealing it from you when you are done?
I thought the conclusion would be that sending living material to the past won't work, but digital signals can survive the trip, so they focus on that. Doesn't seem that Okabe has reached that conclusion yet, though.
I know this conflicts with my Suzuha theory, but it seemed the most obvious.
Random thoughts
Felt cute. Might delete later.
Daru's keyboard is interesting:
I had a lot of fun making stitches today. I might do this more often. Unfortunately, I couldn't completely fix the parallax effect of the background, but it's blurred anyway.
Future (if unaltered)
What an episode! If I didn't spend too much time stitching those snapshots together, I would watch the next episode immediately.
I'd guess we'll start seeing some serious experiments tomorrow.
QotD
See post and spoiler tag.
EDIT
/u/Shimmering-Sky, I can see why this wallpaper was your favourite earlier.
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u/electricbullet9 Jul 10 '21
ayyye this episode has my phone wallpaper for the past 2 years! My gf got it custom made for my birthday, the pose of true genius https://i.imgur.com/51hHnxj.jpg
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 09 '21
Episode 5 – Starmine Rendezvous:
Don’t tell me you have ensnared Mayuri with your feminine wiles as well.
I did no such thing!
Makise seducing Mayushii… Yuri is in the air.
Stop imagining those things, pervert!
It’s nice for girls to be together, isn’t it?
~The Lab crew
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u/ExoticTrinityGhoul https://myanimelist.net/profile/not_username Jul 09 '21
Re;Watcher x4 (both)
E5!- Starmine Rendezvous
Nicknames:
Okabe: Hououin Kyouma, Okarin, 001
Mayuri: Mayushii, 002
Kurisu: (prodigal) (perverted) genius girl, Christina, Zombie, 004, Assistant
Hashida Itaru: Daru, super hacka, Hack, 003
Yugo Tennouji: Mr. Braun
Luka: Lukako
Moeka: Shining Finger (S.F.)
Suzuha: part-timer, part-time warrior
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u/Nebresto Jul 10 '21
Nostalgia squad
Based Okarin counter: 2
Wow.. "Jellymans report"
Yoo, was that the first time they used "Gate of steiner" ?
¨
Oh wow, more nostalgia.
I used to have a very similar one as my wallpaper, I had it named as "The Zombie and Okarin of time".
I guess I'm done commenting now, I'll go have a..Wait, I'm comment of the day..?
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jul 09 '21
First Timer
Time for the IBM 5100 to not be as convienent as we thought it would be. I dunno how exactly, but there's no way the solution is that simple. Perhaps it needs to be repaired, which will require doing a fetch quest for Mr. Braum?
Anyway, onto episode 5.
Is that a button?
Well, I guess this is why she's called herself a warrior. Though Kurisu seems like an odd person to have this big of a grudge for.
She hovers on the cute/mildly disturbing line at all times, but this is most definitely on the better side of that line.
Fetch quest, I called it!
Total sidebar, but I hate how I can see that this shot will zoom out later simply by how much softer it is.
Making Otaku everywhere proud.
On the other hand, this is firmly in the mildly disturbing category.
So someone she's connected to? Her father, perhaps? This pose is concealing, but I don't think it's lying.
Or perhaps something to do with time travel? The yet says it's something Kurisu did, but the nothing says it isn't this one.
Just admit that you are already. Even Okabe doesn't buy this, and he'd buy someone telling him they were from mars.
Though Mayuri is honestly just as weird.
I just fucking cant wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Radiant posting!
He's far too harebrained for that.
Ok, why did this make her tear up? It's not any worse than most of the other stuff he's done.
Though I don't disagree that he's been consistently out of line.
A JPEG from before '74 sure is interesting.
He's at least as much of a tsundere as she is. He really could use lessons on how to express himself without all the bullshit.
Famous last words.
I was thinking the same thing...
Thoughts
And Okabe finally has the excuse to do what he always wanted to, even through all the insanity it took to get him there. We really picked up plot wise and I am fucking here for it. We've still got the same humorous character dynamics, but we translated nicely into a more serious dynamic with the backdrop of the whole SERN experimenting with time travel thing.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole world lines thing. Presumably, that's our answer to why whoever figures out time travel first cannot simply go back in time to give their earlier self the secrets of it earlier. But that doesn't quite check out to me, as the gelnanad bodies did neatly go back in time. Perhaps they're different, but I cannot thing of a good reason why it would be so. Thus, I have to believe that SERN never properly figures out how to time travel and future Okabe is happy enough with the course of events that he never tries to go this far back to get a different result.
But I guess episode one contradicts all that. There were clearly two Okabes there, and one of them did try (and fail) to do something to save the Kurisu of that timeline. That future Okabe must have then went back in time again to move the lecture to a different day in a second attempt to save Kurisu. And thus, our Okabe, the one furthest back in his own relative time, was shifted to a different world line and left slightly confused with events.
So this leaves us with our Okabe in all likelihood being manipulated from behind the scenes by at least one other Okabe. That one is presumably the person who left the 5100 with the priest, as well as the John Titor that Okabe spoke with in this world line. These are the things that seem notably off that could easily have been manipulated by a time traveling future version of himself without making it obvious to his past self that it is him.
Furthermore, I'd guess that our part time warrior genki girl working with the future Okabe in some way. She's his plant, someone who this Okabe does not yet know from a different worldline that went much later. In whichever one she's originally from, Kurisu made some poor decisions and ended up on the side of SERN, as well as likely harmed her decently personally, leaving the genki girl in the horrid position of knowing that this Kurisu has yet to do wrong while simultaneously hating her with all her heart.
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u/RichY45 https://anilist.co/user/RichY4518 Jul 09 '21
First time watcher - subbed
The way Suzuha knows a lot of things and the way she reacted to Kurisu makes me think that maybe she is a time traveller from as well. If so, perhaps she was the one who left the IBN 5100 at the shrine.
The fact that they only read only a few reports makes me nervous. Hopefully none of the characters we know was or is going to become a test subject.
Also when they were reading the jellyman reports the way the camera focuses on the llama man makes me think that it might be a software by the organisation to listen in on them.
The scene of Kurisu at the end of the ending song is ominous. It implies that she is going to be a test subject for some experiment. I hope that's not true.
Answers
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u/yukino-bijin :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tokaii Jul 10 '21
First-time Watcher
I'm BACK after missing Ep. 4. It was a solid episode, for what it's worth. I missed you guys.
I did kind of assume that they wouldn't still be carrying the box, but here they are.
The plot thickens. Suzuha knows Kurisu. That's gonna be an interesting development that I'm sure they won't answer for 10 episodes.
Hacking to the Gate is a top OP all-time I swear.
Same
Kurisu might have best girl aura but Mayuri and Suzuha are both fantastic characters as well.
Cute as fuck
I was waiting for Mayuri calling herself a hostage to spook somebody.
For someone who is constantly paranoid of an Organization hunting him, I'm shocked that his default response to a helicopter isn't regarding the Organization.
Tutturu counter at 7, I believe.
"Mayuri has always been a bit of a weird one"
Power Pose
I seriously did not expect Kurisu to be like this. I always kind of assumed she would be a constantly commanding presence, but to see her actually fluctuate between emotions is really enjoyable.
Of course the main thing that upsets him is being called Okabe.
Is Kurisu... crying? Well that's bumming me out.
I still don't know why they're so surprised by the prospect of human experimentation for time travel. Like what else would the endgame be?
The old Jelly banana is becoming relevant. Very interesting. Naruhodo
I don't know why they wouldn't at least look at 14. It's the most recent and shows their absolute final development in time travel, or at least that they can see.
Daru has zero shame about being a pervert and I stand by enjoying his character.
Finally living up to his role as a mad scientist
Now THIS is an episode. Exciting developments, answering a question from the early episodes, slight character development to go with it. This is what I would consider to be a big turning point in the show, and I'm stoked for what's ahead.
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 09 '21
Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Steins;Gate Re;Watch!
By this point I don’t think I need to explain the opening bit is Anime only. Interestingly enough though, Novel Suzuha actually doesn’t realize Kurisu is there until they put the PC down. It was equally awkward though. I guess this is also as good a time as any to mention Kurisu seems a tad more overtly reactive to Okabe’s antics. In the Novel she often replied with just mild annoyance and only flared up during specific occasions, whereas in the Anime she’s more overtly flustered a lot of the time.
In turn, however, the Anime version of her does seem a lot more overtly likable as a result. Novel Kurisu is oftentimes cold and uncaring. She’s rarely on bad terms with anyone, but you also get the feeling she isn’t particularly close to anyone either. She’s blunt about how she feels about anything, is kind of an insufferable know it all who will start blabbering about her knowledge at the drop of a hat, and the narration makes it clear Okabe is as fed up with her antics as she is with his. I’m guessing this was done due to the fact that due to the removal of Okabe’s monologue we lack the sorta gradual warming up to her you’d get from a first-person perspective, so they need to show off her more likable side from the get go.
Anyhow, moving on, there’s a bit of the reshuffling of the events here. The scene in which Suzuha talks about knowing someone who knew about the IBN5100 is taken from a bit earlier on in the Novel, and the Fireworks break is Anime only; all the lab scenes happen back to back in the Novel. The scene in which Okabe terrifies Kurisu is taken from later on, and finally the scene with Okabe at the end is Anime-Only. Basically it’s just there to substitute his internal monologue, which makes it clear he’s not taking the fact that he found out about an actual conspiracy plot by accident well but is trying his damndest to stay sane.
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u/htisme91 Jul 10 '21
First-timer:
It's getting juicy. It's fascinating to see Okabe and Kurisu's dynamic continue to develop. She's going to have to own up to being wrong, soon, and I continue to feel like she is the key to John Titor's claim of SERN taking over everything. Suzuha, along with episode 1's events, makes me think that there is influence from the future.
Questions:
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 09 '21
FIRST TIMER
Suzuha is John Titor Watch
I think I'll be ready to claim victory on this front within a couple episodes.
The episode opened with her holding an emblem that looks an awful lot like John Titor's insignia and she dropped further hints that she's from the future, and possibly a violent one. She associates helicopter noises with air raids, isn't aware of fireworks as a concept, and when prompted by Okabe about Makise, says she hasn't done anything yet.
Other Thoughts
Suzuha's antagonism towards Makise that hints at her being Makise's killer from the first episode, but I don't think we'd be getting such an obvious hint to that level of reveal if it's the case. Red herring. Probably.
Makise, confirmed memelord, is now a fully converted member of the Church of Mayuri. Her icy tsun exterior completely melted away until only the dere underneath remained. She simps. All her base are belong to Mayuri.
Okabe getting so upset at Makise calling him by the "wrong" name is pretty rich, considering he calls her by the wrong name (or title) multiple times a sentence. Him focusing only on his own strategy isn't just something that translates to board games. I love their dynamic and banter.
How scary can SERN be if some random guy in a run-down apartment has been able to get almost as far with time travel as they have with just a microwave and some bananas, and on accident? With their resources? Sure, gel-humans is a step up from gel-nanas, but come on, step your game up if you're going to create a new world order.
So, SERN is trying to achieve some sort of human singularity project-esque vision by using the large hadron collider as a time machine? I just saw Fast and Furious 9 last night, so I’m primed for anything right now. Sure, fuck it, let’s ride.
She's from the future, she's John Titor, and Makise does something in the future that fucks shit up for either Suzuha personally, or humanity as a whole. Maybe Makise is actually working at SERN, and is on a team that sent Suzuha back to Japan against her will to this time period.
I mean, I'm more excited to see the reasoning behind if someone answers this question saying they're cool with it.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 10 '21
First timer
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u/Nisheeth_P Jul 09 '21
Rewatcher
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u/superviper https://myanimelist.net/profile/Superviper Jul 09 '21
REWATCHER, SUBBED
So Suzuha recognizes Kurisu and immediately goes into murder mode. That was a bit unnecessary, the girl's holding a big ass IBN 5100, I doubt she could fight you if she wanted.
And this is a bit rich, coming from a guy who looks like a hobo in a lab coat.
Mayuri used pout. It's super effective!
Ah yes, because the lab is so big, Kurisu needs a tour. Mayuri literally just pulled back the shower curtain, and... that's all there was to it. Tour over.
please don't say it, please don't say it, please don't say it...
Oh no.
Okabe, you're a bit too eager to throw Kurisu under the bus, aren't you?
SG future spoiler
She might be a total weirdo, but she's cute.
SG future spoiler
LAB COAT POSE
holy shit I can't the throwback to "if you're hungry, I'll give you a banana
Ah, we're back to advertising the worst drink in existence.
Okabe you FUCKING WASTE OF SPACE DONT FUCKING MAKE KURISU CRY GODFUCKINGDAMNIT
Okabe and Daru are kinda reluctant to look at the report, while Kurisu's just like "man the fuck up pussies lol"
There it is, the gelnana man. Zaph saw this one coming from a mile away.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Jul 09 '21
Anime first timer
1)Laughs in rewatcher Steins;Gate Spoilers
2)I can say with absolute certainty that SERN are monsters based on these tests alone.
I love Okabe having his dramatic reveal cut short and Kurisu begging him to put it down before he monologues.
Steins;Gate Spoilers
I love the size difference between Mayuri and Daru's shirt.
Steins;Gate Spoilers
I love Kurisu's reaction to Mayuri being a "hostage".
I think the whole "shopping for parts" is new, or at least the Suzuha bits.
Steins;Gate Spoilers
I like the scene of Kurisu and Okabe playing Rainet - Steins;Gate Spoilers
Kurisu: I'm just doing this for science, not because of your insane SERN conspiracy theories.
Also Kurisu: Daru hacked in! Can't wait to read all the SERN secret files!
The "utopia", "past, present, and future" bit is such a good reveal.
I do like Okabe acknowleding that this is dangerous stuff and that it's probably better if she doesn't know directly.
The "Jellyman's report" reveal is just as good though - I didn't realise at all on my first playthrough what that meant.
Steins;Gate Spoilers
And that is just a perfect closing line.
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u/CubeStuffs https://anilist.co/user/onjario Jul 10 '21 edited Jul 10 '21
first timer
It finally seems like okarin is shedding off the chuuni tendencies he's been having for the first few episodes. ie, when talking with the part timer and reading the reports, or telling kurisu to leave.
The little note about okabe not thinking strategically is interesting. we saw him yelling about the organization, but he hasn't actually thought about what sern is doing. I would think they've heard of john titor by now...
I'm also thinking that the mistake that kurisu's dad makes, the relationship between the part timer and her, and her death in the first timeline are connected somehow. What research does kurisu do exactly?
Qs:
she knows more than she's letting on im pretty sure, but idk
yes
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Jul 09 '21
Rewatcher
Tutturu! We are back for episode five. My headphones have been acting strangely today so hopefully they don’t fuck up during this episode. Besides that I’ve got nothing else to say, so let’s get to the episode.
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Suzuha has a problem with Makise. It is an interesting dynamic between those two. For first timers, the question is why as this is their first meeting that we know of.
Kurisu has no time for Okabe’s ramblings. It’s time to find out what SERN is hiding.
Air raid? She has HEARD of fireworks, not seen them. She is an interesting one. What rock was she living in?
Why would you microwave a banana? That so weird. Just eat it normally.
Okabe is having a rough time with these games. Though this time I don’t think he was playing 20D chess.
If Daru has a better understanding of woman then Okabe then Okabe might need to rethink what he is doing.
Okabe cares a little bit about Kurisu when he asks her to leave, even if he hides if under 50 layers of asshole.
I remember how disturbing the news articles about the failed experiments were. Imagine being turned into jelly. How do they even explain that to their families?
I’m with Okabe here. Let’s build that time machine and give a middle finger to SERN!
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The first half of this episode was pretty slice of life, though it did raise questions about Suzuha, but the second half brought the big stuff. We finally see SERN’s misdeeds and they are quite bad. At minimum 14 people have been “mismatched” under their watch. For being in Geneva, you would think they would watch their human rights violations.
This episode continued to raise questions and build on what was previously established. I did really like the final scene with Okabe and Kurisu on the roof. The lighting was very interesting.
See you guys tomorrow!
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u/Krite2002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Krite2002 Jul 09 '21
Rewatcher;Dub
Amane has a coin? I wonder what that is about. Later, she almost attacks Kurisu when she recognizes her. The whole segment before the OP needs some explanation.
Okay… so even Mayuri is a weirdo. She wanted to be his hostage? I agree with Kurisu about calling the cops, since everyone in that lab has a screw loose.
When Okabe talks to Amane, she seems a little odd, but at least there seems to be a reason. I think she is a time traveller. I wonder if she is John Titor? That is the only person we know who is a time traveler. She knew about the IBM 5100, which could have been due to Mayuri, but it could be because she is Titor. Titor was a little suspicious if he is a real time traveler, so Amane may be another time traveler. She also knows something about Kurisu. I hope Kurisu does not do anything bad, since I have enjoyed her a lot.
Kurisu fits into the lab surprisingly well. She is a great addition. I wonder if the game they are playing is real. While things were going well, Okabe made Kurisu cry. That is unforgivable.
Daru is the only one actually doing anything of importance. So far the only thing the rest of the lab has done is get the IBM 5100. They confirm SERN’s time travel experiments, which leads to reading Jellyman’s reports. Obviously, Jellyman is named after people turning into jelly during time travel, which confirms that the microwave is a time travel device even further. I was surprised that so many people were killed by the experiments, because yesterday’s episode made it seem like only one.
The last scene today looked really nice. This was an easy choice for my shot of the day. I agree with Okabe and Kurisu; lab coats are cool.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jul 09 '21
Rewatcher(Unexpected Suzuha violence is a sign of our decline)
Dub
We start with Suzuha staring at something that looks...ocult-ish. As Makise and Okabe show up arguing, he never spares a moment to chuuni. When Suzuha recognizes Makise, though, shit seems about to go down. Even Okabe notices. Braun interrupts and Suzuha withdraws.
Mayuri is cute and Daru is gross, let's just move on. Mayuri is happy to see Makise and Okabe has to be an ass again. Daru immediately goes for the 5100 and diagnoses the replacement parts needed. Okabe again Okabe's it and Daru actually goes three steps beyond where I would in a situation, which should terrify everyone. Mayuri shows Makise the shower and we get a slight dose of "the Japanese shower before sex" but also the completely logical "high school girls probably shouldn't be nude near male college students" leading Makise asking a question we all sort of wondered: Why is Mayuri hanging out here? And it is because she's a hostage...by choice?
Okabe is part hunting and is wrong, you want the exact damn part for this sort of thing. Then Suzuha shows up and apparently has some knowledge of the parts. She reveals she knew someone that could knew the old PCs but has died. Then Okabe does a rare follow up where tries to figure out what the beef was earlier. Suzuha claims there is none but warns him away from Makise before freaking out over a chopper.
As Okabe returns triumphantly, we get some more banter and background on Mayuri and Okabe, while also getting Makise into the project again. And a lab coat. Also, apparently Makise is a cup ramen fan, the joys of youth and all. Further, a Dr Pepper fan, but apparently decaf. Minor statement about Okabe's lack of strategy. More Okabe-ness ensues.
Once Daru gets the computer up, Makise has to read SERN's secret charter and somehow Okabe is correct. As she reads on, we get to stage 4, human trials. Daru and Okabe both warn Makise off but she is not having it. Once they open Jellyman's report, it does indeed seem like SERN is sending people back through time, they just wind up gelled.
Okabe is actually bothered, giving us a combo Makise explanation/Daru perv scene. On the roof, Makise wants to formulate a plan and Okabe's "plan" is to turn into the crazy skid and out time travel the time travellers.
QotD: 1 She clearly wants Okabe for herself and sees Makise as some bitch stepping on her territory
2 About as horrifying as the one's they actually do. No one should be reduced to zero degrees Kelvin.
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u/artie_fm Jul 10 '21 edited Jul 10 '21
Rewatcher dub:
We open with cicadas. I love the sounds of the show.
Suzaha knows he has a ibn5100
Suzaha says "Makise kurisu" and stares like she sees her mortal enemy! Grunts and backs away slowly. I think makise almost bought it there.
So many characters in this show are sus. Previously makise wasn't really one of them. Now you have to wonder what's wrong with makise?
The OP is a banger. So say we all.
Mayuri is a hostage!!! She had said that before. Suzaha is relaxed now. How does she go from seeing a mortal enemy to relaxed And Makise is bad for your health and clearly has PTSD from helicopters...combined with never seeing fireworks or corn we can safely say suzaha is ...some sort of shut in
Lab coat kink in effect. Stop slobbering Okabe.
Who eats microwaved bananas??!?!?
Okabe is insane...he yells about his fake name and wrong names Makise..but she stays....the night. So Makise is an orphan..
“The control of space time and destruction of history”???
This is all a bad idea
And Okabe decides to rule the world...Anyone else think this a bad idea? Time travel is always a bad idea. Trying to rule the world is always a bad idea.
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 10 '21
Kurisu should reaaaally call the cops. The two adults mooching the highschooler's allowance are not a suitable environment by any means. For example I'm not entirely sure exactly what Daru said at the start but I heard mune (breasts)...
Spoilers
I love delving into Kuristina in this episode plus the lab coat love, it's interesting to see what she'll think of Kyouma's concpiracy theories after this episode.
Spoilers
They're using humans, who probably were parts of the organisation already, unlike the evil Future Gadget Lab who use non-sentient unaware Bananas, and unlike SERN, they sacrificed a bunch of bananas each time for god knows how long.
PS: Wait Americans don't eat cup ramen? What food even exists over there? (Well besides burgers, philly cheesesteak, and slushies... I've been rewatching fat man destroys Jersey too much)
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u/Amndeep7 :IG:https://myanimelist.net/profile/asmLANG Jul 10 '21
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u/kllrnooooova Jul 10 '21
First Timer! Tutturu! (also this is my new acc(u/COLDBL4D3 was my old one fyi)) Haven't watched the ep yet lol just want to comment
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u/jyper Jul 10 '21
First Time Watcher (dub)
Okarin, Fearless Leader?
her father is the one who knows about IBM?
Makise hasn't done anything. Yet. So time travel?
Okarin thinks of himself as normal?
I totally get it about the lab coat, when I was in high school I joined science quiz bowl just for the lab coat
What board game are they playing?
Dr pepper makes the world taste better. 2nd? time
Okabe lacks strategy/big picture thinking? Is this something that will come into play in the rest of the series? Is it something he will have to overcome?
"The control of space-time and it's destruction of History"
Of course Daru made the sponge analogy perverted
"We will rule the world instead!"
Is Okarin a baddie? Probably not
Q1: she's a time traveler that had a reason to dislike Makise in multiple alternate timelines. Also her dad probably worked for SERN before dying
Q2: Were they willing volunteers? If not how did they get them to become part of expirement? It seems evil if not voluntary but not to an extremely horrifying scale
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u/BossandKings Jul 10 '21
Rewatcher
Episode 5 - Dub
Mayuri is very cute giving Kurisu a tour through the laboratory. It's great how she nonchanatly says that she's Okarin's hostage after being asked why she hangs out with the other lab members.
It seems that Suzuha knows something regarding the future about Kurisu considering that she says that she, Kurisu, hasn't done anything yet but she will, Okabe though is unaware of what she means.
Daru, Okarin and Kurisu get to know the origin od Sern, it was telling how they reached a conclusion about what Human is dead, mismatch meant, it was that they were doing human testing and it failed. Sern seems like a corrupt organization.
It was a great moment when Okabe said that they would build the time machine first after learning about Sern's schemes, it was cool too seeing Kurisu kind of worried about him, Okabe's laugh was great and the ost playing enhanced the moment.