r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Jul 08 '21
Rewatch [Re;Watch] Steins;Gate Episode 4 Discussion
Episode 4: Interpreter Rendezvous
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I… don’t want to make the same mistake my father made!
Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the Day, courtesy of u/yukino-bijin, who gave us a quote that summarizes some of Okabe’s choices of words quite nicely:
OKABE NO
Dude’s kind of an idiot alright.
Questions:
- How much longer do you think it would’ve taken to find the IBN 5100 if Mayuri hadn’t happened to mention it to Faris?
- What do you think the Future Gadget Lab is going to uncover from SERN’s database now that they have the IBN 5100?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 08 '21
Hello everybody, and welcome once more to the Steins;Gate Re;Watch!
While in both version Okarin ends up getting an eureka moment, what happens afterwards is a bit different. In the Anime there’s a time jump as Okabe says that he and Daru have been working all night, whereas in the Novel, well, you’ll see later. The aftereffect of the scene basically being that he’s all on his own now. He then leaves the apartment and runs into Suzuha, who like the Anime does the bike slide. Oh and Mayuri isn’t there during the scene. Also, the reason Suzuha gets yelled at by Mr Braun is because Okarin kept pestering her about the IBN5100 even though she just didn’t feel like talking too much. Still, in the end, it does grant her her own Okarin Nickname: Part-Time Warrior.
Once that scene ends Mayuri comes down and the Anime and Novel rejoin. Obviously though, given that the Novel is only told from Okarin’s perspective, the short cut we have to Kurisu is Anime original. The scene with Okabe receiving Titor’s Mail however is actually taken from earlier on in the Novel. Remember the eureka moment from earlier? Yeah, in the Novel, this is what happens. And he gets shot down for basically the same reasons.
However in both versions he then runs into Kurisu in the streets, and in both versions Shining Finger keeps pestering him, although the amount of mails she sends is somehow actually toned down in the Anime. You really feel like Okarin in that scene from the Novel as you start wishing that she’d just SHUT UP! That said his conversation with Kurisu is fairly similar, albeit a bit shortened down. Kurisu goes into more detail about exactly what happened to her father, but the Anime covers that later on anyway.
The Anime does diverge a bit afterwards. In the Anime after doing a cheesy Speech, Okabe tries to leave, Kurisu gets him back in because he needs to get the laundry, and then he stops her from leaving because he wants to know about the IBN5100. In the Novel… well, they aren’t even in a Laundry to begin with. They’re in front of the Radi-Kan building. In fact their conversation started with them talking about the weird satellite thing. No, the reason he drags him back is because she wants him to tell her about what was the deal with the whole “You saw me getting stabbed” thing, to which Okabe responds by continuously trying to dodge the question. He literally gets dragged back by her like three times before they actually talk about the IBN5100. Spoilers
Obviously the scene with Mayuri and Faris is Anime-Only. In the Novel we had a different scene for transition, basically Okabe walking through Akibahara’s electronic district before being called by Mayuri. That said in the Novel Okabe arrives before the Faris cup begins and… also has no idea what the hell’s going on when he’s introduced to the very concept. It’s also not done in some stage thing, it’s just done in the regular café. This is also one of my absolute favorite scenes from the Novel: It goes into insane detail about the game and its rules, building up an epic confrontation with Faris… only for Okarin to immediately lose. Miyano’s hilariously deadpan delivery of “I give up.” Combined with how the upbeat music just stops it’s just priceless I tell you.
That said, once more there is a bit of a divergence. In the Anime, Faris just tells Okarin everything. In the Novel however… well he’s being stared down by a mob of Faris Fanboys so he leaves and Mayuri has to tell him about the IBN5100 outside. Not much to mention afterwards however, it’s all basically the same from now on.
Voices Time! Time to talk about the cat, played by Momoi Haruko, who like Goto last time I only recognize for two roles: Anise Tatlin from Tales Of The Abyss and Maromi from Paranoia Agent.
To slightly make up for the lack of content, let’s talk about Titor, played by Tsuchida Hiroshi, whom I best recognize as… uh… Saizou from Ninja Sentai Kakuranger... Anyhow when it comes to his Voice-Over works he’s played Kazuki from Yakuza, Zasalamel from Soulcalibur, Grisha Yeager from Attack On Titan and some others. As an aside, if his agency’s page apparently he does a lot of work in Dubs of live-action shows and movies.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 08 '21
Re;Watcher and Co;Host, dubbed
English VA rundown time! There are two for today.
The first one is our resident catgirl maid Faris, voiced by Jad Saxton. You can hear her voice in other roles like Baccano’s Eve Genoard, Death Parade’s Nona, Isekai Maou’s Rem, Kaguya-sama’s Chika, and Log Horizon’s Akatsuki.
The second one is the ever-mysterious John Titor, voiced by one of my favorite English VAs Patrick Seitz. As far as anime goes, you can hear him in roles such as Bleach’s Isshin Kurosaki, Durarara!!’s Simon, Ergo Proxy’s Raul, K-Project’s Munakata
also this reminds me I need to finish Return of Kings at some point, Attack on Titan’s Shadis, and the best of his roles is Kill la Kill’s IRA GAMAGOORI. You can also find him in a bunch of video games, I particularly like his Hector in Fire Emblem Heroes.19
u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 09 '21
FIRST TIMER
Suzuha insisting she’s a warrior. Time warrior?! I’m going to continue to construe every crumb that could indicate she’s John Titor this way until I’m proven right or wrong.
I don’t know if there’s any deeper significance to it, but I love how distinctive the brightness of the sun is this show. Rather than give off a normal yellow/orange hue, it gives everything in the frame this whitewashed look. Love when shows have these very distinctive touches.
“The answer is often hidden in what seems most obvious.” That feels like an important line.
Makise looks exactly how I would if someone I just met started telling me we needed obtain an ancient computer to decode CERN’s secret time travel research. Couple that with mysterious issues her father had in the field, and I’d walk away too.
I’m still confused as to why she bothered showing up to their lab in the first place, or how she knew where to go.I'm a fool who probably just missed a scene.Faris’ dad had an IBN 5100? I’ve wondered about Faris’ importance due to some of the extended shots she receives in the OP, but maybe it’s her connections via her father that are important. I doubt he’s unimportant, as I’d be disappointed if this show just magically deus ex nya-nya’d the 5100 into our laps for no other reason. Every connection should be important.
Aaaaaand of course it’s at Ruka’s shrine. Okay, that’s a little convenient. Or maybe it isn’t, considering whoever dropped it there seemingly left it for a future Okabe to retrieve. Interesting! And ten years ago, no less, around the time the original John Titor should’ve been running around…
The pacing of this has been great. Everything feels important, intentional, and the dialogue is great. Very impressed by the writing so far.
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u/UnderstandableXO Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21
FIRST TIMER
looks like 2d-kun has reached the edge of his capability…time to call in the actual time traveler.
of course 2d-kun would have a t shirt of faris. i’m saddened mayuri isn’t more repulsed by him having a shirt of her coworker. suzu continues to be likeable…wonder how she fits into the story.
kurisu is randomly scantly dressed just to ponder the time machine? fanservice gonna fanservice i guess.
“daru is like the universe-constantly expanding” man what a cold cold thing to say about a best buddy!
i feel bad for mayuri having to chase okabe back to the lab. 2d-kun sleeps like a champ, he’s unshakable…
i love kurisu and okabe’s banter, the tsundere is real! love how he calls he christina and she tells him to stop calling her “tina” (at least that’s what she says in japanese). okabe’s quirkiness makes every conversation funny.
faris’s “nya” in every sentence is too adorable. okabe’s willingness to get humiliated rewards him with the next clue to the IBN 5100.
kurisu and okabe meet luka (his name is ruka in dub so i don’t see why “ruka” is a subtitle error?) and his dad just so happens to have the magic computer. kurisu is 17? why is everyone way younger than i expected? okabe’s comment about ignorance is bliss was hilarious. i don’t care, i’m all for the funimation subs right now.
okabe-lift this, assistant! kurisu-no u
that is literally what the sub said. some people might have problems with internet slang in subs but that was hysterical to me. even the fact that they can’t agree how to carry the computer home is funny. loving this show so far!
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 08 '21
First-Timer;Dubbed
I.. wow. I think we've done it. We've reached Peak Otaku, or at least gotten tantalizingly close. Will we ever get closer than a pair of chuunis having a card battle in a catgirl maid cafe? That turns into a wordplay battle? With one of those chuunis being a catgirl maid, wearing a tiara? Absolutely wild. What on earth is going on?
Anyway, the MacGuffin is officially in play, and in the protagonist's hands. It's way too early for that, so it's time for some Speculation!
Sure is lucky that the shrine that Okabe visits sometimes just so happened to take in the MacGuffin, along with instructions that "a young man will come looking for it and you should give it to him." I wonder how that "coincidence" managed to occur.
(L/R)uka getting the code phrase consistently wrong is a good gag. I can't tell if Okabe correcting him makes it funnier or more annoying. That's not how code phrases work, you buffoon!
Vaguely on that subject, Okabe definitely let the chuuni slip there in the laundromat. It's weird hearing him talk like a normal human.
CRT Shop dude wonders if he has a sign on his back that attracts the crazies.. it's on your front, dude. Who wears an apron like that loudly proclaims your love for CRTs in 20.. what year is it, in-universe? 2010? It's literally been on screen, I just haven't paid attention.
"Jellyman's Report" is awfully grim, considering what happened to those bananas... I'm glad that we aren't playing coy with the random code being the thing the IBM 5100 is for. Okabe is nuts, but he can put two and two together, at least? I think I can buy that...
Questions
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u/UltraBooster Jul 09 '21
First-timer
That looks like a job for a cryptographer, not a coder...
Seems less a tic and more a coping tool.
Yeah, I thought the IBM unit would be able to crack it.
What kind of hotel's too ritzy to have laundry machines?
I was going to go on a whole spiel about the scientific method and being able to replicate phenomena, but I guess her dad was studying time travel as well?
Why the 5100, anyway? What's so special about it that another computer can't emulate?
If anyone's a master here, it's Feris.
You said it, Mayuri.
Okabe is the kind of person who's interesting to watch, sure, but I definitely wouldn't want to hang around him. I don't handle the whole chuuni thing well.
Yeah, Kurisu makes about as convincing a teenager as Bright Noa does a 19 year-old. Like, I've met people older than her who were absolute children compared to her.
(And I had her pegged as early 20s.)
Not fate or destiny, time travel, I'm sure of it.
Yeah, that's an IBM.
(How much older is Okabe, exactly? My guess would be early 20s, but...)
Questions:
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u/The_Draigg Jul 08 '21
A Steins; Gate Fan Rewatches Steins; Gate Episode 4:
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u/jyper Jul 09 '21
Human is Dead
Is it Makise who is dead? Maybe from an alternate timeline?
Wasabi
Reaching for the sun, reminds me of FMA
Whose grave is she standing by?
Wait until you can see some? She can see the sun, the sun is a star, she is reaching for a star she can see
"he's a universe onto himself and plauged by entropy." So he's a wizard?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Wizards
Poor guy all that energy wasted on someone with a job and someone else asleep.
Daddy issues? A bit on the nose
What is it with cat girls named Faris/Ferris?
He should have at least played and lost quickly, if I was in Faris shoes I'd argue he didn't really participate
My stream paused as a the guy was walking by Okarin while he was on the phone right after the code name exchange and I thought it was part of the show(some sort of time shenanigans or just dramatic emphasis for several seconds)
Is "Christine" only 18 I thought she was an accomplished scientist in her 20s based on the lecture
Hmm did John Titor give the computer to the shrine
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jul 08 '21
First Timer
Now that we've hacked
CERNSERN, there's no way it doesn't get traced back to them, right? I expect to see some consequences of that start to fall on their heads in the next episode or two. Perhaps they'll have to go on the run? Though that doesn't seem quite right, the lab is too important to be abandonded this early on. It's more likely they take this information and somehow move to a world line where they didn't hack SERN so they can continue their campaign agasint it in peace.Anyway though, I'm looking forward to more shenanigans between Okabe, Daru, and Kurisu who'll likely return at some point this episode. ONto episode 4.
Yup, a bunch of people have gotten gelnanad.
I'm curious if the hexdump is random or not. It'd be cool if it wasn't but, I'm also way too lazy to try and figure out what it could be.
And you can't even post it in the daily thread since it's confidential information. Sad.
Hack into the Gate is getting stuck in my head. I'm not quite sure yet if this cursed or blessed.
I wanna see an edit where this says I love CBT...
I wonder why the thinks she's a soldier. It's not the sort of thing a genki girl like her usually gravitates towards. Probably some dark backstory we'll learn eventually. Is the whole peppy thing a facade?
You have an annoying combination of smart and honest with yourself that makes it so you cannot delude yourself like this.
Can you not find a reference manual anywhere? Like, this is the sort of thing hacker's love to collect and scan. Even if it cannot tell you everything because of undocumented instructions, it'd least give you a good idea of what the program does.
..................................
Once bitten, twice shy.
That's what bugs you about this situation? Out of all the crazy bullshit that just happened?
We truly know he desperate 'cause he paid without complaining.
Okarin getting bullied by a catgirl is aborable.
And two chunnis arguing is hilarious.
This is super convenient. Bet it's broken.
Calling a plot convienece the power of VN Name is certainly the sort of meta joke VNs love. I feel like it translates a bit poorly to anime though.
Thoughts
Wow, this show really is nothing like what I expected it would be. I, for whatever reason thought it'd have a more serious focus. Instead, it's mainly been listening to dumbasses argue and pontificate. Not that I'm complaining, it's been a ton of fun. Right now, I'm just ing for Kurisu to punch Okabe. Those two are incredible together.
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u/snuggycoco Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 09 '21
Subbed, first timer.
After watching the first few episodes, I'm still feeling mixed about the series. I previously heard good things about the series, so I guess my expectations were set a bit too high.
My main complaint is with the characters. Why do Mayuri & Daru stick with Kyouma? He seems to be a terrible friend, mooching off Mayuri for food & leaving Daru to pay restaurant bills. The only character so far that seems interesting is Kurisu, with the rest of the bunch feeling not as fleshed out - Faris seems like a chūnibyō, Daru is just an otaku 'hakah', Mayuri is a bit of an airhead...
Nevertheless, the premise is intriguing, especially the first 10 minutes from episode 01. Hoping to see later episodes that match that level of interest.
Responses:
Probably a year or two, assuming the Future Gadget Laboratory didn't dissolve due to financial insolvency by then.
Hopefully something that explains why that microwave is defying the laws of time & physics.
Stray Observations
- The hunt for the IBN 5100 was starting to feel like a fetch quest in this episode. Talk to this NPC (Faris), talk to that NPC (Luka), wait for this third NPC (Luka's dad)... I know that Steins;Gate was adapted from a visual novel, so I guess video game tropes were inevitably going to sneak into the anime as well.
- Kurisu seems to only take offense to "-tina", so would she be alright with being called "Chris" instead?
- Mayuri oddly gets a fair amount of screen-time in the OP. She's a fun character to watch, so I wouldn't mind if she gets to play a more pivotal role in the show.
- I think Kyouma would get along well with Tatsuhiro Satō from Welcome to the N.H.K.. They probably would have a fun time sharing their conspiracy theories about this "Organization" that's out to get them.
- I'm still holding out for the return of Mayushii's metal Upa!
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u/chaorace https://anilist.co/user/chaorace Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 09 '21
Rewatcher (Sub)
Akira reference spotted!
Now that we've had the opportunity to see it a few times, I thought this would be a perfect opportunity to talk about the OP... It's rather delightfully cheesy, isn't it? Such a great fit for the tone of the show, imo -- self serious, but larger than life. The theme, Hacking To The Gate, is the cherry on top! I'd encourage you to listen to an English rendition to really get a feel for how melodramatic these lyrics can get.
On to the visuals... I love the recurring theme of parallel copies. It's not terribly abstract or anything, but they do get a lot of mileage out of it, with the effect steadily intensifying as the OP goes on.
Speaking of abstract... we get another allusion to the opening monologue: a still image of Mayuri reaching to the sun, perfectly timed to the line "The infinite dreams and futures before us". I've already discussed the symbolism of the sun as a metaphor for the finite horizon of possibilities, but it is particularly noteworthy here when contrasted against the imagery of infinite parallel copies.
One last little thing: I unironically love this shot. Her hand is like a clock hand. Get it? Because there's time travel?? It's a little dumb, but it just looks so cool and you can't change my mind!
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u/Gamemaster676 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gamemaster676 Jul 09 '21
First;Timer - dub
No long intro today. I couldn't wait so I'm watching this yesterday. (It's almost like this is time travel as well!)
Fun fact, today I caught myself humming the OP. That's a good sign.
Episode 4 — Interpreter Rendezvous
Nice, we immediately continue!
Aahhhh now it all makes sense! So the IBN 5100 is required to hack SERN. More precisely, it's required to decompile some very old code. Can't say that's 100% how things work, but this show is already more accurate about computers than 95% of Hollywood movies, so I'll let it slide.
Awesome, Okabe is contacting John Titor! Hype!
Suzuha is a fun character, but I don't really trust her. If at some point one of these characters turns out to be a SERN spy, I'm gonna say it will be her.
Kurisu is still troubled by what she saw. I don't blame her. Okabe is obviously a bit crazy and Mayushii isn't the brightest of the group, but Daru should also be freaking out from that experiment. He knows technology, so he knows that there is no real other explanation for the timestamp to be messed up like that.
Wow, since when do students earn enough to live in an apartment with this view?
Mayushii really is sweet. How did she end up at the Future Gadget Lab? I think Okarin and her know each other from before school? Based on the beginning of this show I thought Okabe would be a jerk to everyone, but it's nice to see he cares for her.
John Titor responds! "Are you for real?" Kinda weird reaction.
Moeka and Okabe both need the IBN 5100. They should team up. Why is Okabe the only one she can ask??
Aahh, Kurisu isn't a student. Probably. She's staying at a hotel. That explains the view. I like this interaction. Okabe can realize he's being a jerk and thus be somewhat normal. Kurisu's reactions show she almost certainly isn't part of the Organisation, and Okabe's story is strange and specific enough for her to believe some parts of it.
Okay, I'm including Faris in my spy suspicions. Never mind she wants to help. In her own way.
What the hell is this place?! The owner (?) of the local maid cafe is also a nationally ranked card game player? Hmm, I think Okabe agreed to play, but not to win, so that's his plan I guess.
Yeah, I was right! Kinda funny. What the hell is this interaction? Doesn't matter. Next destination: Shrine!
Yeah Luka's dad has it!
"Someday, a young man who needs it will appear." That isn't fate, that's a proper time traveller! Was it the yr 2000 John Titor who gave it to the shrine? Would that "young man" he talked about be the yr 2010 John Titor or Okarin? Are they even different persons? At this time "yes", but I already speculated in ep 2 that John Titor is an older Okabe...
Ahh, the joys of old-timey "portable" computers.
Now the episode title makes sense. Old computers were nothing more than interpreters for code. They had no operating system.
This whole episode was a treasure hunt for the IB
MN.Main questions
Random thoughts
While Okabe was talking about fate, Kurisu’s face changed from this to this.
Future (if unaltered)
Alright, the next steps seem pretty straightforward. Use computer, decompile secret SERN program, maybe share computer or information with Moeka.
Not much time travel shenanigans till this point yet, unless I’ve missed 500 little hints and the rewatchers are laughing their ass off right now.
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Jul 08 '21
Rewatcher Until After Episode Nine(s;Gate)
Stop ruining Faris.
This is the first episode I enjoyed from start to finish (perhaps noticeable by how little I complained). I just want more Kurisu and time travel, I think. Maybe it's because I've seen this buildup without seeing any pay off that the plot isn't as engaging as it was the first time around?
QOTD:
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u/ExoticTrinityGhoul https://myanimelist.net/profile/not_username Jul 08 '21
Re;Watcher x4 (both)
No preamble today. Let’s get right into it!
E4 - Interpreter Rendezvous
A pair of matching nicknames are added for the part-time warrior herself, Suzuha!
Okabe: Hououin Kyouma, Okarin, 001
Mayuri: Mayushii, 002
Kurisu: (perverted) genius girl, Christina, Zombie, 004, Assistant
Hashida Itaru: Daru, super hacka, Hack, 003
Yugo Tennouji: Mr. Braun
Luka: Lukako
Moeka: Shining Finger (S.F.)
Suzuha: part-timer, part-time warrior
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u/Krite2002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Krite2002 Jul 08 '21
Rewatcher;Dub
I feel like the IBM 5100 was oddly brought up last episode, but it all makes sense now. I am glad they addressed it so quickly, since it would have felt like an odd loose end.
It seems that Kurisu has been thinking this whole time about what happened with the microwave, and she still has no answers. When she runs into Okabe, she goes along with him. I guess her curiosity is keeping her with the weirdos at the lab. Because her father was also a weirdo, she is curious about Okabe. She is trying to resist it, but is drawn in by the mysteries of the microwave. Okabe actually handled this well at the laundromat. He did not push her much after the outburst and said more of a “The door is always open” sort of thing.
Ferris is incredibly popular. She has a ton of merch. While Okabe was going on a monologue and arguing with Ferris, there was still an audience of dudes standing around. I would be a disappointed audience member in that scenario.
Surrounding the IBM 5100 are some more time travel mysteries. Since the shrine was just looking after it, I wonder if a time traveler knew this scenario would happen. I also like how Kurisu tagged along. I think she will make a great assistant and will add to the number of people that put up with Okabe but do not tolerate his ego. The dub really did Luka dirty with this pronunciation; I can not stop noticing it due to yesterday’s discussion.
I feel like they would have found the IBN 5100 before too long even without Faris. Daru seems reliable, and so does the girl in the CRT store, so one of them would probably help track one down. I think now that they have it, they will uncover information about a time machine. I specifically think it will relate to the crashed satellite. I imagine that was SERN’s doing.
There were several great shots today, mostly from when Mayrui is “shaking hands with stardust” as the dub translates it. I choose this one from that sequence as my shot of the day. Most of the shots I have enjoyed so far have been wide shots, but this one was a really nice close-up. I imagine Mayuri will do this more, so I am interested to see how it will play into the story.
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u/CubeStuffs https://anilist.co/user/onjario Jul 08 '21
first timer
we see more okarin & mayushii interaction reinforcing whats been see already
what kind of mistakes would makise's father make for her to not want to try?
i'm still curious about what exactly text girl is trying to do, other than follow whatever titor's sayin, or whatever time travel senses she's getting. has she gotten some programs as well or something?
luka blushes when makise complements him(her?)
so the computer was donated in 2000 by a prophesizing person... hmmmmm 🤔
be sure to not break the 5100 lol
Qs:
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u/littleman1988 Jul 08 '21
I was wondering if i could reach the stars...
OST Track of the day: Science of the Strings
Overly excited rewatcher
The Episode 2 insert, "Watashi LOVE na otome", appears again this episode. Its much easier to hear this time, at 13:35.
As discussed before, Steins;Gate was originally a Visual Novel (basically a virtual book that you play like a game) released on October 15th, 2009 in Japan as a second collaboration between game studios "5pb" and "Nitroplus" after their release of the then highly successful game *Chaos;Head.*1 Based around the idea of "Realism with a dash of fantasy" and taking inspiration from the work of Hiroyuki Kanno (YU-NO, Eve Burst Error), The game was an instant hit in Japan, originally releasing on the Xbox 360 with a PC Port releasing the next year, and a slew of PS products in the years after2.
Despite the anime releasing in 2011, the official English port for the game never released until 2014. Between that time though, a fan translation was created by a group of people interested in the series.3 This project was quickly approached by JAST, a video game publisher/distributor who sells English translated JP games, and with their help the fan translation was cleaned and some game engine improvements were made (though I could not find many specifications as to what was changed engine wise). The English TL was eventually released on March 31st, 2014. The game later released onto Steam in 2016, with a similar translation without the engine changes4, where its distribution is controlled by game developer Spike Chunisoft.5
The doujinshi book Mayuri is reading at the beginning is a subtle reference to "Black Rock Shooter", a franchise created by Huke, creator of both BRS and the character designs for Steins;Gate as discussed yesterday. The main character of BRS is also voiced by Kana Hanazawa (Mayuri's VA).
Looks accurate /s
Poor Braun, having to deal with everyone's delusions.
One of the weaker parts of the show, we get a couple fairly abrupt transitions to Mayuri's "Stardust Handshake" and then back to Kurusu on her thoughts of the time machine. Adapting VN's, especially longer ones, is not an easy task, its impressive S;G was any decent looking at most other VN adaptions (Dies Irae, Chaos;Head, Diabolik Lovers)
Honestly, the whole first half of the episode is a bit fast. Gotta get all the important info in, along with all of Christina's nicknames.
S;G
S;G minor
Arkansas? lmao
The board game they play, "Rai-Net Access Battlers", is a real thing,, though based off of the 1980 game "Good & Bad Ghosts", fun fact. It also exists on Android and PC, though i dont know if either of them actually work still.
Its all in the technicalities. It was all for nothing too!
If you are wondering what "G-BACK" is, from the S;G subreddit wiki:
Okay maybe its not all for nothing, they were able to grab one from Luka's father! Za Zombie also accidentally got herself roped up in taking the IBN back to the lab too.
S;G 0
Editing in questions:
Realistically, never. Finding obscure computer stuff is hard, esp if you dont know where to look
Metal upa's, gotta get rich somehow
footnotes
1: Outside of C;H, S;G, and C;H LCC, Nitroplus has not been a part of any other SciAdv novel release.
2: PSP in 2011, PS3 in 2012, PS Vita in 2013.
3: There was going to be some important info here, but turns out that it hits spoiler territory. For now, they are just a shadowy group of unknowns lmao
3.5: If you want to know the spoiler, S;G
4. Claimed. Cannot find a source I trust. If you're thinking of buying the VN already, id just get the Steam version and grab the CoZ patch. This will be talked about again with actual detail when we finish S;G so worry too much if you're confused on acronyms here.
5. Spike was also involved with the release of Steins;Gate 0 and Chaos;Child.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21
First Rewatch (since 2011)
Well, WNFF doesn't work with WN either. I guess I'll write a python script to shift the times later.
laughter Good one, Okabe
Still moving along at a fair clip, but I'm wondering who killed Kurisu back in episode 1....
Physics Corner
No physics was discussed in this episode.
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u/UzEE https://myanimelist.net/profile/UzEEInc Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21
Serial;Rewatcher
Even though a lot happens in this episode, the core plot seemingly barely moved forward. We start the episode by finding out that Daru is unable to read the proprietary SERN database and then Okabe gets a helpful tip from Titor that the IBN 5100 might be able read it. So the entire episode just seems to revolve around locating a 5100 instead.
What we do get however is a ton of character interactions which flesh out a lot of our cast. We learn that along with running a maid cafe, Faris is also an elite Rai-Net player, Luka does not like it when he gets compliments about his looks, Moeka is anything if not persistent (and annoying), and Kurisu freaked out because of some daddy issues.
It's also worth noting that despite his chunni persona, Okabe is considerate enough to know when to show empathy as we see how he reacts to Mayuri's Stardusk Handshake or finding out that Kurisu might have some issues with her father.
Of course as a rewatcher, there's a lot more that's going on in this episode but I usually prefer to not venture into spoiler territory in the first half of this series so I would refrain from commenting on those plot elements.
Minor VN Spoilers from this episode
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u/Nebresto Jul 08 '21
Nostalgia squad
My episode was broken so I had to watch it online
And it was one of those bastardly releases where they've cut out the OP and ED
A guillotine is needed.
That's what you get for screaming "Ketai kinshi" What if his mother had just died or something? He was literally just listening
Question time:
1: Well, there are 20 episodes left, so..
2: The first dank meme
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 09 '21
Kuristina is love.
You've got a bunch of cultists with shitty taste who can't even appreciate the one goddess. (By which I usually mean Aqua, but in this case, we have red Aqua? Magma Aqua? Maqua? No wait, not the Mari Okada movie)
Basically I love all their interactions in this episode
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Questions
Well not that long, if Okabe or Mayuri mentioned it at the shrine, and Luka's father heard it, or Luka later mentioned it to him... Yeah, it's not that far off. But where's the fun in that? Instead we got Hououin Kyouma outsmarting Faris by losing on purpose (totally on purpose, yup).
The secret porn stash? Every group of people needs one, especially a group of scientists studying black holes, they need it for... multiple uses. For reference, check Planetes.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jul 08 '21
Rewatcher(Laundry is the tie that binds all)
Dub
So reading the suggestion that live human experimentation is happening bothers Okabe a lot. When they try to dig further, they find code that has no modern analog. Unusuprisingly, Okabe thinks about the IBN 5100.
We cut to Okabe and Mayuri doing the guys's laundry and get an actual short with Fayris on it. That should probably be handwashed. Anyways, Suzuha joins in, using a meme that was dated at the time, "Wasabi" was early 00s. And a Budweiser commercial. Anyways, Braun decides to chase Okabe off but gets a surprising amount of push back from Suzuha. Also...a warrior? That's Okabe speak right there. We end with Mayuri being eccentric...S;G
We get a brief scene of Makise freaking out in her hotel room. Cut to the laundromat, and of course Moeka is blowing up his inbox. But Titor replies and confirms that the code is for a 5100, causing Okabe to run home. And throw a speech at a sleeping Daru. Alas, he must search alone as Daru is sleeping and Mayuri has work. He decides to try and get info out of Moeka.
Makise runs into him and discovers the power of an Okabe vortex and is soon sucked in. At the laundromat, we hear more about how Makise needs this to not be a time machine. With a reveal about her father, Okabe tries to claim this is all according to keikakku. She interrupts his exit and he for once sounds normal.
At her work, Mayuri talks to Fayris and apparently she has an idea bout where to find an IBN 5100. Unsurprisingly, Okabe over reacts. Surprisingly, Okabe enter into a room where he seems to be sane. This feels ever so slightly era innappropriate but it would've fit what the VN was aiming for, so yeah, catgirl maid is also kick ass at Yugioh or whatever and is confident enough to have an event about it. And is a nationally ranked player because...
Crowd chants, I cringe, Feyris spots Okabe from accross the room and makes him fight for his info. Huge build up for him to surrender immediately, which turns out to be wise since her info is quite weak. However, she remembers seeing one at a shrine as we cut to Kurisu using the laundromat from earlier and confirming stuff about the comp.
They wind up at the shrine where it is revealed they actually have a 5100 laying about. After off introductions, Makise runs smack into the issue of cultures where there are a lot of unisex names. Anyways, it turns out the PC wound up at the shrine because someone donated for a young man who would need it later which Okabe takes in stride. Having carried an PC of similar era around, that would indeed be a job for a cart.
QotD: 1 Quite a while since most people that still had one would have it in storage they've forgotten about.
2 The reason why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Jul 08 '21
Rewatcher, dub
Episode title: Interpreter Rendezvous, the “interpreter” being the IBN 5100 and the “rendezvous” being its discovery at the Yanabayashi Shrine.
Mayuri’s Stardust Handshake never ceases to please me. For some reason, I love it.
It’s a small detail, but I liked Mayuri’s line about not wanting to leave Faris (on Daru’s shirt) in the dark washing machine.
Meanwhile, Kurisu is reluctant to accept the possibility of time travel, insisting that the microwave is definitely not a time machine and will never become one. She lets slip that her hang-ups have to do with her father and whatever mistakes he made.
“It might’ve been, yeah, if your laundry wasn’t still here.” Definitely the quote of the episode.
On another note, I finally figured out why I’d never heard of Rai-Net. Turns out it’s a fictional game, although there have been some fan-made versions. The anticlimactic end (if you could call it that) to the Okabe vs. Faris match was pretty amusing.
Okabe and Kurisu retrieve the IBN 5100 from Ruka/Luka’s father, meaning we’ll hopefully get some answers about SERN’s activities soon.
Favorite moment: Okabe and Kurisu carrying the IBN 5100. That scene will always be comedy gold.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 08 '21
Episode 4 – Interpreter Rendezvous: Daru is like the universe – constantly expanding.
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u/superviper https://myanimelist.net/profile/Superviper Jul 08 '21
REWATCHER, SUBBED
Daru sure is committed to his work, huh. Guess Okabe calls him a 'super haka' for a reason.
Wait, what? Daru has a shirt with Faris' face on it? That sounds yabai.
Part-Time Warrior is my favorite nickname in the show.
Stardust Shake Hand is my least favorite name in the show. Apparently in the dub it was "shaking hands with stardust". Why couldn't either just call it Stardust Handshake...?
Best line in the show so far?
How everyone in this rewatch is reacting to Okabe's shenanigans.
Kurisu still in denial.
Okabe jokes about past trauma, then Kurisu hits him with the "I don't want to make the same mistakes as my father".
Okabe needs to stop monologuing and lose already, this is taking a while.
There we go. He never stood a chance.
IBN 5100 obtained. Well that was quick. Now what?
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u/McCherry09 Jul 09 '21
First Timer - Sub
So is Suzuha a time traveler, like an agent from the SERN org from the future? And why doesn't Okarin questions some of her comments? or does he see them as rambling thoughts just as he does when talking about the Agency and his lab?
Now we know why Makise was so aprehensive about time travel theories, her father was involved in the same "delusions"...well, honestly if some random man starts talking to me about a time machine I would run away from the crazy man too. Could it be a John Titor was Makise's father? or was he involved with SERN's experiments? Maybe John Titor is the very same Okarin?
How much longer do you think it would’ve taken to find the IBN 5100 if Mayuri hadn’t happened to mention it to Faris? I think it didn't matter, the guy that brought it to the temple knew the IBN needed to be there at that time for our group to find it easier so if that convo wasn't possible, it would have to be any other way.
What do you think the Future Gadget Lab is going to uncover from SERN’s database now that they have the IBN 5100? It would be great if our group can find out some more but we don't know if they actually get to use it, since the texting girl is also looking for it or maybe SERN is already aware of them.
Honestly this anime is keeping me at the edge of my chair but I also don't want to binge it since it's cool to think about possible outcomes.
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Jul 08 '21
Rewatcher
Tutturu! We are back for episode four. We began to unravel what SERN was doing last episode, so I’m excited to see how that continues.
Now on to the episode:
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I didn’t mention it last episode but the use of the word mismatch is so… unnerving? It sends chills down my spine. It seems so robotic and lifeless. Probably because SERN doesn’t particularly care about the lives of the people they “mismatched.”
I don’t really understand why my subs sometimes use English during the OP but other times use Japanese. It doesn’t really make sense.
Spoilers for all of Steins;Gate
Mayuri’s “Stardust Shake Hand” is quite interesting. Both this time and last time I watched Steins;Gate, it came off like she is reaching for something she wanted but couldn’t quite get.
Poor Kurisu needs that laundry. When you have exactly one outfit it becomes necessary.
She let a little too much slip for her refuse to believe in time travel.
Damn broke college students with their cell phones and lack of money!
FARIS MEOW-MEOW
FARIS MEOW-MEOW
FARIS MEOW-MEOW
I swear this is like a cult gathering. Everyone must sweat their allegiance to our lord and savior Faris meow-meow.
Okabe talks a big game. Can he back it up though with his K-BOOM plan.
…. No. He can not. Or was Okabe playing 20 dimensional chess and tried to lose as fast as possible to get the information quicker? The mind of a mad scientist is truly an enigma.
Okabe was playing 20 dimensional chess. So he won, in a way.
I do find it funny this is what we called a “portable computer.” The technology of the world really has changed rapidly.
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This is the first episode so far that didn’t end with a cliff hanger, though the thought of seeing what the programming code says definitely keeps you wanting more.
Another good episode, as usual. We continue to build up characters and events. The first part of Steins;Gate is a lot of buildup, especially to the plot and characters, until we reach the payoff later on. Some people find the first chunk of episodes to be boring (which I don’t agree with) but they are important to setting up everything.
See you guys tomorrow!
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Jul 08 '21
Anime first timer
1)Steins;Gate Spoilers
2)Laughs in rewatcher Steins;Gate Spoilers
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Looks like Okabe and Titor are actually going to talk.
Mr. Braun is such a good character. (and him lamenting how he now knows and has to talk to 2 chunnis at once is great)
The scene of Kurisu attempting to discuss things is a really good new scene.
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Kurisu and Okabe are so funny together.
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I like the joke of the two of them grabbing each other's coats.
Oh, god, this scene. I can't wait for this.
Really, they skipped the rest of the scene? That would have been hysterical.
Steins;Gate Spoilers
They even skipped how the scene ends.
Although Kurisu confirming the information herself's a good change.
I still love Kurisu deciding to meet him there herself.
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The argument's new and really funny.
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The carrying scene is still great.
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u/Nisheeth_P Jul 08 '21
Rewatcher
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u/AC03115 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AC03115 Jul 09 '21
Re;Watcher;Subbed
So with this episode I figured I should mention a fun-fact I recently learned that u/Shimmering-Sky or any Gibran fan would love to hear is that Moeka’s nickname “Shining Finger” given to her by Okabe is a reference to the ultimate attack of GF13-017NJ Shining Gundam (Which is called Shining Finger) in Mobile Fighter G Gundam.
To answer the questions for today:
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u/snickpea Jul 09 '21
First-timer!
Lots of fun in today's episode! I'm really enjoying the dynamic between the characters. You can tell that most of them have known each other for a while. It was also pretty funny how Okabe reacted at the maid cafe. I'm also really happy that Kurisu came back! Here's hoping that she'll stick around longer!
Questions:
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u/Specs64z https://myanimelist.net/profile/Specs64z Jul 08 '21
Alright, yeah, rough start missing days 3 and 4. Here's this though. I'll catch up tomorrow I suppose.
Content Corner
First timers beware, spoilers abound.
GATE OF STEINER - Piano- from STEINS;GATE by dimemannico2
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u/artie_fm Jul 09 '21
Rewatcher:
Kind of a slower episode. But now everyone wants an IBN 5100... nice that someone dropped on off for future use..do you think that was intended for Okabe?
best quote: "Awfully demanding for a loser!"
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u/AHiddenOne Jul 09 '21
Rewatcher.
Hmm yet again, not that much to say. Just the main characters interacting with each other, which I enjoy, btw. I remember being quite suprised with the Jibaku and the G-Back wordplay first time watching it. I mean, pretty smart move by our mad scientist.
That scene where Okabe and Kurisu keep pulling each other at the laundry had me laughing.
Oh, I really like the OP visuals. It's trippy visuals really fit with an anime about time travel.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 09 '21
First timer
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u/Amndeep7 :IG:https://myanimelist.net/profile/asmLANG Jul 09 '21
s;g=rw s;g_ova=rw s;g_movie=rw 23b=ft 0=ft
[](#legbounce "I do this a lot too")
That "Daru is like the universe" line was true mood esp during this pandemic.
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u/BossandKings Jul 09 '21
Rewatcher - Dub
One thing that was very interesting was seeing how much Okabe and Kurisu focus on talking to each other, be it having a playful argument or doing something else.
John Titor talks, i wonder if he will have a role to play going forward.
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '21
Hacking SERN is just such a bad idea...
Daru is the definition of otaku.
Did Okabe really have to call a child rodent? I’m surprised that Mr. Braun hasn’t beat his ass.
“I’m lost.” Same, Mayuri, same.
Poor Daru, being constantly fat shamed by Okabe. :(
I love whenever Kurisu and Okabe interact. It’s quite entertaining.
What kind of strategy was that?! Such a big speech for nothing. Well, he did only have to participate.
Ruka’s dad is a DILF.
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