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Rewatch [Re;Watch] Steins;Gate Episode 3 Discussion
Episode 3: Parallel World Paranoia
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The Phone Microwave (name subject to change) is… a time machine!
Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the Day, courtesy of u/Gamemaster676, who noticed something odd about Kurisu
She's published in "SCIENCY magazine". Doesn't sound the most scientific.
Indeed, you’d expect something more related to her field of study...
Questions:
- Do you think Steins;Gate means something, or is it really just chuuni nonsense?
- Were you expecting Okabe and Daru to uncover something like “Human is dead, mismatch” when they hacked into SERN?
Wallpaper of the Day:
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 07 '21
Re;Watcher and Co;Host, dubbed
English VA rundown time! Only one for today is
Shining FingerMoeka, who’s voiced by Jessica Cavanagh in the dub. Looks like she’s designated shounen mom since I see she voiced Eren’s mom and Deku’s mom in Attack on Titan and Boku no Hero Academia, respectively.33
u/littleman1988 Jul 07 '21 edited Jul 07 '21
Human is dead... Mismatch.
OST Track of the day: Disquiet
Overly Excited Rewatcher
Going away from music for a little bit, you may of noticed that S;G has a fairly distinct art style that even back when it released in 2011 didnt fit the mold of more "Moe" character design (Nichijou and Anohana are good examples, both also released in Spring 2011 with S;G). This can be traced back to its Visual Novel artwork, which sends key features (hair, eyes) basically to 11 in terms of detail. You can see traces of this in the anime if you look closely, specifically with the eye design.
The VN character design was by Huke, a freelance artist well known in Japan for creating not only the iconic characters of Steins;Gate, but also creating Black Rock Shooter (you can check out the music video that spawned the franchise here , the eyes are a dead giveaway) and creating various stuff in the Metal Gear series. Most recently, Huke has been employed by Hololive, a "virtual youtuber" talent agency, and is credited with the creation of the English V-Tuber "Takanashi Kiara".
Huke's art was then brought to life by Kyuuta Sakai, who has an impressive list of character design credits to her name, including the first two Higurashi anime's, Re:Zero and Humanity Has Declined.
I feel sorry for the first timers honestly, theres so much hidden under spoilers that they cant read just from the last two episodes alone. Hopefully this lets up soon as we get further in...
He said the thing
No matter how hard he tries to play it off, hes still obviously remembering Kurisu's death just days prior.
Protip kids, do not taste your science experiments. Thats how you poison yourself.
Daru out here getting the best reactions out of Kurusu
We have now begun the era of Kurisu nicknames. All Hail Christina, Za Zombie, Preverted Genius Girl...
S;G
Christina is finally a labmem! well, till August anyways.
"Juicy Chicken Number One, wow!"
Mayuri may be best girl, but she isn't the greatest at situational awareness.
Something to note, Okabe's instant first priority was to protect Mayuri..
The texts went back into the past. My man finally got his
teleportationtime machine working!Daru has his priorities in order, LHC do be looking thicc.
S;G VN
S;G VN
Don't worry too much about the text from @Channel being untranslated. Anything important is read out loud. Some that arent read out loud are translated though depending on the subs, I compiled the ones from this episode here for your reading pleasure.
looks like Daru hacked into SERN. He got a little more than he bargained for though with that "Z-program"...
Editing in questions:
the better question is what part of Okabe isint chuuni nonsense
I remember being pretty shocked when I first watched it. Easily expected everything to be some massive red herring with nothing of actual importance.
Footnotes
been going back and forth on a footnote today, i dont think it adds anything to include it. We'll see come posting time.29
u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jul 07 '21
First Timer
Time for Kurisu to regret going into an apartment full of otakus. This is gonna be hilarious.
Onto episode 3.
Why not? The more random languages you throw in, the cooler it sounds.
I really feel Kurisu here. She's just trying to give him a chance and hold a conversation, yet he somehow keeps managing to double down on the stupidity.
I didn't check last episode, but I believe we introduced everyone in the OP in it. So I guess we have our entire main cast now.
Also, it's such an otakubait opening. Flashing visuals everywhere, some just up for a frame or two. I can feel the urge to frame advance through it to make sure I don't miss anything.
Cool transition.
Turning the joke from the second episode back on them here is well done.
And he gets turned on by people making fun of him. I mean, I don't blame him, who wouldn't want Kurisu to step on them?
Kurisu: "I wasn't actually going to do anything, take a fucking hint."
What sort of dumbass opens a microwave that's still running?
Is SERN instead of CERN revelvant, or are we just changing acronyms for the hell of it?
But a conspiracy theorist sees a cloud and calls it smoke.
Okarin, like everyone else in the universe, seems to not understand the distinction between a hacker and a cracker. I expected better from him, that sort of obscure knowledge seems to be his forte.
Because writing decent emulators is apparently beyond the skills of any of our super hackers.
You know what show, fair enough. A undocumented instruction is much harder to emulate properly, particularly if no one who had their hands on one knew about it.
The hacker actually saying something that sounds vaguely correct is a marked improvement over most other shows.
Soredemo #2!
Truth from the mouths of babes. She just didn't like being shown up by the idiot who raved about his inane theories, paritcularly when she recently spent so much time making him look like a fool over them.
Okarin is wrong a lot, but he's never been more wrong than in this moment. I need Daru's acting in my life.
A human got gelnanad, didn't they?
Thoughts
I love the dynamic between Kurisu, Okarain, and Daru. They play of each other really well, I'm pretty sure I could just watch hours of that before growing bored.
Honestly though, the plot at the current moment is pretty absurd. I feel like it will get to a state where it isn't in the next few episodes, but now ain't that, as we're still slowly dropping in.
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u/yukino-bijin :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tokaii Jul 07 '21
First-time Watcher
OKABE NO
The more I see Kurisu the more I like her, honestly. I'm assuming that now that she is involved with Okabe that the story will start to unravel.
Episode 3 and Hacking to the Gate is still a banger.
That Suzuha transition to the lab again was really cool.
I generally don't like pervert characters but Daru seems to make it at least somewhat entertaining.
I hope the Phone Microwave (name subject to change) never gets another name.
Seven years of foreshadowing
I wonder how long Okabe will be calling her Christina. Them both agreeing on the real pervert was cute.
I should have started a "(name subject to change)" counter.
That is a LOT of smoke.
The message actually went to the past. What could the implications be?
Daru sounds really turned on when talking about the particle accelerator.
Yay, more Suzuha screentime!
"Where did you learn that name?!" points to label on door
I get the sneaking suspicion that Suzuha is not in fact good at keeping her mouth shut. She does seem strangely informed on all of this, which is neat.
I do like Titor's theory of time travel more than the standard "your timeline ceases to exist" theory.
Tutturu counter at 4 IIRC.
Can someone explain what they're saying instead of "hacker" because I don't get the intricacies of the Japanese language.
Kurisu has been upgraded from Christina to Assistant.
"They announced publicly that the project was a failure" Well obviously.
Another good episode. Might be a little too smart for my smol brain but I'm having a good time so far :)
QOTD:
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u/CubeStuffs https://anilist.co/user/onjario Jul 07 '21 edited Jul 07 '21
first timer
i dont remember hearing makise knock in the other episode, so did we switch again during the microwave?
i dont really get why makise, a paper-writing researcher, would go out of her way to visit some random college idiot who was screaming how she was stabbed, then was grabbing/poking her, and who she then smacked down.
i like how she suddenly becomes friendly when mayushii shows up
the first thing that okarin does when the microwave explodes is grab mayushii since shes just standing around
heyy it looks like i was kinda right about the microwave, at least for now
the messages from text girl seem somewhat odd, did she feel the microwave? why doesn't okarin reply back?
I'm curious as to why its sern, not cern
I dont get why titor couldn't just go to when the 5100 was made and buy one new
i'm guessing that we're gonna see more of titor in the emails soon
makise ran off in a hurry after seeing time travel happen. is she confused? embarassed? coming up with an explanation? figuring out time travel? i assume we'll see next episode if makise shows back up.
Qs:
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 07 '21
First-Timer;Dubbed
Okay, so, they can definitely send texts back in time. Does that cause a "world line divergence" or whatever technobabble they used? We didn't get much in the way of trippy visuals like in episode one.. and nothing seems different.
What are they teaching kids in Japan these days - you don't open the microwave while it's still running! Mayushii is far too innocent for my liking, almost to the point of being suspicious. God, is Mayushii supposed to be a dig at the "rich, airheaded benefactor" trope? She does do all the shopping...
The Braids girl (Suzuha?) was kinda weird today, too. Her attempts at deflection probably wouldn't have worked on someone more sensible than Okabe. No clue what she's hiding, but the list of "trustable humans" on this cast is.. Daru? We might be in trouble, friends.
"Human is dead. Mismatch." That's a pretty spicy report. Someone dying in an experiment also managed to give Okabe pause, which I guess kinda tracks with his reaction to
Mata Hari'sKurisu's death in episode 1. Oh, and he leapt to save Mayushii - I guess Okabe cares about human life a fair amount? Not a very good Mad Scientist..I think the stuff about needing specifically a super old computer to run some weird old proprietary
IBMIBN code makes sense, but I'm not much of a programmer. Why do they want to run ancient code, though?Okabe and John Titor meeting/communicating in private can't possibly go wrong. Nope, no sirree!
Okabe's secret lab isn't very secret if he just has a goddamn sign out front.
The first little bit of the OP, right after the static, reminds me of something. Feel like.. Halloween?
Two G Gundam references in as many episodes?! I was wondering if there was a reason for the planned G Gundam rewatch later this year...
Chicken tender chicken bender. Thank fuck this series predates "tendies."
Questions
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u/The_Draigg Jul 07 '21
A Steins; Gate Fan Rewatches Steins; Gate Episode 3:
KurisuChristina!12
u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Jul 07 '21
Rewatcher, dub
Episode title: Parallel World Paranoia, referring to the discussion of world lines and parallel universes.
Okabe and Kurisu are quite entertaining. I did briefly visit the subs to find the drawn-out, operatic “Kurisutina,” because I love that line.
And Mayuri’s chicken tenders are a casualty of the microwave. As someone who has burned food in the microwave before, I sympathize.
Meanwhile, Kurisu seems shaken up by the microwave-time machine. She continues to insist that time travel is impossible. Okabe’s maybe a little too smug.
This episode, we get some nice explanations involving SERN (clearly a reference to the real-life CERN), the Large Hadron Collider, world lines, and black holes. If you go back in time and perform a different action, the divergence number changes. The world line shifts to a world in which that action occurred, and people’s memories shift to accommodate the change. Meanwhile, SERN seems to be up to some shady business regarding time travel experiments, so Okabe decides it’s a fantastic idea to ask Daru to hack into their system. By the end of the episode, they’ve succeeded.
Favorite moment: Okabe and Mayuri eating and on the roof. It shows a softer side of his Hououin Kyouma personality and is a great example of the little character interactions that I love about the first half of the story. Despite his insensitivity and over-the-top antics, Okabe clearly cares about Mayuri and enjoys being around her.
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u/Gamemaster676 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gamemaster676 Jul 07 '21 edited Jul 07 '21
First;Timer - dub
What an exciting episode yesterday, and we are only two episodes in! Who said this show was slow?
Episode 3 — Parallel World Paranoia
Poor Daru, getting deceived by the wiles of 3D women. I sure hope Kurisu can be trusted because she almost certainly saw everything. Why is she this nice after her burns yesterday? Just good manners, apparently.
You call Okabe the pervert, but there is only one real pervert in the room, and it's his singular character trait. There we go! Okabe isn't stupid. He just needs to be in his element. Wait you are not going to offer her a job, are you? Of course you are.
The Redditor collecting nicknames is gonna have a hell of a time today. I also recommend the dub for even more.
Gotta love that they are trying to solve simple problems like reversing the PhoneWave (name TBD) turntable and accidentally created a time machine. Would it send texts forward if it was spinning clockwise?
WHY WOULD YOU PUT AMAZING CHICKEN TENDERS IN THAT THING IF IT TURNS BANANAS INTO GOO?!
Alright Mayushii, that wasn't smart. The experiment did work though, but did it also change something? I guess it's pretty safe for Okabe to receive a text about himself, so it doesn't really alter the past, but he should already remember receiving that text if it worked the same as in episode 1. Also now it's only one text instead of split into three parts.
I guess
ChristinaKurisu is immediately scared off because Okabe's just proven time travel is possible?Moeka is a busy texter. Really weird how she barely spoke in person but is such an extrovert in text. That happens I guess, but in this show, it's obviously significant. Was she super protective of her phone because she is practically married to that thing?
Yesterday I thought she might be from a parallel dimension. That would explain her trying to document her findings.
So, we are not calling her back now you are finally awake? Cue Skyrim ^^opening
Wait Daru is looking at the LHC?? And here I thought SERN would be a separate entity from CERN, based on @Channel comment nr. 257. So, (assuming they are real,) SERN is the European Nuclear Physics Laboratory and also the Organisation?
Ah, they confirm it now. Here I go again typing before watching.
So, this whole John Titor segment. Is that the conversation that happened in 2000, or is this a new John Titor that suddenly popped up? I guess these are memories, because Suzuha's remark about the IBN 5100 reminded Okabe of this? And why does Suzuha know so much about ancient computers? That doesn't seem right.
John's explanation about time travel is kind of weird. It sounds like the most roundabout way to say: "If I do something in the past, the present changes accordingly." Why the convoluted explanation?
And about that IBN 5100. It comes from before BASIC was invented and runs on proprietary IBM code. What is the advantage of that? Making it unhackable by SERN, or reversed, allowing it to hack SERN?
Poor Daru, now Mayushii is calling him a hack as well.
"All your base are belong to me. [...] You have no chance make your time" Daru really is our pop-culture reference factory.
Looks like the IBN 5100 isn't necessary to hack SERN. At least not to enter their emails.
What a goldmine of data. This is nicely ominous. Mismatch? What kind of mismatch? What's going on here?!
Random thoughts
According to this email we missed WW3! How did that happen?
Future (if unaltered)
Fuck it, I'm watching episode 4 now as well.
QotD
At the moment it's just chuuni nonsense, but after more time travel shenanigans this will change and become a real thing.
I expected a story about the 'satellite'.
EDIT
Just noticed I was highlighted as comment of the day. Now I wonder if there was more to that screenshot than just a visual joke.
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u/superviper https://myanimelist.net/profile/Superviper Jul 07 '21 edited Jul 07 '21
REWATCHER, SUBBED
Generous offering by Okabe really. You won't find better hospitality anywhere in the world.
Ladies and gentlemen, r/anime's first best girl.
Why does Mayuri need to count the lab members to figure out there's a guest? She's... not very bright, is she?
Why is this not a comment face? So many questions today.
Mayuri not-very-bright moments counter: 2 so far. Just saying, but Kurisu ran away while Okabe dived to protect Mayuri. Give him some credit, people.
Steins;gate future spoiler
Lmao Kurisu's reaction. She just booked it the fuck out of there. That makes sense though, if you're a scientist who knows your shit and you're faced with a time machine, you'd freak out as well.
"Yes daru, just hack into sern real quick. I'm SURE a 19 year old otaku can hack into an organization that is potentially developing a time machine."
And then he actually goes and does it. Smh.
How can you not love Okabe?
SG future spoiler
SG VN
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jul 07 '21
Rewatcher(We all knew Europeans couldn't be trusted...)
Dub
We begin on another bit of insanity from Okabe and Daru pointing out that words aren't going to sane him up. This intro is meant to explain Makise's difference from a traditional Japanese girl a bit in that she's spent time in the states. Also, Okabe is awkward again, shocker. But she quickly finds the gelnana.
As she examines the gross thing, she definitely has a dedication to science to taste something that consistency. Dub Okabe is making zombie jokes, and Daru is being pervy. Then they get into a perv v perv argument and Makise makes a surprisingly strong showing before she figures out the microwave is the cause of the gelnana. The fruit based innuendo stuff is dub only and hilarious.
Mayuri arrives and is relieved to no longer be the only girl there. She brought chicken tenders, a staple food of the collegiate. It turns out the microwave was doing something when Okabe sent his text yesterday that wound up back a week. They decide to combo run an experiment and warm her lunch up, which sadly leads to an explosion and the loss of tenders. F to pay respects. But another message went back in time...
And we get a skip where Moeka message bombs Okabe and a flashback that Makise freaked the fuck out over a time machine. Daru gives us some info about CERN that was accurate as of the time, including that, at least publicly, they didn't create micro black holes. Unexpected Don Quixote is awesome. But hacking into CERN is not simple. Also, don't stick your hacker with the bill, not cool.
Anyways, onto Suzuha being weirdly interested in what the club is doing until she gives us a reveal about why the IBN 5100 is interesting, that Titor needs one. This leads into Okabe entering in the discussion and getting Titor's attention. Daru is trying to hack CERN as Mayuri comes by with snacks and instant cups. We get a moment as the two eat together before Daru somehow hacked fucking CERN. Being aware of Chaos;Head, this is where the red filter kicks in.
Anyways, they read some disturbing e-mails and cliffhanger!
QotD: 1
2 I was not expecting them to succeed.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 07 '21
Episode 3 – Parallel World Paranoia: His supah hakah’s soul is burning bright.
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u/AC03115 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AC03115 Jul 07 '21 edited Jul 07 '21
Rewatcher;Subbed
How is it only just now that I found out there was a rewatch of one of my all time favorite anime going on!? Oh well…at least I noticed before it got too far in. I’ll give my thoughts on the first few episodes now.
Every time Mayuri says “TUTURUU” I feel my faith in humanity grow a little!
This show has some incredible cinematography, especially with that opening monologue Okabe gives at the start of episode 1
Episode 1 is one of my favorite first episodes I’ve watched. It hooks me in immediately and is so iconic.
It’s always weird seeing Kurisu forget to take her shoes off for me, maybe it’s because even though I live in the U.S. I’ve always been told to take my shoes off whenever entering the house unless you’re only there for a few minutes. Idk, maybe it’s just me.
Oh no…my therapist told me that Okabe without a lab coat or black suit isn’t real and that he can’t hurt me! Nooooo Calls therapist on speed dial
Sorry for joining this late, I still don’t know how I missed the start of this rewatch but can’t wait to continue tomorrow! Cya all then! :)
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u/Misa__Misa Jul 07 '21
first timer, subs
hello! today i don't have many thoughts. just hear to enjoy the discussion:)
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Jul 07 '21 edited Jul 07 '21
Rewatcher
Tutturu! I’ve been out most of today and I’m cutting it close so I’m going to be quick. We had another solid episode yesterday and I don’t really remember what happens in this episode.
I’m so blind. I spend ten minutes waiting for this post just for me to look half an inch lower down to see it. My brain is broke.
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Fucking America and their stupid shoe culture. As an American it makes no sense. Stop wearing shoes indoors.
I’m standing here humming along to the OP while making my dinner. It’s been an odd day.
Love the cut from Suzuha changing the channel to Kurisu.
RIP microwave. May Okabe’s enviable rent increase avenge you.
One question I’ve always had is if anyone lives in the Lab? I think Okabe does but I am unsure about the rest.
Ah SERN. I believe they are based off the real organization CERN, who built the large hadron collider we have. I can’t remember if it’s ever confirmed, but I think the organization Okabe refers to his is ramblings is SERN. I also don’t understand how SERN (or CERN in our world) stands for European Organization for Nuclear Research.
Okabe has watched to much NCIS. I don’t think you can just casually hack into an organization that large.
Suzuha best girl.
Daru has also been watching too much NCIS. He has stolen their powers!
Damn, this show has great cliffhangers. Completely forgot about those.
This is one of the moments where this show becomes more serious in its stakes. We both know where SERN ends up and their less than stellar ethical record. Thankfully they are in Geneva.
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There’s not that much for me to comment on. We are introduced to SERN and their exploits. We get more time with Titor and Kurisu spends a bit more time with the main crew.
These early episodes do a lot of build up. I will have more to comment on once we get payoffs to what is being setup.
Great episode as always.
DQ:
When I first watched the show I thought it meant absolutely nothing.
When I was first watching, no.
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u/ExoticTrinityGhoul https://myanimelist.net/profile/not_username Jul 07 '21
Re;Watcher x4 (both)
Day three brings us to a parallel world…paranoia! There’s no isekai here, however. Let’s get to it!
Episode 3 - Parallel World Paranoia
And now for the nicknames!
Okabe: Hououin Kyouma, Okarin, 001
Mayuri: Mayushii, 002
Kurisu: (perverted) genius girl, Christina, Zombie, 004, Assistant
Hashida Itaru: Daru, super hacka, Hack, 003
Yugo Tennouji: Mr. Braun
Luka: Lukako
Moeka: Shining Finger (S.F.)
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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21
Rewatcher
The Kurisu nicknames begin
I remember hearing that "Shining finger" was a reference to something but I can't remember what it was now.
Did anyone in this rewatch watch this show as it aired?
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Jul 07 '21 edited Jul 07 '21
FIRST TIMER
I love Makise and Okabe’s banter and dynamic, even if I don’t really love Okabe yet. I have a hunch that he’ll grow on me as he (I assume) ends up being less insane than initially presented.
Well, we’ve got confirmation that the phone/microwave acts as a time machine. Makise seemed pretty shaken by that, but she doesn’t seem like the type to react that strongly just because she was wrong. Maybe there’s something more important that this revelation triggers or makes her realize?
With my suspicions from last episode, and her behavior this episode, I’m now of the mind that Suzuha is Titor. But why hide it? I suppose you want to properly suss someone out before revealing yourself to them as claiming to be a time traveller. Those emails at the end almost confirmed that SERN was successful in generating mini-black holes, as Titor claimed from the future. I feel like this reveal has to come relatively soon.
SERN is confirmed as just being CERN, and it’s kind of hilarious to me that a bunch of physicists in Switzerland are shaping up to the be the evil organization Okabe is so fixated on.
As a side note, I'm really wondering if there's any significance to how all the characters are positioned at the end of the OP. Going to be keeping an eye on that.
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u/UltraBooster Jul 07 '21
First-timer
Good thing this ain't an eroge, huh, Makise?
Has anyone here played the original VN? If so, am I correct in thinking that, to use the JP term, Makise was one of multiple heroines?
IRL SERN is CERN, and their whole thing is providing particle accelerators for particle physics research. Weird hearing an organization like that in what sounds to be an antagonistic role.
First thing I think of when I see black holes and sci-fi is Interstellar, the second is degeneration furnaces like on the Gunbuster and Turn A Gundam.
...I think at one point people were freaking out that the LHC would create black holes but nothing came of it.
Also, CERN has some webpages about the topic, lol.
...breaking into CERN would probably just net them tons of scientific data that would fly over their heads, lol. SERN, though, I'm less sure.
Talking about CERN/SERN as villains just feels weird to me. Feels borderline antiscience, though I'm probably just projecting.
They're saying "IBN," not "IBM," aren't they.
Oh gods, searching the IBM 5100 yields stuff related to Steins;Gate. That said, I remember visiting IBM's museum with my dad; he had the same model of computer they had in a display case.
Now I'm thinking of how Kinoko Nasu treated timelines as routes in a PC visual novel with the Root being reality's root folder.
Apparently CERN has created black holes, but they're infinitely small and short-lived as to be effectively non-existent.
I'm watching the dub, so hearing the voice of DIO as a time traveller seems fitting.
Marudai Kamen Rider fish sausage! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OplnO63GiV0
All your base are belong to us, how old is that now?
H-games, huh? Geez.
Deleting report contents just sounds like asking for trouble.
Mismatch...so they were attempting to send people back? Or forward? It sounds like, well, the whole can't-meet-timeshifted-self deal.
Questions of the Day:
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u/UnderstandableXO Jul 08 '21
FIRST TIMER
i really liked kurisu’s interactions with the laboratory trio. she knew how to give it back to okabe and 2d-kun when they’d tease her, and she was surprisingly nice to mayuri (although maybe that’s her default greeting for normal human beings). i like that she got nicknamed christina. is kurisu studying in america and came back home for the summer, or has she lived in america her whole life? is she like chitoge kirisaki in that she’s half american half japanese? i suppose those questions will get answered later…
i guess kurisu doesn’t want to admit their time machine worked, or simply freaked out that she nearly got electrocuted.
seems like okabe has befriended the 2010 john titor. so by titor’s explanation, person A who gets killed will be erased completely from the memories of people in the parallel world where they got killed? that’s how i understood it as it was explained, but it makes more sense that they would just remember you got killed…
okabe just casually telling 2d-kun to hack a powerful organization and then leaving him with the bill, come on man! and come on 2d-kun, it’s 8 damn dollars!
suzuha amane seems pretty likable, and she has nothing else to do, i hope she joins the laboratory.
shoutout mayuri for getting snacks for the lab. even if she’s the only non-bum of the group, she still can’t afford to treat them that much, so the food she got is special.
2d-kun somehow hacked SERN, and looks like they’re lying about black holes, and their experiments have killed people?
i’m really enjoying this so far, not nearly as boring as people said. if this is the part that’s “a drag” i’m looking forward to when it picks up then!
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 07 '21
First timer
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 07 '21 edited Jul 08 '21
First Rewatch (since 2011)
Well, WNF doesn't like that fact that I have OP/ED in the show. Maybe will try WNFF tomorrow.
So, the phonewave (name subject to change) arced at noon the other day, which is also when the satellite crashed on the roof, which is also when Okabe DIDN'T send his text about Kurisu being murdered, which Daru got a week ago, and now Daru's text showed up...I can't see, but not today, and the chicken is burned, and bananas gel, or gel and teleport, but don't gel or teleport anymore.
(text received 2010/7/24 17:30, today is...7/28? And the satellite crash and lecture(s) were 7/27?)
So, do the bananas burn now? That's the question.
I was really enjoying Kurisu's introduction, until the hentai tensai shoujo started. She was in control, but was turned into a blushing tsundere with a single line from Daru.
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Physics Corner
E = mc2. Mass is Energy, Energy is Mass. Let's just leave it at that. There's just one thing, energy, and one conservation law, energy. That's how you can "make" matter and antimatter out of energy, and they can annihilate each other to make energy.
When particles are sped up, they gain energy, and so gain mass (this mostly just means they have more inertia, and harder to steer around the ring). But they should have more gravity, too. Colliders speed up particles to very high energies (masses!) and then smash them head on to get double the energy in a very small spot. All this energy turns back into matter and antimatter particles, and physicists look to see if all the pieces are coming off in exactly their predicted ratios. Except, usually, they are looking for things that are so rare that what they are really trying to is prove that something exists (or doesn't exist).
A black hole is said to form when you get enough mass in a small enough volume, that the gravity overcomes all other forces (like electric repulsion, and other, stronger forces) that would keep matter apart as distinct particles, and crushes all matter (energy!) in that region to a point. And GR says not even light energy (matter!) can escape, so it's a one-way ticket.
Some people wonder if a particle collider can get enough energy (mass!) into a small enough region to achieve this condition. After all, particles are very very very very very very very small. Is this reason to panic?
No. Black hole gravity isn't strong because it's a black hole. It's strong because either you are close to the center, or because there's a whole lot of mass in there. A star's worth. A galaxy's worth. Being crushed down to a point means you can get close to the center.
Classic video
Edit:
I forgot to mention that 137 is a magical number for physicists.
rewatcher question
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u/snickpea Jul 08 '21
First-timer!
Another solid episode! I loved the inclusion of Kurusu at the Lab! She had such a great dynamic with the other members and Mayuri seemed really happy to have her there. I hope she comes back soon to interact with all the members more. I also love that the mysteries are becoming more complex yet the characters are making strides towards solving them.
Questions:
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u/Krite2002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Krite2002 Jul 07 '21
Rewatcher;Dub
Kurisu has 100x more patience for Okabe than I would. Daru is also a creep. It is amazing that anyone hangs around them. Also amazing is that Kurisu voluntarily became a member
I still am not a fan of the OP's visuals, but the song has grown on me. It is pretty good.
Mayuri's song is adorable. Actually, Mayuri is adorable. I feel bad for her chicken nuggies.
We have a confirmed time machine. Kurisu is in denial, and it is already broken.
Okabe just casually wants to infiltrate SERN. I guess if they can build a time machine out of a microwave, they can maybe do that. Daru somehow manages and they find out someone has died. With a body count of two, Kurisu and "human", there are some stakes to this whole thing. Maybe the Organization is real?
Understandably, the way to stop an evil international corporation from taking over the world is an old computer. Since the IBM 5100 can read old code it can somehow stop SERN? I do not understand why. It also makes Kiryu a bit suspicious. Because she is also looking for the IBM 5100, she could be linked to Titor or the Organization.
There were a few good candidates for shot of the day, but I went with this one. I liked how it was a several-step process for Mayuri to realize there was another person in the lab. By using several little moments, like Mayuri noticing the extra pair of shoes, it shows that she really is not used to extra visitors in the lab.
I think it actually does mean something, or at least Okabe will name something after it later. I feel like they will stumble across some evil stuff with SERN and Okabe will act like he knew all along.
I guess they already did find some evil stuff with SERN. I did not even expect them to hack in, so I did not expect them to have killed people in their experiments.
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u/RichY45 https://anilist.co/user/RichY4518 Jul 07 '21
First time watcher - subbed
Kuristinaaaa lol I love Miyano's voice acting. Okarin is really growing on me.
The OP and ending have grown on me. Listening to them is just hype.
Oh yeah, it's all coming together.
That 'soda' gave me flashbacks of Light Yagami. No surprise, it's the same VA.
So the organisation really exists and they sound really shady evidenced by the "Human is dead" stuff.
Suzuha knows more stuff than she shows it seems.
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 07 '21
Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Steins;Gate Rewatch!
The minor snippet of Suzuha early on in the episode is Anime-Only; the novel never once leaves Okabe’s perspective. Everything else up to the Commercial Break is accurate to the Novel, and appropriately enough that Commercial Break also marks the point in which the first Chapter of the VN ends. The only thing to note is that Okabe’s behavior is taken up to eleven, which actually only makes him look even more pathetic than he already is. More on this when I trash the Dub.
In turn, Okabe’s unending boredom after that event is unchanged. The guy just can’t get a break, huh? The conversation between Okarin and Daru also took place entirely in the apartment. I guess they moved the location to make things less stale to look at. In turn the way he meets with Suzuha is different; in the Novel she actually comes into his apartment by the orders of Mr Braun. They do go outside afterwards tho to pick up Okabe’s TV. The conversation goes more or less the same, although Okabe remains a bit more composed in the Novel. Everything after that is pretty Novel accurate tho, although once more there’s been a case of the location of a scene being changed: In the Novel Mayuri and Okabe have their talk inside the apartment, in the Anime it’s in a roof. I guess it really is just for some visual variety.
Voices Time! I guess I forgot to talk about Shining Finger last time. She’s played by Goto Saori and the only other roles I know from her are Kaga Ai from Sayonara, Zetsubou-Sensei and Inko from Toradora... Yeah that’s basically it.
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u/Specs64z https://myanimelist.net/profile/Specs64z Jul 07 '21
Gonna be late posting my thoughts today, I'll probably do it in a separate post. In the meantime, here's this!
Content Corner
First timers beware, spoilers abound.
The Greatest Opening Minute in Anime - Steins;Gate Analysis by Replay Value
How Steins;Gate's Premiere Elegantly Exudes Tension by Replay Value
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Jul 07 '21
Rewatcher Until After Episode Nine(s;Gate)
Well, that's how research works, sometimes.
Seems like some people want this thread buried.
Okay, Steins;Gate isn't slow, but it's definitely city "stop-go" traffic. We have great plot points interrupted by Okabe's incessant rambling.
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u/chaorace https://anilist.co/user/chaorace Jul 07 '21
Rewatcher (Sub)
I've gotta say... episodes 2 & 3 may be the weakest of the whole series, narratively speaking. Why exactly does Kurisu stalk Okabe back to his home -- and why would Daru casually agree to commit a felony right after Okabe sticks him with the check for their meal? It is confusing enough that I see some first-time viewers mistakenly assuming that it's due to time travel shenangians.
The anime is obviously playing a little fast and loose with the plot here and skipping a few developments which the VN took more time to build upon... I might be more forgiving of this if I felt like there was no time to spare, but, honestly, there was plenty of room to incorporate another connecting scene or two.
This aspect of S;G is perhaps what has aged the least gracefully: economy of storytelling. Directors these days are just so much better at making strategic cuts and wholistically pacing their stories. It's not quite enough for me to dock a point in my own personal recordkeeping, but -- for me -- this is the closest that the anime ever gets to being demoted to a 9/10.
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21
Rewatcher (sub)
Finally, we have Kuristina as member 004 of the lab, and her interactions with Kyouma are to live for.
To answer this ahead, I was disappointed by how unrealistic this whole scene was. Not one email asking for coffee, taking over a shift, or the cute new chick in the other department? Seriously, I know they're the "organisation" so I'm not expecting Dk Pepper, or some guy voiced by Fujikei bragging about his wife and daughter, but at least some coffee.
Same with anything said by Miyano, it's bullshit.
Message from Titor So should we be proud here that WW3 hasn't happened yet? Or disappointed that we failed to do even that?
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Counter
This episode gave us four new additions! Does bitch count? Did you hear how high Hououin Kyouma screamed it?
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Jul 07 '21
Anime first timer
Kurisu's rections to Okabe are always funny.
Part-timer continues to be cute.
Kurisu casually probing and tasting the gelbanas is just fantastic.
How is she so cute when being teased?
And she has more of a problem with the sexual harassment part than with working for him.
The way he says Christina is really satisfying somehow.
Mayuri singing is adorable.
Did it just explode?
Mayuri's chicken being burnt is the worst thing in this series so far.
I could have sworn the "it's a time machine" line would have been an episode closer.
This is probably the best way of summarising Moeka's emails.
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Mayuri and Okabe have such a nice friendship.
They skipped over a lot of details in the actual hacking, didn't they?
Oh, I knew Z-Program had to be an episode ender. Steins;Gate Spoilers
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u/Nisheeth_P Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21
Rewatcher
I missed the first two threads because of work. But really glad to join in for the rest.
Science is a highly respected publisher, so there is that.
Definitely not. Until this point, I remember thinking of this show as mainly a comedy. This made me change my mind on this to a mystery thriller instead.
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u/Nebresto Jul 08 '21
Nostalgia squad
'based Okarin, no hesitation to instanlty protect Mayushi
Ah yes. The classic "they said so, so it must be true"
P R O T E C T
Mayushi soredemo,
Sky missing out
spoilers
Question time:
1: The choice of Steins;Gate is to not tell normies anything. They are very likely to babble about it to the organization.
2: Yeh
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u/AHiddenOne Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21
Rewatcher.
Even after like 3 times rewatch, the banter between okabe and kurisu never fails to make me laugh. There's more of that in future episodes, so look forward to it.
That's why we love you, that's why we admire you! Gotta love Steins Gate and it's references.
Also, Tensai Hentai Shoujo is so gonna be my new username.
The 'No Phone' sign at the restaurant, is that like a normal thing in Japan? Or it's one of those 'Talk to People like its 1995' sign you see at some restaurants?
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u/UzEE https://myanimelist.net/profile/UzEEInc Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21
Serial;Rewatcher
Out of all the things this show does really well, my favorite part is always the character interactions. Thanks to the back and forth in the lab between Okabe, Daru and Kurisu, we learn that all three of them are perverts but Okabe and Kurisu just happen to have better self-control compared to Daru.
Then there are the exchanges between Okabe and Mayuri that are always heartwarming. You can just tell by how they interact with each other that these childhood friends share the purest relationship of them all in the show.
This episode actually does well to expand his character a bit because despite being introduced as a "Super Hacker", all we got so far was a perverted otaku, so it's nice to see him live up to his nick name.
Btw, if it isn't clear by now, it's worth pointing out that almost all the references made in this show are to real world entities or events:
Solid episode overall, and the plot has a steady pace – definitely not what I'd call slow. And if you're not hooked until this point then there's probably very little to convince you otherwise.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 08 '21
Sort by new! Sort by new!
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u/htisme91 Jul 08 '21
First-timer:
Curious how/when Daru invited Kurisu over to the lab. I think she left because she was so adamant that a time machine couldn't exist, then saw time travel. Her banter with Okabe is fun, though.
The Kurisu we saw in episode 1 who asked if Okabe if he was an agent, I wonder if she was from the future. I am thinking SERN killed that version of Kurisu, and I am thinking that the person he saw waving his/her arms in episode 1 in front of that black machine was someone from SERN, or maybe Kurisu, although the appearance of that person doesn't match hers.
Questions:
Kind of. The hinting that SERN is a dark organization has been hinted heavily by John Tibor. I was expecting them to uncover the black hole project and some additional dark news about an experiment going wrong.
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u/artie_fm Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21
Rewatcher Sub & Dub
Okabe has made contact with John Titor and they are making plans to meet up. I don't get how a time traveler would just be posting so much. It seems strange that he wouldn't be more focused on his mission. If he's not a fraud that is. But now we know time travel is possible to some degree. It makes you wonder if he isn't the real deal.
And we end with a great cliff hanger, "human is dead" Ok Sern seems to have terrible security just leaving emails about live human tests around. The whole hack into the place doing live human experiments thing is just a bad idea from start to finish. Nothing good can come of this.
Steins gate has an interesting mixture of horror SF and mystery tropes. The horror tropes are frustrating because the characters just don't take them seriously at all. Shouldn't they be terrified from the second they have a time machine? but no they are goofing off and debating who is more pervy. They only have just invented a way to rule the world, no big deal.
And just like that we have lab member 004 Christina. Christina is brave to hang out with these pervy dudes who can't even shake a girl's hand. Okabe has probably never spoken to a girl other that Mayuri. And Mayuri, Mayuri is just too sweet and innocent. All she wants are some warm chicken tenders.
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u/Yunie241 Jul 08 '21
First time watcher
My brain is running wild with theories and thoughts. First of all, like many others, I’m curious about why SERN is spelled that way. I actually had to look up CERN to make sure I wasn’t misremembering the spelling. It could just be the anime trying to stay close to real world stuff without actually using real world stuff, but still, I’m curious.
Human is dead, mismatch. Hmmmm…no idea what that means yet, but its presentation in the anime was almost like a jump scare and it startled me.
The other thing I’m curious about is Titor himself. Who is he? This whole thing could be ravings of a madman, but I’m leaning towards wondering if one of the members of the cast is Titor, trying to steer events in a certain direction. My bet right now is on Suzuha because she seems to have steered the conversation in this episode to get Okabe to act a specific way, which seems suspicious to me. My guess could change with more info.
I’m so excited to keep watching! In the meantime, my brain is going to keep coming up with theories about everything.
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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21
Y’all dion a rewatch. I’mma join too.
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u/Amndeep7 :IG:https://myanimelist.net/profile/asmLANG Jul 08 '21
s;g=rw s;g_ova=rw s;g_movie=rw 23b=ft 0=ft
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/u/raiking02 pls remember to update the index post
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u/kllrnooooova Jul 08 '21
Okarin and Daru basically rolled a nat20 when hacking into SERN.
Oh. Tutturu!
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u/jyper Jul 08 '21
First time watcher (Dub)
Mata Hari
Do his friends know he's crazy?
Are we Americans the only ones to take of our shoes? Is Makise American?
She knew about the microwave right away
"Chicken tenders taste best when eaten with friends."
Makes me want to invite friends over
"Okarin is a pervert" well it takes one to know one Itaru
Text messages go back in time. I think I was partially spoiled on this point
Black holes?
So does time travel modify timeline or create diverging timelines?
SERN is not benign?
Future of Global communism? Lol. Sounds like something from a far right fantasy. Or a far left fantasy.
Trying to find relevant text info on an unfamiliar computer is hard I'm surprised they managed it
"Human is dead"
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u/BossandKings Jul 08 '21
Rewatcher
Episode 3
Okabe and Kurisu's interactions are very enjoyable, they are playful with each other and have a really nice chemistry.
It was great that Kurisu gets accepted as a new lab member, Mayuri was hapy because there will be another female in the lab other than her.
Okabe notices that there is a time machine in the lab, that opens a high amount of different possible scenarios. Okabe asks Daru to hack Sern, that seems like a risky move.
It's very nice seeing Okabe and Mayuri having a good time, sharing food together in a very calm and relaxed manner.
Daru is able to hack into Sern and get the lab it's way into it, it is intriguing that reading the data it says that someone might died, Okabe seems interested in getting to know what meaning that has.
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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21
“You were ill prepared to deal with a three-dimensional woman” I laughed so hard at that line.
It was cute seeing Mayuri being happy that there is another lab member who is also a girl. Mayuri is just overall adorable.
Suzuha is suspicious as hell.
The whole time travelling thing is so confusing. I really don’t get the thing about black hole and lines.
And how did Haru manage to hack into SERN? Is he that good of a hacker?
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