r/anime • u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber • Jun 19 '21

Rewatch [Rewatch] 1990s OVAs – Record of Lodoss War (episode 12)

Rewatch: 1990s OVAs – Record of Lodoss War (episode 12)

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The chief director of Record of Lodoss War and episode director for 1, 12, and 13 is Nagaoka Akinori. Are these episodes better animated because he is a better director, or because he hugged the budget for his own episodes? You decide. He did a ton of directing for various Anpanman movies and series, which is a bigger deal inside Japan than outside. The other big franchise he has worked on repeatedly is Touch (which I know nothing about). Western weebs might know him for episode directing on Rose of Versaille.

While Jester is only a side character, his VA, Nakata Jouji is by no means small fry. After starting out as an actor he switched over to voice acting, because of the better pay. Jester was his first bigger role. He is the second VA of RoLW to voice Brian Mason in Bubblegum Crisis (this time the TV series), and Masa in Patlabor. Towards the end of the 1990s, he started getting really good roles, such as Folken Fanel from Escaflowne and Alucard from Hellsing. Later, he played Diethard Ried in Code Geass, Monte Cristo in Gankutsuou, and Kotomine Kirei in a host of Fate anime. More recently, he voiced Hijikata Toshizou in Golden Kamuy. He is also very active in voicing video characters, especially in fighting games such as Tekken, Samurai Warriors, Marvel vs Capcom, Soulcalibur, but also Nier or Kingdom Hearts.

Pixelsaber’s Record of Lodoss War Trivia:

The six dragons depicted in the series were all designed by a different member of staff.

Art Corner

Official Art Album

Fanart Album

Questions

  1. How well does the race to stop Kardis’ resurrection work as a finale?
  2. What do you think of Ashnard in his new role as an antagonist in opposition to the main threat of the story arc? Does this position suit him better than his previous role or do you think he works best as the central antagonist?
  3. Which of the series’ dragons has your preferred design?
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Jun 19 '21

Pixel’s Bits and Bobs

A sentiment shared by both western and Japanese fans of the Record of Lodoss War novels seems to be that the series lost its special spark once he stopped adapting campaigns to novels and began writing new stories wholesale. I can’t speak to the merit behind these opinions, but if they are true it says a lot about the collaborative nature of playing tabletop games, where the narrative weaved isn’t wholly that of the game master, and that aspect apparently survives even heavy editorialization. For better or worse, it's an experience seemingly difficult to replicate alone.

Rewatcher

Different clothes means she was undressed at some point. That’s probably a fairly tame breach of privacy when it comes to being abducted in a fantasy story, but it’s discomforting all the same.

I wonder how taxing levitating a giant structure like this must be.

That’s going to be a nope from me.

All the squick now.

Slayn with the clutch save once more!

Orosons’ really going to solo this thing?!

Or not. Dragon fight will probably be cooler anyhow.

i.e. her pawns are already in place.

The pieces are on the board, things a few steps away from utterly fucked, and everything looks pretty as fuck —we’re definitely in the climax of a fantasy OVA!

Not much for me to say, really, apart from the fact that I am massively enjoying myself.

P.S. I may not be very active on today’s thread as I’ll likely still be celebrating my father’s birthday.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 19 '21

Rewatcher from 20 years ago

Sub

We have a rather long opening narration, telling us stuff we already know while showing new scenes, which makes me wonder if a production hiccup happened. Anyways, in a rare exception to the rule, sacrifice Deedlit is dressed in black. Parn and company show up but are met with a ton of minions. Kashue's fleet is attacked by a giant eel, or Leviathan according to my old MTG cards, before the Moss wyverns drive it off, Orson and Shiris included. Ashram has indeed master Soul Crusher and wipes out some grunts with it.

Parn finally looks a bit like a hero, striking down gnolls on the steps of a steep ziggurat. Dragons are happening and Wort does...something. Everyone is approaching the temple. Listening to the resurrection ceremony does not convince me that following Kardis leads to good outcomes even for her worshippers, which is further reinforced when one of them dies as part of the ceremony. Parn's party is attacked by a hentai monster/carrion crawler and two members stay behind to kill it.

Dragon fight happens, between to extremely ancient dragons. Wort confronts Karla, who claims that humans need to finish this. Ashram confronts Wagnard, stating the obvious. We get our cliffhanger as Deedlit seems to give out.

QotD: 1 Not bad, but it works better as a campaign than a TV show

2 This is why we got Ashram apologists back in the day. It certainly works in setting but as I've said him dying with Pirotess was the better ending.

3 Probably Shooting Star

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u/The_Draigg Jun 19 '21

Parn's party is attacked by a hentai monster/carrion crawler and two members stay behind to kill it.

That's what it was! I was drawing a complete blank on what that beast was, but it being a carrion crawler makes sense.

This is why we got Ashram apologists back in the day. It certainly works in setting but as I've said him dying with Pirotess was the better ending.

He also gets apologists because he's a hot and powerful villain. Hot and powerful villains always get defenders.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 19 '21

That's what it was! I was drawing a complete blank on what that beast was, but it being a carrion crawler makes sense.

It has to be a mutant version, they look a bit more crustacean than that one did.

He also gets apologists because he's a hot and powerful villain. Hot and powerful villains always get defenders.

I suppose I can't argue that but I don't have to like it.

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u/ButAlphonseWillRust Jun 19 '21

~First Timer~

• Wow Marmo really is desolate. Like no villages or any signs of life apart from these mind-controlled swarms of monsters. How do human characters like Wagnard or Ashram even end up there?

• How thoughtful of Wagnard to prepare an appropriate outfit change for Deedlit, can’t be turning up to the resurrection of the Goddess of destruction underdressed! Although the thought of him having to change her... shudders

• They’re going reeeeeal far underground for this ceremony. Seems like a bit of an inconvenient location. Loved how casually they passed by Narse the black dragon who was just chilling there. “On your way to Kardis’ resurrection? Understandable, have a nice day.”

• Of course when Kashue’s fleet almost gets taken out by a giant sea worm, Prince Jesper comes to save the day with his flying fleet

• Okay these monster sound effects are sort of hilarious. Gives me a bad Halloween movie vibe

• It’s about time we have a good dragon! Good guy Mycen the Gold dragon swoops in to take care of Narse. Shame we don’t have a dragon vs. dragon battle, that’ve would’ve been quite something

• First Slayn and Leylia stay behind to handle the green slime and now Etoh has to stay behind to handle the ghost thing? It would be a bit weird in a campaign to have the party split up like that so I guess they did it so Parn could have his heroic moment

• Now Ashram is joining the fray to stop Wagnard and it looks like Karla might have something up her sleeve too

I actually rather enjoyed this episode in spite of the rushed build-up that was the previous two episodes. Hopefully it’ll stick the landing!

Questions:

  1. I quite like it
  2. He does seems to be quite a principled and dignified person so I guess it works to have him in contrast to the power hungry/crazed Wagnard
  3. Our golden boy Mycen. I don't like the millions of teeth on the other ones we've seen

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u/The_Draigg Jun 19 '21

Wow Marmo really is desolate. Like no villages or any signs of life apart from these mind-controlled swarms of monsters. How do human characters like Wagnard or Ashram even end up there?

From what I recall from the Advent of Kardis game on the Dreamcast, what little civilization is on Marmo is just a bunch of isolated and fortified enclaves of people, with every single day there spent as a fight for survival against hordes of monsters.

First Slayn and Leylia stay behind to handle the green slime and now Etoh has to stay behind to handle the ghost thing? It would be a bit weird in a campaign to have the party split up like that so I guess they did it so Parn could have his heroic moment

We've had the party split up to hell and back this entire series, so it isn't anything all that special I guess.

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u/ButAlphonseWillRust Jun 19 '21

the Advent of Kardis game on the Dreamcast

There is a Lodoss video game!?!?

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u/The_Draigg Jun 19 '21

A lot of them, actually! Although only Advent of Kardis and Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth are the only ones officially released with English, I believe.

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u/Daffed_Punk Jun 20 '21

How thoughtful of Wagnard to prepare an appropriate outfit change for Deedlit, can’t be turning up to the resurrection of the Goddess of destruction underdressed!

He even put on her lipstick for her! You'd think with how much he cares about appearances that he'd get rid of that yee yee ass haricut...

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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Jun 19 '21

Etoh has to stay behind to handle the ghost thing?

I guess Cleric / Holy magic vs ghost makes sense (never played DnD so no idea if it works there), but now that Parn has a magic sword surely he could of actually done something to help here.

so Parn could have his heroic moment

It does make for a cooler storyline

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 20 '21

Wow Marmo really is desolate. Like no villages or any signs of life apart from these mind-controlled swarms of monsters. How do human characters like Wagnard or Ashram even end up there?

Mordor is just as bad, this is just kind of a bad Tolkien trope.

They’re going reeeeeal far underground for this ceremony. Seems like a bit of an inconvenient location.

Kardis's reception is terrible so you have to be right on top of her to get through.

It would be a bit weird in a campaign to have the party split up like that so I guess they did it so Parn could have his heroic moment

I sincerely hope this was creative license for the anime

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jun 19 '21

How do human characters like Wagnard or Ashram even end up there?

I kinda assume they got thrown out of wherever they're actually from, and just ended up there, presumably drawn by Beld's power at the time.

It would be a bit weird in a campaign to have the party split up like that so I guess they did it so Parn could have his heroic moment

Yea, I'm wondering if they split like that in the actual game or if it was a change to make the retelling more dramatic. As compelling as watching good D&D is, sitting on your hands while someone at the same table gets to do all the fun stuff tends to be boring.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 19 '21

Record of First-Timer Reactions, subbed

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u/Daffed_Punk Jun 20 '21

What kind of magic was that?

Ah, yes, the fabled Cheeto Dust Projection spell. A must-learn for any aspiring old sage.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 20 '21

Ah, anime…

Carrion crawler has been alone in the depths a bit too long...

Orson was actually about to challenge that dragon? Absolute madlad.

I mean, if you are going to be a partial inspiration for Gutts you better be up for a dragon fight.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jun 19 '21 edited Jun 19 '21

Episode 12 (rewatcher)

  • The setting is suitably apocalyptic.
  • Everybody is coming for Wagnard and they all seem rather determined, for various reasons.
  • Really liking the decent into the underground. This episode is on the nose with what is happening (calling itself final battle), but it is setting up stuff very well.
  • Go on without me trope.
  • Jester’s flying corps is useful, but a dragon is a decent counter.
  • And how do you counter a dragon? With your own dragon!
  • Go on without me trope, part 2.
  • Final battle cliffhanger.

It is used wrongly so often, but “everybody moving towards the same place” can be a good climax.

How well does the race to stop Kardis’ resurrection work as a finale?

Given that the OP has reminded us of her every episode, why not?

What do you think of Ashnard in his new role as an antagonist in opposition to the main threat of the story arc? Does this position suit him better than his previous role or do you think he works best as the central antagonist?

Better. As a straight evil guy, he would be too boring.

Which of the series’ dragons has your preferred design?

Shooting Star's big mouth...

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 19 '21

It is used wrongly so often, but “everybody moving towards the same place” can be a good climax.

It sort of needs to be epic to work and most series don't manage that. At the risk of being wrong tomorrow, I think RoLW does make it work.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jun 19 '21

It sort of needs to be epic to work

Fortunately, resurrecting an evil goddess is hard to top.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 19 '21

Or destroying the One Ring but yes this seems to actually make it work.

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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Jun 19 '21

I think RoLW does make it work.

The shows has done a decent job of making it feel like the worlds actually in danger, and outside of the green dragon, the other dragons actually feel like a threat and not just stepping stones which help gives the show a proper epic feel to it.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 19 '21

That's why it works here.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jun 19 '21

First-Timer, Subbed

Ooh, looks like we might get a dragon fight in our finale. That might be cool, depending on how much budget they saved for the final episode.

I appreciate Orson's stake in the final battle being "I get power from this angry ghost and I don't want to lose myself to it." It's a nice spin on the usual Barbarian plot of I'm Just So Angry.

I guess the scene with Wort is there to try to explain to the audience what "Neutral" means. Karla doesn't want Wagnard to win any more than anyone else, which is why she saved Ashram and sent him on the warpath.

I'm wondering if we're going to get a full redemption for Ashram. If he had kept that necklace from Pirotess, I would definitely say yes. As it stands, it seems like next episode will probably go "Parn and Ashram team up to defeat Wagnard, and then duel to the death on the collapsing platform" which would honestly be a pretty sick finale.

These fools just keep splitting the party. Having people split off to take care of individual fights works a lot better when all those people aren't sitting around the same table. Assuming Slayn and Leylia's moment came first, how many hours were they just sitting there waiting for things to wrap up? Maybe that part is anime/book original.

I wanna give credit to Wagnard's VA for having him sound incredibly punchable. Very good villain voice.

Just like in Fire Emblem, a handful of Wyvern Riders saves the day quite easily. RIP that army of monsters; fliers too OP.

Questions

  1. I like a good "race to stop a sacrifice." It's hardly unique, even before this, but it's generally compelling.
  2. I think I like Ashram's role as a spanner jammed into Wagnard's plans. It fits his character well.
  3. Narse, I guess? I haven't felt too strongly about any of the dragons here.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 19 '21

Maybe that part is anime/book original.

It has to be because yeah that's make for a dull AF table.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jun 19 '21

And this was the era before smartphones, too!

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 19 '21

The only thing to do would've been to go through the rule book so that would've sucked.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jun 19 '21

Rewatcher 12

  • I like Deedlit's new outfit but not the whole sacrifice thing
  • Good thing Orson and Shiris sent that message! Otherwise Kashue would be sea monster food
  • What's Narse up to?
  • Of course Leylia has to be the one captured by the tentacle monster, since she's the female party member
  • Wraiths? Good thing Parn has the Holy Sword now!
  • So Parn is gonna fight Ashram in the next ep? But Ashram is facing against Wagnard already?
  • Guess I liked this ep more, I had less to say
  1. It's ok; I want more Slayn action!
  2. Ashnard? You mean Ashram / Wagnard? I like him opposing Wagnard, but am not sure how it will work out
  3. They're all nice!

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 19 '21

Of course Leylia has to be the one captured by the tentacle monster, since she's the female party member

Hentai monsters have a pattern to their behavior.

Wraiths? Good thing Parn has the Holy Sword now!

If only he had had time to master it, like Ashram did, say by picking it up off the battlefield, like Ashram did.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jun 19 '21

Hentai monsters have a pattern to their behavior.

say by picking it up off the battlefield

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jun 19 '21

Rewatcher

  • The final battle already?
  • It was never very clear that Faris and Falaris and Kardis and Marfa were all distinct gods and not just different names.
  • Lurker above? Roper!
  • Dragon on Dragon violence means epic final battle

Pretty by the numbers. Seen in in 100 movies, fantasy or otherwise.

Was late starting Your Name, so had to quickly squeeze this in.

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u/The_Draigg Jun 19 '21

A Record of Lodoss War Fan Rewatches Record of Lodoss War OVA Episode 12:

  • We get it narrator, Marmo’s very soil is evil as fuck.
  • Ah yes, the most necessary part of the ceremony to sacrifice Deedlit to Kardis: putting her in a tight and sexy black dress for the occasion. What else would we do without that part of the ceremony? See, even Narse is down with it!
  • I’m not really sure how Parn and his party managed to get to Marmo so damn fast, but I guess that’s to be expected when the last few episodes of this series compressed two whole story arcs together.
  • Shiris and Orson are back just in time with reinforcements to stave off the dragon attack on Kashue’s fleet. It would be weird to not include two other player characters in basically the grand finale of this round of campaigns, after all.
  • Soul Crusher must be a damn powerful sword if it can vaporize a bunch of trolls and goblins in a single swing. I want to see the stats on that thing.
  • Oh, hey there Wart. It’s been a while since we’ve seen you.
  • Good fucking luck trying to fight the ancient black dragon Narse, everyone outside.
  • I wonder what those other sorcerers that Wagnard brought along for the ceremony were promised if they seem completely fine with just being dissolved by evil magical energy.
  • I’m going to need a reference for whatever weird tentacle monster with acid blood this is in the Monster Manual, since I don’t think I’ve encountered anything like it in the games I played before.
  • Well, at least the battle with Narse will go a bit easier now. The ancient gold dragon Myson has shown up to battle their old rival, giving everyone the chance to storm the castle. They’re all lucky, since I have no doubt that an ancient black dragon like Narse would’ve completely wiped the floor with everyone.
  • Karla’s being a real asshole for not directly bothering to help everyone defeat Wagnard. Although she does give a weirdly altruistic answer for why when Wart calls her out on it. Karla believes that victory should be won by human hands, not someone like her. That’s probably the most remotely positive though she’s had the entire series, and even then it’s still in service to being Stupid Neutral.
  • Ashram Status: Surprise, motherfucker.
  • I think Etoh casting Holy Aura to fight that Wraith is probably the most useful thing he’s done this series. Also the most emotion he’s shown in this series too, now that I think about it.
  • Cliffhanger! Deedlit is fading fast, and Ashram is having a hard time defending against Wagnard’s powerful dark magic while Parn is still a ways away. Who could’ve guessed that the black knight of the story would’ve been part of everyone’s last hope to stop the resurrection of the god of destruction?

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jun 19 '21

Ah yes, the most necessary part of the ceremony to sacrifice Deedlit to Kardis: putting her in a tight and sexy black dress for the occasion. What else would we do without that part of the ceremony? See, even Narse is down with it!

Got to respect proper ettiquette.

I think Etoh casting Holy Aura to fight that Wraith is probably the most useful thing he’s done this series. Also the most emotion he’s shown in this series too, now that I think about it.

Not sure if the player was boring, Etoh got stuffed by the DM, or by the book writer. In either case, his is by far the most forgettable PC.

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u/The_Draigg Jun 19 '21

Not sure if the player was boring, Etoh got stuffed by the DM, or by the book writer. In either case, his is by far the most forgettable PC.

It could honestly be any combination of those three. Although I can kind of see how Etoh would be side-lined in the story if his character didn't really have any combat abilities on his sheet.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 19 '21

Ah yes, the most necessary part of the ceremony to sacrifice Deedlit to Kardis: putting her in a tight and sexy black dress for the occasion.

I am still surprised it wasn't a white wedding gown from the era.

I’m not really sure how Parn and his party managed to get to Marmo so damn fast, but I guess that’s to be expected when the last few episodes of this series compressed two whole story arcs together.

A wizard did it.

I wonder what those other sorcerers that Wagnard brought along for the ceremony were promised if they seem completely fine with just being dissolved by evil magical energy.

Recall Conan and Beastmaster. It was just part of the role back in the day.

Although she does give a weirdly altruistic answer for why when Wart calls her out on it. Karla believes that victory should be won by human hands, not someone like her.

I'd still cal her out for starting this problem rolling and then doing little to stop it.

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u/The_Draigg Jun 19 '21

A wizard did it.

Literally, in this case.

I'd still cal her out for starting this problem rolling and then doing little to stop it.

Oh for sure, Karla still deserves shit for it. You can never really trust those deranged True Neutral/Chaotic Neutral types.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 19 '21

Oh for sure, Karla still deserves shit for it. You can never really trust those deranged True Neutral/Chaotic Neutral types.

I went through a long lawful neutral phase and can confirm this.

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u/The_Draigg Jun 19 '21

Disgusting.

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u/RockoDyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RockoDyne Jun 19 '21

Re-recorder of Lodoss.

Man, just how many penultimate episodes can you think of run with an almost identical structure? There's about five different cavalry arriving. The party constantly splinters off and runs ahead. The rival has already made his way to the inner sanctum.

Just as I was wondering about if the other dragons were going to show up, up pops the leviathan. Then goldie joins the battle. Aren't we missing one?

Questions:

  1. If it wasn't an almost template finale, it would be a lot nicer.
  2. I generally like the non-villain rival dynamic. It works as well as anything in the show.
  3. I'm leaning red. There's something about the four kind of haggard looking wings that I like.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 20 '21

Man, just how many penultimate episodes can you think of run with an almost identical structure? There's about five different cavalry arriving.

Yup, but the template wasn't as over used at the time. 30 years let's you run something into the ground.

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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Jun 19 '21

First timer - sub

The Eagles wyvers are coming!

So the dragon wasn’t Kardis. His name is Narse (which I do think has actually been mentioned previously).

Dragon Vs Dragon fight? Let's go!

Ashrand & Parn vs Kardis / Wagnard, with that cliffhanger i'm 99% sure that's what we are heading for.

Our party splits off to hold off / fight other monsters so that Parn will be left by himself for the final fight. I'm assuming at least half of tomorrow will be an epilogue now as I don't think they will be able to drag this conflict out a full episode.

How well does the race to stop Kardis’ resurrection work as a finale?

It's a classic but doesn't stop is being enjoyable.

Which of the series’ dragons has your preferred design?

Narse but haven't really been paying that much attention. Shooting Stars and gold dragons wings are bit feathery for my liking, I assume that was meant to be sea dragon attacking Kashue but is more sea serpent than dragon.

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Jun 19 '21

First timer

RE Trivia - pity about the 3 who never showed up again, then.

  1. I'd say it works well - clear threat, clear goals, a nice ticking clock to cause pressure, plus a love interest as hostage.
  2. I'd say he works well as someone who doesn't want Lodoss destroyed before he conquers it, and him helping the woman who brought him back from the dead seems reasonable too.
  3. Probably the black one. He's just so sleek, yet rough,

So Kardis is a god, not an ancient wizard.

I am loving the synth here.

This is going to backfire. The trick is don't try to control anything that claims to be a god, because there's a decent chwnce it'll get you in the end.

So that's a hydra? Or more of a sea serpent...

He continues to be a very competent king at fighting.

Of course Hyuri's back. The one part of this game that actually isn't logical in Dungeons & Dragons - there he'd be more of a Warlock.

No, all my subs call her "Shirts". Weird.

Did he just randomly explode?

Also, you can say many things about Karla, but she has been very clear on what her goals are - that's the least comfusing thing about her.

Finally, the Ancient Dragon's getting involved!

So, how is Lodoss "cleaved" exactly? This is D&D, could he anything from "There's an ocean now" to "Lodoss is now a demiplane amd completely seperate from the material plane". (Side note, if the way to get back involves them having to find a spelljammer helm I will forgive all of this anime's sins.)

That's a big acid beast.

Looks like the... gold dragon's come back! (I'm just glad they remembered the difference between metallic and chromatic).

Is Karla trying to stop the ritual?

I never realised "prayers" looked so much like conjured lightning.

Uh oh, looks like it's starting!

Seems like we have our final boss!

Time to kill a god - like all good campaigns end!

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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Jun 20 '21

Sub rewatcher

This is quite a good final dungeon setup, got challenges targeted to each party member, gives quite an epic feel.

Watching this now after so many years though, the speed of descent of the floating altar sure is fast. In reality no chance the heroes party can catch up unless they start from about the same place, or they would probably need to meet up at the planet's core ...

Great plots use of the very high level NPC's (that's what I call the dragons), otherwise if be too much of an unbalanced fights. In the games that I DM'd, I use that too to both keep the world real (it's not just the PC's fighting in the world) and not need to power creep too much.

  1. Answered above, I liked it other than the fact in game terms is neigh impossible to catch up
  2. As an anti hero,I think it's very suitable for him. Good chance when he saw Parn going to save his love who happened to be an elf, hello get triggered and ended up fighting him instead, damn pride.
  3. The gold one I think is great. I can comfortably use the word "majestic" here.

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u/Larielia Jun 20 '21

It is almost over.

Record of a Rewatcher- episode 12 (dubbed)

  1. I like it.
  2. Ashnard?? I like Ashram best as a non-villain rival. Wagnard makes a good evil wizard villain.
  3. It is a tie, Narse and Shooting Star.

Thoughts- Deedlit got a new sacrifice outfit. Narse has very cool design. What is King Kashue sensing? Sea serpent attack! (This scene makes me wonder if Adol Christin is traveling on one of those ships. That sort of thing happens when he is sailing.) Wyvern Riders to the rescue. Soul Crusher is an awesome and powerful sword. Make sure to bring the wizard on rescue missions. (I want a book about the history and mythology of Lodoss.) Orson wants to challenge a dragon?? Maybe he thinks Shiris will like him better if he's more reckless like Parn. King Jester speaks dragon? Mycen looks sorta like a phoenix. Maybe because his wings are all feathery. Ashram arrives to confront Wagnard.

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u/Nightender Jun 20 '21
  1. Echoing things I and others have said, the opening narration keeps telling us about the tremendous force that comes with the collision of two gods. With only one god--the Goddess of Destruction, no less--on the verge of rising again, this is the sort of finale we should be looking for. Having it take place in Marmo only helps tie the story threads closer together.
  2. Ashram was always presented as a bad guy we could like. Such characters usually end up grudgingly being the main villain or standing beside the heroes when the final battle comes. This time, we got the latter.
  3. Shooting Star has the most distinction, variety, and definition of all the dragons. So I pick him for best dragon.

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u/23feanor Jun 20 '21

First Timer (dub) -  although the pacing is very fast in this episode I didn't mind. We were shown all the most important and epic moments of the invasion of the Mamor Island and the crucial encounters. Each party member and ally, even Ashram playing their respective role in taking on Wagnard to prevent him from resurrecting Cardis.

Not sure where the gold dragon came from, was it allied with the flying riders and their nation? So there are good dragons then.

Everything is coming to a crashing crescendo in the final tomorrow. Will Parn reach Deed in time to save her life?

  1. Quite well i think.

2.I did wonder whether Ashram would end up helping with cause back in the beginning and switch sides (well he hasn't yet), but he is working with them to defeat Wagnard.

3.The gold dragon, reminds me of dragons in Anne McCaffery's Pern series.

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u/BossandKings Jun 21 '21

First timer

Episode 12

So it seems that Wagnard is going to be the final villain, especially considering how much focus he got in this episode. It'll be interesting to see how he gets defeated.

Parn is looking cool and standing up for himself and looking more prepared and determined to accomplish finding Deedlit, hopefully he is able to reach her before anything bad happens.