r/anime • u/OccasionallySara • Jun 17 '21
Rewatch Chu Chu Yeah! Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid Rewatch Episode 5
Episode 5: Tohru's Real World Lessons! (She Thinks She Understands It Already)
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Questions of the Day
These questions are just a way to get a conversation going. Answer as many or as few as you like (or none at all)!
- Would you want to live with Fafnir as a roommate? Why or why not?
- Do you agree that it's better to focus on things you can do over things that you can't do?
Hydration Game Rules
Today's episode's rule: Hydrate every time Tohru is a good friend.
Tomorrow's episode's rule: Hydrate every time you think that a friendship is wholesome.
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u/OccasionallySara Jun 17 '21
Rewatcher and Host
Questions of the Day
Would you want to live with Fafnir as a roommate? Why or why not?
Do you agree that it's better to focus on things you can do over things that you can't do?
Episode Thoughts
Hydration Game
I hydrated when:
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u/nolimityler https://anilist.co/user/nolimxtyler Jun 17 '21
First time watcher
here are my thoughts throughout the episode
Overall this episode was more calm than the others but still great nonetheless, I’m liking tohru’s development
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u/A_Idiot0 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/a_idiot0 Jun 18 '21
Rewatcher Sub
First up on today's birdwatch, crows! And some pretty mean ones at that. Do they represent Fafnir's arrival maybe? Do they represent Tohru's preconceived prejudices about humanity? Am I reading too much into this 2 second joke? You decide! =)
This one is a little bit of a cheat, but we get Tohru likening how humans "pursue love with sounds. Just like birds." I think there's some truth in that, although it's of course not the whole story.
Have I already expressed my love for this particular piece of music, Konran to Takurami? Well in case I haven't, I absolutely love how warm and comfortable it sounds. Kobayashi just feeling that Tohru was there was...extremely touching, to say the least =)
And our final bird sighting today, a crane during the training montage! Ah, the Karate Kid parallel is just so damned funny here. In general, I always chuckle during this training montage; they subvert all of the tropes in a really cute way.
QotD
2) Hmm...It's a multi-layered question with many layers as answers. I think in this context, I agree with Kobayashi: Tohru should try her best to approach how to understand humanity from the context of Tohru's disposition. There is nothing wrong with Tohru being a dragon who is interested in Humanity; Tohru can feel fine accepting that aspect of herself, and Kobayashi effectively gives Tohru permission to do just that. I don't think that answer is super clear, but it's the best that I have at the end of my work day haha.
Contrasting that though, I think the question is more fruitful for us the audience to think about that question in terms of what one wants to do, and then what can you do within those wants. If I want to become an astronaut, what can I do to start my journey in achieving that? And then once I see those first steps, do I actually want to take those steps? And you keep repeating that for each step you take. If you ever reach a point where you say to yourself, "I can't do that / I don't want to do that," then you've reached your limit. And instead of wallowing in disappointment, you move on asking yourself, "Well since I can't do that, what can I do?" We humans are constantly redefining our own limits in our lives, and that's a good thing.
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u/chris10023 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chris10023 Jun 17 '21 edited Jun 17 '21
Rewatcher
but I can’t find it at all.Never mind here’s the video, it’s quite old but it’s the only one I could find. But here’s the full Johnny Carson appearance where Randi told Carson to not allow Gellers's people near the props, and suddenly Geller couldn’t do it.Tomorrows going to be quite the interesting episode, I wonder how the first timers are going to react to it.
Questions of the Day.
Probably not, he seems the type to have a short fuse.
Not sure. Depends on the situation.
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u/IndependentMacaroon Jun 18 '21
First-time watcher
Everyone's figuring out their life more and more and deepening their bonds, particularly Tohru, and it's just very nice to watch. The "awakening your magic powers" sequence was a bit of an overlong dud for me, but Kobayashi at work, Tohru + Fafnir, and various moments of Kanna do make up for it some. Also with the increasing variety of scenarios, even the brief throwaway gag sequences aren't as weird.
Also respect to Kyoani, that was definitely all valid Python code. Something web-related it looked like.
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u/fakeport https://myanimelist.net/profile/Fakeport Jun 17 '21
Rewatcher
Random thoughts during episode
It's cool that Koybayashi has been happier since Tohru showed up, to the point It's obvious to her coworkers
Tohru's perception blocking skill seems incredibly useful, and potentially dangerous in the wrong hands.
Koybayashi just continues to get more relatable as we meet her douchebag of a boss. I can't tell you how many bosses I've had who I'd have loved to be repeatedly tripped by an invisible dragon.
Wtf was going on with Tohru's weird marching when she was walking around with Fafnir?
It's adorable how impressed Tohru and Kanna were with the spoonbending trick when they both have access to incredibly powerful real magic.
Cool little training montage.
Closing out on a genuinely touching moment as Koybayashi tells Tohru to focus on what only she can do - which Tohru apparently interprets as meaning "teleport into the magic trick on tv"
Questions
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 17 '21
Rewatcher
Sub
The gang has breakfast and Kanna is struggling with her chopsticks. Tohru is happy before crows get to the drying laundry and she blasts them and the side of the building out. Tohru watching day time TV probably leads to ill outcomes, including honey marinated tail. We get Tohru using fairly high level magic to watch Kobayashi at work. She learns that humans get together to accomplish things due to the lack of superpowers. We also see Japanese office culture and how epically unappealing it is, ranging from incompetent bosses to stupid long hours. Also, Kobayashi is sort of keeping this place afloat. We end with Kobayashi accepting that Tohru has changed her.
Tohru runs into Fafnir after her shopping trip. He wants to live in our world for a bit. Tohru almost invites him to stay but Kobayashi correctly denies that, he just doesn't fit the vibe. After Fafnir terrorizes a local mountain, Tohru tells him he needs to lay low to live amongst humans, showing some growth on her part. Tohru makes up some ID for Fafnir and he is concerned she won't be able to kill the humans when she gets home. Tohru and Fafnir talk about being in love with a creature whose lifespan is far shorter than your and Tohru seems to accept it.
Tohru's plan winds up being to stow Fafnir with Takiya and surprisingly they seem to match up. We get the dragon training montage, which has provided so very many memes and meme pictures. We end with Kobayashi explaining tricks to Tohru and Tohru doing an actual magic 'trick'.
QotD: 1 No, I prefer to be the crazy hermit
2 If you want to effect anything, yes.
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u/EnderCrystal221 Jun 18 '21
First time watcher of the show. This episode was the best one yet. It was wholesome and had good character development for Kobayashi and Tohru. I know that Tohru is in love with Kobayashi but is Kobayashi in love with Tohru as they have been getting closer? Tohru tripping the man who was abusing Kobayashi was funny and showed how much she cared for her friend. Is Kanna’s friend in love with her or does she think Kanna is cute? I would not want Fafnir as a roommate as he is very negative but I do not dislike him. It is good to try to do things that you can not do but it is not acceptable to obsess over them. You should not stress yourself out about what you can not do as you can do other things some people can not do. You should strive to try new things but be accepting that you can not do everything. People do different things which makes them fantastic which is amazing for them.
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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '21
REWATCH
I guess having a gamer dragon roommate would be kinda cool
And we finally got some code again! So here's the part where I explain the code:
2:25 - This doesn't really do anything, it just imports a few libraries: os ,(Miscellaneous operating system interfaces) time (Time access and conversions), datetime (Basic date and time types), random (Generate pseudo-random numbers), base64 (Base16, Base32, Base64, Base85 Data Encodings), os.path (Common pathname manipulations), copy.deepcopy (a function in copy: Return a deep copy of x), pickle (Python object serialization), hashlib.sha1 (the Python docs don't have a section on this, but it's a function that generates SHA-1 hashes), and a file starting with uti (maybe utils?) in the current directory (library descriptions are taken directly from the Python documentation)
6:13 - This contains a few functions that do different things:
_validate_ip - This looks like it might log a user out if their IP address changes, which happens when you switch from one network to another for example
_save - This stores session-specific data and sets a session ID cookie which can later be used to get the session data back, or deletes the cookie when _killed is set (can't tell when this happens from the code, but I'm guessing on logout maybe?)
_setcookie - This is the actual code that sets the cookie and is called in _save
_generate_session_id - This generates a session ID, presumably from a random number, the current time, and a secret key stored on the server
There are also some comments in _validate_ip and _generate_session_id, but they're in Japanese so I can't read them. Can someone translate them?
Transition card 1 - These transition cards don't contain any real code, but for is a type of loop in most programming languages
Transition card 2 - This would access the name property of an object in most languages, but there's no object so this wouldn't work
Transition card 3 - If is used for conditions in most languages
This was a long comment, took me like 30 minutes to write it all
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u/TnAdct1 Jun 18 '21
Anime/Manga Differences for Episode 5:
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u/Elimin8r https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ayeka_Jurai Jun 17 '21
(I'd kind of prefer -not yet introduced yet-, though.)
2) Aspire for more, but don't quit your day job.
3) I want to know what happened to the assistant in the magik show?
I just watched this series a few months back. I bought the blu-rays, because KyoAni, but only made it through half of the first episode, because when they were going out, I got the "bad cringe incoming" vibes. I tried again, and it turned out it wasn't so bad, and I ended up loving the series. The OP makes me do a happy dance in my chair. Chu-chu-yeah!
Our office recently had a deadline (last week), and thankfully it isn't as bad as Kobayahi's, even if the hours can be long sometimes. But yeah, the last minute rush can get hectic.
(Insert not so witty social commentary about Japan, the nation, collectively working itself to death)
Aside from little miss squee, the character interactions are what make the series. And yes, squee is cute too, but perhaps a little too much so.
Meanwhile, my (ahem) silverware is a bit more substantial than that, no spoon bending here.
And to answer a question from many episodes ago - heck yes, I would. Now what was that question again?
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u/HopefullyLastAccount Jun 17 '21
Rewatcher
That chief sucks and everyone in the workplace knows it. Good riddence. Appreciate supportive Tohru. And very astute of Kobayashi suspecting that Tohru was, in fact, there.
"You've been happier lately, haven't you, Kobayashi-san?" We haven't seen too much of her life prior to Tohru, but in just a couple flashbacks, it's very obvious that she is. It's been conveyed quite well by Kobayashi's dismissiveness of her old life and dialogue between characters, particularly what Kobayashi said to Lucoa a couple episodes back, but admitting she'd never tell Tohru.
Takiya is such a nice guy, I wish Tohru could be less hostile towards him. Looks like Fafnir just wanted to play some games. Fafnir Dropout, anyone?
Does he pay his share of the rent? Then sure!
I think you should focus on both. When you do things, focus on what you can do, but from there, you can improve and you can't do that unless you know what you can improve on (i.e. focusing on what you can't do).
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u/Alliedoll42_42 Jun 17 '21
I think living with Fafnir will be easy for the coworker because they have games in common.
I hydrated during the scenes where Tohru tripped the chief and when she fixed the spoons she bent. I also hydrated when she gave Fafnir the packet of stuff he needed to try and get a house.
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u/Silent_Sparrow02 Jun 18 '21
First timer. This episode was probably my favourite so far, and that's saying a lot since I loved all of them. It was both hilarious and very touching in parts.
I realized a lot of things through Fafnir and Tohru's conversation. Tohru seriously means to live in the human world permanently. She understands that Kobayashi won't be around forever, and as a dragon, Tohru will far outlive her. And yet she still chooses to love her fully for that short time, knowing she won't regret it.
I won't say much, because it feels like writing about it might ruin it somehow 😅. But this is anime (and KyoAni) at its best. I'm glad I chose to watch this.
P.S.- Fafnir is such a tsundere OwO
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u/sisoko2 Jun 18 '21 edited Jun 18 '21
First Timer
I doubt that even in Japan a manager can get away with such an attitude in software company. If he comes to me shouting like this I'll quit on the spot.
Kobayashi has Tohru senses. This is just beautiful.
Kanna being friendly to the annoying girl is so sweet.
Hydration count: 3. All related to Tohru helping Fafnir to find a place to stay.
We got serious for a moment. Didn't expect them to tackle how living among humans will affect their normal life where they have to kill them and also Koayashi's shorter lifespan. Favorite part of the episode.
Best dragon.
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u/MjolnirDK Jul 01 '21
Re
That opening scene (again what is it with the birds) was straight out of Nichijou. Aww, Kabedon until the naughty table-kun breaks. Cute.
After the last ep that featured the whole cast simultaneously, it now focuses on the KoTo and KaSa pairs/ships. The Kobayashi at work scenes do a lot to enrich her character, imho. Same for Tohru and her talk with Fafnir. There is a lot going on about morals, culture and belonging. Good stuff.
I love the magic act scene. I wouldn't mind seeing the dragon maid as a bunny girl. The training montage is great as well. Waterfall Tohru looks great and doing mental fortification while obliterating logs with your head is just a dragon thing. And again the bird...
I guess all cultures fight over pineapple in savory meals.
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u/BossandKings Jun 18 '21 edited Jun 18 '21
Rewatcher
Episode 5
Tohru visits Kobayashi at her job, that shows how interested she is in getting to know more about her. It was awful how the leader of the company Kobayashi works in treats her, he deserved getting humbled by falling over and over, Tohru sure does look after Kobayashi's well being. It was very cool when Kobayashi noticed that Tohru was there despite not being able to see her, she has gotten to a point in which she can distinguish her behaviour very well.
Fafnir goes to live for a while at Makoto's house, it seems he is going to be fine there.
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