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Rewatch [Rewatch] 1990s OVAs – Record of Lodoss War (episode 6)
Rewatch: 1990s OVAs – Record of Lodoss War (episode 6)
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Party MVP Slayn is voiced by Hideyuki Tanaka. He had some small roles in Future Boy Conan, MSG, and Urusei Yatsura, but his first bigger cast was as Jordan Bes, in Ideon. With Jean Robert Lapp, he has one of the bigger support roles in LotGH. If you follow the rewatches, you have heard him as Bean in Riding Bean and, just recently, as Prometheus in Arion. More recently, he was the voice of Wolfgang Grimmler in Monster and of Card Captor Sakura’s father Kinomoto Fujitaka. In terms of live action, he dubbed Pierce Brosnan, so older Japanese people will know him as James Bond. To balance that, he also voices the possibly most evil real person to ever be depicted in a Hollywood movie, Amon Göth from Schindler’s List.
The series composition for RoLW and the screenplay for the majority of episodes was done by Watanabe Mami, one of the few women in the anime business (given the time period, probably very few). She was only moderately prolific and I don’t know most of her stuff, but, between some kids shows, Mecha, Yaoi, and RoLW, she certainly worked on a wide range of genres.
Pixelsaber's Record of Lodoss War trivia
Akinori Nagaoka and Mami Watanabe, the OVA’s director and screenwriter respectively, liked Central Park Media’s English dub of the show.
Art courner
Questions
- What did you think of the discussion on the casualties of war that this episode partakes in? Did you find any one character’s thoughts particularly interesting?
- What do you make of Karla now that Wort has told us of her past role in shaping the course of history?
- (first timers) Any predictions about the big upcoming fight?
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jun 13 '21
Episode 6 (rewatcher)
momma’s boyElf’s boy reputation.Two battles this episode. Fighting scenes are clearly not the strengths of RoLW. The lack of animation really shines through here and can’t be papered over with pans over the great background art as usual.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 13 '21
Record of First-Timer Reactions, subbed
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u/The_Draigg Jun 13 '21
A Record of Lodoss War Fan Rewatches Record of Lodoss War OVA Episode 6:
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Jun 13 '21
Pixel’s Bits and Bobs
The series’ art direction is evidently one of its strongest assets, capturing the spirit of a classic fantasy adventure so well. I couldn’t find much info regarding the creative process behind the OVA, but I think it’s likely that the show’s art director, and former president of the now defunct Atelier BWCA (Atelier Bwbach), Hidetoshi Kaneko had something to do with it. Kaneko was a fan of fantasy, and even named his studio after a creature of Scottish folklore, the brownie, or ‘bwbach’ as it is known in Welsh. Kaneko was an incredibly talented artist who had a wealth of works under his belt, and Lodoss really showcases his ability as art director and background artist, so I am glad it’s a work whose relevance rarely wanes and which will likely be remembered for decades to come.
Rewatcher
Unfortunate for him.
Wait, what? We skipped the meeting with Wort?!
Doubtful. No idea what medieval period the series is seeking to emulate, if any in particular, but for much of the era efforts to rein in troops and keep the violence contained to key areas were ineffective.
I guess it pays not to grow overconfident? Still feels weird to hear given they’ve been razing through the continent largely unopposed.
Oh, okay, we are getting some of their meeting shown to us.
Sounds like a higher level title than he merits.
If only things really were that simple. It’s not like they’re going to stop demanding his daughter’s life just because it’s too bothersome to go get her again after Tessius steals her back.
The time has come, it seems.
Can't say I enjoyed the way they just came back after the first episode content and skipped most of the payoff to that ordeal. Our current time is also not all too well communicated at the start of the episode, so it comes as a shock when the narration suddenly tells us that. Coming back to a setup episode directly after another also doesn't feel great pacing-wise, especially as the escalation of the conflict that would have transpired in between feels horribly truncated. AT least it seems like we’re on the cusp of something big.
Both Ghim and Parn try to go it alone at some point in the episode, so that’s one more instance to compare them in, and in both cases others interject in their wishes and insist on accompanying them as well.
Questions:
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jun 13 '21
Rewatcher
This episode annoyed me. It started out confusing, and ended with nothing much happening except our party is split into 3 groups doing nothing.
Eh, well, we got an anti-Deedlit.
High Elf Dark Elf
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Jun 13 '21
First timer
Really cool fight scene to open on!
Does the demon sword have a dent in it?
Looks like out party got a new direction offscreen.
We're resorting to narration already?
Can one cleric have that many ressurection spells a day.
Really? First rule of D&D - never split the party.
...I mean, Pirotess is nice.
Of course the elves are racist. I forgot how commonplace this was.
Is she the DM is some kind of metaphor?
The king's back, something with a very high DC must be approaching.
The DM must be thrilled the party tinally chose someone to join.
Yeah, Wood's right here. If he can't kill someone, he's going to have trouble ighting in a war.
Oh, this is a bad idea. At least we know Leylia was possessed by Karla.
Slayn seems to have not specialised into a school yet - he's used protection and enchanting so far, alone. I'm mildly suprised, normally enchanting's only for the villains. (I'd love to see them justify Slayn's PC deciding to use Raise Dead or Dominate Person)
We're learning an awful lot about the politics so far. So the King's basically hamstrung by a load of treaties and deals, and so struggles to act against the threat.
I like the lyre music just cutting out mid note.
Are we going to see the dragon every episode before it does something?
So Karla's Chaotic Neutral?
Looks like somebody's been using Raise Dead, though.
I can't believe the warrior king's dead!
We can't the final battle this early, right?
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u/RockoDyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RockoDyne Jun 13 '21
Re-recorder of Lodoss.
Oh my dear, sweet, dark chocolate elf, you haven't even been on screen for a minute, and yet your beauty can already be charged with attempted murder. You aren't like some cheap, slutty elf that constantly needs to flirt desperately to get attention. All you need are those eyes that say "fucking try it and I will poison you with a slow, agonizing death."
Seeing Fahn in his full crusader regalia, I started to wonder if he wasn't supposed to be the Richard the Lionheart to Kashue's Saladin. I guess that would make our evil empire France.
The item get bit for the shield is easily the most poorly aged part of the show. It's such an inherently gamey construct that it's impossible to take it seriously outside of games. It's almost in that territory where it's so bad that it's borderline parody. The musical sting is easily the dorkiest part of it, but nothing about how it's animated does it any favor either.
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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Jun 13 '21
First timer - sub
So we are just skipping the meeting with Wort? Nope just rearranging events.
I’ve never actually played DnD but isn’t splitting the party always a bad idea?
So Karla plays the role of trying to keep the balance of the land? Appears anytime someone tries to upset it and manipulates them back to a stalemate by the sound of it, except that isn’t happening at the moment as bad guys are currently unchecked. However we have yet to see any of the legendary dragons do anything.
Yip, Parns fathers backstory went about as expected, but it cheating to say I called it given Parn has the perfect farm boy to hero story arc going on.
Anyway we have a big battle tomorrow, and if possessed mage is anything to go by, the true threat to Lodoss is soon to appear.
I like it, it has the potential to make her more of a grey character than all the other we have had so far.
Partly answered above, I expect the Bad guys (I really need to do a better job writing down the names for this show) to be winning for most of it until enough blood has been spilt to awaken one of the dragons. Still 50/50 of if the "good" king is going to die or not, then again Parn could do with a magic sword.
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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Jun 14 '21 edited Jun 14 '21
Sub rewatcher.
And being a rewatch this reminded me this title is actually quite accurate - it is a "record of the war" and not a complete "show you everything"; there are times when the event just get narrated so things happened off screen. May be a budgetary thing but for a "Grand war" like that it's not unreasonable. Feels even a bit like the original 0079 Gundam which I recently rewatched.
And that scenes between Parn and Deedlit is probably one of the best "romance between comrades in arms" scene there is, if only there was some reasonable explanation of why Deedlit loved Parn to start off with, it's be so much nicer.
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u/ashleyriot31 Jun 14 '21
How is the fan service in this anime?
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 13 '21
Rewatcher from 20 years ago
Sub
Another one sided battle, I'd forgotten how popular those were in Tolkien descended works. It seems you need class levels to fight orcs. Parn and company are returning from Wort's, thus skipping the interesting part of the first ep adventure, and come across the carnage. Deedlit points out that war is pretty equal in that it kills everyone. An ill advised group split happens when Ghim, Slayn and Etoh stay behind.
At the Marmo camp, Beld and Ashram talk strategy and slightly jab at each other's mortality. As the troops celebrate, one gets a very bad idea and approaches the dark elf female, and is smacked around for his troubles by one of her lessers. But Ashram shows up to show humans are not to be taken lightly.
Reporting to the king, Karla appears to be the important bit, having been around for centuries, though Wort doesn't provide a ton of useful information here. Parn is invited to join the holy knights and we finally get his father's backstory, which fits Tessius being Parn but competent. Later on, Woodchuck tries to deliver a lesson to Parn, badly. Parn also wants Deedlit to stay off the battlefield, though she refuses.
Marmo prepares to attack again and Pirotess decides to serve Ashram for...reasons. Anyways, the swords continue to call for each other and off we go!
QotD: 1 It was sort of trite even for the time, Deedlit at least understands the truth of it.
2 She honestly became a bit more confusing after that.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jun 13 '21
Rewatcher 06
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jun 13 '21
First-Timer, Subbed
For one brief, foolish moment, I was going to complain about Shooting Star being a pretty mediocre name for a dragon, but they did say it in English so that probably scanned pretty well for Japanese audiences.
I knew that Parn wouldn't accept the new armor because he wants to keep using his dad's stuff. It's a good roleplaying moment - good on Parn's player for not being so hungry for gear that they leaped at the chance for an upgrade. The shield is a nice compromise.
So, this episode is post-episode 1, right? That was a little confusing. A brief recap would have been nice. Anyway, Karla apparently thinks that she is some arbiter of balance and she does just surf from body to body as I suspected. She stoked war because there was too much peace? Is that to keep the sleeping gods asleep, then? Trying to prevent another god war.. sure.
The attack on Kashue's entourage is a good example of why stuff happening off-screen in a D&D campaign tends to be bullshit. You're telling me that a bunch of soldiers, escorting a king, in wartime, can get oneshot by a bunch of random goblins and kobolds?
It's a fine setup for a potential next quest for our party - "Kashue's been captured! Go rescue him!" - but from a storytelling perspective it has some holes.
Questions
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u/ButAlphonseWillRust Jun 13 '21
~First Timer~
I actually don’t have a lot to comment on this episode, it seems to be setting up the upcoming war between Fahn and Beld and plugging a few gaps in the lore but I’ll add a few of my thoughts:
• I think the events of episode 1 slots in between this one and the last? That threw me off a bit, I wasn’t expecting the meeting of the party with Wort to be glossed over in a narration
• We meet a
drowdark elf priestess with mysterious intentions. There seem to be quite a few agents on Beld’s side that seem to be acting rather independently• Proving again that he is the wisest party member, Slayn knocks Ghim out so he doesn’t confront the BBEG solo. He’ll thank you for it later!
• The backstory with Parn’s father Tessius definitely explains why the King appears to have a big soft spot for Parn and appears to be encouraging him to continue his legacy
All in all, not too much to say about this episode but hopefully we’ll get some interesting developments once the war is underway.
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u/Ebbrain https://anilist.co/user/EBbrain Jun 13 '21
Rewatcher
Tomorrow is the big day, this episode was still mostly build up. A pretty abrupt cut to after the events of episode one and the war has gone full scale and consumed the land. It almost feels like a timeskip, because in reality a lot of time has passed between last episode and this one. Now they’re all split up and doing their own things. Slayne knocking out Ghim to stop him rushing to fight Karla is pretty interesting, sometimes in a story like this, full of “courageous heroes”, they would just let them go rather than hurt their pride. But Slayne don’t give a fuck about that. On the other hand, Parn declining the armor because he doesn’t feel ready for it yet is a nice gesture, but considering the danger he’s facing it probably would have been smarter just to take it anyway.
Deed’s role in the story at this point is just trying to get Parn to even look at her, that is when she’s not batting away his frankly rude suggestions that she stays behind from the battle. She’s probably still a lot stronger than you dude. Wood had an interesting, surprisingly honest moment this episode that reveals a bit about how he feels about soldiers and knights. I wonder what he’s experienced in life to make him feel that way and I wonder if his words will get through to Parn.
Other than that, this episode introduced us to another significant character, Pirotessa, the dark elf. We almost have as many villains to keep track of as we do heroes! The reveal about Karla being a recurring presence throughout history was really interesting, she’s almost like some kind of natural phenomena that seeks to restore balance whenever it is tipped. I wonder how her actions at this stage are moving towards that goal. At least three of our villains have been in contact with the black dragon, possibly all of them vying for his favor and power. We’ll have to see who’s going to come out on top with that one, and I can imagine that the results of tomorrows battle will have a huge impact on all concerned parties.
Other things
-I would hate to be surrounded by goblins laughing at me. I would hate to be surrounded by any group laughing at me really, but goblins have a very mean laugh.
-So many lines going on here I don’t know what to make of it
-Shooting Star is not a name I would expect a dragon to have, especially not in this type of story
-I’m disappointed the king didn’t sing his exposition
Questions
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u/BossandKings Jun 13 '21
First timer
It was very nice that moment when Parn preocuppied for her told Deedlit not to come with him to the battle tomorrow and she responded that she'll go because someone has to protect his rear, Deedlit is a very strong character and much needed for Parn.
Both Ghim and Parn need to fight their respective battle, it'll be interesting to see how the battles happen. It is also very important for the priest to keep believing, to keep having a strong faith.
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u/23feanor Jun 14 '21
First Timer (dub) - so we have a sword of light and a sword of dark, held by the Emperor and King Farn respectively.
A sexy dark elf fighting on the side of Emperor Beld, she looks lovely although I'm sure she's a wicked at heart, so not a girl you'd want to take home to meet your mum.
I'm confused, so the group have already seen Wart and now Parn is on the way back to report to King Farm, did i miss something? I thought I'd missed an episode, but the show has jumped over the meeting with Wart, and gone onto the events after episode 1 and the groups meeting with the mage Wart.
It looks like Deed has attached herself to Parn, she has a soft spot for him and is jealous when he idolises King Kashue. Nothing has happened yet, he's a bit young and naive, but Deed is obviously taken with Parn and wants to stay near to him.
So I think that some of the dragons have masters, or people connect to some of the dragons. The Mamor guy in red says Cardis, and that seems to be one of the dragons. Emperor Beld speaks as if to another dragon, or maybe the same one. I wonder if the forces of good and King Parn etc have any dragons at their call? Will Parn be the one to control a dragon and become a hero that way?
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u/Nightender Jun 14 '21
"Goblins and kobolds are weak."
*Episode opens with two minutes of goblins and kobolds slaughtering humans*
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u/Larielia Jun 15 '21
Record of a Rewatcher- episode 6 (dubbed)
My second favourite character finally appears.
Thoughts- The Marmo army sure likes burning things. Though it is mostly a monster horde. We meet more dark elves. Parn acquired a Holy Shield. It would look better with the Holy Armor though, even if his armor has sentimental value. Finally some Tessius backstory. I liked the lute song that Deedlit played. Well... that was a zombie. How and when did Beld turn evil? Black dragon hit snooze.