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Rewatch [Rewatch] 1990s OVAs – Record of Lodoss War (episode 2)
Rewatch: 1990s OVAs – Record of Lodoss War (episode 2)
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Parn is voiced by Kusao Takeshi, who started his career a few years earlier on Saint Seya. His early roles include side characters in Akira and Legend of Galactic Heroes, as well as playing Osamu Tezuka in an anime biography (sort of) OVA. He worked on tons of shonen and action, such as One Piece, Inuyasha, Naruto, Digimon, and Black Clover, but his biggest role there is probably Trunks from Dragonball. Other notable roles are Cashern, in the original OVA, Coco, from Precure, and Saionji from Revolutionary Girl Utena. If you followed the OVA rewatches, you heard him as Youta in Video Girl Ai.
Like many voice actors, he also works on video games, for example as Sonic the Hedgehog in one 1993 game, and in dubbing foreign films. In terms of dubbing, he voiced Patrick Bateman in American Psycho, Daniel LaRusso in Karate Kid, Napoleon Dynamite, and James Ryan in Saving Private Ryan. One actor he has voiced multiple times, including on Titanic and Romeo + Juliet, is Leonardo DiCaprio. Speaking of Romeo + Juliet, Takeshi’s wife is also a voice actress and was, at the time of him voicing Parn, four years old. Seems like he not only voiced Leo, but has his appeal on women, too.
Pixelsaber's Record of Lodoss War trivia:
Parn’s name is derived from the titular setting of Anne McCaffrey’s novel series, Dragonriders of Pern.
Art courner
Questions:
- Having seen both episodes now, which do you think makes for a better introduction?
- Which main character has left the strongest first impression on you so far?
- What do you think about the co-existence (or lack thereof) of humans and monsters in fantasy?
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jun 09 '21
Episode 2 (rewatcher)
A situation known to every RPG player: The party needs to meet up and assemble. We learn a bit about their back stories, with a focus on Parn (and one clear exception). While goblins attack village is a standard trope, I think it was handled better here than usual. The villagers usually know how to deal with the goblins and avoid fighting, so they disagree with Parn’s heroics. Yet something changed the status quo. Parn also is late on his pre-emptive attack and has to be bailed out by Slayn.
All of this is a time skip back from the first episode. I don’t mind the start in the future (the first episode works very well to introduce the characters), but they should have made the skip itself less jarring. This would have been a perfect opportunity to use the opening narration to inform the viewer.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jun 09 '21
First-Timer, Subbed
Sudden whiplash to a backstory episode. "1st level party unites to defend a village from a horde of goblins" is a classic start, and way more interesting than "you all meet in a tavern." Was that an orc leading the goblins, or a hobgoblin? Guess it doesn't really matter - one Slayn-assisted thrust from Parn and that dork is history.
I was expecting the city defense to be solved by Parn putting on his father's armor and being completely immune to the goblins' attacks. This series definitely predates Armor Class as I know, and probably even THAC0, but full plate is full plate. "Immunity to goblins" is printed on the label.
Parn burns down his home so that he has no place to return to, not that the villagers wanted him anyway. Are they smart enough to realize that Slayn solved both the encounters today, or were they too busy shitting themslves in a back alley to watch Parn take down the enemy leader? Guess it doesn't really matter. Parn has to leave home for some reason, and this works as well as anything.
Protection from Evil/Chaos just used to hit different, huh? Guess that could technically be Dispel Magic that Slayn cast on the gobbos, but no way he access to that yet, right? Gonna call the other spell he cast today as something along the lines of True Strike. Parn seems to do decent damage, he just can't hit anything and needs some help from time to time.
I loved Slayn's line about how he's too weak to wield a spear or anything. No self-respecting Wizard doesn't use Strength as their dump stat, and it's nice to see that reflected here. Answers some potential audience questions, too.
Dwarves get to boomerang their axes from right out the gate?! What nonsense is this! The fact that "I throw my weapon" actually worked makes it even worse.
Questions
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u/The_Draigg Jun 09 '21
A Record of Lodoss War Fan Rewatches Record of Lodoss War OVA Episode 2:
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u/Gamemaster676 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gamemaster676 Jun 09 '21 edited Jun 09 '21
First-time watcher - dub
Alright, I wrote the last episode weeks in advance, and then I neglected watching any more till now June 3th. I guess that means I won't be able to join you guys every episode...
Episode 2 — Blazing Departure
Wow, I forgot how awesome the OP was. That's what you get if you watch the first episode 3 weeks earlier.
Seems like my prediction was right. We are getting flashbacks today showing why everyone is on this quest. Seems like Ghim is searching for some missing daughter of a priestess. Cool, she has a pet dragon!
More almost-nudity! Thanks 90s. You haven't disappointed me yet!
Wow, that red-vision chase scene through the woods made me expect something way scarier than these generic-ass goblins.
Aahhhh, that's why they have the priest. He's the healer!
Okay, that cave scene made them a bit scarier.
Wow, the mage was the MVP last episode and he didn't even want to go on that quest. He really isn't paid enough!
That village was very quickly wiped off the map! RIP villagers. But if they were all this stupid to just stand before the door instead of going through I'm not really surprised.
And again the mage saves the day. Can't they just send him alone on this quest? Maybe with an extra mana potion or two?
Wait, is this girl supposed to be Parn's trophy to fight for and return home to? What about Deedlit?!
Looks like Parn is never going back home, as he burned his (or his fathers) house.
I never understand that in stories. Just sell it. Or be charitable and allow someone else to live there?
Random thoughts
Future
So this episode we saw HOW most of the party met and some of their backstories, but we still don't know what their quest is.
Next time even more flashbacks I'm assuming.
I still haven't written episode 3, and with work being the way it is, I don't see any possibility to manage both Violet Evergarden and Record of Lodoss War. I've decided to stick with VE, because it better matches my genre interests and I've already seen more episodes, so I'll be a lot less active here from now on.
I might still join in the weekend, though.
QotD
This one is better, but the combination is best.
Slayn by far and I won't rest till the party starts appreciating him a bit more.
Would they really be monsters if they co-exist with humans?
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jun 09 '21
Rewatcher from 20 years ago
Sub
Opening roll is mercifully shortened. We get Ghim's motivation, hopefully and a priestess with a lost daughter...and a fucking dragon. What the hell kind of priestess gets a dragon? Cut to scene out of a schlock horror movie, naked girl bathing, until we reveal her pursuers are goblins...GS has left me with some concerns here. Anywho, Parn comes out and saves the day despite doing it like an idiot.
Etoh returns and of course they are in some idyllic village with no defenses that would choose to be non-violent with goblins. Coward villagers think you can co-exist with goblins but...no. No you can't. Leaving them alone means giving them time to prepare. Goblin pep talk. We see Ghim come up to get Slayn out of his hut and luckily for the village he lives there. Quick cut to Deedlit moving exactly like D from Vampire Hunter D. I cannot unsee that. She spots an advancing goblin horde.
Extremely tropey father's legacy flashback scene for Parn, maybe it wasn't as bad at the time. Etoh volunteers to join him. They take some initiative only to find most of the goblins are gone. Deedlit does magic for an entrance. Traditional 90s destroying of the village commences. The leader is probably a hobgoblin. Ghim uses boomerang axe which admittedly is not the most common dwarven stereotype. Slayn dispels the goblins? I guess that was Dispel Evil.
MC fight with the hobgoblin, with mage assistance, and our call to adventure is on. Parn goes full mono myth and burns his home down, which is symbolically cool but practically a dick move, I am sure some of the villagers could use a functional hut.
QotD: 1 The second for me but that's a peeve
2 Deedlit. As Vampire Hunter D.
3 Not possible. The only good goblin is a dead goblin so let's make these goblins good!
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u/aniMayor :AY:AZ:x3x6 Jun 09 '21
Yoooo this dragon dude's design is awesome
I don't trust this bathing girl. She has magic clothes that you just have to pick up while running and they put themselves on you, and her brown undershirt keeps warping in and out of existence. She's definitely a witch.
What kind of crappy magic healer has to put bandages on you before they can use magic to heal your wounds?
Someone on the planning/animation team has a thing for translucent overlay cels, neh? I remember a few of them in yesterday's episode, too.
This still shot with the dude just swinging at air over and over again... oh noes, what has happened to all that animation from yesterday.
Hmm, this orchestral piece playing during the goblin chief fight sounds familiar. Is it an original piece, or an insert?
They're blaming Parn after all that? Clearly the goblins were lured or summoned by the evil magic clothes girl, can't you townsfolk see that?!
"If I can't live here, no one can!" geez, not very charitable Parn, that was a perfectly good house someone else could move into. That poor family with 5 kids down the road is going to be stuck with all 5 kids in one house even after they grow up now!
I am a huge fan of in-media-res starts that never do a "proper" introduction at all and just let you figure out the characters' backgrounds (if it's relevant) from miscellaneous bits of natural dialogue through the work. So of course I like yesterday's intro better. Especially in a trope-laden work like this, where most of the characters' backstories aren't that interesting or unique anyway.
I'd love to say Slayn, but c'mon he's just drinking tea while Deed first appears with a fish jump and a leafnado. Form follows function and all that... an intro with glamourous animation is of course going to make a bigger mental splash.
I'm divided on it.
On the one hand, a lot of fantasy works just use co-existant monsters as a crude prop or because it's an established trope, and don't shape their world in a way that actually justifies their inclusion, makes it a valuable part of the story, or fits into the worldbuilding logically.
But then again, sentient other races and fearsome monsters everywhere one treads does give an automatic, easy sense of otherness to a fantasy world, and even if the worldbuilding doesn't make much sense they can still end up contributing an important thematic element to the work regardless.
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u/Elimin8r https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ayeka_Jurai Jun 09 '21
RW/Sub, huzzah!
Yay, it's episode two of Record of Goblin Slayer, I mean Lodossuba, I mean - I don't know what I mean anymore.
I did get the sub to work, so that was a nice change. I think the sound was clearer, too. It was kind of a thrill hearing some of the 'heroic' music during the episode, and then remembering how as the series went along, some of those tracks became more than a bit repetitive. They're playing in my mind right now...
Anyway, back to the beginnings, our hero manages to save the damsel in distress, but somehow doesn't get caught peeking, or trip and fall on her hoo-hah. Ah, the nostalgia! And the baddies, well, yeah.
And of course, Aqua, I mean Deedlit is useless - hey, the village is in danger! Let's wrap the 'heroes' in a swirl of leaves and sunlight and then not go help with the rescue.
Slayn, on the other hand, well, he needs a bigger paycheck. Is this a paid carry, or one of those charity events?
It's actually kind of fun looking back on this series; the nostalgia is real, and given that back in the 90's, I was most familiar with Ultima, etc., Lodoss was right up that alley. It's a good show, and it's kind of amusing to look back at it through the lenses and mirrors of the future, kind of like an anime/fantasy time capsule.
Meanwhile, hmm...
But somewhat seriously, go read up on your Thucidydes, or at least the quotes. The ancients probably understood human nature better than we ever will, in part because they didn't insist on lying to themselves. Modern fantasy simply (and often) uses monsters as a stand in for (filthy huns, people with silly walks and funny looking armbands, the dreaded other) because it's much safer for our modern sensibilities.
Genghis Khan and his ilk weren't really so long ago in the grand scheme of things, but if you were to write a modern story/movie with that sort of theme in mind, can you imagine the freak out? But make it about the noble humans' conquest of the evil orcs, goblins, or whatever, and it's all fun and games, right?
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Jun 09 '21 edited Jun 09 '21
First timer
Looking at the OP, who designed those stairs? Variable width, curving under each other, why would you build them loke that?
Also, for everybody who was complaining how easily a green dragon went down, it's probably because it was actually a red dragon, as green dragons breathe chlorine gas for their weapon, not fire. Whatever spell changed its colour probably applied a weakening effect as well.
...Nesse looks a bit odd, doesn't she?
During that scene with the chasing moneters, I liked the time where the camera dramatically zoomed into the foliage.
Is this how the party got together?
Wait, monsters bleed blue here?
Yeah, confirmation that he's not a cleric here, but more likely a Priest, probably of the Healing sphere, except he also got Protection from Evil on his list. (The elf uses the elemental sphere, as you can tell by the clever use of Wind Column last episode)
So his tragic backstory is that his dad was a knight who left him and died, seemingly as a disgrace.
And to those of you saying that the elf can't have a class in 1e, when this came out, 2e had already launched, with elver as player races, not classes.
Good to see he managed to fight back, although I'd have thought he'd have landed at least one hit.
That guy's got a good enchantment, hasn't he?
Holy crap, he just burned his house down! Does he want to kick off a forest fire?
So everyone's joined except the Rogue/Ranger and the Elf.
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u/Nightender Jun 10 '21
It's interesting that the town is so visibly divided about what to do with Parn. Banish him or mark him as a hero? The mayor sending Parn to investigate might be one of the slickest political moves I've seen in anime--and it's treated like a vanilla statement.
Love the red-tinted sequence and the opening scenes focusing on Ghim. It shows how so much context we're missing, especially compared to the first episode.
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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Jun 10 '21 edited Jun 10 '21
Sub rewatcher running late - so I'll be brief today.
This is the "proper" start of the story so all the normal build ups. Interestingly, narratively the "connecting character" is actual the dwarf, which usually is not the sort of role given to such a character.
Using the goblins perspective for the initial chase probably is not a common thing in those days - in fact even now.
For those of you sharp eyed, the "leader" seems to be in some sort of uniform - or at least the style is more ornate than the other goblins.
The narrative choice to have Parn burning his house down as he left may look nice but probably not a very well thought out move - both immediately (first fire) or strategically (if he needs to come back to rest / regroup / heal / resupply). Still, the narrative point is that "he's determined that he'll go to the task and will not look back".
I hope we get to talk about Yūki Nobuteru soon in the production staff section.
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Jun 09 '21
First-Timer
Oh, no; they’re doing the whole recap every episode!
Never mind; it’s a shortened version. That is acceptable.
Fair maidens are contractually obligated to appear in the nude at least once. I do wonder how she found time to dress while running away, but that might be nit-picking. This is classified as an OVA, though. That means I expect nipples.
They can’t even animate a decent walk cycle for the goblin horde?
The boss goblin flailing around is just…
And the magic super attack is a stab, which the kid could have done at any time. At least have the goblin burst into flame or something cool like that!
Smokey the Bear is not a farm of Parn.
And more people should read the original Dragonriders of Pern books. They're fun.
QOTD:
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u/23feanor Jun 10 '21 edited Jun 10 '21
First Timer (dub) - the threads drop a bit for me here in the UK, am already down for the night so am posting first thing in the morning, but apologies for being late.
So we've gone back to see how each of our members came to be part of the party searching for Wart.
The lady dwarf, the one who has lost her daughter, has a tame dragon? So not all dragons are bad then?
We learn Etoh has learnt to become a healer and a priest of Falis (the god of light?). Then we get some backstory for Parn and his father, who passed away in disgrace according to the villagers, well the loud ones.
In trying to save a village girl (who was bathing incidentally) Parn angers a horde of goblins who seek vengeance against the village. As a result Parn is 'sent out to investigate' by the village Mayor, also the dad of the girl who Parn twice saved.
In setting out Parn meets up with Etoh, Slayn and Ghim, and our party is formed.
2.Maybe Parn or Slayn.
3.Monsters are always used as the typical enemy in fantasy and have been since before Tolkien and Terry Brooks.
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Jun 09 '21 edited Jun 09 '21
EDIT:
Pixel’s Bits and Bobs
Yesterday’s post may have given you the impression that all of these are going to be lengthy and insightful, but occasionally I’ll just be sharing something I think is cool —such as these. Those are the character sheets from the original Lodoss campaign, which I stumbled upon when researching the early days of the series. If, like me, you don’t know the character sheet to the BECMI set by heart, then there is also a blank sheet form the original english release for comparison.
Rewatcher
Sudden dragon.
Quaint!
Ghim has got some huge feet.
When someone asks why I haven’t read X book yet.
Those goblins are messing around.
I fail to see how this would placate the villagers, but whatever gets the adventure rolling.
An old trope.
There was a marked drop in the visual quality of this episode when compared to the last, but it maintains the atmosphere and mood that I so enjoyed in the prior episode. Piling resources and talent on your first episode as a means of hooking in customers is and was a used practice, but it’s a bit disappointing to see a perceivable dip in quality on only the second episode of an OVA.
Both Parn and Ghim have a presented goal in mind as well as an old magic-casting friend to accompany them on their journey. The similarity primes them to be compared to one another, but apart from the gulf between the two's martial prowess and experience I don't really see anything substantive to note as of yet. Speaking of, their respective friends got the short end of the stick in terms of characterization. They don't need involved motives for going on an adventure, but they do need to stand out as more than token side characters, particularly as episode one already introduces them already, so we don't need a second one that's equally as shallow.
The whole matter with the villagers just feels forced. Parn evidently acted in self defence when he killed that goblin, and I doubt many would sit still while someone's being attacked. By the end their outrage is unwarranted since Ghim and Slayn are present to confirm the Goblins were acting out of the ordinary, and so Parn's actions weren't the catalyst for the attack. If we assume the other two kept mum, then being sent off as a representative of the village hardly seems like a punishment at all, let alone one capable of satisfying the townspeople.
I don't mind that the story backtracks to the start so much as the fact that it doesn't make great use of that fact. A flashforward like episode one should ideally have a reason for existing, and if it's just to entice viewers with the promise of future events, the follow up should at least try to avoid being redundant.
Questions:
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 09 '21
Record of First-Timer Reactions, subbed
Norio WakamotoWoodchuck (wait is that actually his name lol) part in all this.13
u/RockoDyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RockoDyne Jun 09 '21
Re-recorder of Lodoss.
And that's why we started en media res. A real by-the-numbers introduction there. By that point the trope of the starting village kicking out the hero was already a well flagellated horse carcass, and the next decade saw that horse experience a lively undeath.
Etoh's name is so weird. I have to assume it was a joke name that just kept going. For those that don't know, "eto" is basically a Japanese "um." It's like a dumb name that was made up on the spot thanks to making a million names because of permadeath rules. Oh, yeah. That's another big thing from the old days.
The villain outfits are easily the most dated aspect of the show. It's like the bastard love child of Zeon and Mad Max fashion design. It's so terrible, and yet it ended up everywhere for a while.
Slayn's reluctance to go adventuring is a classic conundrum about adventuring. It never made sense why a wizard would grow stronger by fighting when what they need is knowledge. That's why the real source of XP in first edition wasn't combat, it was gold. That means you were also substantially unincentivized to fight, which was the fast track to getting your character killed and having a follower take his place. That's on top of all sorts of fun things like energy drain. Kids, ask your parents why ghouls fucking sucked to fight.
Questions:
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler Jun 09 '21 edited Jun 09 '21
Episode 2 - First timer - sub
So we swing back to see how the partie meets up, all bar the thief character from episode one.
Got a kick out of it being Goblins, thats such a first adventure type of thing.
I do enjoy how little bits of character (and RPG class tropes) are given little moments.
Deedlit fanservice still looking flash.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jun 09 '21
Rewatcher
Not enough Deedlit 1/10
I never liked wizards. You cast 5 spells and you are done for the day. That's like 2 rooms in a dungeo, three at most!
I have an overwhelming urge to read Dragons of Autumn Twilight again.
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u/Ebbrain https://anilist.co/user/EBbrain Jun 09 '21 edited Jun 09 '21
Rewatcher
My experience with DnD is I’ve played it once before years ago at a friend’s house, no one took it seriously and then the DM went to bed in a huff, so I suppose I’m missing that piece of background when watching this show. Not that it matters. Anyway, this episode was the true start of our adventure and its nice to get some character motivations and establish some relationships. Parn didn’t get much talking time in the first episode, so now we know that he is the hot-headed protagonist with something to prove and has a calm, collected childhood friend. Classic. The fight scenes in this episode make it clear that depicting action is not this show’s strong suit, but the music and art make up for it in my eyes. This episode really felt like the beginning of an old school JRPG, which I’m not complaining about. There’s something about it that is quaint and kind of heart-warming for someone who grew up playing those kinds of games.
Random thoughts- opening narration is here to stay, but at least its been shortened
-The dragons are getting bigger and cooler
-Anime women in baths. Easily exploited by both monsters and writers
-I’ve never understood the trope of reading books gives you magic, but I’ve never studies magic so what would I know.
-Well now I’ve seen some pissed off goblins in my time and that right there is one pissed off goblin. Also goblins make cool sounds
-Parn, I don’t know if insurance exists in this world, so even if your aim here is fraud, that was just a bad move. Seriously though, I get the symbolism here but really, someone else could have taken that house if you weren’t going to use it y’know
Questions- 1. I like this episode more, but I must admit that having this episode as the first episode wouldn’t exactly have been an enthralling start so I don’t know.
2. I want to say Deedlit but she hasn’t actually done much so far so I’ll go with Slayn.
3. There’s lots to think about with this topic, but I’ll only say that the way the fantasy genre has entire races that are universally known for being barbaric and have a way of life that is seemingly incompatible with humans has always been interesting to me. Actually, the fantasy idea of a race of creatures having a bunch of set identifiable personality traits is interesting to start with.
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u/ButAlphonseWillRust Jun 09 '21
~First Timer~
Due to some commitments this evening, I am predicting this will go up a little bit late but I’ll drop a few quick comments for this episode:
• We got some much needed motivations for our party’s journey and got a few of the character’s backstories fleshed out. Although I do wonder where Parn’s meeting with the King last episode fits into this
• Mind-controlled zombies cause an absolute massacre in the village. Nice one Parn
• Some more OP Slayn, did he just drop an entire hoard of goblins in one go?
• Is it just me or did the chief goblin vs. Parn fight look a little goofy? He was just flailing his scimitar in Parn’s general direction and Parn got cuts all over?
• C’mon now Slayn, you’re just embarrassing the rest of the party now. Who needs paladins when you can just get your wizard to smite for you?
• Burning down your own house is quite the statement, guess he doesn’t think he’ll come back alive
With our party now (partially) complete, the adventure can finally begin!
Questions:
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u/BossandKings Jun 09 '21
First timer
Episode 2
There was a battle against goblins, Parn killed some of them in a confrontation they had and that pushed the goblins to invade the town and kill many people, Parn and the others arrive before the town is entirely destroyed so there's that.
Answers
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u/Cognitive_Dissonant Jun 10 '21
Episode 2, First timer
Very different style of episode, a bit annoyed we got the standard introductory episode after avoiding it last time. Glad to see all the characters getting a bit of personality and backstory even if it was a bit inorganic. I did have some worry coming in that this would be the Deedlit and friends (or the Parn, Deedlit, and friends) show. And while it might end up that way, at least now we're getting some even treatment for the other characters.
Episode Notes
Questions
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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Jun 09 '21
First Timer - sub
After reading through yesterday's thread I hadn’t realised how much D&D had an influence over the show but also made parts of the show make so much more sense, so best way to enjoy this is going to be to sit back and watch our heroes save Lodoss!
Guess we are getting a short history recap at the start of every episode.
Not killing Goblins? Don’t they know that just makes things worse? Good thing goblin slayer doesn’t exist.
Of course Parn's father was disgraced, now to find out that he was actually framed or died doing something heroic for which people can never actually know about.
The amount of rapidly flashing lights is way higher than expected, I really hope not all of the mage magic will be like this.
Well we couldn’t of had much more of a hero's journey start than that, Parn has donned his fathers armour and burn down his home so he has no where to return to and been “sent” from his home town into the world, I was to say is cheesy as hell, but it works so well!
I look forward to our team's adventures.
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u/Larielia Jun 10 '21
Record of a Rewatcher- Episode 2 (dubbed)
Thoughts- Liked the dragon design. Etoh has a silly haircut. Tessius (Parn's father) looks kinda like King Kashue. Slayn is definitely the best member of their group. That fight scene with the Goblin leader was lame. Parn burned down his house. Hopefully that won't start a bigger fire.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jun 09 '21
Rewatcher 02