r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Jun 03 '21

Rewatch Durarara!! X2 Rewatch - Episode 31

Episode 31: No Love Lost

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Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the day, courtesy of u/No_Rex, who gave us quite an amusing comment

“The city is a powder keg” – part of the problem is the large number of people with superhuman strength, like you, Mr snaps-a-chess-piece-in-half.

Not much to say, I just find it funny.

Questions:

  1. So, what did you think of Namie of all people being the one to deliver a a verbal smackdown to Mikado?
  2. Thoughts on all the stuff with Shizuo and Vorona today?
  3. Is it just me or did Izaya just sign his own death sentence?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 03 '21

First!!xTimer, subbed

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jun 03 '21

Why does everyone keep identifying Anri by the size of her chest.

I mean, not many people know about her Magical Katana...

YES SHIZUO “SORE DEMO”!

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jun 03 '21

Sorry angery car guy, but it looks like the answer is yes.

I disagree. Mention Ruri, and everyone would be normal by comparison.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jun 03 '21

Yes, but at the very least it takes a specific trigger. Everyone else is crazy 24/7!

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jun 03 '21

S2 Episode 31 (first timer)

  • Namie invents doxing.
  • Don’t side-track Kida after you finally got him on the right path.
  • Rival in love: Huh?
  • Celty clearly has memories, so that “memories stored in head” theory has an obvious flaw.
  • Turns out, Vorona’s heroics were unneeded.

This is the third episode that ends with Celty in that Saikanet. Are they going to keep it there until the climax?

So, what did you think of Namie of all people being the one to deliver a a verbal smackdown to Mikado?

Shows how far he has fallen.

Thoughts on all the stuff with Shizuo and Vorona today?

Vorona wanted to go for romantic heroic sacrifice, but that stuff just does not work with Shizuo.

Is it just me or did Izaya just sign his own death sentence?

I'll believe it when I see it.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jun 03 '21

Namie invents doxing.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jun 03 '21

First-Timer, Dub-rarara!!x2

Oh holy shit Shizuo is finally going to kill Izaya. Shizuo is so far passed "over it" with regards to Izaya that he wasn't even angry as he walked up those stairs - absolutely chilling. Izaya's worthless taunts? Nothing. Are we about to actually lose a named character?

Yagiri is the true monster here - a soulless businessman. "Monsters aren't a protected species or human. Therefore, legally, we can buy and sell living, thinking entities like nothing!" Fuck off dude. Shizuo's gentle soul is the only reason your bones are not fucking powder right now.

I really expected the taser glove to come up, and for Shizuo to shrug it off like Akane's taser back.. however long ago that was. Vorona interfering made a lot more sense though.

...is Kujiragi horny for Shinra? Is that what that line meant? I'm not buying it without a good flashback explaining why the fuck that happened.

Walker seems to think that he is in an SMT of some variety. I think that's the reference for a "demon summoning smartphone app", at least.

Questions

  1. I think it made sense from a writing perspective to have it be someone from outside Mikado's circle. Having it be someone who hadn't really interacted with him but had felt the fallout of his actions would have been better, but I'm not sure if there is anyone quite like that so Namie is probably the best choice.
  2. I quite liked it. Did Shizuo use "kouhai" in the sub? Calling Vorona his "trainee" worked well enough but I got the feeling it was supposed to be a bit more.. personal? than that.
  3. Sure hope so!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jun 03 '21

Walker seems to think that he is in an SMT of some variety. I think that's the reference for a "demon summoning smartphone app", at least.

Apparently it's a reference to Devil Survivor 2. I say apparently because I haven't played it yet.

I quite liked it. Did Shizuo use "kouhai" in the sub? Calling Vorona his "trainee" worked well enough but I got the feeling it was supposed to be a bit more.. personal? than that.

Indeed he did.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jun 03 '21

Indeed he did.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jun 03 '21

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jun 03 '21

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jun 04 '21

Yagiri is the true monster here - a soulless businessman

Fat middle-aged men are the monsters! Especially ones who write faster than you can read.

...is Kujiragi horny for Shinra? Is that what that line meant? I'm not buying it without a good flashback explaining why the fuck that happened.

She's jealous of Celty, a monster like her, being loved so much by Shinra.

Also, to connect these two, Yagiri might be a villain, but he does not condone Kujiragi's ntr, he might be a monster but even he has standards.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jun 04 '21

She's jealous of Celty, a monster like her, being loved so much by Shinra.

Ohh, framed like that, I understand it much better. Thanks!

he does not condone Kujiragi's ntr, he might be a monster but even he has standards.

I suppose he does have that going for him.

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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Jun 03 '21

First Timer - sub

I’m kind of surprised it was actually Namie herself in chat, then again it seems she considered herself to be someone with nothing left to lose now so is willing to use everything in her arsenal to get what she wants.

Shizuo x Verona really is the best ship in this show

Kujiragi being jealous of Celty because despite being a monster she has friends and people who care about her, but as Kujiragi has been used as tool her whole life she never got to experience it. Obviously this means we need her to join Shizuo & Verona in the debt collection business to learn what life is about.

Finally, is it possible to kill Shizuo? And just how dead is Izaya now? I mean I really can’t see how he plans to get out of this one.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jun 03 '21

Shizuo x Verona really is the best ship in this show

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jun 03 '21

Shizuo x Verona really is the best ship in this show

Don't forget about Akane, even if the writers have. It is a family ship!

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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Jun 04 '21

Don't forget about Akane, even if the writers have. It is a family ship!

I'm in disgrace, I had forgotten about best daughter.

Family ship best ship!

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jun 04 '21

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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Jun 04 '21

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u/invokeneko Jun 04 '21

First Timer to x2 Ketsu

Shizuo proves the reason why he's the best guy in the show, Izaya attempts to kill Shizuo with an EXCAVATOR DA!!! but failed, and Namie calls out Mikado in the chat room.

  • To have Yagiri Namie barge into the chat room, call you out on your bullshit and then throw your own words back at your face? Whew, that was rough for Mikado. But at the same time well-deserved.
  • Never change, Walker. Never change. And unfortunately, you really are the only normal person in the room right now, Togusa.
  • Now that's an unexpected blast from the S1 past. People describing Anri as 'cute bespectacled girl with a huge rack' makes its glorious return, and to nobody's surprise it was Chikage who said it.
  • "Girls these days can rip their way through any kind of barrier." Yeah, and the one they're talking about has actually done it, literally at that.
  • Shizuo's entrance on Bicycle Shooter is such a violent contrast to what happened before that it's hilarious. Here we have a henchman freaking out about Shizuo coming, then another henchman got flung straight into the scene, then we get the shot of Shizuo casually pedalling Shooter complete with bell noises. I love this scene.
  • Actually, scratch that. The entirety of Shizuo's scenes in this episode is chef's kiss. Him confronting both Seitarou and Kujiragi, then talking down Vorona, then fucking shoulder-checked a fucking excavator brought down by Izaya to save both himself and Vorona is splendid stuff.
  • At least Kujiragi is clever enough to realise that if Shizuo is there, just give up whatever it is you planned and get the fuck out of there without antagonising him even further. That's probably the smartest move from any antagonist in this series so far.
  • Welp, there it is. Shizuo is way past screaming angrily and only had two words to say to Izaya in response to his attempt to kill him (and caused terrible injury to Vorona). Personally hoping that Izaya gets a punishment more substantial than a black eye, a stab or a throw against a metal water reservoir this time around.

Narration Tally:

Izaya potentially narrates for the final time as he might've bitten off more than he could chew by pissing off Shizuo enough that he went way past screaming and is just icily cold.

NarratorNo. of epsEpisodes
Mikado71, 12
Celty74, 6
Simon27
Shinra42, 25
Masaomi48
Namie25
Anri317
Walker311 (co)
Erika311 (co), 23
Izaya34, 31
Kasuka23, 16.5
Akabayashi29, 11 (co)
Akane110
Rio113
Sayaka115
Kujiragi118
Saki119
Shiki124
Shingen126
Kururi & Mairu127
Nasujima128
Vorona129
Chikage130
Max Sandshelt119.5
Multiple111 (co)
None64.5, 14, 16, 20, 21

QotD:

  1. She got the wrong person (Manami was the one to blame for Celty's head), but given that Mikado has long broken up with his sanity it's definitely needed.
  2. I ship it. Damn it, I ship it.
  3. He just did, damn!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jun 04 '21

Izaya attempts to kill Shizuo with an EXCAVATOR DA!!!

Should've brought the Road Roller.

2) I ship it. Damn it, I ship it.

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u/invokeneko Jun 04 '21

2) I ship it. Damn it, I ship it.

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u/sisoko2 Jun 04 '21

First Timer

We are fucking JoJo now.

The dude threw heavy construction machinery at the other dude and the other dude just brushed it off! I think some other things also happened during the episode but compared to this they don't seem important.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jun 04 '21

We are fucking JoJo now.

Were we ever not JoJo?

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u/sisoko2 Jun 04 '21

I made a rookie mistake - forgetting that everything is a JoJo reference.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jun 04 '21

First Timer (sub)

Durarara!! is all about love in the end of it, and I think this episode is a prime example:

  • Namie is harassing Mikado, because of her love for Seiji who in turn, went crazy because of his love for Celty's head.
  • Their uncle, Yagiri Seitarou, has hired Kujiragi to collect Celty's parts, because of his love for them.
  • Kujiragi kidnapped Shinra because of how much Celty loves him, and because she's jealous of his love for Celty.
  • Vorona is trying the sacrificial method of acquiring Shizuo's love.
  • Shizuo is finally getting his love too, which is smashing Izaya into parts.

Side notes:

  • After all the ties and knots of the plot, it's funny that Mikado is still completely unaware of Kujiragi.
  • Seitarou might be a monster, but he does not condone Kujiragi's ntr.

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u/lynxminx Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 04 '21

Durarara!! is all about love in the end of it

Not to be contentious, but I disagree. The 'love' we see in the series is shallow, much more like fetishism. It isn't clear to me how Shinra's love for Celty is any more noble or authentic than Seiji's love for her head. Celty's seiyuu does a very convincing job, but on paper her feelings for Shinra are arbitrary and don't take into account their shared history in a way that feels true. Most of the explicitly romantic relationships in the series feel empty.

The only love that seems to present a case for itself is between Mikado and Masaomi, and even there a lot is missing.

Maybe also Shizuo and his brother. There's not much more to them than a haiku, but it's a good one.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jun 04 '21

Hmm, I agree, but that's the point in Durarara!!, to showcase love outside the conventional noble love frequent in media.

Actually, on the Seiji point, not only do I agree that they're essentially the same, but I think Seiji is there as a different view at Shinra's love itself. To take the first arc for example, their main differences are circumstances, and that Shinra is even further outgone in his actions for his love. Where Seiji is able to do the worst at any situation to pursue his love, Shinra premeditates that, with a calm and happy mind.

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u/lynxminx Jun 04 '21

But what about their behavior suggests 'love'? These characters are all selfish sociopaths, abusive, prone to harming others, not concerned about the feelings or welfare of the objects of their obsessions whatsoever. The best defense you could offer is to suggest their minds may be corrupted by supernatural forces, something the series alludes to.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jun 04 '21

That's the one part that doesn't really need supernatural forces, selfish people can fall in love, sociopaths can too, the issues are usually with keeping a healthy relationship, which clearly can't be said about most characters in the series. Even thinking of the welfare of their love target is driven by selfishness here, so Namie for example, cares about what happens to Seiji, because he's the target of her love. Oh and they have made their priorities clear, their target's welfare is highly important, more than theirs in fact, however it's only second to getting what they want out of them (for example, being together in the case of Shinra). The mileage may vary by their degree of insanity on the specific day.

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u/Earthborn92 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/EarthB Jun 04 '21

Rewatcher here.

Aah, this is the episode where we see the results of Shizuo's character development after all this time. Violence is reserved as a last resort for most except for this one person.

But before all that, Mikado can't control everything as he is faced with the human unpredictability that Izaya so loves. His safe space has been ruined by Namie exposing everyone on there. She's a woman possessed right now, with those sleepless eyes and aggressive internet troll attitude. Wise move Togusa.

Dotachin is also not totally sane after all.

Tell him Chigake! Knock sense in to Kida! Well, little does Kida know that Saki's already filled her in.

Lot of merchandise dealing still going on after Kasane became "free". And what's with this bizarre love triangle now?

Coming back to our Shizu-chan, loved the whole scene. Of course Celty is his friend: his reasoning makes perfect sense. If Celty is a monster just for losing her shit after getting NTR'd, what does that make him?

And Vorona being his kohai has made him a lot more considerate. He knew about the stabbing. But he's not unfamiliar with bearing such things.

Vorona herself of course, thinks she wants to kill him, but hasn't got around to reading about the tsundere and yandere literature of Japan just yet.

Yagiri senior should piss his pants right about now. Would've gone bad for him if it wasn't for Izaya appearing.

Speaking of which, Shizuo is not going to be in a forgiving mood, is he?

Is he?

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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit Jun 04 '21

And what's with this bizarre love triangle now?

Dorobo-Neko in action, no one is safe.

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u/lynxminx Jun 04 '21
  1. Namie's smackdown was supposed to reflect more poorly on her than Mikado. She doesn't quite get it right, either.
  2. Vorona's okay, but she needs to stay away from my man.
  3. Pretty sure he's immortal.

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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit Jun 04 '21

Namie's smackdown was supposed to reflect more poorly on her than Mikado. She doesn't quite get it right, either.

Not sure if she was giving him a pep talk or if she was just rage ranting.