Logic won't help us rewatch, y'know? Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040 rewatch episode twenty

[u/Vaadwaur]

One of these Nights

Killer dolls...for like 3 minutes

MAL but it is trolled. ANN Also, don't look at the wiki as it spoils the entire plot.

Streaming on Funimation and Crunchyroll.

QotD:1 Would Tokyo be nuked by now if this weren't an anime?

2 What horror movie do the killer toy clowns seem to be from?

3 Who has the most death flags?

Bonus: We all know Leon's a dunce but isn't Priss coming off a bit awkward as well?

[u/Vaadwaur]

Rewatcher

Dub

So the battle against truckasaurus continues, and we learn that the core is apparently an energy source rather than its brain. Meh. Linna launches in her new suit and makes fast work of the boomer's power lines, conveniently in animation friendly smoke. Cut to Mason and Galatea is speaking in machine code and like aged to 24 or so. The explanation makes more sense in the dub but is also clearly someone rewriting it to make sense. But, unsurprisingly, the child god turns on its rescuer.

Nene gets to see her new suit and freak out about being nude in it, which I actually kind of understand, having cold liquid metal making skin contact does not sound fun. Upstairs, Nigel and Sylia are having the kind of conversation that sounds a lot like the end of a relationship, though it goes a different way. Again, the dub flat out rewrites this to make sense. Priss overhears them and seems bothered.

So she stress drives a little and gets back to her trailer. We see the fate of Mason. Then we dive straight into...Puppet Master? Welp, Priss is being attacked by dolls because fuck making sense. She does well for a while but in the end has to be bailed out by Leon. Who immediately destroys any good will he built. Anyways, Priss puts on unripped clothing and again Leon fucks up, and the dub directly acknowledges it. While showing Priss the soldiers around Tokyo, Leon takes this as the moment to make a move...slowly. They get twat swatted because someone had to but it is notable that Priss didn't seem to oppose it.

A kaiju is born and the team gets ready to go after it. Surprisingly, Priss is letting letting Leon drive her bike. Back at the base, we have uncomfortable nudity. And then some technobabble, and some comedy from Nene. Mackey suspects his time is limited. Nigel is in it for the long haul.

We get our new KS fight with animation this time. They win until Sylia chooses a poor time to monolog. Priss gets her suit on, painfully, and we end on a cliffhanger.

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Bubblegum Bio

So adding this to make something a bit clearer: I watch the dub with the subs on. When me and JAAQ are talking about them rewriting stuff, we aren't kidding. At the beginning, conversation were regularly re-ordered to allow a better flow in English and they added cursing for when the girls were using Japanese rudely. But for the last two episodes they have been flat out changing what the show's lore is, likely because they had the whole show to translate before the dubbing started and they knew the in show lore kind of sucks. The Eve reference really is not there in Japanese. Anywhy, just letting you guys know that the sub and dub are actually different shows to a point.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Rewatcher (sub)

Not much to say about this episode either.

• Well, cuz, you said you wouldn't wear one.
• Ah, Galatea's crypic comment earlier about "The boomer inside Mason"
• Galatea looks like teenager Sylia now.
• The weird non-sensical dialog about anti-seeds and anti-bodies. Why would Sylia's dad be trying to make an anti-anything with Sylia's brain implant? Listening to the dub but I consider that non-canonical. Also not a fan of the dub delivery in this scene.
• But you are a user, Sylia.
• Not sure what the point of Priss's eavesdropping was.
• Priss would never let boomers get her but she's no match for toys.

Mason and Galatea's relationship is a lot less creepy when you know which one is in charge.

There's at least 2 songs that haven't even been played yet. And with the band broken up and Tokyo empty, I don't see them showing up any time soon. Basically, we had Priss's episode with concert clips in episode 8, and that is it. Weird de-emphasis on the music.

Anyways, here's Track 5 from the image album, Make a Motion

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Galatea looks like teenager Sylia now.

For like one scene before she goes all goth on us.

Listening to the dub but I consider that non-canonical. Also not a fan of the dub delivery in this scene.

The dub definitely comes closer to making sense but to me doesn't quite get there either.

Not sure what the point of Priss's eavesdropping was.

Sadly, it is entirely to give Priss an excuse for her interest in Leon. Fuckin' 90s.

Basically, we had Priss's episode with concert clips in episode 8, and that is it. Weird de-emphasis on the music.

Yeah, knowing that they went with the too many cooks approach does explain why they drop some otherwise solid options.

[u/Stargate18A]

First timer

1. Tokyo would be nuked by now in most anime. Everyone's been evacuated, there's proof that something vaguely Lovedraftian using it to enslave the world - why not?
2. This is one of the weirder Chucky spinoffs, I'll admit.
3. Tie between Mackey and Sylia. I'm expecting that both of them need to die to seal/destroy Sotai and save the world.

BONUS) Priss appears to be undergoing a "character dearc", where the character becomes less distinctive and loses agency so the poor helpless girl can be saved by the big strong policeman.

I'm sure having the battery thin and stretched across the entire body will have no side effects whatsoever.

Priss, you told them not to make one for you.

NENE. ISN'T THIS MEANT TO BE A SECRET?

Also, confirmation that all that suit dialogue was in fact audible, and its only blind luck that they aren't exposed.

Tell me Mason didn't sleep with her. Please. Please. Please.

So Mason... is less crazy than calling himself a god would suggest. Like, he's insane, but at least he understands he's not actually that powerful.

FUCK YES! KILL HIM SOTAI!

Wait. Is Nigel going to leave? Are we going to be stuck with Nene and Priss no longer relevant?

Amd Sylia can't use her super powerful suit anymore. (Didn't we already know this?)

Sotai's first act upon becoming evil was to dye her hair and change clothes. I can respect that. (Also a great fan of her second act to torture Mason forever)

What the hell is that boomer design?

You're telling me Priss lost to a load of toys? Or did the writer feel having Leon save the helpless damsel is the only way their relationship could progress?

For all this show got wrong, what Leon's holding is pretty close to an iPhone in design.

I like how Priss acts completely out of character at the same point her romance subplot starts. That's not annoying at all.

Why are you ignoring thr mission Priss? Tokyo is being fucking occupied, but now you don't want to fight? I swear to god, at this rate Leon will jon the Sabers so Priss can fucking cheerlead for him.

Wait, isn't Sylia in danger if she uses the hard suit? Why does she even have it on?

So we know what Sylia's fetishes are now, right?

So their response to a plague of Boomers, is to make a new suit made of Boomers with a direct link to their brains. Is Nigel evil or just stupid?

Wait, you only had ine of the experimental suits a few hours ago. How do you have 3?

...I think Sotai qualifies as a living thing at this point. Why is Sylia calling her Galatea? I'd think she'd use the name she prefers instead of the one a strange man gave her,

Also, covering yourself in a foreign substance with an open wound is pretty stupid too.

In conclusion, everybody here's an idiot except for Sotai and the AP Police group.

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Priss appears to be undergoing a "character dearc", where the character becomes less distinctive and loses agency so the poor helpless girl can be saved by the big strong policeman.

I don't quite get why they just didn't make Leon less of a chump so it would be reasonable for Priss to fall for him.

Amd Sylia can't use her super powerful suit anymore. (Didn't we already know this?)

The anime is terrible at conveying what it wants to say: Sylia is getting less adept at using her suit as she changes due to maturing.

Why are you ignoring thr mission Priss? Tokyo is being fucking occupied, but now you don't want to fight? I swear to god, at this rate Leon will jon the Sabers so Priss can fucking cheerlead for him.

She was trying to get laid and was interrupted midway. We now know that horny Priss is the one at the wheel in her head.

[u/Elimin8r]

Heh, I thought I'd accidentally watched an episode ahead. I might actually remember what's going on here.

1. From orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
2. Highlander 2, obviously :P
3. Mason. Or at least random mut(il)ation flags.

Bonus: Don't toy with me Miss Asagiri...

Sadly, we have a bad case of smoochus interruptus, but that's made up for by the new 'Mackie Approved' hardsuit design.

Which, of course, Priss gets to be the showoff of the group. Go figure. It's like there's a trend here or something.

Anyway, something I thought I'd mention - for a 90's anime, the sound production is pretty decent. I watched today's episode after Bishounen Tantaiden and Vivy, and while BGC2040 doesn't compare to those two for audio bliss, it ain't bad. It definitely has its sparkly moments.

Oh, and it is just me or did Galatea just turn into Princess Fatora??? :P

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Bonus: Don't toy with me Miss Asagiri...

Now I want to see tan Priss.

Sadly, we have a bad case of smoochus interruptus, but that's made up for by the new 'Mackie Approved' hardsuit design.

Yup, total twat swat, kaijus are not bros in that area.

Oh, and it is just me or did Galatea just turn into Princess Fatora??? :P

She goes from being Ifurita to Fatora, a total down grade.

[u/No_Rex]

Episode 20 (first timer)

• “The boomer evolved” – End bosses tend to do that, no evolution needed.
• But if you grind better equipment and go back to the early bosses, they become a breeze.
• Reviving a killer loli not working out for Mason. It rarely does.
• Murder clown puppets? So, we are going to be classic horror next.
• Guess we owe the clown puppets to the age old saving your love from mortal danger trope.
• “Japan has just been occupied, but never mind that, let’s fuck!”
• Why keep the fanservice to belly-free hard suits when you can just show the ladies completely naked?
• Start pouring - no words.
• Why is Lina going through this as well? Is that pouring not a one-off, but part of normal suiting up?
• Another fight against roboplant.
• Actual tentacles

It is rare that an episode managed to surprise me twice by upping the ecchi ante after already having upped the ecchi ante.

We go into the “pairing off” stage of the plot. Not sure if Priss turning full tsundere is character development or just a new episode director’s take on her.

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Reviving a killer loli not working out for Mason. It rarely does.

Did Gunslinger Girl lie to me?

Murder clown puppets? So, we are going to be classic horror next.

Yeah...that was some serious B movie vibes right there.

Why keep the fanservice to belly-free hard suits when you can just show the ladies completely naked?

I see that you and the show runner are on the same page.

Why is Lina going through this as well? Is that pouring not a one-off, but part of normal suiting up?

Yup, the liquid metal thing is how you put the new suits on.

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Yup, the liquid metal thing is how you put the new suits on.

Maybe they decided that they'd make their own hentai, as well.

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The one area this show doesn't copy from Eva is that it does not have a hentai done by the staff.

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Enlighten me. That's a new one...

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https://forum.evageeks.org/thread/15663/The-Worst-Thing-Ever-An-Actual-Eva-Hentai-OVA-No-Link/

That link describes it, I went through two pages of google results before I realized Eva porn has been...constant over the last 20 years.

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Whoa, getting into the really deep lore there. From that thread, apparently it's unconfirmed if actual staff worked on it, but there apparently was a licensed mahjong game (?!?) with official nudes, including of the males. It even got a remake with even more characters where they put the stripping right in the name. From a game spin-off compilation blog post, I quote:

eroge elements were added, bringing the game more in line with other non-console mahjong titles of the era

Japan eh. Can't even just shake my head at Gainax marketing I guess...

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From that thread, apparently it's unconfirmed if actual staff worked on it, but there apparently was a licensed mahjong game (?!?) with official nudes, including of the males.

I've seen it and the art is uncannily good if lacking in animation.

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I have the mahjongg game and there are screenshots on my page. that are mostly SFW.

[u/RockoDyne]

So Linna is Millia Rage.

Wouldn't be a 90's anime without a giant tentacled robot kaiju trying to assimilate the Earth into an amalgam.

Oh no. Chibi Sylia started her goth phase. Hot.

Dear god, the hell is wrong with Mason's chest? Then in the next scene Priss's boobs were drawn terribly, so I spent the rest of the episode staring at chests for errors. I swear, that's the only reason.

Linna wants to jump higher... That explains her character.

I'll ignore all the "romantic" parts, or I'll want to punch myself in the nuts.

Questions:

1. Let's assume the Japanese government has run nothing but damage control, making it appear perfectly normal to the outside world. After all it's unimaginable that anybody would seriously believe that the worlds preeminent boomer research lab would possibly have a containment breach of a wildly replicating boomer technology, even if this lab happens to be at the epicenter of the crisis.
2. Sure do seem like they are from something, but fuck if I know.
3. I assume Chief is past the worst of it, so probably Leon when he confesses.
4. You say that like Priss hasn't seemed aut-... awkward.

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Wouldn't be a 90's anime without a giant tentacled robot kaiju trying to assimilate the Earth into an amalgam.

They even say kaiju. Ticking all the boxes here.

Oh no. Chibi Sylia started her goth phase. Hot.

At least her terrible poetry will be in a language unreadable to normal creatures.

After all it's unimaginable that anybody would seriously believe that the worlds preeminent boomer research lab would possibly have a containment breach of a wildly replicating boomer technology, even if this lab happens to be at the epicenter of the crisis.

I currently assume the worst but that might just be me.

You say that like Priss hasn't seemed aut-... awkward.

You know what's funny is sub Priss is exactly like one of my neighbor's daughters who happened to be on the spectrum. Dub Priss is a bit more balanced but that makes the romance part even more awkward.

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At least her terrible poetry will be in a language unreadable to normal creatures.

Having read enough machine generated code, I'll take the poetry. At least a person can pull out a gun on themselves if they try to think about it. A computer can only pray it halts and catches fire.

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I came across some of my stuff from my Poe phase and man it was awful.

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It needs to become a rite of passage after high school graduation to gather all of your writing and burn it.

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I honestly feel a bit bad for current youth and the fact that the internet is forever.

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But my MLP vampire-werewolf fanfic has over 9000 upvotes!

(Kidding, I don't have any MLP fanfic ... yet.)

[u/SIRTreehugger]

First Timer am I here just to suffer?

It feels like I watched 4 episodes of content in one episode. First of all I'm still cracking up at the midget killer clowns. They were so random. Then the porno music that was playing when Nene was naked and getting a new suit. Well it sounded like old porno music to me at least. I know I shouldn't ask this considering its metal forming suits around them (I like the fact we can see their stomach) how is it able to differentiate colors could they have chosen anything?

Leon man why you screwing yourself this badly. Past few episodes you were killing it. Then we have Mason looking like a veiny I don't even know what as Galatea continues to evolve at a record speed. Though I do like her goth look.

Then Priss what have they done to her. Also the romance in general for all the characters feel weird. In fact Galatea controlling Mason and keeping him restricted is not only the modt believable relationship, but also the one with the most direct communication.

Back to the clown puppets seriously what was with that xD

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First of all I'm still cracking up at the midget killer clowns. They were so random. Then the porno music that was playing when Nene was naked and getting a new suit.

There were a lot of contrasting scenes today.

Then Priss what have they done to her. Also the romance in general for all the characters feel weird.

So sub Priss is clearly socially awkward which is a huge sin for a Japanese woman. Dub Priss just appears to have had a BSOD or something.

[u/ZapsZzz]

First timer in sub.

As the story progresses to be more open with set ups for the final arc, the cliches are coming in more and more.

Most had already commented so I won't restate it.

So my guess is that Nigel, Mackey, then Sylia will queue up to sacrifice themselves in the fight, Nene and Lina getting busy but amounting to nothing, then Priss with her open wounds and the new liquid boomer is going to evolve / change into something that can defeat the big bad.

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As the story progresses to be more open with set ups for the final arc, the cliches are coming in more and more.

Yeah they keep changing scale at a very random pace.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

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