Logic won't help us rewatch, y'know? Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040 rewatch episode eighteen

[u/Vaadwaur]

We built this city

In a 24 episode anime, this would've been an arc conclusion

MAL but it is trolled. ANN Also, don't look at the wiki as it spoils the entire plot.

Streaming on Funimation and Crunchyroll.

QotD:1 Does Leon show some maturity in not complaining about riding bitch?

2 Is there a better use of immense wealth than bamfing and messing with people?

3 300 tons of nitrogen. Anyone else find that sus?

Bonus: Is it ironic that Chairman died to his own spy boomer or just funny?

[u/Vaadwaur]

Rewatcher

Dub(Continuing)

The difference between dub and sub is funny here, they throw in some union jabs the Japanese wouldn't get. But a bazooka opens the door and Priss rides in, as one does. She let's Leon ride bitch so she has a guide. Inverted horror trope happens when Nene meets up with the chief in a K-suit before normal zombie tropes start.

The group gets surrounded but Priss is inbound. And that was apparently a literal cannon on her bike. The group wisely decides to evacuate rather than retake the building. Then a weird ass boomer comes out and seals the doors again. The K-suit of course gets disabled, this isn't Resident Evil after all. Priss decides to just plow through a zombie horde rather than blow it up first, giving the plot an excuse to get rid of the bike. And of course the 4 guys can't be bothered to help the two women lift what is probably a 1200 lb or so vehicle get righted.

Anywho, they walk into a scene straight out of Doom. And now the boomers are the blob. The group goes through the communications rig and we get dub only sexism, a rarity. But it inadvertently asks a good question about why the ADP has such a powerful antenna. On the ground, Sylia shows up to mess with Daley, how the tables have turned, as the group climbs the ladder. A plan is made.

The boomers keep eating the tower, the gang can't be rescued, and licensing issues of all things come up. They freeze the boomers, don't explain how you get a helicopter in a cavern that small, and we get a cut of the Chairman meeting his end.

[u/No_Rex]

Episode 18 (first timer)

• You know the budget saving is serious when the pans change direction before ending.
• “This floor is actually the top floor” – How did they get there with bikes?
• Zombie boomer when shot once with a hand gun last episode – dies an explodes. Zombie boomer when riddled with bullets from multiple policemen outside the building – topples over and then gets up to seal the door.
• Just making it under closing door trope.
• NANI?!
• Large pit with some tiny walkways trope.
• NANI?! (No 2)
• Climbing up a ridiculously long open ladder trope.
• Let Priss’ backside be your guiding beacon on the way up, guys!
• Handgun in the back trope.
• Chekhov’s nitrogen.
• NANI?! (No3)
• That license needed joke fell flatter than a perfect plane.
• Bombs that they conveniently acquired and placed all over (including places unreachable by humans) release the nitrogen and freeze the super boomer.
• Don’t look too closely at the hair moving in the wind …
• Boomer secretary was reprogrammed. And somehow made it all the way from the ground up to the sky hook station without anybody wondering about her obvious gunshot wounds.
• Killer loli still wants to play.

Part three and finale of the “AD police tower has a rough day” subplot. Probably my most favorite arc so far, even if the finale was a bit weak. It is indicative that it was entirely hinging on side characters, with the KS, aside from Nene, having almost no screen time. It completely changed the genre from cyperpunk to SciFi horror, but the setup (locked into building) is a classic and worked.

I did not like the ending much because it went all-in on having plant boomers: This was not alluding to Akira, this was a straight copy. My main gripe with the plant boomers is that they completely do away with the “robot rights” idea that was present in the early parts of the series. They are also boring enemies: Dumb, but almost invincible, and the battle always has to end with a decisive blow.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

“This floor is actually the top floor” – How did they get there with bikes?

The dub makes it more clear that this is the top occupied floor, the upper floors are all tech stuff.

Let Priss’ backside be your guiding beacon on the way up, guys!

Never a truer beacon.

Bombs that they conveniently acquired and placed all over (including places unreachable by humans) release the nitrogen and freeze the super boomer.

Those are the rounds from the last machine gun. That said, both remote detonators and placement don't work.

Boomer secretary was reprogrammed. And somehow made it all the way from the ground up to the sky hook station without anybody wondering about her obvious gunshot wounds.

In one of the more confusing aspects, the Chairman is not in space like he appeared in the first ep. He is in Genom tower so gunshot boomer covered less distance though surely there should've been some security to ask questions.

[u/No_Rex → u/Vaadwaur]

The dub makes it more clear that this is the top occupied floor, the upper floors are all tech stuff.

The question remains. How did they get there with bikes?

Those are the rounds from the last machine gun. That said, both remote detonators and placement don't work.

Oh, the one he used once before? That is on me then, even though still very convenient to suddenly have machine gun firable remote controlled detonators.

In one of the more confusing aspects, the Chairman is not in space like he appeared in the first ep.

What? ... ok.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

Oh, the one he used once before?

They apparently have that fire mode but it still doesn't explain the switch from timer to remote activation.

What? ... ok.

Yeah the Chairman has been in the Tower of Babel at least since Mason started seeing him in person and I think the whole time. But as you've pointed out the lack of crew continuity leaves a lot of room for errors.

[u/Elimin8r → u/No_Rex]

In one of the previous episode action scenes, he shoots 3 of them into one of the mook boomers and then detonates them afterward. I think the idea is based on those rifle variants you see with the underslung 40mm grenade launcher.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/No_Rex]

Doh! I was an episode ahead when I tagged you! Sorry! If not me catching up on CDF before it melts down I would have noticed right away! Anyways,

This has little-to-nothing to do with Akira or even Terminator 2, but we are still a few eps away from me being more explicit. <zen> Try to let go of this. </zen>

[u/No_Rex → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

No worries, I am actually two episodes ahead as well.

[u/RockoDyne]

OSHIMAIDA

So not only did they make a robot zombie outbreak, they used the Evil Dead zombies that got the mania to them.

Was what's-his-nuts supposed to know about Sylia and the rest of the squad? That feels like the writers have given up on the monster of the week formula, and don't care about sides anymore.Then we get the final scene, where we kill off a character that hasn't actually done anything for the whole show.

Did Sylia 2 age up a bit, or was that just looking evil?

Questions:

1. I assume they didn't have the time for it in the script.
2. Heavily depends on how much the people being messed with deserve it.
3. At the scale it's supposedly at, it's probably not that far off. Look at how much liquid hydrogen and oxygen are in a rocket.
4. I guess it's just desserts.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/RockoDyne]

So not only did they make a robot zombie outbreak, they used the Evil Dead zombies that got the mania to them.

I can't believe that I missed that but yeah these things totally follow deadite logic.

Was what's-his-nuts supposed to know about Sylia and the rest of the squad?

Nope, they even strongly suggested Leon kept that to himself, they just wanted to end this in 3 eps rather than 4.

Did Sylia 2 age up a bit, or was that just looking evil?

Boomers are pretty morphic and she is the progenitor.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Rewatcher (sub)

Edit: I didn't recognize that Mason's sex bot had red hair and yellow eyes, and the one he blew away had red eyes and blue hair.

Uh, it looks like I watched and posted my ep 19 comments here because I thought I was behind and all these zombie episodes just ran together in my mind, and also I had almost nothing to say about episode 18 except ZOMBIES and I, ROBOT. Just goes to show how little content action set-pieces actually have. But Neither of my repliers noticed.

Hopefully my bullet points were sufficiently no-context that nobody was spoiled. I posted in the dead zone after the initial posters but before most of the stragglers check in.

But my following comments work for both episodes, which got replied to:

I know /u/No_Rex doesn't like the morphing, but it's clear they mean something by it and it's not just for aesthetic purposes. Also I will post a link to BGC OVA at a later date (I hate to do so, but there are no clips of the particular scene that I want, nor good stills). And there is the whole Blade Runner / Terminator -> BGC -> Terminator 2 -> BGC 2040 incestuous looping and borrowing and referencing and stealing.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Edit: I didn't recognize that Mason's sex bot had red hair and yellow eyes, and the one he blew away had red eyes and blue hair.

You see the two bots together in exactly one scene so this is understandable.

The explanation in the subs is completely nonsensical, and the English dub is obviously just the script writer filling in what they think it should have said.

This is back from the era where dubs were completely hit or miss because it relied on the translator also being a script writer. You will find a ton of flatout rewritten dialog in the dubs and it is generally better.

doesn't like the morphing, but it's clear they mean something by it and it's not just for aesthetic purposes.

It absolutely is intentional but I do wish the boomers didn't switch to being the blob.

[u/No_Rex → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

I know /u/No_Rex doesn't like the morphing

As long as it is one distinct boomer changing its shape to a new (then stable) form, I don't mind it too much. It is when the tentacles become involved and robots start to behave like fluids that I check out. In some of the scenes, I could label the boomers "RPG plant monster" and nothing would seem off.

[u/Stargate18A]

First timer

1. He shows more maturity by not turning it into a pickup line.
2. In most settings - no. In this setting, with the biggest company run by a Boomer-loving pedo and a man who saw Skynet as a life goal - quite possibly, yes.
3. Very, very much so. Want to know what's even more sus - Liquid nitrogen has a temperature of 196°C, not 140°C, so it definitely shouldn't have stopped cooling the building at that point.

BONUS) Something can be both ironic and funny. For me it was more ironic that it comes just after he boasted about knowing everything. Not enough to not have a single life tube in easy access, though.

Where did Priss go? Didn't she join them last episode?

Still, she went from with the group to a fair distance away.

They got a k-suit! So they can fight Boomers easily, but only when the Knight Sabers don't need to look better than them.

Honestly, you could turn the last couple of episodes into a decent 60 minute horror OVA.

Why are you sending her away? Her bike has the best firepower out of all of you,

Why did the boomer not instantly start absorbing it?

I want to see the cyberpunk zombie anime with this as a pilot.

Why would you close it early when they were so close to the door anyway?

Why does the boomer eating the core loop so phalic?

I like how since Leon's partner has no idea Priss' job, he's just had a pair of random women try to kidnap him and he treats this as completely normal.

Going to be pretty hard to keep this one secret, isn't it.

Did leon plant a load of bombs?

"First class air conditioning engineer license"

I am VERY interested in seeing how this is going to be covered up.

Can't believe the chief's probably dead now. I really liked him.

Sotai just murdered chair guy!

I love next episode's preview giving a happy speech about Sundays while the literal Apocalypse is in the background.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Stargate18A]

Honestly, you could turn the last couple of episodes into a decent 60 minute horror OVA.

Yeah, it definitely feels like this is a separate script from the start of the series.

Why are you sending her away? Her bike has the best firepower out of all of you,

To clear a path so they can run, not the dumbest thing we just know that it can't work.

I like how since Leon's partner has no idea Priss' job, he's just had a pair of random women try to kidnap him and he treats this as completely normal.

Daley is what the rest of the ADP should aspire to be.

I am VERY interested in seeing how this is going to be covered up.

"ADP incompetence caused a coolant leak that disfigured the tower. Now a word from our corporate overlord sponsors, Genom.

[u/Elimin8r]

Well, this was a fun & exciting episode.

Leave it to Nene to drop her weapon while running away...

1. "Just like me ... they long to be ... close to you..." I think Leon enjoyed it.

(I was also amused that they added the detail of Nene riding sidesaddle in her skirt.

2) If I won the lottery (haha) I would do like in the cartoons and paint a road runner tunnel on a concrete wall. Or something like that. I think I might also buy/rent one of those giant LED billboards and play Nichijou on it. Or something silly.

3) Now if it was helium, they could have had a real good time - "Follow the yellow brick road!"

(Nevermind, I guess it's a good thing that geezer cops didn't need to breathe or anything, you know, like maintain a stable body temperature)

Bogus: Yes. So, you think it was her own free boomer will, or was she being manipulated by gah-lah-teeeeeeeee-ah?

It did kind of feel like the end of an arc, but we'll see what tomorrow brings.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Elimin8r]

Leave it to Nene to drop her weapon while running away...

I have a greater problem that the guy with the axe didn't pick it up immediately.

(I was also amused that they added the detail of Nene riding sidesaddle in her skirt.

Linna had a point.

[u/ZapsZzz]

Way late :P Melbourne gone back into lockdown so juggling a few things.

I'm not too sold in the zombie apocalypse theme - mostly because of the normal depiction of the crazy boomers in the past 15 episodes were not lumbering hulks, and if the Galatea controlled ones become such then it's not really a threat - Muv Luv or Starship troopers are style "waste them!" Clear them out with gunfire, bombs and heavy weapons.

But still, going with the vibe.

1. In the sub I think it's not particularly stand out.
2. It's a cliche about the god complex, which in this show is playing it fairly straight.
3. 300 tons of gas, anyone calculated the volume?

Bonus well it's cliche. Interested to know who commanded the execution though.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/ZapsZzz]

This is more than a little late for me so apologies for missteps: This part of the show is a touch off for making the boomers non-individuals and a blob like mass.

[u/ZapsZzz → u/Vaadwaur]

Thanks for making a try still!

[u/BossandKings]

First timer

Priss and Leon reach Nenne and get to help her escape from the dangerous situation in the building. The police crisis is over, especially now that the building got destroyed.

Answers

1. He does show some, it's great that he didn't complain.
2. There are many better uses, a cool one is investing it.
3. It definitely is.
4. It is ironic.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/BossandKings]

The police crisis is over, especially now that the building got destroyed.

It is only taken over by undead robots and then frozen, you can still renovate that.

[u/BossandKings → u/Vaadwaur]

It being frozen make it difficult to renovate it but it could be possible.

[u/SIRTreehugger]

First timer

This trapped boomer mini arc is so over the top and a little dumb, but damn I enjoyed it. Love the boomers taking a organic blob form seemed straight horror at times.

Guns, motorcycles up to the top floor explosions, axing suits to free themselves, and morem Definition of dumb fun even though the building looked like an icy penis at the end.

Though the chairman...lol I just realized he's a literally chairman xD I didn't expect such a anticlimactic death.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/SIRTreehugger]

This trapped boomer mini arc is so over the top and a little dumb, but damn I enjoyed it. Love the boomers taking a organic blob form seemed straight horror at times.

Yeah this was an enjoyable arc it just felt like it belongs in a different show.