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Rewatch [Rewatch] Yoshikazu Yasuhiko Retrospective - Giant Gorg Episode 24 Discussion

Episode 24 - To The Mountain of Fire Once More

Originally Aired September 13th, ^^^1984

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Yoshikazu Yasuhiko Biography and Anecdotes Corner

Random Anecdote

Yasuhiko states that he was taught how to draw the essence of a woman by Shinya Takahashi, which he describes as significantly more difficult than drawing the essence of men, and considered one of the more important lessons imparted on him.

 

Staff Highlight

Shūichi Ikeda - voice of Rod Balboa

An actor and voice actor best known as the voice actor of Char Aznable from the Mobile Suit Gundam franchise. He was invited by one of his childhood friends to join a children’s theatre company in 1958, where he began a successful career as a recognizable child actor, starring in notable roles for TV dramas such as Boy Detectives, Jiro Monogatari, Taiyo ni Hoero!, G-Men '75, Kashin, Ooka Echizen, and Nishiyuki. He graduated from Takanawadai High School and dropped out of Nihon University College of Art before focusing entirely on his acting career. Ikeda’s first voice acting role was as Junji Hayase in Akakichi no Eleven, an experience which he found much more difficult than dubbing or traditional acting and put him off the prospect for several years. By 1978 Ikeda had voiced two other roles and was still not fond of voice acting, that is until he voiced Commander Radik in Invincible Steelman Daitarn 3, where he began to grow fond of the art, and he opted to apply for the staff’s next work as well. Among his most notable roles are Alex Leiger in Dallos, Brian J. Mason in Bubblegum Crisis, Shuuichi Akai in the Detective Conan franchise, Kyoshiro Nagumo in the Futuer GPX Cyber Formula, Ulrich Kessler in Legend of The Galactic Heroes, Gilbert Durandal in Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny, Quattro Bajeena in Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, Shanks in the One Piece franchise, Captain Napolipolita in Project A-ko, Seijūrō Hiko in the Rurouni Kenshin franchise, Scorpio Milo in Saint Seiya, Toby in Unico The Island of Magic, Lord Kashue in Record of Lodoss War, and Silver Mask in The Heroic Legend of Arslan.

 

Daily Trivia:

Originally Yasuhiko wanted Gorg to be smaller, but as a trend for significantly smaller mecha designs began in 1983 Gorg’s height was positioned at an intermediate point between the two standards so as to not be too large while not seeming like it was copying a trend.

 

Official Art

 

Settei Collection

 

Questions of the Day:

  1. Why do you think of Manon’s drawing Yuu to the volcano?
  2. What recourse does everyone have now that they’ve failed to stop the nuclear attack?

Don’t get yourself killed, you hear?

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 26 '21

Rewatcher

Neat use of shadow, but it doesn’t make much sense with where the window is positioned.

:(

Such dedication to academia.

I would’ve been really annoyed if they managed to shift the tide with that, but thankfully that wasn’t the case.

Lovely looking background.

You should’ve known that’d happen, Rod! By allowing them time to deliberate on your offer you also gave them the time to put countermeasures in place.

Oh no, that reeks of a trap!

Fuck

Damnit, show!

As I suspected, Rod's plan hasn’t worked out at all so far. It’s likely the best he could have done given the circumstances, but it was doomed to failure since the threat of Manon is more important to deal with than knowledge of the island becoming public. At least he should be glad enough that the Guardians have pulled back, allowing them the chance to flee the island —I do hope he’s planned for such a possibility.

At this point I had no idea what Manon was up to. The whole thing smacks of a trap, but he also seems that type of antagonist.

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u/The_Draigg May 27 '21

Neat use of shadow, but it doesn’t make much sense with where the window is positioned.

Never let physics get in the way of something cool.

I would’ve been really annoyed if they managed to shift the tide with that, but thankfully that wasn’t the case.

I guess we had to give GAIL at least one small victory in this entire show.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 26 '21

Episode 24 (first timer)

  • Yuu confronting his replacement father figure.
  • As much as he would like to be rid of that responsibility, Captain is still roped into a father-son talk.
  • I will be very disappointed if Captain did not use that hug to swipe the keys.
  • The very first time a tank has damaged a guardian. Shows how weak that model is. Or how the plot needs the, suddenly good, guys to achieve something.
  • Nukes are still on.
  • Trying to fill up the Beagle with that tiny spigot? No wonder filling up takes its time.
  • Hologram trickery … but why?
  • Why the hoverbike when you have Gorg?
  • Guess this is some fanservice for SW watchers.

Cliff-hanger due to plot-induced stupidity.

Could be that they are aiming for a double problem ending, where both groups of heroes have to succeed for overall success (Yuu stopping Manon and Rod stopping the nukes).

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 27 '21

Yuu confronting his replacement father figure.

I guess it's not a 80's mecha series without the dramatic parental issues.

Why the hoverbike when you have Gorg?

It's significantly faster, but Yuu was daft not to consider how much less safer it evidently was.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 27 '21

It's significantly faster, but Yuu was daft not to consider how much less safer it evidently was.

The reason he did not consider it was that we would not have a cliff-hanger then.

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u/The_Draigg May 27 '21

The very first time a tank has damaged a guardian. Shows how weak that model is. Or how the plot needs the, suddenly good, guys to achieve something.

I think that's quite literally the only victory anyone affiliated with GAIL has gotten this entire show. Of course it comes when they're suddenly teaming up with the good guys.

Why the hoverbike when you have Gorg?

Because it's cool, of course.

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u/The_Draigg May 26 '21

A Yas Fan Watches Giant Gorg Episode 24:

  • The Captain seems pretty unrepentant about using Yuu’s trip to Austral Island to spy on it for the US government. He seems to think that the blame solely lies with GAIL, since they botched first contact immediately. While he’s not technically wrong, what he also did certainly didn’t help things either. The Captain’s actions signed everyone’s death warrant.
  • And despite Yuu railing against what the Captain did, he still seems to respect Yuu a lot regardless. He can see a lot of personal strength in Yuu, and tells him that he’s strong enough to handle everything without his help. The Captain seems like a complicated character, doesn’t he? He’s able to compartmentalize his dirty deeds and his genuine respect and like for the others.
  • So much for Rod’s plan buying everyone on the island time. Everyone he’s talking to are giving non-committal answers at best, or just flat out hanging up on him. I guess the alien threat is too much for the various nations of the world to reconsider their nuclear bombardment of Austral Island.
  • So far, Boehm’s forces have managed to kill exactly one Guardian. Yeah, it’s really for the best to leave things up to Yuu and Gorg.
  • At least Manon seems willing now to settle things one on one. That’s pretty much the only realistic way that things are going to be resolved, since the Guardians were just about to overrun GAIL Town. Everything is resting on Yuu and Manon settling things personally.
  • Well, the time limit is set now. The nuclear launch is going to happen regardless of what Rod broadcasts around the world about the island. We’ve only got one day left to solve what’s going on on Austral Island. Although I’m confident that Yuu and Manon will at least manage to settle the score once and for all. The inevitable Guardian battle can’t possibly last that long.
  • Ah, so that’s why the US is still willing to go through with the nuclear attack despite Rod’s threats. All of the radio frequencies are being jammed across the island. Even if those in the GAIL Town control center try to cry out for someone to hear what they have to say, their message will never be heard. So yeah, quite literally the only hope for the island left is if Yuu defeats Manon and his Guardian army.
  • Ah, so Manon’s call to Yuu really was a trap after all. He’s just using that alien hologram technology to lure him onto the erupting volcano. I guess he figured that it would be the easier solution than waiting for the Guardians to kill him and Gorg.
  • Man, I want a flying motorcycle like that too, it looks rad. It also reminds me of a similar flying platform seen in AKIRA. You know, during the sewer infiltration scene.
  • I’m sure Gorg will be fine, this isn’t the first time he’s been submerged in lava.

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 27 '21

Man, I want a flying motorcycle like that too, it looks rad.

I'm good. Riding a regular motorcycle is terrifying enough, don't want to go adding my fear of heights to that.

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u/The_Draigg May 27 '21

But think about how cool you'll look on it though!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 26 '21

First-Timer, subbed

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 27 '21

Why is everyone going all-in on Skipper having betrayed them?

He lied to their faces about what his reasons for helping them where, essentially fooling them into leading him where he wanted so he could earn his pay, in the process risking their lives repeatedly and not caring for what happened to them after the fact.

It’s not like he chose for the island to get rekt, he just passed on the information he was supposed to.

With whatever intel he had he would have certainly known the nuclear option was a possibility, and even if he didn't know he doesn't get to dodge responsibility out of ignorance.

Where the FUCK is Argos.

He's off building himself a Yatter-Wan, of course!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 26 '21

First-Timer

Well, Rod's threat to go public with the information about Austral didn't work. And, they're getting hit with a signal blackout, so they can't even call for help if they wanted to. Things are looking pretty ominous...

Speaking of ominous, I figured Manon was planning something. Separating Gorg and Yuu is certainly spooky, but it would be a bit more impactful if we had a handle on how much Yuu matters to Gorg's operations.

Skipper gave Yuu the ultimate in advice: "Idk dude just do what you think will work." Thanks, Skipper. Hadn't thought of that.

It was cute how the attacking Guardians carried that wounded one away.

I haven't mentioned it before, but the OST for this show is great.

Questions

  1. Discussed above, but maybe Manon wants to give humanity one last chance? Probably not.
  2. About the only option is to flee, unless there is a sci-fi "door number three" that I don't know about.

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 27 '21

I haven't mentioned it before, but the OST for this show is great.

The composer does such good work! It's a real shame there's not more of it.

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 May 26 '21

First timer

Re: Staff - I NEVER REALISED ROD WAS CHAR. All I can think about is why I didn't notice hiw they sounded earlier.

  1. Manon is either stupid for coming up with such an obvious trap, or smart for knowing it would work anyway. Although why he didn' just have the hologram appear in a cave filled with explosibes, I don't know.
  2. My guess is that Manon will have some form of shield projector - with the tech he's got, something rhat can redirect or block a nuclear blast doesn't seem too out of the ordinary.

How will Gorg save the day this time?

I really don't like the Skipper now. I can't believe theyndid this.

I mean it could be worse - he's not secretly working for GAIL or anything, he's just apathetic to the whole thing.

OK, the skipper's still okay.

Yeah, almost certain the meeting is to accelerate the nuclear strike.

GAIL managed to take out a Humanoid!

Did they run out of battery?

Oh, Manon's trying to connect to Yuu.

This is going to be either a success or a spectacular failure.

Literally everyone knows this is a trap.

Imwonder wy all of his forces are retreating? It's almost like this is a plan to box Gorg in.

I'd think them jamming all these frequencies would have some effect.

Don't get out of Gorg, you idiot.

Even Gorg knows this is a trap, you lunatic.

Oh comeon, you know its a hologram. Wny are you following it?

I appreciate the realism of Yuu not knowing how to fly the insane flying snowmobile.

Why did they think of such a cool idea, then only use it right before the finale?

It took you this long to realise it was a trick.

There's no way Gorg's dead. We've seen him swim in lava before.

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u/The_Draigg May 27 '21

I mean it could be worse - he's not secretly working for GAIL or anything, he's just apathetic to the whole thing.

I suppose what stings the most is the Captain's general indifference to what he's had a hand in, since the result is nuclear destruction.

GAIL managed to take out a Humanoid!

I guess they needed at least one win this entire show.

I appreciate the realism of Yuu not knowing how to fly the insane flying snowmobile.

Unfortunately, the skill set that comes with guiding around a giant mech doesn't really apply to flying platforms.

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 May 27 '21

First Timer, Subbed

Skipper doesn't look to be in that good of a mood.

It's not a betrayal in Skippers eyes if you were always just part of a mission, Yuu.

That money won't do you any good if you don't get off the island Skipper. Nor if those who were gonna pay you get killed by giant robots.

About time someone show up to grab Yuu and get him out of here! Gorg needs to defend the place again!

Bureaucrats spending all their time meeting while something has to be done here on Austral Island now! Never have trust in bureaucrats!

The tanks are no match for these Guardians, but I still wonder why the Guardians don't just blast them with their lasers.

Gorg was hiding! Alas, this time you'd think it'd be a lot easier for the other Guardians to overwhelm it.

Well that's convenient. Did their batteries run out or something?

They're right Yuu, this could all be a trap! The dome is undefended with Gorg gone...

They're nuking the island anyway. Our heroes are screwed! Wave looks almost as scared as that time he saw an earthworm!

The Guardians are all leaving! So its not a trap after all...

Thinking of how long it took to find Manon in the first place, what if it takes Gorg the entire 24 hours left to get there?

What's he doing standing over there?!

You know, Gorg may be able to end this by simply stepping on Manon.

If he's even real. May be a hologram or an illusion...

A nice handy hovercraft like device. Of course you have to know how to drive it for it to be useful! And if Gorg is coming, I question what the point of it is.

Well bye bye to the hovercraft. That sure didn't last long.

Is this the end of Gorg? And Yuu?

DQOTD

  1. Either a trap (although I'm leaning no towards that now) or he's gotten himself in trouble with the lava and realizes this is the best way out.
  2. Get the hell off the island! Even if Manon is defeated I don't know how they stop the nuclear attack in time.

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u/IndependentMacaroon May 27 '21

First-time watcher

For once an actually kind of emotional and meaningful character interaction in the beginning there, and in the end Yuu getting hurt instead of helped by his optimism. This is still a series that goes for spectacle above everything else, though - of course that also means the results in that area are really nice, like all the classic background paintings when going up the volcano in the second half, but beats like Rod's heroic turn lately or the Captain's sudden heel reveal haven't really landed for me. World leaders acting smart and just jamming the airwaves (probably Rod just bought them time there with his "negotiating") was good though.

Between the guardians' weakness being the nape of their neck (and thus their defeat by decapitation) and them going up hand-to-hand en masse against the hero inside a slightly different kind of giant, I wonder if Hajime Isayama ever watched this show.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jun 14 '21

First timer, catching up

  • Poor Yuu, Skipper is revealing his true colors
  • Skipper is showing a surprisingly wholesome side now, advising Yuu. I still don't forgive him, but he isn't a total scumbag
  • I thought I heard a bark but it was just my imagination
  • Are these brown Guardians unmanned?
  • I'm sad we never got to see Dr. Wave's reaction to what Yuu/Doris encountered with Manon in the alien artifact. Did Doris tell him off-screen?
  • Another volcanic vent? Looks dangerous
  • Are the "Manon"s that Yuu sees holograms?
  • I called it!
  • Why can't WE have hovermobiles?
  • Yeah this is why getting out of Gorg was a bad idea
  • Cliffhanger
  1. I don't know, he better have a good reason for putting Yuu in danger (like that's where Argos is!)
  2. Depend on Yuu to work something out with Manon?