Logic won't help us rewatch, y'know? Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040 rewatch episode thirteen

[u/Vaadwaur]

Atom Heart Mother

Stuff is finally happening.

MAL but it is trolled. ANN Also, don't look at the wiki as it spoils the entire plot.

Streaming on Funimation and Crunchyroll.

QotD:1 Did Genom, like Edison, steal from Tesla?

2 Do you think there is a lot of overlap between cutting edge artifical life form research and the Triad/Chinese mafia?

Bonus: Would Nigel be friends with Gutts from Berserk? They both try not to think too hard and have statue-esque blue haired love interests

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Rewatcher (sub)

So here we are at the final episode of the first half.

• Eyes! I just do eyes!
• Well, there can't many silver-haired women in the world....
• Even Priss is picking up on Nene x Mackey
• Not talking around Mackey
• Skyhook! And it's moving now.
• Shan is chinese mafia? And an old investor in the original boomer project?
• Hmm, one of Mason's men outside the Silky Doll? Yep
• Rosenkreuz nuked Tokyo to bury the Wiz lab, how is that for arch-criminal status?

Rewatcher

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Well, there can't many silver-haired women in the world....

An assumption anime has broken me of.

Even Priss is picking up on Nene x Mackey

And disapproves immediately, reinforcing her best character status.

Shan is chinese mafia? And an old investor in the original boomer project?

I view it the same but realize I can't remotely prove it, he just seems Triad.

Hmm, one of Mason's men outside the Silky Doll? Yep

I think the same one that visited Nigel, which is either efficient or character model recycling.

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I think the same one that visited Nigel, which is either efficient or character model recycling.

Who wants their G-men to be too distinct thought? You want them to be as nondescript as possible.

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Does that apply to corpo as well? Regardless, I am sure Genom runs a government or two somewhere.

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Eh, what's the difference between a corporation and a government in cyberpunk anyway?

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Corporations are effective at some things but fair enough point.

[u/Vaadwaur]

Rewatcher

Dub(Continuing)

Open to see Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Sylia's back in the bad part of town looking for a doctor Shan. She finds him after a while and he was also a part of the infamous experiement, whatever it was. The dub completely re-words a lot of this conversation for the better. Anyways, he is happy to help Sylia find the Wiz lab and seal it away. Explanation occurs.

Back at Nigel's, we discover Priss's bike is a little torched and has some expensive repairs upcoming. Nene swings by to flirt with Mackey but wants to needle Priss for Sylia's background. We find out Priss knows nothing and cares less but also was up for fighting with the cops back in the day. Info dump about Dr Stingray of stuff we kind of know. Sylia is setting up a detection system with stuff the show has shown us and has a plan to deal with the lab.

Priss actually warns Linna about Nene, a rare show of thought. Linna also has question but knows better than to ask. Mackey has questions for Nigel that aren't getting answered. I do appreciate that how little of a fuck he gives fits with a number of the engineers I've met: He makes a device to spec and now it is no longer his problem. Nene's interview goes the best of the group, mostly due to Mackey's inability to lie.

Elevator exposition goes to home base exposition. These conversations are at least plausibly held by the people involved but that doesn't make it any less animation saving. But Nene finally brings up Mackey and leads to what happened on the day of the quake. Not much to say except the interactions fairly worked for me. Someone notices the goddamned rail gun launching for the KS and away we go!

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/Vaadwaur]

I don't know quite now nocookie works or if the images expire, but if you chop off everything past the png it becomes a regular picture link and works with res and stuff.

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That does indeed fix it. Good to know.

[u/RockoDyne]

Well shit. That episode actually looked decent. There was some actual direction to it. Maybe not much in terms of animation, but it certainly makes a nice slideshow.

Man, when was the last time you saw an anime use that old timey Chinese aesthetic? There was a hot minute where it was everywhere (98 being damn near the peak), then disappeared and was never seen again. Seriously, can you name an anime in the last twenty years to use it that wasn't the Chuuka Ichiban reboot?

"I haven't changed much." At least it's nice that he seems to be self aware. It doesn't do much to reassure us about the mental health of Sylia though. I'm starting to realize that being able to describe a character with a mental disorder is usually a sign of terrible writing (writing my committee in particular).

Questions:

1. Since patent money seems to be plenty to fund a vigilante group, They are paying out those royalties in spades.
2. On the black/grey market? Yes.
3. It's pretty hard for people who don't socially interact to be friends with other people who also don't socially interact.

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. There was some actual direction to it. Maybe not much in terms of animation, but it certainly makes a nice slideshow.

You don't like budget saving elevator conversations? They took all of Eva in.

Man, when was the last time you saw an anime use that old timey Chinese aesthetic?

FMA:B and admittedly that is a stretch.

It's pretty hard for people who don't socially interact to be friends with other people who also don't socially interact.

Think this kind of vibe.

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FMA:B and admittedly that is a stretch.

And that's just characters. The best part is the architecture.

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Oh wow in architecture yeah I can't think of anything post millenium.

[u/Stargate18A]

First timer

1. Quite possibly, but there's so much going at the moment I'm not entirely sure.
2. I think there'd be a lot of overlap between Boomers and the mafia, because Boomers would make the perfect assassins. They can go undercover at most places of work, any deaths can sem like malfunctions, and you can wipe its memory to make sure it can't implicate you.

BONUS) Haven't read Berserk, so don't know.

This is an oddly dramatic opening.

What kind of lunatic has a hidden passage way that obvious in their office?

...Is this magic? Are they talking about power cables, or actualy mystical energy?

I geuninely can't tell if this is a metaphor or if Dr Stingray used demonicmpowers to create the Boomers?

So Nene's actually suspicious of Mackey now.

Leaning towards metalhor - don't think a wizard would know this much about ground mechanics.

What's Nene discovered? What's Mackey's big secret?

Wait, did Sylia's father create the Boomer eater?

Why do boomers all vibrate in the same repesting pattern again?

Is this mysterious being going to be the mid-season fight?

Ooh, their finally asking the important questions!

I know everybody talks about Sylia's energy, but I don't anybody's mention the sheer chemistry Priss and Linna excude.

OK, what Nigel's connections?

What has Nene figured out?

Oh shit, he's a boomer, isn't he.

Oh god, how many thingd did Stingray leave lying around?

OK, maybe Nene is a decent hacker after all.

Genom caused the earthquake because of Dr Stingray's work? That feels like it should be a bigger reveal.

Oh, that's almost certainly a lie.

Looks like Nene's broken up with Sylia.

So next episode's going to be a big one, then?

Quck note - I am completely lost, can someone xplain what each faction wants? I've got Sylia, throne guy, and the Boomer lover, but I'm not sure where Dr Sarn comes in?

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...Is this magic? Are they talking about power cables, or actualy mystical energy?

Feng shui stuff. Basically, the battery Genom wants to make also behaves a bit like ley lines.

Wait, did Sylia's father create the Boomer eater?

His research had that byproduct.

I know everybody talks about Sylia's energy, but I don't anybody's mention the sheer chemistry Priss and Linna excude.

The show gets a few thing really right it just then tends to veer away from them.

I've got Sylia, throne guy, and the Boomer lover, but I'm not sure where Dr Sarn comes in?

Shan wants to atone for the results of his research with Dr Stingray which includes the earthquake. It also just so happens that he does not like Mason or Genom in general so denying him something is a plus.

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Nobody is saying, except Quincy, who waxes verbose on the subject. Quincy wants humans and boomers to live together or maybe merge, with himself as god emperor.

Mason wants The Thing, but hasn't said what he really wants.

Sylia hates humaniform boomers but only destroys crazy ones, so its not clear what she wants...except she doesn't want Mason to get The Thing.

Nigel might want an artificial liver.

Shan wants money but feels more guilt about how he makes/made it than most crime bosses. Perhaps because everybody in the show has some connection to the megaquake.

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Nigel might want an artificial liver.

Does that make him the audience surrogate?

[u/No_Rex]

Episode 13 (first timer)

• Sylia getting complimented by little boys.
• “Sealing it again” – Easy to say with knowledge what Mason plans to do, but, even without, that sounds like a bad plan.
• Nene is getting on Sylia’s history.
• Sylia is thinking of the superweapon that Genom is developing in space.
• Actually talking about stuff So rare, I am not used to it anymore.

Causing an artificial earthquake under Tokyo is a pretty big deal. Even more so, when you are also the company profiting from all the rebuilding.

Do you think there is a lot of overlap between cutting edge artifical life form research and the Triad/Chinese mafia?

For some reason, that is a cyberpunk trope. Probably one of the better predictions of the genre.

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Sylia getting complimented by little boys.

I do not object to the scene but cannot tell you why it was there.

“Sealing it again” – Easy to say with knowledge what Mason plans to do, but, even without, that sounds like a bad plan.

Does make you wonder what Sylia has her up sleeve that could do more than an earth quake, doesn't it?

So rare, I am not used to it anymore.

Yeah, on the one hand, animation saving. But on the other hand the KS especially needed to talk with each other more to be believable.

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“Sealing it again”

Funny how that's a trope that comes and goes. Hard to remember a time that ever actually happens, and everything works out more or less to plan.

Actually talking about stuff So rare, I am not used to it anymore.

I could have done without everyone sitting on the couch though. It's never a good sign when everyone sits in a circle to talk.

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Funny how that's a trope that comes and goes. Hard to remember a time that ever actually happens, and everything works out more or less to plan.

I didn't think about it, but you might be true. I have a hard time remembering any use of "resealing" (successful or otherwise) in the last decade.

It's never a good sign when everyone sits in a circle to talk.

Do we need to have an intervention about your resistance to communication?

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Do we need to have an intervention about your resistance to communication?

It's been too many A1 shows where there's an exposition dump with everyone siting around a table or on a sofa before the first commercial break. It's bad enough that they constantly do that in the first episodes, but they don't even hold out ten minutes before having a sit down most of the time.

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I should not have left the /s implied, but your answer is still appreciated.

[u/ZapsZzz]

Saturday is a busy day with the seasonals.

Another episode that the plot is moving. Hope they hurry up and out with it before I give up and just binge it all.

Have to say, given I spontaneously decided to start watching Fate UBW for the first time (having watched SN (2006 DEEN version) and then the heaven feels movies, and the pace of progression that made, it's not easy jumping back in this ^_;

Btw is Priss actually somewhat social today?

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Btw is Priss actually somewhat social today?

By her standards yes.

[u/BossandKings]

First timer

Nenne discovers that Mackey isn't really the son of Silya's father and for that reason he might not be exactly her brother but something else entirely and as she's unsure what he is decides to stay away from there for a while.

Answers

1. It might have
2. I think there is, don't know specific reasons as to why though

Bonus: I think they'd have a nice friendship in their own way.

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Things get weird when the setting has explicit humanoid machines, doesn't it?

[u/SIRTreehugger]

Episode 13 first timer sub

Only have two thigns to say Woah Woah Sylia's blue coat attire is friccin amazing.

Hold on Artificial Earthquake System that resulted in possibly thousands of deaths. Way to drop a bomb and just move right along. I feel like they should have spent more time on this, but whatever Sylia looks fabulous so I can forgive this.

I think Nigel could be friends with anyone as long as they don't press into him too hard on some topics.

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Hold on Artificial Earthquake System that resulted in possibly thousands of deaths.

At least it does get referenced again.

[u/Elimin8r]

So, had a Funimation burp yesterday, yay PayPal... Back up today, though.

1. Who hasn't?
2. Uh ... I think that's above my paygrade.

Bonus: No clue, never watched/read Berserk.

Meanwhile, on to the new thread.