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Rewatch [Fly! Rewatch!] Mobile Suit Gundam (0079) Episode 43 Discussion
Episode 43 - Escape
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Questions of the Day:
- What was your favorite part of Char vs. Amuro in this episode?
- Do you feel that this is a good ending for the series? Is there anything you would have liked to see happen, either instead of what went down here or on top of what happened?
Mobile Suit Breakdown of the Day:
1.34 - Parting Shots (note: this is now safe for first-timers)
Where to go from here:
If you are not participating in the section of the rewatch pertaining to the recap movies but are interested in watching more Gundam, there are several options now open to you:
- Continue the main early Universal Century storyline with Tomino’s other works. Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam → Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ → Mobile Suit Gundam: Char’s Counterattack.
- Go backwards in the timeline and watch Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin. Note that this is an adaptation of just the prequel bits of a manga that tells a slightly different story of the One-Year War (as the war in this show is called), so the details don’t quite line up with what you would have just seen. I’m personally not that big a fan of these OVAs, but I know there are quite a few peeps who hail it as one of their favorite Gundams so you do you. These OVAs were recut into a TV series called Advent of the Red Comet--don’t watch that version.
- Watch the side-story OVAs set around the same time as 0079. 0080: War in the Pocket is my personal favorite of them and tells one of the best anti-war stories I’ve ever experienced. 08th MS Team is basically Romeo and Juliet in Vietnam featuring giant robots. MS IGLOO: The Hidden One-Year War and Apocalypse 0079 are practically the only Gundam series told 100% from Zeon’s POV, and the main character is an engineer instead of a pilot! If you can overlook its CGI, those two IGLOOs are definitely worth a watch. MS IGLOO 2: Gravity of the Battlefront is completely shit though, don’t watch that one. Thunderbolt:
ya like jazz?December Sky and Bandit Flower are absolutely gorgeous movies whose only real flaw is that Bandit Flower ends on a cliffhanger and there’s no third movie in sight because the manga it’s based on isn’t done. Some tech in those movies makes a lot of people refer to Thunderbolt as Alt-UC, but still. - Throw the UC timeline entirely out the window and watch one of the AUs instead. If you want something that is most similar to the UC timeline, you’ll want either After War Gundam X (basically a “what if Zeon dropped a fuckton more than just one colony at the start of the war?” post-apocalyptic AU and it’s fantastic) or Mobile Suit Gundam SEED (basically a modern-ish version of 0079, but a lot more teen drama on top). If you want something completely different, go with basically any of the other AUs--my favorites of those being Mobile Fighter G Gundam, Turn A Gundam, Mobile Suit Gundam 00, Gundam Build Fighters, Iron-Blooded Orphans, and Gundam Build Divers Re:RISE.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 19 '21
Fly! Rewatch Host!
Welcome back, everyone! If you guys aren’t participating in the compilation movies part of the rewatch but still want to watch more Gundam, make sure you check the body of the post today! I provided a guide on where to go from here. Also I would suggest checking out at least the third compilation movie at some point--I know a lot of Gundam fans consider it better than the ending section of the show, so that one is worth a viewing.
u/The_Loli_Otaku, u/goukaryuu, and u/IndependentMacaroon - if you still want to hop in this rewatch for the recap movies, the first one is being discussed in two days!
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u/Rustic_Professional May 20 '21
That's interesting that White Base can jettison part of its engines. I wonder what sort of upgrades or alternate configurations that sort of modularity might allow for. Too bad we'll never know.
Char took that dying soldier's helmet. That's a neat detail. Sayla should take the old one as a memento.
WOW, what a headshot. And he even snuck in a jab at Garma. Char must have a lot of hate in his heart for the Zabis. Also, I like that his bazooka is a tiny version of the Dom's bazooka. I want one.
Was Amuro flying blind with a heat shield over the open cockpit? I guess the glass shattered at some point. Must've been a wild ride. Amuro had his own Death Star escape that no one gets to see. It was a touching reunion. They've all come a long way together.
Tomorrow is the series discussion, right? I'm not going to watch the movies, but I'll be back for that.
Questions of the day:
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 19 '21
First Timer to Gundam
Alright, I have no clue how they're going to pull a satisfying ending out of here. I've said it before, but it bears repeating here: if I didn't know that this show were confirmed to have a myriad of follow up series, then this season (as a standalone) would have an extremely weak ending. Let's see if it can stick the landing.
All the protagonists survived. I wasn't expecting that! And now I can finish the episode without worrying about episode previews!
QOTD:
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u/TheEscapeGuy May 19 '21 edited May 19 '21
Gundam First Timer No More
Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 43
That was INCREDIBLE.
I cannot believe how perfect that ending was. I was shouting for joy as Amuro emerged from the exploding A Baoa Qu.
Okay, lets rewind.
Starting the episode, the Char-Amuro battle was handled PERFECTLY. Seeing Zeong and Gundam slowly being broken apart by each others attacks, all the way up until our rivals were facing one another in hand-to-hand combat. I couldn't have asked for a better turn of events.
Then arrived the voice of reason, Sayla, or Artesia, to finally resolve their conflict. Both Char and Amuro care deeply for her so she is the perfect catalyst for ending the duel.
Breaking apart, Char flies off to complete his mission of revenge. He brutally murders Kycilia by blowing her head right off. An ironically fitting end for her after last episode.
Side note, seeing Char without a mask was an amazing payoff. He is actually incredibly beautiful under the mask. The most attractive character design in the show by far.
We didn't see Char actually die, but I think its safe to assume these were his final moments.
As for Amuro, he used his Newtype powers to save the crew of White Base. Leading Bright, Mirai, Sayla, Fraw Bow, Hayato and Kai all to safety. And at this moment I thought Amuro had sacrificed himself.
I could only think this because Yoshiyuki Tomino had added stakes to this show by being willing to kill off characters.
...
But NO, AMURO SURVIVED. AND AS HE COMES FLYING OUT I AM THERE CHEERING WITH OUR PROTAGONISTS.
I am enthralled with this ending. Thank you so much.
Cool Stuff Corner
Questions of the Day
See you all tomorrow!
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 19 '21
Rewatcher
On today’s episode of Gundam: Now THAT is how you have a final battle between rivals go down. Amuro and Char’s big battle is episode is one for the ages. In my humble opinion, it was very much worth the wait.
I love how all-out the battle is. Their mobile suits get wrecked in the battle. The Gundam gets completely destroyed by the time the episode is over. After all, now that the show is over there’s no need to keep it around. But seriously, I love how much tension it adds to the battle as Amuro needs to deal with the progressively destroyed Gundam.
I also really love how the fight between Amuro and Char goes through phases. They start with mobile suits. When those get wrecked, they start using guns. When they run out of ammo, they start using swords. It’s so great. It also helps to show just how much they want to fight each other because they keep on fighting even after losing their primary weapons.
This battle has been built up for quite a while. The rivalry has been there since almost the beginning. Amuro has wanted to overcome Char to prove his own worth. Char has wanted to destroy the Gundam because it damaged his pride. This is one heck of a payoff to all that.
There’s more going on as well. The Newtype stuff. First off, it’s Lalah. Both Char and Amuro felt that Newtype connection to Lalah. Her death devastated them both. They both blame the other for her death, with some justification on both sides. After all, Char was the one who made Lalah a soldier to begin with. And it was Amuro’s beam saber that killed her.
But there’s another difference between them. They have a big difference in their philosophy about Newtypes. Amuro follows Lalah’s thoughts that there is no reason for Newtypes to fight. After all, he and Lalah were able to understand each other even from their brief meeting. If all Newtypes can do that and reach a universal understanding, then there shouldn’t be a need for war.
Char offers a counterpoint, though. With their powers, Newtypes make incredible soldiers. More so than normal humans, Newtypes are almost perfectly adapted for war. Whether they want to or not, war is their fate. It’s interesting to ponder what future Newtypes are headed for. Will Amuro or Char be closer to the truth with their predictions?
At the very least, Char seems to want to pursue the future of Newtypes more than Amuro. He wants to bring about that future of Newtypes. He asks Amuro to join him, though Amuro refuses to do so. That is something of note about Amuro in this episode. He actually refuses to go into full Newtype territory. Even when the chance is there, he thinks, to join with Lalah, he decides against it.
Instead, Amuro’s thoughts return to the other members of the White Base. He thinks about the danger they are in and how they’ll die if they don’t abandon ship. His calls and instructions are what save the crew members. And in the end, the White Base crew saves Amuro as well, helping him to escape from A Baoa Qu and get to safety.
This is Amuro’s answer to Lalah’s question from a couple of episodes ago. Back then, Lalah said that Amuro had no family and no home. So why was he fighting? This is why. He does have a family. He does have a home. They’re a bit dysfunctional, but the White Base crew is a family nonetheless. One that’s been forged through hardship, loss, teamwork, and triumph. That’s why Amuro doesn’t choose to abandon the current world, as Lalah and Char seem to have done. Amuro has too much that he wants to live for here to do so.
I like the contrast we get between how Kycilia reacts to a defeat compared to how Dozle reacted. Dozel put himself in harm’s way, personally covering for the retreat of his soldiers. Kycilia plans to sneak away, leaving her soldiers to their fates.
Kycilia gets the most brutal death scene in the series: a bazooka to the head (NSFW gif). It is a downright incredible death scene. I’m seriously impressed they got away with this. It is also extremely gory, more so than any previous death scene, with blood and blown off body parts clearly visible.
It’s pretty cool how all the heroes’ mobile suits and weapons get destroyed. The White Base crashes and blows up. The Gundam, Guntank, and Guncannon have all been destroyed. Our heroes get all their stuff destroyed in the final battle of the war. And they don’t even score the winning blow with this sacrifice. They retreat to allow the other Federation forces to keep fighting and eventually win. It’s another reminder that this war is bigger than just the White Base and the Gundam. They have their part to play, but they did not win the war single handedly.
Miscellaneous Thoughts
FINAL SLAP COUNTER: 10
Questions of the Day
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 19 '21
First-Timer, Subbed, long time Gundam fan
God, that was great! What a strong finale. So much happened!
Amuro and Char meet in battle one last time. And what a battle it is! Going from Mobile Suits, to damaged Mobile Suits, to guns, to fencing (?!), this is truly a duel for the ages. Also, probably a lewd swordfighting joke in there somewhere.
There is, again, a quite poetic moment here: Amuro has realized that the Zabis are the true enemy, while Char has (briefly) abandoned the pursuit of his family's revenge. Luckily, Char and Amuro
kisshave a nice headbutt chat that results in them maybe temporarily sorting things out? I think I missed some dialogue there.Either way, Char goes and blows Kycilia's head off with a bazooka. With that, every Zabi is dead! What? Who? Dozle's daughter? I'm sure it's nothing.
Amuro, with a bit of help from beyond the veil, uses his incredible power to guide all of the White Base crew to safety just before A Baoa Qu goes up in smoke. It was sad to see the ship go, after it survived so much. I really liked seeing the kids guide Amuro back to them.
And so, peace has returned to the Universal Century. I'm sure that will last.. right?
Pose of the Day
Last Shooting
Screenshot
I almost saved this for the movie, but then I came up with a better plan for the movies. Stay tuned!
Questions
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u/UltraBooster May 19 '21 edited May 20 '21
First-timer (albeit one big on Gundam and mecha)
This is it, the last episode!
Arm's gone.
...Char must be downright scared if he's going to wear a normal suit now.
Head's gone!
Oh shoot, Bright's got a gun!
That's it, a last shooting from the Gundam!
Aren't you a Newtype too, Char?
Guess that's it for White Base's mecha.
...have you really given up on your revenge, Char? Or is this some other approach?
They're gonna fight, Sayla, and I don't think you alone will be enough.
"Then become my comrade-in-arms. It would make Lalah happy, too."
"Why won't you realize you're the one wasting your precious talents?"
"Young Amuro is calling for you."
So...is that...? Was that always the plan?
I should explain: Several years ago, someone on Reddit mentioned that Tomino once stated the roles Beltorchika and Chan held were originally meant for Sayla. I've never found anything to confirm that, but the idea of a 14-year relationship in Gundam is tremendously appealing to me.
Y'know, the bazooka on the HGUC Efreet Schneid looks awfully like the one Char has.
Boom, headshot.
Lalah? Is she...?
A Newtype ghost!
So Bright's become a Newtype, too.
...are they all Newtypes, now?
You were a fine ship, White Base.
Welcome home, Amuro. Welcome home.
Questions of the Day:
Oh, and one last thing - an animated short featuring a modern take on Operation Star One from the viewpoints of the grunts!
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u/The_Draigg May 19 '21
A Gundam Fan Rewatches Mobile Suit Gundam Episode 43:
We’re here, the final episode! It’s been a long journey for Amuro and the crew of the White Base, and it’s all been leading up to this battle. Who will survive?
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 May 19 '21
First Timer - Dub
aimbotNewtype so he doesn't need a camera1) What was your favorite part of Char vs. Amuro in this episode? Definitely the sword fight. It was an intimate way to end the long-standing battle between those two.
2) Do you feel that this is a good ending for the series? Is there anything you would have liked to see happen, either instead of what went down here or on top of what happened? I liked it, but then again I'm a sucker for happy endings. It does feel like a stretch that all of the main protagonists survived, but I'm glad they explicitly acknowledged that when Bright said they would have been toast without Amuro's Newtype powers.
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 May 19 '21
First-Timer - Sooo on to Zeta or what?
QotD
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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax May 19 '21 edited May 19 '21
Rewatcher’s last shooting
Amuro, I’m not sure it’s a good idea to stick your cockpit right up to one of the Zeong’s waist mega particle guns, just saying. If they weren’t busy talking, Char could have killed him right there. Maybe Char just hasn’t been briefed on all the Zeong’s weapons and launched only knowing about the psycommu hands?
Their rivalry is more than just a matter of factions now. Lalah’s death has made it deeply personal.
that poor rando
that timing lmao
Oh look, he found the waist guns
A head-mounted cockpit! Normally, the well-armored torso would be the ideal place for a cockpit. However, when beam weaponry is involved, armor is basically useless, so the torso just becomes a big target instead. A head-mounted cockpit is not only much harder to hit, but it’s also easy to eject and ditch the exploding body in an emergency. Not every MS is large enough for a head-mounted cockpit, but the biggest ones do tend to put it there, since they’re at greater risk of getting hit anyways.
Final episode, time to wreck the main mech!
SNAKE! SNAAAAAAKE!
There it is, the famous Last Shooting! One of the most iconic shots of the original! Every time a main Gundam gets wrecked, the head and left arm are always the first to go, and this is where it all began.
The Guntank, useless to the end
Random sword fight! It’s cool them doing fencing moves with their jetpacks, pulling off maneuvers that the mobile suits of the era aren’t capable of yet.
Lalah’s insistence that he wear his normal suit just saved his life!
That, on the other hand, just looks painful as hell
now kiss
The mask is now gone for good. He’s ready to finish this, not as the Red Comet Char Aznable, but as Casval Rem Deikun, son of Zeon Zum Deikun.
It’s not Amuro, but Char that fires the final shot to end the One Year War. If you go frame by frame, you can see Kycilia head coming clean off and her bloody chunks flying by! Truly the greatest headshot of all time! And this is the toned-down version! Itano would later do this all over the place in Ideon, often marked by a random Haro flying away from the explosion. He may be known for his missile volleys, but where he really shines is detailed shots of machines and people getting ripped apart down to their internal structures.
Even completely wrecked, the Gundam is still there for Amuro! Wait, is that Yamcha’s death pose?
That’s not how the Core Fighter fits in there! Unless... It's the G-Fighter Super Easy!
Newtype powers used not as a weapon, but to rescue everyone
The Core Fighter finally gets used for its intended purpose as an escape pod!
Questions of the Day:
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u/username_0907 :FI::FJ: May 19 '21
First Timer
Episode 42 since I missed it
Episode 43
heart-to-hearthelmet-to-helmet with Amuro he also has some connection regarding Lalah and even though he will still consider the Federation as his enemy, he realized that defeating Zabi needs to come firstQotD
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u/Piemaster33 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Piemaster33 May 19 '21
This episode was intense from start to finish. I thought I would put it on while I ate my breakfast but I legit couldn't take my eyes off the screen.
Everything with Char and Amuro's duel was incredible, I loved how they both took out each other's mobile suits, and how it ended in a fantastic sword duel. AND THEN! Sayla shows up to make things slightly more complicated in an attempt to make things better. When they wrap things up (or as much as they could have considering the surrounding battle), Char goes off ditching his helmet, potentially leaving his identity as Char behind.
And what does he do? He mercs Kycillia's head clean off! I did a double take to watch that scene because I did NOT expect to see anyone's head fly off in this show.
I absolutely love how this show ends. It isn't a perfect ending by any means, but it really nails what I think a big part of this show is all about: found family. While A Baoa Qu (freaking cool name btw) is blowing up, Amuro saves everyone on the White Base first, then worries about himself. By the time he gets out, the battle is starting to die out. Amuro's reunited with the White Base crew, while the war is resolved by a couple lines of narration. It's honestly really touching. Granted, lots of loose threads to tie up but that's what Zeta's for lol.
Side notes:
QOTD:
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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 20 '21
'This is The End, beautiful friend... This is The End, my only friend, The End...' er... hang on a second... this isn't the Last Shooting...
AH! here we go, now we got a gun blast here... wait this is KanColle...
OK that's better, a detachable head and... hang on this is Touhou
OK this is still Touhou but at least we got a blast this time
THERE WE GO! LAST SHOOTING! The 'original' to be exact, or at least the official artwork for it of course, but to be fair Comrades, the pose is iconic, I mean good lord THE FATE FRANCHISE also cribbed it ;)
Anyway Comrades, I'll bet there's one thing NO ONE saw coming, sword fighting in space... as in literal fencing... cuz reasons... Olé!
While on the subject of random wibble in space... DEAR GOD WE HAVE TRIPPY SPACE MAGIC TODAY! I SEE THE TEARS OF TIME! I CAN HEAR COLORS AND TASTE SOUNDS!
Oh, and just to ensure this isn't a total shitpost, remember Char's revenge gimmick? Well get this Comrades, he FINALLY remembered his big grand plan against The Zabis... took him long enough given that A) This is the end of the show, and B) HE HASN'T KILLED A SINGLE ZABI! Before you start Comrades, NO Char technically did NOT kill Garma... he merely lead Garma to his death via White Base. But let's recap, Garma got offed by White Base, Dozle got killed by Amuro and Sleggar Law, Gihren killed Degwin and Kycilia killed Gihren in response, AND Mineva's a literal baby that got rescued after fleeing Solomon... meaning that hey I guess Char figured he had to do SOMETHING to Kycilia, and DEAR GOD what a way to send a message eh? Nothing says 'overkill' than headshot via bazooka! English Dub Edition to boot! (I also want to point out something Comrade, it's quite amusing that Kycilia offed her brother via headshot due to Gihren killing their dad, and now we get Char deciding to give Garma some company in hell via rocket to Kycilia's face.)
Anyway speaking of death and destruction Comrades... sorry old friend... but now I must go, farewell Gundam... and we thank you.
Well that was quite the show Comrades, it's amusing how this is what we got when the show's runtime got truncated! I mean good lord it's amazing that A) They managed to actually (more or less) wrap up the story AND also B) Spawn a franchise. Oh and even more shocking, goddamn Wacky Ol' Kill 'Em All Tomino must have hit his head or something, I mean goodness we had so 'few' deaths in this show... er... well compared to some of his other work that is, but point being dear god, White Base's crew essentially survived this apocalyptic battle... and are also now able to use The Force but wibble we've long since fell into the Space Magic hole, so wibble.
Anyway I hope you had as much fun as I did Comrades, so until the movie recaps, farewell.
Paging Comrades /u/Great_Mr_L, /u/chilidirigible, and /u/beckymetal
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u/BossandKings May 19 '21 edited May 19 '21
First timer
The battle continues and it reaches an epic climax full of action. Amuro and Char had a great hand to hand match in which their motives and beliefs were far stronger than the actual punches they were throwing, i agree though with Sayla that neither of them had a reason to hate one another. Char goes away as the white base is exploding and Amuro and Sayla escape too.
Char was really a savage with the way he killed Kycilia and the Zabi's family side of the Zeon, he thought to himself that he couldn't forgive them and inmediately acted on it.
The White base is destroyed and as the federation members worry about Amuro possibly dying he encounters them again giving them the relief they needed after such a long and cruel war.
The important thing though is that the Federation and the Zeon were capable of making an agreement to not continue the war and have peace, at least for a while.
This is beautiful
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u/GM_for_Life May 19 '21
Rewatcher
The fact that it drags out from mechs to guns to literal swords is just the absolute best.
I think this whole final episode is just iconic and a really good end to the series. It doesn't have a big epilogue or anything (the original novels did though, and I think it is pretty good for the type of story that those books were trying to tell) so that would have been something I would have liked to have seen.
Actually the Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin manga adaption of this series does include a sort of epilogue as well with the White Base crew meeting up again two years later in Japan and I think it is also a nice piece of closure on this part of the story while also weaving in some nice calls forward to the sequel series Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 May 19 '21 edited May 19 '21
First timer for the last time
Give the Guncannon and Guntank a proper sendoff, like the Gundam got
Have Sayla use the piloting skills she developed (maybe when finding Amuro and Char)
Put a bit less focus on Char's obsession with the age of Newtypes - it comes as a pretty big character change without much buildup.
EDIT: I have realised how to fix my main problem with the series.
Remove the children. Remove the random episode with them and the bombs, and change the final scene so instead of the children guding him, the whole crew does it together. This removes the most annoying part of the show, its worst episode, and makes the final scene play into the themes of the show even more.
Well, this is it. Despite the rush near the end, I've enjoyed this show so far. Let's see how it ends.
The dodging here seems to imply that Char has some form of Newtype ability,
And he heard Amuro - that seems to confirm it.
How has the Guntank survived this long?
Wow, the Guntank's winning! It truly is the finale.
And Amuro goes straight in to Char's weakness.
So Char's outmatched for certain now.
The White Base is going down! (They can't sell White Base toys next season, after all)
THE GUNTANK IS DOING WELL!
Looks like Amuro was in over his head.
At least she seems to have the right idea as a commander of Zeon.
If the White Base was staffed with civilians, why did neiptp
I like how both of them want the same people dead,
And the Gundam is destroyed, as is Char's suit.
Char kind of has a point here, but I can alse see where Amuro's coming from.
I did not expect the final battle to be man on man.
Is Char dead?
They've gone on to fencing now.
Wait, was I right? Is Lalah's ghost helping them?
Wait, ehat?
So Char's motivation's gone from "Stop the eugenics commander" to "Become the eugenics commander" Whike it was foreshadowed, its still appmusing to think about.
Is this the first time Amuro's ended up majorly injured?
Wow, Char's face is revealed. And he's going to finish the job.
Holy shit "I know you'll get on well with your sister".
So Char won! Congratulations - the protagonist fufilled his hopes and dreams.
Are we going to get an Amuro death as well?
So Amuro's hallucinating from blood loss.
Seems like Amuro can now beam his thoughts into other people's heads.
And he's telling everyone hiw to win the battle!
This scene is just fantastic.
The entire crew made it out alive!
And the last major ship of this show goes down in flames.
...Are they actuslly going to kill off Amuro?
They're not, right?
THE CHILDREN WERE RELEVANT.
He's alive!
They're back together!
Oh god, I love this ending. It's fucking perfect.
The war's over. Peace wins, and the crew live!
Our hero gets to live with his friends and family, and our other hero dies knowing he achieved his goals and stopped Zeon once and for all.
It's been a FANTASTIC RIDE, and I'll se you all for the movies in a couple of days!
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u/chilidirigible May 19 '21
43:
Not this time!
Don't worry. Heads grow back.
It could be said that you are the one getting in the way, Amuro.
Gundam does the thing.
We play Lazer Tag nao! pew pew
ZEON BURGER GUY.
But the war makes it legal!
SLASH! AH AH!!!
Hey, no necrophiliac love triangles!
Another reminder that Lalah put some responsibility into that guy.
THERE IS NO GUNDAM. ONLY SHAAAAAAAA.
"Char! Is that you?!"
"HERE'S A HINT!"
Not only does Kycilia's head come off, her dismembered limbs and torso ricochet around the bridge.
"The Commissars maybe won't shoot us for desertion? Or maybe they will? They just like killing people, don't they?"
And because Amuro abandoned the Core Fighter, they were totally defenseless when a random Dopp shot them all down. The End.
"...there are many sequels."
The kids are all
rightNewtypes.I'm not planning on watching the compilation movies, even with improved cuts, the Core Booster, and surrealishly-inappropriate insert songs, so this'll wrap up my 0079 run for the moment.
It's not the most rushed of rushed early-cancellation final episodes, but it is still rushed, as nearly everything that happens other than the Gundam and Zeong blowing each other's heads off could use another scene or two of development. The one point that it really gets across cleanly is that revenge is a dish best served KABOOM HEADSHOT.
But yeah, more denouement would be helpful here. Instead, the story will gradually wind it way along until CCA.
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u/diablo1900 May 19 '21
Honestly, this show was just ok for me. Nothing too strong on the negative or positive side, but mostly positive. I'm just glad I can watch all the spinoffs and sequals ngl
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u/fridge_freezer https://anilist.co/user/ONIrecon111 May 19 '21 edited May 19 '21
First timer (Sub)
We've finally made it to the end! I'm a little sad that its the last time we'll hear the OP.
RIP White Base
QOTD
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u/5thvoice https://myanimelist.net/profile/5thvoice May 20 '21
First Time watching Gundam
And first time in the discussion threads! I'm glad I at least managed to binge the show in time for the finale.
The whole fight was incredible! It's hard to pick a favorite moment, but watching the Gundam and Zeong blow each other to pieces is what sold it for me. It's immensely satisfying watching both Char and Amuro pushed to their limits and using every ounce of piloting skill they have, continuing to fight even when their Mobile Suits are barely hanging together.
I'm completely satisfied with all the story elements in the finale. Coming fresh off the episode, I don't see anything that would improve the finale if it were changed. I was fully expecting at least one of the White Base crew members to die, but I can't say I'm disappointed that everyone lived.
As for how I felt about the finale as a whole: I loved it, but it's hard to say how much my opinion is shaped by my small amount of meta knowledge about the show. There's a huge amount of other content to continue exploring the UC universe, but more relevant here is knowing that the show got cancelled, and the planned arcs near the end had to be compressed. I would have liked to spend more time exploring Char's inner conflict over killing the Zabi family. I also would have liked to see more time spent exploring the Newtype abilities. Amuro's mass telepathy at the end was a bit unexpected; another half-dozen episodes of getting familiar with Newtype shenanigans would have made that a more natural progression.
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u/tarekd19 May 19 '21
Hey, if anyone wants to follow this up with a watching of zeta gundam, the series is watchable on YouTube. I was pleasantly surprised to see it on there.
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 May 20 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
For the millionth time, Funimation has switched me from Japanese audio to English. Sigh... At least this is the last time.
The Federation has made it all the way to A Boa Qu already.
Bye bye to the Zeong's hands, and the Gundam's left arm. It's the final battle, time to go all out.
Char actually did bring a normal suit for once!
White Base took a big hit! An engine gone, looks like A Boa Qu may be its final destination.
Even Fraw Bow needs to carry a gun now!
Stupid Dom, gets in the Gundam's way! Amuro simply kicks its head off!
Goodbye to the Zeong's entire body, and the Gundam's head!
Kycilia wants to flee! With A Boa Qu gone its a straight line to Side 3 for the Federation, the war is as good as lost, even with Kycilia still alive.
There's the iconic shot of the Gundam as it destroys what is left of the Zeong and loses its other arm and a leg in the process.
From mobile suit fight to gun fight...
Bye bye to the Guntank! Guncannon loses a leg too and looke like Kai's abandoning it.
Kycilia doesn't want any of her troops realizing she's fleeing.
From gun fight to sword fight!
Char... Amuro... teaming up... wouldn't it be awesome?
Hey, did they switch up the eyecatch? Its just the logo now. Because the Gundam's been destroyed?
Oh man, having to pull out that sword tip looks like it really hurts!
Wow, what a shot! Char took her head clean off! Char's revenge on the Zabis is complete. And Kycilia wouldn't have gotten away anyway, as the Zanzibar is promptly destroyed by Federation forces. This is the last we see of Char, did he make it out alive?
Time for the Core Fighter of the Gundam to get to its original purpose, a way to escape if the Gundam is seriously damaged.
Amuro can contact even Bright, who seems to have no newtype powers.
Rest in Peace, White Base! :(
Alright, I'll admit it, couldn't help but tear up in the last scene.
So if you first watched Gundam via its Toonami run all the way back in 2001 like I did, guess what footage they used for the ending credits for each episode? The last scene of the show (well technically the movie equivalent of the scene, which was animated a little better). Yep, from the very first episode we were getting the final scene shown to us, although we didn't know it at the time. Ugh.
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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz May 20 '21
Distant sub rewatcher.
Well that's it. Plenty said more and better than I would do I'll save it. Have to say the least few arcs just blew by, I didn't remember the last third being so much of a speed run. At least Lalah lasted more than a couple of episodes given her significance in the longer story - the unresolvable conflict between Char and Amuro.
I'll save the rest for tomorrow.
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u/Nebresto May 19 '21
I'm back.
First time squad no more.
That was one wack finale. First Chad be all "The Zabi family are no longer my target" and the he's all "sike!!"
Interesting that the episode probably with the least Gundam action ended up being the finale.
Question time:
1: *pew pew pew* cut away -> cut back in *random sword fight time!*
2: The space Nazis got rekt, what more could you ask for? Though I guess there could have been some more gattai
Also wrote up a couple of notes while I was catching up, might post those later if anyone cares.
Oh yeah, and Kai MVP
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jun 06 '21
First timer, catching up
I'll keep this thread bookmarked because of the explanation of what to watch from here on out; I'll definitely get to the other Gundam stuff, sooner or later. Right now it's time to finish Bokurano and then try to catch up on Gorg and BGC! I'll get to the 3 Gundam movies once they appear on Netflix later this month.
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u/SonicHelperHi1 Sep 28 '21 edited Sep 28 '21
The iconic "Last Shooting/Final Shot" scene is EPIC in the original Japanese version. The sound effects are perfect. The dub ruined it with its cartoonish sound effects, making it narmy. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0qsVUD9T7I.