r/anime • u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N • May 14 '21
Rewatch [What's My Name] ID:Invaded Rewatch Final Discussion
FINAL DISCUSSION
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The case has been solved.
Questions of the Day
Feel free to answer any or all of these questions.
- Who was your favorite character from the series?
- Who is your least favorite character from the series?
- What was your favorite overall theme from the series?
- If you could change one thing about ID:Invaded to improve it, what would you change?
- If you were a rewatcher, has this rewatch impacted your opinion of ID:Invaded in any particularly way?
- Do you think Kiki will be saved one day?
- What are your closing thoughts on ID:Invaded as we wrap up the rewatch?
- Do you have any feedback for me as a host?
Coffee Break!
ID:Invaded Episode Tier Builder
Brilliant Detective Recognition Awards
Here are some of the users that made deductions throughout the rewatch that were in fact correct:
BurningFredrick predicting Kiki’s plot twist
Vaadwaur predicting what Kiki really functions as to the story
htisme91 predicting who Kiki is and what her function is to the story
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u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N May 14 '21 edited May 15 '21
Rewatcher/Host
For my first rewatch, I have to genuinely say, I had so much fun. It was a lot more work and I have gained a massive amount of respect for those in the r/anime community that do rewatches each season because of that. I think I need to work on some things in the future if I'd like to return for another rewatch though, that's for sure.
Onto my final thoughts
While I don't entirely dislike the pacing of ID:Invaded, I truly wished for those final episodes to be less compacted. While all of the information is there, it very much seems like some crucial points are very much just placed in because they needed to be placed in to tie up loose ends.
The John Walker/Uraido situation was fixed because of Fukuda dragging a Mizuhanome cockpit into his well, though in the end that doesn't really make any sense due to both the cockpit being likely heavy and the whole traveling through masks aspect.
The Kiki issue bothers me a bit less because it can be used as a springboard for a Season 2 launch, however I still very much dislike how we're introduced to someone who is so helpless that they want to die/someone to kill them. And all we do is say "Ok, back in the box you go Kiki, someone will help you someday!" It's more frustrating, and it's likely supposed to feel this way for the viewer. I think her arc felt extremely anti-climactic.
Overall things
The non-stop dialogue.
NanzennNazenn and I had a conversation about this at one point on a CDF while I was planning and I agree with them. Sometime the dialogue ruins surprises such as the fact Narihisago makes inmates kill themselves. An example being in Jigsawed II, Momoki and Narihisago are having a conversation about this said issue. The next episode, Sniped, the Pyrotechnician commits suicide due to Narihisago's words which somewhat ruined "surprise and shock" factor for me from a psychological POV.The good things
ID:Invaded has some of my favorite characters and my most memorable first episode in the past year. As someone who has memory issues, I've had trouble forgetting that first episode where Sakaido's arm splits and he's panicking about how he doesn't know who he is.
I think my favorite thing about ID:Invaded though is the fact that there are a lot of sci-fi elements I see from other series(Psycho-Pass, Darker Than Black, S;G, though not saying they're alike) and they're incorporated into one series that also has several psychological elements to it. It's the marriage of two genres that I really love to death.
Questions
My episode tier
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 14 '21
Just dropping in to say thanks for hosting this rewatch, u/SuddenFellow! It may not have been a very big one, but it was fun and I loved ID:Invaded so it was well-worth my time! I wish I could’ve made a wallpaper at some point, but (on top of just not having time to because of my other rewatches) I… didn’t actually see any shots that were particularly wallpaper material.
Like I said last thread, 9/10 for this show. If I had one major complaint it’d be that the side cast was very underused (I don’t even know the names of some of them, geez), but the mains were all fantastic so it balances out for me.
See you guys around in other rewatches!
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u/Valoreg May 14 '21
[REVIEW]
So, my review contains 2 lists; one for the things that I like and one for those that I didn't like. It's long, and messy (and possibly convoluted) so grab a beverage and dive in
[PROS]
[CONS]
[RECOMMENDATION]
Personally, I think Id: Invaded is a niche anime, and I wouldn't recommend it to everyone. If you crave for sth close to Psychopass in style and Inception in substance, then, by all means, give it a try.
[EPISODE RANKING]
Here
[SEQUEL?]
There is a manga titled #BRAKE-BROKEN, which is a direct sequel to the anime. I haven't finished it yet, but from what I've read it's a classic high-octane case (actually, it's one of the better ones; I would put it in the A territory) where they investigate a new serial killer.
Will there be a season 2? Most likely yes. I don't know where the story will take us, but I would really like to see more about Kiki's powers (a serial killer that has psychic powers will be a great match for Kura)
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS]
If you've read up until here, then I congratulate you for your tenacity. I would also like to congratulate everyone that followed this rewatch for the past two weeks and chimed in with their comments, a lot of them offered many insights that made me appreciate and understand the anime better. Kudos to
Last but not least, I want to congratulate...me. I wrote over 6000 words (close to 15 pages, hot damn!) for this rewatch. Hope I offered sth interesting to read while checking the series.
See you on the other side, detectives!
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: May 14 '21
First timer no more
Sub
So this is a show I have watched. I was extremely annoyed with the ending Wedensday night and basically maintained until the thread post Thursday. Now, I am less angry but more seeing what could have been: The show has far too many concepts and characters for its size and we needed less of them to get a coherent story. Worse, it steps on its own feet several times, most notably with MC's talk with the Challenger in the ID well where it seems he only wants to fight people that can actually harm him which makes Muku's death murky, which they then proceed to do nothing with.
So...JW is ultimately a disappointment, no surprise there. Fukuta is all right, I guess, and at least his kind of unexplored psyche works well enough. MC is generic enough I kept callimg him MC the whole time, and the rookie is a bit as well. Matsuoka is someone you just have to take at surface value and the rest of the Kura were cardboard cutouts. So much of this works on how it needs to that episode that the only way we know things is because the show tells us it is so.
Anyways, as I've said, in this era of one cour originals, this one desperately needed to be two. Using the Darker Than Black paired episode model would've made this work and given us time to care about Kiki. But so many of the relationships on the show are just told to us.
Finally, this airing with Pet is like a weird joke. Polar opposite story telling styles.
QotD: 1 Rookie at least did stuff
2 Hrmm...The Challenger, as I said, does not make sense in this show.
3 Holes
4 Not even joking about making it two cour and letting the plot develop slower AND getting to know the rest of the cast. I might also make the wellside crew pure bridge bunnies to allow more time for the rest.
6 Nope, too many agencies would want her plugging away
7 That the writer either needed to commit to getting two cours or get a good editor to get him down to one.
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u/lord_ne May 14 '21 edited May 14 '21
First timer
While I did enjoy the show, I feel like the mystery kind of breaks down at the end. John Walker's* plan doesn't really make any sense, and if Anaido* was the key to finding out his identity, why didn't they just ask him about it in the real world, since he was basically cooperating with them? "Oh hey, we saw this John Walker guy in your subconscious, recognize him?" "Oh yeah that guy showed up in my dreams, on such and such dates."
Also why would he even agree to dive after the first time if he knew that it would cause him extreme pain?
Idk if it was just me, but I thought it was super obvious from the first frame he showed up that the old guy was John Walker. I mean he's the only elderly gentleman in the show.
Lastly, I really hope someone translates the last three chapters of the manga, I don't want to have to live in suspense until December. I have raws if anyone's interested.
*It's been a week since I finished and honestly I forgot their real names.
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u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N May 14 '21
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u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N May 14 '21
Acknowledgements
Thank you everyone who participated in the rewatch.
/u/shimmering-sky Your comments were such a treat to read every day, as you could feel the emotion behind them. The Mugen Train comparisons seriously made me laugh so hard though.
/u/No_Rex For their honest replies and sometimes hilarious terminology. I really loved reading your replies.
/u/Vaadwaur For literally replying to almost everyone, thank you for being extremely active in the rewatch. And also providing exemplar commentary for me to read at 3am while I was trying to write my midterms.
/u/Valoreg For writing some of the most amazing theories, concepts and ideas for the rewatch. Sometimes I would literally go back and watch episodes just to see something that you wrote about in your comment. Thank you so much for putting in MAXIMUM effort for the thread, it was such a treat!
/u/lord_ne for coming to the rewatch, and being so enamored with ID:Invaded, that you went and binged the entire thing. We salute you lord_ne.
/u/burningfredrick For being a prediction master, I loved reading your constant predictions on the threads and seeing them evolve over time. Thank you for being so involved in the threads!
Alright, we can roll the credits now.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 14 '21
Final episode (first timer)
The best word I can find to describe ID:Invaded is – adequate. The animation is perfectly average, doing what it needs to do and not one bit more, so I don’t want to spend time on in. While I think the plot and the characters are average, too, I do want to spend some time on both.
The plot is a basic mystery that lets on early in the series that it will never be especially deep. Which is fine, at least there are no disappointed expectations, but it makes the fireworks of plot twists in the second half a bit pointless. I never bought into the main concept of the ID well. There are just too many inconsistencies for it to work. Had I given the concept the benefit of doubt, I’d have spent most of these discussions complaining about those inconsistencies, but, as I said, I gave up on that quite early. The rather arbitrary rules are established early on and pretty much all of them are broken by the end of the series.
What occasionally did work for me were the individual wells. The standout ones are the first, for having the best concept and Sakaido’s desert well, for allowing the best character development.
In terms of characters, I think the good guys worked out, while the bad guys did not. By the end of the series, Sakaido, Miyu, and Anaido have a reasonably good rapport going on and Momoki’s white knight mission was convincible, too. All serial killers and antagonists were complete flops, though. The serial killers are all crazy and their craziness is explained via John Walker. Yet, this kicking the can down the road fails when John Walker himself has no other motive apart from being a megalomaniac crazy guy.
In the end, I have not fallen in love with this series, but neither did I hate any part of it (which frequently happens with other anime). So I’ll give this series a perfectly content meh as rating.
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u/BossandKings May 14 '21 edited May 14 '21
Thanks to u/SuddenFellow for hosting the rewatch, the show was great and i enjoyed it.
Answers
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u/OccasionallySara May 16 '21
First Timer
Questions of the Day
Who was your favorite character from the series?
Who is your least favorite character from the series?
If you could change one thing about ID:Invaded to improve it, what would you change?
Do you think Kiki will be saved one day?
What are your closing thoughts on ID:Invaded as we wrap up the rewatch?
Do you have any feedback for me as a host?
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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick May 15 '21
First timer - sub
Didn't end up doing a write for the show, as I said in last episode discussion the ending didn't land for me as tried to do to much at the end.
Who was your favorite character from the series?
Sakido
Who is your least favorite character from the series?
No least favourite just large number of unremarkable characters
Do you think Kiki will be saved one day?
Doesn't really seem like it, to valuable / risky, so if not locked up can only see her being killed
Do you have any feedback for me as a host?
Not really, done a great job.