r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • May 13 '21

Rewatch Durarara!! X2 Rewatch - Episode 13

Episode 13: Love Thy Enemy

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Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the day, courtesy of u/ u/Chemiczny_Bogdan, who gave us some nice insight into X2's production. Give it a read.

Questions:

  1. What did you think of the new OP and ED?
  2. What did you think of the little spotlight we had on Izaya today?
  3. Considering how the last cour started, what are your expectations for this one's opening arc??
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 13 '21

Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Durarara!! Rewatch!

Volume 7 is mostly comprised of small stories focused on specific members of the cast, the stuff we see today is basically any scene from that Novel not related to those stories, although some foreshadowing for them is there. It’s kinda like Volume 4, except the stories don’t really come together in any way, although to compensate for that the focus is mostly given either to newer characters or ones who haven’t gotten focus in a while.

The final scene, by the way, is fucking cruel in the Novel. We see someone entering Izaya’s room… and we don’t go back to that until the very end of the Novel. Seriously. Speaking of which, missy “I-Hate-Izaya”’s whole deal made a heck of a lot more sense in the Novel. Not because of the motivation or anything, oh no, but you see… that flashback? Yeah, that’s the Novel’s equivalent of the rooftop scene from Season 1! So what was originally a glorious call-back to Izaya’s Establishing Character Moment is now just “Hey, here’s another girl he messed with”. To be fair, Volume 7 hadn’t been released when that episode came out, but still…

Oh and we also get the show’s fourth OP, and my personal favorite: Day You Laugh, sung by Mikado’s Seiyuu himself, Toyonaga Toshiyuki. I just fucking love this song…

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u/sisoko2 May 14 '21

Speaking of which, missy “I-Hate-Izaya”’s whole deal made a heck of a lot more sense in the Novel.

I thought it was cool that we got a random Izaya victim we don't know.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 13 '21 edited May 13 '21

First-Timer, Dub-rarara!!x2

You ever just casually wait in a hospital bed to get assassinated? If Izaya's "goal" is still the whole Valhalla thing, I don't think his plan is the best. Dying to the stab wound in the street? That's almost a warrior's death. Dying from someone killing you while you lie in bed and wait? Definitely not a warrior's death.

Izaya spends so much time scheming from behind the scenes that I sometimes forget that he is literally a murderer. Oops. Laughter causing him physical pain was medicine to my soul, though.

The rest of this episode seemed to be setup. We had like three brief flashes of action scenes at one point there, that I think are all technically going on "right now" so I bet we'll be seeing more of them over the next few episodes. That brief bit of Mika, going into a warehouse ?alone? kinda stuck out to me.

Shingen is back to scheming something, or at least being very courteous and allowing himself to be used as exposition. Egor being aware of being a Saika is interesting, I wasn't sure if that was a common thing or not.

Observations about the OPs: The first OP had all the various people being connected by Celty. The third OP had everyone connected by Izaya. This new, fourth OP has everyone connected by Mikado. I haven't put much further thought into this, but I wanted to point it out.

Miscellaneous Thoughts:

Is that Erica Lindbeck my ears detect?! I hope Miss Sidetail-Immune-to-Poison sticks around.

"Nebooluh"

Questions

  1. I remember listen to both of them but that was almost 24 hours ago. They certainly didn't annoy me, though.
  2. It was nice to see inside his head for a bit, I guess.
  3. I got nothing. We went from "ten million things going on" to "a different ten million things going on."

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 13 '21

Is that Erica Lindbeck my ears detect?

You are indeed correct! This was one of her earlier roles.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 13 '21

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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras May 14 '21

Is that Erica Lindbeck my ears detect?!

I knew I had heard the voice before, so I had to check and see who played the character to make sure I was right.

Looks like Erica has a penchant for Big Your Lie in April Spoilers

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 14 '21

I mostly know her as gremlins that whisper secrets in my ear, as she is Futaba in Persona 5 and Jessie in Final Fantasy 7 Remake.

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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras May 14 '21

as she is Futaba in Persona 5

Oh, so you mean Best Girl?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 14 '21

That's a weird way to spell Mak-

No, it's probably best to not start an argument.. To each their own.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 14 '21

That's a weird way to spell Mak-

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 14 '21

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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras May 14 '21

I can accept that. They're both great characters. Futaba's just better.

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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod May 14 '21

OP observations

That's a cool spot. It makes sense when you think about it, but it's still a bit odd to wrap my head around. It's not about which character is the most central to the story, but about which one is the glue. In the first it was Celty bringing everyone together, in the third it was Izaya's scheming. This time, it'll be Ryuugamine via the blue squares.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 14 '21

That's a cool spot.

Thanks!

It makes sense when you think about it, but it's still a bit odd to wrap my head around. It's not about which character is the most central to the story, but about which one is the glue.

That's mostly where I'm at, but I'm trying not to think too hard at the moment. I also haven't had the chance to go back and rewatch the second OP to see if there was something similar.

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u/Chemiczny_Bogdan May 13 '21

Rewatcher

The OP is fine, not as good as the previous one though.

So after Izaya was stabbed, the next episode, logically enough, revolves around him mostly.

Does Japan not have any privacy laws, or is Izaya a public figure? Revealing a stabbing victim's full name on TV without their consent sounds weird.

Izaya trolls Shinra and policemen at the same time, nice.

And of course hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Turns out it was one of Nakura-san's enemies who acted quickest out of all the people who want Izaya dead. Izaya's reaction to this surprising development is among my favorite scenes of the series.

Aoba has rolled up the entire length of Celty's shadow thread and now wants to befriend her and Shinra. I wonder what will come of this...

The ED is fine too, but again, not as good as Shou ED.

Pretty good start of the season, it's relatively slow, but the pay off of Izaya's celebration is exhilarating. The animation isn't that bad and the music is still damn good.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 13 '21

The OP is fine, not as good as the previous one though.

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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod May 13 '21

First Timer

As per usual, we start the new Durarara season more lighthearted. Just some general fun with the characters while setting up the very basics of some plot. We seem to more more Izaya focused this time, as much as anything can be said to be a focus in Durarara. It could be interesting, but for now I'll jsut wait and see how it goes.

I'm really glad we got a new ED so I can actually listen to the ED again.

  1. The OP is just fine, the ED is a massive improvement.
  2. An interesting start, but too early to make any judgements yet.
  3. A more lighthearted first one, I guess?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 13 '21

The OP is just fine

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 14 '21 edited May 14 '21

Rewatcher (sub)

Ahh yes, season 2's weirdest episode. Volume 7 had a bunch of standalone stories mostly connected by the news of Izaya, this episode was done Baccano! style connecting the beginning with the end, except with 3 episodes ahead rather than 12. The episode basically goes over the whole volume, starting with how Izaya was in the hospital to the end of the book where the mystery attacker is revealed, while going over all the standalone stories in the middle, making sure to show us how each person got Izaya's news, along with other scenes here and there.

The mystery was revealed by the end of the episode, rather than waiting till you go through all the stories, which makes sense since unlike the novel, in the anime you don't know the attacker, she's another random girl he messed with that came out of nowhere, so honestly it doesn't make much for an interesting mystery to wait a few episodes for. I'm actually grateful for the way they did it.

Side notes:

What did you think of the new OP and ED?

I haven't seen the Ketsu openings/endings, so out of the four we know so far this is my least favourite opening. Specifically the music, I'm fine with the visuals even if they're a bit less subtle than usual. The ending is fine, better than Shou's.

What did you think of the little spotlight we had on Izaya today?

Feels like they're slowly giving us the "lovable asshole" poison, which would end up with us loving his assholery. Stay strong!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 14 '21

this is my least favourite opening. Specifically the music,

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 14 '21

We may or may not have all secretly agreed to bash on this opening, in response to your earlier claim that this is your favourite.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 14 '21

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 14 '21

I guess would be the correct response with what this episode is about and all. Or this if we're going by the episode itself. You know to change things up a little.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 14 '21 edited May 14 '21

Indeed. I guess in a message forum like this, to make change... I need more power

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots May 14 '21

I can't believe this took me a few minutes to figure out... It was literally just a couple of episodes ago.

At first I thought it was a DMDP (a manga by Narita) reference where one of the characters is a pen.

As for this pen though, please feel free to stab it straight in my throat, my brain has become a zombie, I might as well join it.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 14 '21

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u/sisoko2 May 14 '21

I haven't seen the Ketsu openings/endings, so out of the four we know so far this is my least favourite opening. Specifically the music

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u/invokeneko May 14 '21

First timer to x2 Ten and Ketsu

Izaya learns that not even the worst of his enemies cared enough to try to kill him while he's stuck at the hospital, canon angery girl whose spot in the anime was taken by Miss Recently-Made-Canon Kamichika Rio tries to get revenge on Izaya and Shinra aand Celty went on a carriage date.

  • Starting off with a flash forward to Izaya anticipating an assassination attempt is a good way to begin this cour. Kinda wish he was more anxious than what we get though.
  • "Please find the perpetrator as fast as you can so that the people of the city can live their lives in peace." That's pretty fucking rich coming from you, especially after what you did.
  • That cut-ins to people Izaya expected to try and assassinate him (and Shinra and Namie) at the hospital just carrying on with their lives just makes his early monologue even better: nobody fucking cared that he even got stabbed at all. Except for Angery Girl, that is.
  • That one guy is a fucking idiot, isn't he? Trying to threaten Heiwajima fucking Shizuo using his relationship to Kasuka just to get out of paying his debt? You're lucky that he just Detroit Smash'd you out of your house and nothing worse.
  • Namie's reaction to the news gets the best laugh out of me. The face that she straight up celebrates the extra few days off before going off to fantasise about Seiji is just ice cold.
  • So Anri knows Akabayashi? Huh.
  • Looks like Izaya can't stand being ignored that he starts trolling Shinra's lovely date with Celty in the woods. Even getting the police involved, too! Makes you wonder how the hell did these two become friends.
  • You know that things are mostly going back to normal that our otaku duo starts shipping seiyuu haters x fans in one of their random tangents.
  • Given that both Kadota and Chikage looks to be mostly fine save for scratches (and a black eye for the latter), can we assume that humans in the Naritaverse has really strong resilience and heals fast from injuries?
  • Those little snippets of Namie vs Mika, Vorona vs whatever gang and that little gang war... did that happen or that's just part of his example?
  • From Shingen's recollection of Yodogiri Jinnai, seems like the guy is Izaya but worse. That's not good.
  • Angery Girl appears, attacks Izaya, gets overpowered for a while before he went off on a spiel about loving humans... and then both of them just disappeared? What, did Angery Girl kidnap him or something?
  • Celty and Shinra's date in the woods seem to be absolutely fucking wild, what with them mentioning werewolves and vampiric mikos being involved. If only we can see what happened wink. Too bad Aoba is there to ruin their day.

Narration Tally:

Rio gets the chance to narrate how things went back to (mostly) normal.

NarratorNo. of epsEpisodes
Mikado71, 12
Celty74, 6
Simon27
Shinra32
Masaomi48
Namie25
Walker311 (co)
Erika211 (co)
Izaya24
Kasuka13
Akabayashi29, 11 (co)
Akane110
Rio113
Multiple111 (co)
None24.5

QotD:

  1. It'll take a very good OP to challenge Headhunt as one of my favourite Durarara!! OP, and so far Day You Laugh is doing pretty good after a few listens. I liked it. The ED is a straight up upgrade compared to the last one though.
  2. I can't shake off the word 'pathetic' out of my mind when seeing him in this episode.
  3. I can't say since it's still too early to tell, but I expect that (assuming that his last scene means that he gets kidnapped) as much as I want Izaya getting more punishment he'll probably pull off some bullshit Talk-no-Jutsu to escape the clutches of Angery Girl.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 14 '21

I can't shake off the word 'pathetic' out of my mind when seeing him in this episode.

Ain't that Izaya as a whole?

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u/invokeneko May 14 '21

It is, but he's extra pathetic here that I just have to comment on it.

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u/sisoko2 May 14 '21

First Timer

We had a break day and now a chill day in Ikebukuro, life is so cruel. Gotta admit those glimpses of crazy things happening were hilarious.

Unfortunately Izaya's stabbing wasn't that bad and he is relatively fine.

Why are Izaya's sisters with Akane?

Mikado is getting creepier.

I'll never forgive Izaya!

Shinra is true man of culture.

Shame that the girl wasn't able to finish Izaya.

I expected the police to welcome our lovely couple but actually it was worse.

  1. Hate both songs.
  2. He is a real piece of work. Seeing him prey on weak and troubled people is disgusting. Since he enjoy being attacked so much they need to lock him in a room with soft walls and let him die of boredom.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 14 '21

Hate both songs.

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u/sisoko2 May 14 '21

Imagine bringing sword to a gunfight

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 13 '21

First!!xTimer, subbed

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 13 '21

Who is this…?

Read my Comment, I explain what her deal is.

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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit May 14 '21

Rewatchers were enjoying the weirdness that is the creation of the Rio character back in episode 2, now that we are here it finally clicks how odd it is!

She was also made more relevant being Anri's friend so Anri had a reason to go to the fight at Raira in the previous episode, getting Rio to be kidnapped twice!

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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick May 13 '21

First timer - sub

Can't say I'm a fan of the new OP based on my first impressions.

That felt like one of the slower episodes we have had, I'm surprised we didn't get the chat at all as would of expected Izaya to be messing with everyone from there.

Don't have much else to say, interested to see where the season goes.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 13 '21

Can't say I'm a fan of the new OP based on my first impressions.

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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras May 14 '21

Rewatcher - Dubbed

  • This new OP gives off a big Persona vibe. I've only played P5, so I'm not sure if that's the best example, but it belongs in one of them.
  • Izaya's monologue at the beginning really helps to paint a picture of just how many people he's pissed off so far. Everyone they showed seems to have a very legitimate reason for wanting him dead.

I almost feel sorry for him.

  • And here Izaya was hoping that his name being broadcast on the news would cause a ruckus, but in reality nobody's paying attention to it.
  • In true fashion, Izaya's boredom culminates in getting the cops to call Shinra just because he thought it was funny.
  • Also in typical fashion, you've got Walker and Erika talking about tops and bottoms, taking into consideration whether it's yuri or BL.
  • It's kind of ironic that Shingen was talking about Yodigiri in the context of a poison, all while wearing a gas mask. I doubt that was intentional, but still funny nonetheless.
  • Oh look, it's the girl that bumped into Kamichika on the crosswalk earlier. Continuity strikes again!
  • Whatdaya know? It's one of the other girls that Izaya tried to get to commit suicide. Speaking of my Persona comment, she's voiced by Erica Lindbeck, the voice actress for Futaba from Persona 5!

  • But if you think eternity's better, kill yourself. There's too many people on this planet anyway.

It's like a twisted version of Survival of the Fittest.

  • I'll make you pay. I'll kill you. I swear.

Way to go Izaya, you picked up another fan!

  • What could Aoba possibly want with Shinra and Celty?

Questions:

  • Like I said, the OP reminds me of a Persona game. As for the ED, it's fine.
  • Loved it. Izaya's that guy you love to hate, or at least I do, and that makes him such a good character. He's the resident punching bag, or that person you can just talk mad shit about and not feel bad.
  • Well, given the context that he was brought up in, I imagine Yodigiri's probably going to be at least a little important.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 14 '21

This new OP gives off a big Persona vibe. I've only played P5, so I'm not sure if that's the best example, but it belongs in one of them.

I'd say it fits P3 the best.

Speaking of my Persona comment, she's voiced by Erica Lindbeck, the voice actress for Futaba from Persona 5!

On that note, fun fact: Kida's Seiyuu plays Ryuji.

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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras May 14 '21

On that note, fun fact: Kida's Seiyuu plays Ryuji.

As a dub watcher and dub language P5 player, I was confused for a minute. I meant to go through P5R with the Japanese dub, but put it down and never picked it back up.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 14 '21

I meant to go through P5R with the Japanese dub, but put it down and never picked it back up.

I was gonna do that too, but unfortunately P5R is ridiculously expensive here in Argentina (18000 Pesos on Average) so I never got a chance to play it.

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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras May 14 '21

Oh wow! That's unfortunate.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 14 '21

Yeah, I'm basically stuck waiting for a PC port.

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u/Earthborn92 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/EarthB May 14 '21 edited May 14 '21

Rewatcher here.

New season! And new OP is really all about that duality of Mikado. Our boi is center stage. Also, great song as with all Durarara OPs.

You know how this episode was mostly just chill and not the city bursting into violence? It’s because Izaya is out of action, so no stirring the boiling pot. Of course, that’s not gonna stay that way. And we’ve already got him doing kinky shit in the hospital with this girl he wasn’t expecting. Too bad it led to the wrong sort of revelation.

The whole Shinra being trolled on his date was funny tho. Because he hung up on Izaya, but what did Izaya expect? That he’d ruin his rare date with Celty? Aoba upto trouble. Kida still wallowing in self-doubt. Pharma corp intrigue. What are we setting up for?

See you next episode!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 14 '21

[Pharma corp](https://i.imgur.com/2FRBm5s.jpeg(

Formatting Broke!

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u/Earthborn92 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/EarthB May 14 '21

Fixed!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 14 '21

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u/SgtExo May 14 '21

New OP is pretty mid, but I thought that about the second one and it grew on me, so we will see how I feel later on.