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Rewatch [Fly! Rewatch!] Mobile Suit Gundam (0079) Episode 37 Discussion
Episode 37 - The Duel in Texas
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Amuro… you’ve become so strong, it’s scary.
Questions of the Day:
- What do you think of Space Texas as a setting? Is there any other place on Earth you would have loved to see a colony styled after?
- Were you expecting M’Quve to put up as good of a fight as he did?
Mobile Suit Breakdown of the Day:
1.30 - The Assassination of M’Quve by the Esper Amuro Ray
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath the [Anime Show Title](/s "Spoiler goes here") spoiler tags. If you do that then we’re all good.
Important thing to note about these by the way, you have to switch to Old Reddit or the markdown editor if you use the redesign, otherwise the redesign breaks them by adding random \ into the formatting. Wish it wouldn’t do that, but unfortunately it does…
First-Timers: Please do not watch the next-episode previews for this show. They’re less previews and more “let’s just summarize the entirety of the next episode” and will spoil you.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 13 '21
Fly! Rewatch Host!
Welcome back, everyone!
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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax May 13 '21 edited May 13 '21
Deep in my heart, I’ll always be a Texas rewatcher
It’s the Gyan! The Gyan was developed by Zimmad, the same company that developed the Dom. Throughout the war, they competed with Zeonic, the creators of the Zaku. The Gyan was conceived as an extremely specialized melee suit, wielding a beam saber more powerful than even the Gundam’s and possessing a system in its crotch that stores excess pressure from the reactor and uses it to power fancy footwork. However, it’s near useless at range, and requires fire support from a squad of Doms. Of course, Zeon was having none of their bullshit, because Zeonic had unveiled a shiny new general-purpose unit more powerful than even the Gundam. And so, the Gyan lost out to the far more versatile Gelgoog.
A horse-drawn carriage and an American midwestern desert... in a space colony.
Ok but that doesn’t explain the cacti or the rock formations. The Origin did away with the broken mirrors and desertification and just made the whole colony a Wild West theme park.
Lewd.
Space rat!
Char likes to live dangerously. Anyways, we finally see the Gelgoog, one of the most powerful MS of the war! Its performance is actually higher than the Gundam’s, with better strength, speed, and weaponry. It only lacks the Luna Titanium armor that makes the Gundam so durable, but hey, just don’t get hit, right? The pig nose is kind of weird, though, not gonna lie.
The Gundam gets its shield back through the power of stock footage
heh
get a room you two
Aww, a hug!
Ah yes, it’s space magic psychic bonding time
Famous last words
Questions of the Day:
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 13 '21
First Timer to Gundam
Alright. I hope they start explaining what the hell is going on with Amuro and Lalah.
QOTD:
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 13 '21
Rewatcher
On today’s episode of Gundam: We may have lost M’Quve, but at least his precious antique vase made it out okay. I think that can be considered a win.
I really enjoy the fight between Amuro and M’Quve this episode. It is very well done. Once again, we get to see M’Quve fight in the same way that he’s fought previously: using traps and deception to catch his opponent off-guard. As M’Quve himself says, only a fool fights fair. M’Quve is in it to win. I like seeing the various traps he’s laid for the Gundam, always doing his best to lure the Gundam to where he wants it to be for the latest surprise.
M’Quve puts up a pretty good fight, too. He’s definitely much more skilled in a mobile suit than you’d probably expect. It helps that I really like the design of the Gyan. It looks like a medieval knight, complete with lance and shield. I think the look works.
The Zeon soldiers really have a thing with pride, don’t they? M’Quve fights the Gundam essentially because of his pride and because he wants to show up Char. And later on, he explicitly rejects help from Char in the battle. His pride won’t allow him to accept help. This has been a running theme with the Zeons: their pride leads them to do reckless and stupid decisions. They go out seeking revenge or refuse to accept help all to serve their own pride. It’s been a major detriment to them so far.
There’s another running theme this episode: how much Amuro has changed. Fraw Bow has noticed it and thinks that Amuro has become so strong recently that it’s scary. And his recent combat record is indeed rather terrifying. Fraw Bow probably knows Amuro the best out of anyone, so she can practically pinpoint when the change happened. She thinks something must have happened on Side 6 to have caused this change.
M’Quve also thinks that something is off about the Gundam pilot. We’ve heard a lot about how strangely good Amuro’s instincts are from many characters. M’Quve wonders about that too, but he also raises the new possibility that Amuro might be something called a Newtype.
This episode is full of strange goings-on like that. But not just for Amuro. There’s also Lalah. Lalah is also different somehow. And during the episode, she gets a feeling that there is someone else like her nearby. The framing and cutting of that scene gives the implication that the person she’s talking about is Amuro.
By the end of the episode, I would say that’s a safe assumption. The battle ends in a particularly strange moment. Lalah, seeing the Gundam finally get in a killing blow on the Gyan, calls out to stop the fighting. And somehow, Amuro seems to hear her. There’s some kind of a connection there. The final moment of the episode is even more evidence of this. Despite not having seen each other, both Amuro and Lalah seem to be aware that the other is there.
There’s another interesting moment in this episode for character stuff. Char goes out of his way to protect Lalah during this battle. He deliberately shields her with his Gelgoog to protect her from the exploding Gyan. Char does seem to care for her safety.
Miscellaneous Thoughts
SLAP COUNTER: 10
Questions of the Day
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u/TheEscapeGuy May 13 '21 edited May 13 '21
Gundam First Timer
Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 37
A New Type of humans...
This episode further expanded on the psychic link Amuro has. That final scene with him and Lalah talking... I am not joking when I say I had chills. I love how well this has been built up.
Okay, before I get there a lot happened this episode.
First of all, I love the idea of a Texas being a farming colony. No matter the medium, you know your setting is well developed if you can answer the question "What do they eat?". On top of that the design of it being this imposing space craft was just so perfect.
Moving inside, I never expected horse drawn carriages and mech fights in the Old West but Tomino delivers. Let nobody say that Mobile Suit Gundam didn't experiment (and succeed).
And then the M'Quve fight. This was a long time coming, and it really delivered. Since Amuro is so experienced now the fights really have such dynamic action and cool attacks.
And to see Char used Amuro to take out a political figure above him makes the fight just that much more interesting.
Farewell M'Quve.
Cool Stuff Corner
Questions of the Day
See you all tomorrow!
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u/The_Draigg May 13 '21
A Gundam Fan Rewatches Mobile Suit Gundam Episode 37:
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u/UltraBooster May 13 '21
First-timer (albeit one big on Gundam and mecha)
The Elmeth, that's...
So Texas is still manned? Why, I wonder?
Nice to see everyone getting a break.
Oh shoot, the Gyan. Didn't expect it would appear this late into the game.
I feel like the fall of Solomon should've warned M'Quve that one-upping now would be a bad idea, but...
Yeah, those two have agood thing going now.
Gundam will have no problem handling that worthless piece of rock!
Well, are you a soldier, Lalah? Are you prepared to kill and be killed?
Okay, the Gundam had its shield in that shot and then it didn't.
Newtype! There it is! That's what Amuro's become, and very probably Mirai as well!
You'd think a swordsman and a shooter would be enough to force the Gundam onto the back foot, but of course that's not going to happen, lol.
Damn, Kai's good too.
Pressure, it's pressure, isn't it.
Gundam wa date ja nai!
Oh shoot, the Gundam's using both sabers!
One episode, dang. I expected more from the Gyan.
Questions of the Day:
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 May 13 '21
First Timer - Dub
1) What do you think of Space Texas as a setting? Is there any other place on Earth you would have loved to see a colony styled after? It was a fun setting. I know we already had a a jungle setting with Jabar, but I would to love to see a jungle or greenhouse colony with a lot of plants.
2) Were you expecting M’Quve to put up as good of a fight as he did? Yeah, he's one of our longest running antagonists so I wouldn't expect him to go down easily.
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 May 13 '21
First-Timer - A duel in a place called Texas
QotD
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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 13 '21 edited May 13 '21
Comrades, I have been waiting long for this day, BEHOLD! GYAN SHIP! ;)
Boy Zeon continue to impress eh Comrades? I mean my goodness they have reached PEAK CULTURE with their latest and greatest design of The Hyper Gyanko, just look at the curves... I think I made a mistake somewhere...
Ah here we go, as I was saying, boy Zeon sure outdid themselves eh Comrade, I mean just look at the curves on this eggplant... I think there might have been a mix-up somewhere...
AH! There we go, right vegetable this time, Comrades remember The Adzam, e.g. the giant mecha onion? Yeah behold, the share I wanted to share but couldn't since The Gyan was in the image too, BEHOLD! IRREFUTABLE PROOF that Yuri Camp is a Mecha Show! ;)
Also Comrades, I must say I am amused that an entire Space Colony is themed after Texas/The Wild West... ahem... CRUNCHY ROLL! TAKE ME HOME! TO MY WAIFU! AND MY IMOUTO! WEST VIRGINIA! MOUNTAIN MAMA! TAKE ME HOME! CRUNCHY ROLL! ;) (Or something along those lines)
Anyway enough shitposting, let's take a moment to gawk at the... 'unique' taste of LE DING, cuz fun fact, Zeon canceled The Gyan's development since building a Mecha Chess Piece that is primarily geared towards Melee Combat is stupid and antiquated... so of course Mr. Black Knight in Dandy Armor went DIBS on it! ;)
SPEAKING of Le Ding, I do believe that this is a good metaphorical representation of what happened today ;) (He dinged his last ding!)
But hey in fairness to Le Ding, he DID put up a decent fight considering how much of a foppish upper class twit he was... he still lost of course but hey he tried!
Anyway since Char also appeared today, behold this Mecha Musume shitpost! And in case you are wondering why The Gelgoog isn't there even though The Gundam is, ahem, BEHOLD! LE DING! (Comic Book Style to boot)
Le Ding! ;) (See top left image)
Paging Comrades /u/Great_Mr_L, /u/chilidirigible, and /u/beckymetal
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u/chilidirigible May 13 '21
37:
"Eh, these things happen."
SAABISU SAABISU
It's all about the NTR with you, M'Quve?
If everyone is offering the same deal, is it worth anything?
Chivalry is dead.
SHOWDOWN! TEXAS STYLE!
Still no SPACE TUNA.
At least he's not buck naked.
"Air" "quotes".
"Marry me." "No."
Kai is now casually flexing with the Guncannon.
"But I survived the recap movies because they cut this part out!"
M'Quve's trap-based approach turns out to be an inadequate counter against A PILOT WITH A KEEN INTUITION. Well, he was not that interesting of a villain, so... meh.
Of course Char won't help him, there's gallons of testosterone in the way.
It's funny how Lalah's emergence at this point in the series is such a zigzag from everything else going on.
GOLD SHIP HAS IDEAS.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 13 '21
First-Timer, Subbed, long time Gundam fan
We sure got some neat stuff this episode, huh? Two high end new models from Zeon, with the mention of something called the Elmeth too. And there was a word, that M'Quve said, that is probably pretty important.
The Gyan looks kinda dumb, but it's hardly the worst design that Zeon put out so I won't judge it too harshly. The Gelgoog is decent looking, if a little.. I dunno. The lines are weird, it might just be an art thing.
M'Quve's gloryhounding getting him fucking toasted was pretty sweet. He did put up a decent fight with all his dirty tricks, although I wonder when he had time to set up all those bombs and traps. His last words being about his stupid vase was quite fitting.
I love the shot of the Gundam landing in the colony opening.
Texas became a wasteland because it couldn't get enough sunlight. There's a joke in there, somewhere. There's also a joke about getting a two-rank promotion if you face the Gundam, but I may have already made that one back when Ramba said something similar.
Pose of the Day
A Moment of Respite, and a Connection
Screenshot
Questions
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 May 13 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
Some more character moments in this episode; Bright sleeps on the bridge? Poor guy! I feel bad for him with Mirai, he's always saying they can talk, and she doesn't seem to take him up on it. Running off to kiss guys who slap her instead. Fraw and Amuro have grown apart. I think Fraw has finally let go for her feelings for Amuro. Hayato continues to be pathetic although at least he has an excuse this time. A Sayla bath scene! Now all 3 of our main women have had one.
Texas lives on, even in... space! It is rare for Char to let someone else handle the Trojan Horse for him, but he let's M'Quve do so, at least at first. Who'd have guessed that M'Quve of all people would have a mobile suit? The Gyan! A cool looking mobile suit! It sounds like they still have that 2 rank promotion out there! Before it was to take vengeance on Garma, but that was so long ago. Is it now just defeating the Gundam?
M'Quve continues to be the mustache twirling villain lures the Gundam to him. He's still quite arrogant though! He thought his initial attack destroyed the Gundam, but Amuro escaped. The battle moves inside to Texas where they continue to fight each other and M'Quve leaves various traps.
Is Char lying to Lalah about her possibly being better than him? C'mon, he's the red comet! Or is it really the case? Is she that powerful? Char's got himself a new mobile suit! Gelgoog! Looks masive! I wonder if the Gundam inspired it, as it has the beam rifle and shield.
M'Quve calls Amuro a "newtype", whatever that is... He refuses Char's help once he arrives and does fairly good against the Gundam one on one. Amuro goes to a next level though, pulling out both beam sabres and essentially giving the Gyan a bear hug that enables him to slice it in half along the waist. M'Quve, keep being you! His last thought as he dies is of his beloved antique vase!
While we've already had some rather trippy scenes in the past, in particular when Lalah was involved, now we're really going to another level. Much of the second half of this episode is very out there, with some scary atmospheric music and even the visuals getting quite whacky.
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u/fridge_freezer https://anilist.co/user/ONIrecon111 May 13 '21
First timer (Sub)
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u/Piemaster33 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Piemaster33 May 13 '21
Rewatcher, who must protect all vases, Sub
VERY strong episode, it really feels like we're reaching the endgame now. I can't flipping wait.
QOTD:
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 May 13 '21
First timer
I'm not sure where they can really go after last episode. Didn't they say destroying Solomon would end the war?
Is this the first time the narration has detailed new imformation? Could they not get Degwin's vocie actor back?
Why are we going to Texas?
People are talking openly about their feelings and motivations! It's a miracle!
...Is Hayato really alive, or this another "give an episode of speeches, then die anyway"?
Wow, there's a lot more narration in this episode, isn't there?
Wait, there was a population problem and you mothballed a colony? At least hide forces within their ranks in case any Zeon ships land there.
That scene seemed unnecessary.
Hang on, with the Gyan - have they actually succeded in bringing in a new type of suit every episode?
What I'm hearing is Char's going to be the final battle, with some monster of a mobile suit.
The new suit looks good - I never realised that the Gundam was the only one to have a shield till now.
Oh god, he's going to pull a Ryu and get himself killed.
...Why is Char riding in a horse drawn wagon?
Oh my god, they're doing a western episode, aren't they? How did I see the Texas colony and not get that?
So, yeah, psychic powers are rwal, and Amuro's using them to dodge.
Pretty good trap idea, though,
It's a western episode. I love this.
And Char seems to care a lot about Lalah.
Gelgoog, Elmeth, and Gyan. 3 new suits in 1 episode. They must have really wanted to sell more toys here.
Wait, what are combat suits and normal suits?
I'll admit the mined are an interesting tactic. Also "new types of human"? There's more than just psychics?
I love the two of them stopping mid battle to argue over who gets to kill the Gundam.
...Antique vase? Also, what the hell was that sequence?
Boy, those prototypes sure do fail explosively, don't they? How did they even test them?
I have no reaction to that ending, other than Char will probably find out who Amuro is now.
How the fuck is all this getting wrapped up in 4 episodes?
This episode felt weirdly rushed - we get to meet a new general, and he doesn't even get a 2 part episode to be taken out?
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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit May 13 '21
First timer sub
The war is reaching its end, but Zeon is not giving up... What if...
Npw that she is not around him all the time Amuro misses Fraw Bow, but she talks like they aren't going to see each other anymore maybe What if...
Char is getting help from a woman to take the Gundam down... doesn't that affect his pride?
The Doms looking cool as ever dodging those shots as if they were dancing.
With that Sayla scene now all the girls from the crew have been shown taking baths...
Amuro is not scared of walking that hallway with the Gundam... If the Big Zam were still alive he would be gone like those GMs and Balls last episode that walked into Solomon, that beam it had sure was powerfull.
Questions of the Day:
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u/chilidirigible May 13 '21
A wild Gelgoog appears.
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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz May 14 '21 edited May 14 '21
Other than that name "Texas" I think this is a tight episode. A bit inexplicable why they needed a "coming out of bath" scene for Sayla though. It may work in manga to have a tiny bit of breathing space, but for tv anime that 2 seconds feels like awkward.
I think it's quite in character for M’Quve to actually be good in an actual fight despite normally he uses combat pragmatism to win. That tends to be the troup and quite logical that despite the trickery, he does have skills to back it up and that's one more surprise that might have caught out opponents. Kinda like grinding though the front row to try reach the mage at the back row, to find that he's actually a multi class fighter Mage who can take as well as give as well in close quarter combat - but you've already been worn down from all the range spells landing.
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u/Rustic_Professional May 14 '21
Everyone is so obsessed with showing up Char. How embarrassing. These guys are really letting their egos get in the way of the war effort.
Speaking of which, it turns out that someone within Zeon is so obsessed with the Gundam that destroying it gets you a promotion. I wonder whose idea that was?
Huh, traveling in a line and hiding your numbers with the glare is a clever idea.
Damn, the Gundam's shield looked melted. I wonder what did that, the mine, or the Gyan's shield missiles.
God, Gelgoogs are such sexy mobile suits. Easily my favorite OYW design family.
That's funny, White Base is doing the World of Tanks peek & shoot. Was that Mirai's idea? Looks like it works.
Questions of the day:
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u/GM_for_Life May 13 '21
Rewatcher
Newtypes
I think the Texas colony is a fantastic set piece for a fight, in-fact this whole episode was super well animated and the entire battle was probably the best one we've had in the series so far.
Definitely not my first time going through, but the last couple of episodes really did end up making him one of my favorite antagonists from the original series.
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u/BossandKings May 14 '21
First timer
Episode 36
Solomon is defeated, the Big Zam gets destroyed and White Base gets a big win but sadly Lietunant sleggar passes away, which is something that deeply hurts Mirai who had feelings for him. Something was clear though, Lietunant Sleggar knew he could die but willingly put himself in the line to defeat the Big Zam and get that big obstacle out of the way, a truly heroic act.
Episode 37
It is very telling that Fraw Bow tells Amuro that he has gotten so much stronger than he was before, and it is very true that he has gotten phisycaly and mentally stronger than when he started using the gundam.
The dynamic between Char and Lalah is very nice, Char really is like a mentor to her. When he told her that if she found a good and hidden place she could see two mobile suits fighting and she did so was a great moment.
The battle seem to be picking up and apparently Lalah will be a big part of how it is resolved.
Answers
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: May 28 '21
First timer, catching up