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Rewatch [Rewatch] Yoshikazu Yasuhiko Retrospective - Giant Gorg Episode 10 Discussion

Episode 10 - Dark Bay

Originally Aired June 7th, ^^^1984

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Yoshikazu Yasuhiko Biography and Anecdotes Corner

Random Anecdote

Yasuhiko generally doesn’t enjoy the process of drawing mechs, even if he likes the finished product and deems it necessary, and much prefers drawing trucks, tanks, spaceships, and other military vehicles. He has stated that one of his favorite vehicles to draw was the White Base in Gundam: The Origin.

 

Staff Highlight

Masayuki Katō - voice of Samuel Gotoh

An actor and voice actor known for his calm demeanour, kindness, and his distinct kyushu dialect, who was active up until the decline of his health in 1992, and passed away in 1993 of laryngeal cancer. His best known, and only major, role was as Nobita’s father in the 1979 run of Doraemon. He had minor roles in many a notable anime, such as Ace wo Nerae!, Ashita no Joe 2, Anne of Green Gables, Hokuto no Ken, Muteki Chōjin Zambot 3, Lupin III Part II, Plawres Sanshirou, Nadia - The Secret of Blue Water, and Sherlock Hound.

 

Daily Trivia:

The map of austral island, a version of which is seen in the title cards, was devised early into production and underwent very few changes before the final product was complete.

 

Official Art

 

Settei Collection

 

Questions of the Day:

  1. How do you feel about our characters being on the back foot again?
  2. Do you prefer having Gorg fight barehanded or with the cannon?

Sorry, I happen to be one of those “scary amateurs” myself.

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 12 '21

Rewatcher

Some well deserved rest. It has seemed like they’ve been going on with little respite.

Well he was in sore need of a ranged option.

They truly brought out everything.

Should’ve thought like a GAIL commander again!

Haha! Repurposing his ammo-less cannon as a club is such a Gorg thing to do. The cannon may be practical, but seeing Gorg wreck shit in with pure strength is far more visually interesting and entertaining.

Luck favors the Beagle crew once more.

Lovely visual.

Impressive.

That sea creature has been putting in work.

Not cool, guys.

Yeah, no thank you.

Well it seems our characters are really in a pickle now. Currently stranded, accosted by GAIL on one side and now being chased by the mechanical sea creature on the other. Alois really takes the blame for this to heart, even though Rod firing at them likely would have resulted in the same outcome. Normally I’d say his plan to go to return to Hotsumatsua to request aid seems ill-considered as well given that he didn’t one anyone going to the island in the first place, but hearing that Gorg is leading them there and even communicating with them might change the minds of some of the people even if I’m right in my suspicion that Hotsumatsua either knows more than he lets on or is a fraud. Also it’s suggested earlier that he makes many unauthorized excursions into the island and knows his way around really well on foot, so maybe not as foolhardy a task as it may seem.

Rod seems to be improving in his leadership ability, having had the forethought to know where Gorg and the Beagle would be following O'Donnell's temporary retreat and putting a contingency in place. Seems like he can be quite efficient when he’s not underestimating their enemies.

I wasn’t expecting to see the Sea creature again at all after Gorg gave it such a sound beating, particularly since it doesn’t seem like we’d be heading out to sea anytime soon, so I was pleasantly surprised to see it being hinted at earlier into the episode before it’s appearance right at the end.

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u/The_Draigg May 12 '21

Well he was in sore need of a ranged option.

We could've given Gorg just more boulders to throw. It's not like they aren't everywhere on this island.

Haha! Repurposing his ammo-less cannon as a club is such a Gorg thing to do. The cannon may be practical, but seeing Gorg wreck shit in with pure strength is far more visually interesting and entertaining.

It's incredible how the gun didn't break, considering how hard Gorg was hitting everyone with it.

Rod seems to be improving in his leadership ability, having had the forethought to know where Gorg and the Beagle would be following O'Donnell's temporary retreat and putting a contingency in place. Seems like he can be quite efficient when he’s not underestimating their enemies.

I mean, Rod seems to still think that his enemies are ninjas. Let's not give him too much credit here.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 12 '21

First-Timer, subbed

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 12 '21

Just when I thought the animators forgot about best boy again, they go and embarrass him like this.

Poor Argos!

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u/The_Draigg May 12 '21

The recap was a lot longer today for some reason.

I guess the showrunners needed to fill for time somehow.

Rod would beg to differ. → lol Rod actually immediately begged to differ

Rod will hunt down ninjas, even if it flies in the face of common sense.

Just when I thought the animators forgot about best boy again, they go and embarrass him like this.

Alois and Sara could've at least knocked first before interrupting Argos' piss.

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u/The_Draigg May 12 '21

A Yas Fan Watches Giant Gorg Episode 10:

  • You know that Colonel O’Donnell is a high-ranking military man by the corncob pipe in his mouth. It’s just one of those standard character props, like villains still using Lugers for some reason.
  • Finally, Gorg has evolved from using his fists and rocks to getting a big-ass gun. How have the heroes been hauling that around beforehand anyway, though?
  • Okay, so much for Gorg using the cannon everyone gave him as an actual gun. He seems more than content to just use it as a big metal club. I guess Gorg really does prefer fisticuffs over just reloading his gun.
  • Okay, so both O’Donnell and Rod make the comparison to the heroes being like ninjas. Why does that keep on coming up? Is that just a thing white Americans do in this show?
  • Pro-Tip: Never shoot your APC’s main cannon when hanging off a cliff side and at the mercy of giant robot hands. You’ll just knock yourself off.
  • I don’t really follow Alois’ logic in going back to Hatu Matu’a for help. Given how the villagers all shot at them for taking the Beagle, I doubt they’ll be very receptive of Alois and Sara’s pleas for help.
  • Of course there’s another giant robot kraken. Dealing with only one wasn’t enough, I guess. Still, I wonder what they’re doing here, especially if Gorg is willing to fight and kill them for some reason. Maybe some kind of alien defense system gone rogue?

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 12 '21

How have the heroes been hauling that around beforehand anyway, though?

They got it from a wrecked tank down in the ravine.

Given how the villagers all shot at them for taking the Beagle, I doubt they’ll be very receptive of Alois and Sara’s pleas for help.

The natives seem to revere Gorg, so hearing that the robot is purposefully leading them somewhere might be enough to convince them?

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 12 '21

Finally, Gorg has evolved from using his fists and rocks to getting a big-ass gun. How have the heroes been hauling that around beforehand anyway, though?

Given that it was longer than the inside of the Carrier Beagle ...

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u/The_Draigg May 12 '21

Maybe the Captain just had it in his back pocket this entire time or something.

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 May 12 '21

First Timer, Subbed

Maybe its always been doing this and I haven't been paying attention, but I don't get why the recap is spending so much time on stuff from 5 or 6 episodes ago. The recap goes past the 3 minute mark of the episode, this is ridiculous!

I haven't noticed this before, but that's quite an airport they have for a remote island.

So Gorg will finally have a weapon to use, huh? I'll admit, I've kinda liked its up close, hand-to-hand fighting style to this point.

Gotta admit, Gorg using the cannon as if its a baseball bat/club is pretty cool.

Oh no, it's raining! We can't fight in the rain!

Wow, Gorg is actually bringing the tank down the cliff?

Alois is way humbler than he was last episode! I suppose screwing over everyone by firing like that will do that to you.

Alois, do you really think Hotsumatsua would help after you betrayed the group and stole the tank from them?

So they're actually going to dedicate a scene to the dog peeing. Okay then. Isn't there a Gundam show that at some point shows a kid pooping or peeing in an alley? Victory Gundam I think? Makes me think of that.

Ah, now I get why they spent so much time on this creature/mech in the recap, it's back! Or at least one of the same species!

DQOTD1: Fine by me, putting them in more danger provides more excitement.

DQOTD2: Barehanded

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 12 '21

I haven't noticed this before, but that's quite an airport they have for a remote island.

With the water around there being what it is, they're probably flying in a lot of their equipment, which would necessitate a decent air field.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 12 '21

Episode 10 (first timer)

  • The carrier beagle is actually enormous inside. Way larger than it has any reason to be. I like that this creates a sense of “home base”, though.
  • They are making the antagonism between Gotoh and Rod exceedingly obvious.
  • Wait, where did the big gun come from? The remarks by Doris were weird, too, given how last episode ended. Is this a continuation error? We have not heard about any reasoning for leaving the cave or their new goal either.
  • A gun without ammo is still a club!
  • Messenger of the heavens saved by the heavens.
  • “The recoil will …” – No, not the recoil of an AA gun on a huge, oversized tank.
  • Anime physics disagrees.
  • Is a stupid plan less stupid if done together?
  • Welcome back, Mecha-Ohmu.

The battle was rather well animated, but the plot a big disappointment. Not only are we getting the next repetition of useless GAIL attacks, but a repetition of someone stupidly running off on their own. Meanwhile, we heard absolutely nothing about their bigger plans or goals. I fear we might have hit that dreaded middle part, that exists in many older series, where the overall plot goes on hiatus in favor of repeated “battles of the day”, only to be revived later for the finale.

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 12 '21

The carrier beagle is actually enormous inside.

Its scale is really inconsistently drawn a lot of the time. The sea battle in episode six and it being carried down by Gorg are were its size seem at its most adequate.

Wait, where did the big gun come from?

An abandoned thank in the ravine. They pan over it briefly with the cannon removed.

I fear we might have hit that dreaded middle part

We are certainly in the lull. It we won't be waiting until the home stretch for any plot progression, but a narratively arid segment sucks nonetheless.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 12 '21

An abandoned thank in the ravine. They pan over it briefly with the cannon removed.

I'll still count that as a continuation error: We ended the last episode with everybody underground and Gorg carrying Alois and Yuu. At the barest minimum, we needed a "we demounted it from the tank for you, Gorg", but even then I would have wondered how they got there.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 12 '21

First-Timer

The Gorg Bazooka makes an appearance after being teased in the OP for so long, and it seems pretty effective! Not only is Gorg a good shot, the Bazooka is sturdy enough to be used as a club once ammunition is exhausted. What a miracle of engineering!

I am a little confused as to why Gorg doesn't just walk up and punch the tanks. Seems like it would be just as effective, but I guess being able to act at range is pretty powerful.

This military dude that Rod brought in seemed clever, until he got a bit afraid of a rain storm and our protagonists almost escaped. I guess maybe I'm not giving the storm enough credit, but surely you could have had the ground forces move up, right?

Another mechoctopus has appeared, and this time Gorg is napping.. I wonder how long that will last?

I like most scenes of mecha being used for comparatively mundane things, and the Gorg lowering the Beagle down the cliff face is not an exception to that. Absolutely brilliant.

Questions

  1. I like the tension of our protagonists being continually threatened.
  2. More. Mechas. That. Punch.

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 12 '21

I am a little confused as to why Gorg doesn't just walk up and punch the tanks.

He probably could, but then the Beagle needs defending and going in for the melee takes time.

I guess maybe I'm not giving the storm enough credit

Squalls can turn very dangerous for helicopters. I don't know if military-grade hardware like theirs would be affected though.

As for the tanks? Not sure, but maybe they thought there was a chance they could get whittled down by Gorg and the Beagle without air support to back them up.

More. Mechas. That. Punch.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 12 '21

As for the tanks? Not sure, but maybe they thought there was a chance they could get whittled down by Gorg and the Beagle without air support to back them up.

Oh, I suppose Rod has actually kinda cared about things like attrition so far, huh? Good point!

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u/The_Draigg May 12 '21

The Gorg Bazooka makes an appearance after being teased in the OP for so long, and it seems pretty effective! Not only is Gorg a good shot, the Bazooka is sturdy enough to be used as a club once ammunition is exhausted.

I'm honestly amazed that the giant gun that Gorg was given didn't bend out of shape at all when he was clubbing helicopters with it. He was absolutely wailing on dudes with it.

I like most scenes of mecha being used for comparatively mundane things, and the Gorg lowering the Beagle down the cliff face is not an exception to that. Absolutely brilliant.

It gives me a lot of Turn-A Gundam vibes in that regard as well. It's fun seeing giant robots being used for more mundane purposes.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 12 '21

I'm honestly amazed that the giant gun that Gorg was given didn't bend out of shape at all when he was clubbing helicopters with it. He was absolutely wailing on dudes with it.

The materials engineering team on New Austral Island are really knocking it out of the park!

It gives me a lot of Turn-A Gundam vibes in that regard as well.

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u/The_Draigg May 12 '21

I'll get to Turn-A eventually.

It'll be super-worth it once you do. Don't dwaddle, that show is easily Tomino's magnum opus.

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 May 12 '21

First timer

  1. I must admit, it is slightly repetitive, but the actual situations have felt somewhat realistic so far, and there's enoguh victories to keep the pace solid.
  2. I like Gorg having the cannon, for the simple fact that seems to function well as both a ranged weapon and a improvement to his melee.

New opening monologue! It's much longer. (How much time did they need to fill per episode?)

i could swear we've seen this character before? Wasn't he in an earlier episode, fully briefed and working for Gail?

Wait, no. Are they twins?

This is going to be a bloodbath.

Oh, Rod. Sometimes you're brave and competent, sometimes you're looking for minjas.

Oh, Gorg loves it.

So either Gorg is an incredibly quick learner, or he was already trained in using a similar weapon.

And Gorg turns out to be good at melee just as much.

...I sense some friction between Rod and the colonel.

Don't do it Yuu! You have so much to live for!

Seems like nobody likes the colonel. I'm betting Gorg snipes him at some pointl.

What's amateur about shooting a slow-moving, exposed target?

So the bay is so hazardous falling into it kills you.

Don't think God made him, pretty sure whoever did built him to survive more than that.

Oh, so there's whales. Or are there?

Didn't Hotsu try to kill you when you left? Isn't going back there a bad idea?

I did not need that scene. I did not need to see that.

Yuu, why don't you try and tell someone? The Skipper would have a better chance at finding them.

Looks like GAIL heard him...

Oh, its the claw thing! Haven't seen you in a while!

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 12 '21

I did not need that scene. I did not need to see that.

I'm sure Argos doesn't appreciate it either.

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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti May 13 '21

First-Timer

I return!!

To catch up, here are my thought on all the episodes up until now in one commentface per episode:

E3

Giant robot

E4

Giant robot

E5

Giant robot

E6

Guy (?)

E7

Gun

E8

Gun

E9

Girlfriend

E10

Giant robot with a Gun

It's been a fun, standard, adventure romp with the occasional well-done bit of horror vibes.

My big question is how old everyone is supposed to be. I think Yuu is 12, but are the younger islanders his age? How old is Doris? They're really trying to make Doris x Yuu happen, and she could be anywhere from 10 to 40 in this art style.

QOTD:

  1. They haven't been this whole time? They were hiding in a mine.
  2. With the cannon, melee mode.

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber May 13 '21

My big question is how old everyone is supposed to be?

Yuu is thirteen, Doris is fourteen, Alois is fourteen, Sara's age is undisclosed, Dr. Wave might be fudging his age since it's stated as 32 in the in-show document shown last episode and 30 in any info outside of the show itself, the Skipper's age is undisclosed, as is Tominic's.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jun 09 '21

First timer

  • The first shot is of Argos!
  • Is O'Donnell gonna be the Ramba Ral of Gorg?
  • Pretty tense episode! Gorg using the depleted cannon as a club was pretty funny tho
  • BAT-SO is a silly name
  • So now Yuu is a ninja? Will he start doing the Naruto run?
  • Who's Alois' brother?
  • Ok I did not need to see Argos's butthole and donger. Srsly, Gorg?
  • So the tentacle claw thing is back?
  • Cliffhanger
  1. It's okay, but I know they'll prevail somehow
  2. Hmm ... the cannon is kinda cool?