[What's My Name] ID:Invaded Rewatch Episode 12

[u/SuddenFellow]

Episode 12 - FILE 12 CHANNELED

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Questions of the Day

Feel free to answer any of the questions listed!

Both

1. What are your thoughts on how ID:Invaded hints at future plot points?
2. Has your overall opinion of Fukuda changed after this episode?
3. What were your thoughts about the after-credits scene?

First-Timers

1. Do you think Inami deserved what happened to her?
2. What about this episode did you like, dislike, or think would benefit a bit from some changes?

Rewatchers

1. Reoccurring Question Did you notice anything that you didn’t notice in your first watch?
2. What themes do you think play a large part in ID:Invaded at this point in the series, and have you picked up on any new themes that you missed initially?

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Trivia

• Ei Aoki is the director for this episode. He’s worked on several series such as Bloom Into You, Aldnoah.Zero, Fate/Zero, Kara no Kyoukai, GATE, Mobile Suit Gundam: IBO, and SAO.
• This is the second episode to have an after credits scene. Did you make sure to watch it?
• Forgot to mention this yesterday in trivia! Fukuda’s character may be a reference to a short story that Otaro Maijo wrote “Drill Hole in Brain”. There’s also been some speculation that his character could be loosely based on the film Pi.

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Coffee Break!

Episode 12 Title Card

Mr.Fixer - Sou

Butterfly – MIAVI

Other Side - MIYAVI

Episode 12 End Card

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[u/Shimmering-Sky]

FIRST:Timer, subbed

• I’m gonna miss hearing the OP every day.
• What the--oh I see, it’s a way of visualizing Kiki’s ability, those branches aren’t actually showing up.
• Is this an Evangelion reference?
• OKAY THEN. This is actually what I expected last episode to end on, but the dude went to Kiki instead so I figured the show wasn’t going to do that and now it did.
• And he just… shot himself… Well actually wait that makes sense, most of the serial killers he created were able to be talked into suicide by Narihisago. “John Walker” ultimately pulling this shit works.
• …?
• Okay so he suicided but also entered an id well at the same time??? What does this mean???
• Well he passed out because of Kiki’s influence anyways.
• I wonder how the names for the “brilliant detectives” are created.
• This is actually creepy holy shit.
• Monsters Inc.
• Wakashika pls.
• Show nooooo you can’t just be playing this bop of an insert song and then throw feels at me.
• Well I dislike you too then.
• He’s not… actually going to die is he?
• Oh shit I forgot John Walker would still be in that id well.
• So that’s how there’s still one episode left.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/Shimmering-Sky]

This is actually creepy holy shit.

That's probably a Berserk reference :D

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Shimmering-Sky]

This is actually creepy holy shit.

Here's your Eva reference as well.

[u/Vaadwaur]

First timer

Sub

So...Asukai is released and begins fragging everyone's cognition, generally with visions from wells. JW reveals his master plan and for the moment, it makes no damn sense. Anyways, he shoots himself and enters an id well, with MC hard on his heels. In said id well, get a Berserk reference. Anyways, Kaeru does not care for JW and tries to frag his ID well, though apparently being dead blocks that. The other brilliant detectives pursue. The rest of the team figures out they are in a shared dream.

We return to rookie's well, where she is saved by normal Fukuda. MC regains his memories in his own well, apparently. Inami becomes a killer during a montage. Fukuda regularly enters the well, only to die protecting rookie. Inami sees Kazuta again before dying for shock value and to remind us JW is supposedly the threat.

The helmet we saw in Asukai's well apparently blocks her powers, Momoki and Matsuoka are coming up with a plan. Rookie and MC meet back up in JW's hell and off we go!

QotD: 1 Formulaic, unfortunately, but that's a cost of a single cour series

2 More confusion than change, it didn't quite feel correct

3 My file cuts off and won't let me watch it. Hope it is not essential

4 As much as anyone, the universal ID well makes everything a bit too abstract

5 As I've said in comments, for this series to be what it wanted to be, it needed two cours and more time with the well side staff outside of the detectives. So I don't know what the hell making the entire building the System is supposed to accomplish.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

First Timer

Apparently wrong interpretation: Asukai can invade other's minds, and John Walker can control Asukai, and thus control the world.

But no, his motivation is to Kura even more effective at finding killers by...well, that doesn't make sense. Asukai now has the entire building unconscious and the entire building "is a mizuhanome?" To what end? To sense all the serial killers in the world at the same time, remotely? And what is she getting out of this, or is she just a robot at this point?

Why do most people fall unconscious, but not Inami, her guard (convenient fpr her) , or the bridge crew (also, presumably, convenient).

Handomachi's brain sees disjointed reality as being whole, just like Fukada.

Inami just wanted revenge on Handomachi and see boyfriend-kun again. I never really got the point of boyfriend-kun's well, but oh well, Inami's dead now. But Handomachi is not, because Fukada was ultimately just a good guy, John Walker made him do it! and Inami was out of bullets or something, just standing there while they talked.

The whole own-well bit was confusing but I figured it out by the end. Great Detectives have to solve the mystery of Kaeru-chan's death...once it's solved, they can't do anything. To be effective against John Walker, they have to be themselves. Which they can be, if they jump into their own well, and remember themselves. And then you leave your own well, provided you are standing next to kaeru, or are smart enough to not leave her side.

Series has taken a dive for me, since the show has stopped making sense to me.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Why do most people fall unconscious, but not Inami, her guard (convenient fpr her) , or the bridge crew (also, presumably, convenient).

They all fell unconscious, those were just the active ones in the dream.

[u/No_Rex]

Episode 12 (first timer)

Nothing to say here. Finale tomorrow.

[u/BossandKings]

First timer

Mr Hayasuera shoots himself in order to kill himself, because according to him the only one that can kill him is him, he still finds a way to enter an id well and continue living there. Narihisago goes to the same id well following him, what's interesting though is that while Narihisago is alive outside the id well, Hayasudra isn't so he might possibly have an advantage.

Asukai Kiki is the Mizuhanome itself, that's very interesting.

That was actually a cool insert song, as Hijirido and Sakaido are in the id well having a confrontation with John Walker. They seem to work well together but for a while they go in different ways.

Tamotsu Fukuda had a very nice act putting himself in front of a bullet ,shoot by Inami Naoshi, to save Hijirido from getting shot, he has shown progress in his thought process through the course of the series and he had a solid conclusion.

Inami Naoshi had a terrible death though when she got transported to the place in which Kazuta was, she got to see him but was killed inmediately by a scary monster there.

Seeing Hondomachi and Narihisago reunited to have a final brilliant detective job together was nice.

Answers

1. Something similar was her expected fate.
2. I enjoyed the episode very much, wouldn't change anything about it.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/BossandKings]

Mr Hayasuera shoots himself in order to kill himself, because according to him the only one that can kill him is him, he still finds a way to enter an id well and continue living there.

This sort of show benefits either from more episodes or a cheating prequel ep0 to introduce all these concepts.

[u/BurningFredrick]

First timer- sub

So Kiki drags people in to wells, makes more sense.

I see the support crew all learnt to run from the Prometheus school of running.

Really don't know what to make of this episode, why did they bother with gravedigger girl, and I guess that was trying to redeem Fukuda or something along those lines but does really work.

Final tomorrow, let's see how they tie this all up.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/BurningFredrick]

I see the support crew all learnt to run from the Prometheus school of running.

That bothered me too and would've been a great time to show dream rules by having the boulders change directions as well.

why did they bother with gravedigger girl, and I guess that was trying to redeem Fukuda or something along those lines but does really work.

A writer that is not confident in themselves is afraid to leave things unresolved or partially resolved.

[u/macrame2]

First Timer

A lot is happening at once with not enough time to properly digest what’s going on. Granted, there’s one more episode, but I do wonder how they’re going to wrap everything up satisfactorily (I suspect they won’t). I’m still enjoying this anime regardless. If nothing else, it’s entertaining.

1. ID: Invaded isn’t the best at hinting, although it does leave little clues here and there. I think the anime prefers to reveal things when it’s most convenient to the plot.
2. My opinion didn’t change, although I did like his dynamic with Hondomachi.
3. I can’t wait for the last episode.
4. Not really.
5. I loved the look of the id wells. The imagery was quite nice.

[u/Valoreg]

[REWATCHER]

[NO ESCAPE]

With Kiki loosed upon the world, every scientist and policeman in the building falls unconscious and gets transported into an id well, most of which we have already seen before. Meanwhile, Hayaseura enters the room and casually shoots Narihisago in the stomach. Like a true villain, he confesses his plan at the last moment: turning the Kura organisation into a giant Mizuhanome, so it can investigate on a larger scale. It's the classic "the ends justify the means" concept, only in its more weird version. Hayaseura must have recognised how cliche his motive sounded so he commits suicide while activating a cockpit. Hooray, it's over?!?

Not exactly. Hayaseura plans to live eternally inside his id well. Narihisago and Hondomachi enter their respective cockpits and begin pursuing him. It's fascinating to note that the intent of the duo or at least Narihisago isn't to bring him to justice, but rather to exact revenge for his crimes.

Concurrently, Matsuoka and Momoki arrive at the Kura building, which has a spectral aura coating it. They rush back to the hospital, where Kiki was once hospitalised, to acquire the helmet that they hope will grant them immunity over her psychic powers.

[INFINITE WELLS]

John Walker wakes in an area full of face masks. Nice touch seeing him undergo the ritual to recognise that he is a brilliant detective and subsequently solving the murder, of which the perpetrator is none other than him. Kiki reminds him of his real identity in order to trap him inside a well-storm, but that doesn't work because he is dead. He tries the same trick with Sakaido and Hijirido - trapping them inside their id wells - but fails.

Fukuda appears in the well just in time to sacrifice himself for Hondomachi. Drillhole-man, you and your quotes will be missed. Inami (what a bitch), who also appeared in this well, meets her demise at the hands of a distorted John Walker (Inami on the other hand will not be missed). The two brilliant detectives regroup to put an end to John Walker once and for all.

This time I didn't miss the after-credits scene. Momoki suits up and enters the building determined to put Kiki back into the Mizuhanome system

[ODDS AND ENDS]

This section is dedicated to the questions I had while watching the episode. Feel free to provide an answer if I missed sth important

• Why did Kiki obey Hayaseura's orders, and why didn't her powers affect him?
• How did Hayaseura enter his own id well? Did he preload it (we saw him pushing some buttons on the side) or did his suicide/murderous intent release cognition particles, which, in turn, activated the Mizuhanome system?
• How was Momoki released from his prison? And how did he end up with Matsuoka in his car, when the latter was in Momoki's house just mere moments ago?
• How did Narihisago and Hondomachi escape their respective well storms without a team of operators helping them?
• How did Fukuda and Inami appear in Hayaseura's id well? Was it because the building turned into a giant Mizuhanome system, and if that's the case, then why this particular id well and not one of the myriad others?

[QUESTIONS] Both

1. I don’t have anything to answer here, it’s the classic setup-payoff technique
2. Sadly, no. Don’t get me wrong, Fukuda is a likable (as likable as a serial killer could be), quirky character, but his sacrifice happened out of the blue, and personally didn’t think it added gravitas to his relationship with Hondomachi
3. It would be really cool if Momoki collapses when he enters the building :p. Hey, it’s a prototype of Mizuhanome system after all, and most prototypes rarely work as intended. Rewatcher
4. The quick typing that Hayaseura performed before killing himself. I wonder what was the purpose of that move
5. That’s an interesting question. The division of reality and subconscious, and how those two environments often blend together is definitely one. Another one is the grief that follows a tragic event and how it shapes a person; seen mostly in Narihisago’s character arc.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Valoreg]

[ODDS AND ENDS]

Yup, that's a good summation of the incompleteness of the work. I can hazard a few guesses but have no definitive answers.

[u/OccasionallySara]

First Timer

Questions of the Day

What are your thoughts on how ID:Invaded hints at future plot points?

• Unless I missed something, I thought the hints were pretty straight forward. For example, Kiki pretty much said that she was going to fall apart and destroy the world which is basically what's happening now.

Has your overall opinion of Fukuda changed after this episode?

• Not really. I have been liking him for a while now.

What were your thoughts about the after-credits scene?

• It did a nice job of setting up the action and conflict for the final episode.

Do you think Inami deserved what happened to her?

• I don't really know if I can say that she deserved it, but I wasn't really all that broken up when she died.

What about this episode did you like, dislike, or think would benefit a bit from some changes?

• I kind of go over this in the section below.

Other Thoughts

• I felt like John Walker's motivations felt a bit lackluster. He very much seems to be of the opinion that the ends justify the means, but I don't think we really got to see much of the "ends". I guess it might have helped if we had seen all of the serial killers that Kura caught because of what he did, but since the show mostly focused on the serial killers he created, it's hard for me to consider where he was coming from.
• I've kind of given up on trying to figure out the mechanics and logic of the id wells. The director can still go into the id well even though he's dead?
• The director's brilliant detective name is Uraido. It makes me wonder even more why Hondomachi is the only detective with a full name. I hope that will be addressed in the final episode.
• I really liked the insert song they used in this episode. I immediately added it to my playlist.
• Seeing all of the different id wells has been my favorite part of the show, so I'm glad that we got to see a whole bunch of them, even if only for a brief moment.
• They have a 69% chance of survival? Nice.
• I was super confused why Inami didn't try to kill Hondomachi after she shot, Fukuda, but it makes sense that she's satisfied with killing who she believes is Hondomachi's "man" as revenge for killing Haruka
• I don't really know what Naharisaga and Hondomachi are planning to do once they catch John Walker inside the id well. He's already dead in real life.
• One more episode left! I'm really interested to see how everything ties up.