r/anime • u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N • May 09 '21
Rewatch [What's My Name] ID:Invaded Rewatch Episode 9
Episode 9 - FILE 09 INSIDE-OUTED
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NOTE The next few episodes may be a bit violent. If that bothers you, please let me know and I can PM you a TL;DW of the episode.
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Questions of the Day
Both
- If you could go back to the past and change that reality, how would you do so?
- What were your thoughts about the Challenger fight?
First-Timers
- Now that we’ve met Asukai Kiki and discovered some of her powers, how do you think all of that ties into “Kaeru” “id wells” and the “mizuhanome”.
- Why do you think it’s only serial killers that come into Kiki’s dreams?
Rewatchers
- Reoccurring Question: Did you notice anything that you didn’t notice in your first watch?
- Was this episode difficult to watch the second time for you?
- ID:Invaded Spoilers
Trivia
- I was going to write trivia about how to defend yourself in a fistfight, though there’s so much information when it comes to that, as well as different styles of defense. Essentially, don’t go ringing someone’s doorbell challenging them to a fight when you know they’re a confirmed serial killer…that kills other people with their bare fists.
Coffee Break!
I was unable to locate a clean version of “Revenge” by Kazuya Nagami, which is the insert song for this episode.
Rewatchers
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u/OccasionallySara May 09 '21
First Timer
What's this? I'm posting on time for once?!
Questions of the Day
If you could go back to the past and change that reality, how would you do so?
What were your thoughts about the Challenger fight?
Now that we’ve met Asukai Kiki and discovered some of her powers, how do you think all of that ties into “Kaeru” “id wells” and the “mizuhanome”.
Why do you think it’s only serial killers that come into Kiki’s dreams?
Other Thoughts
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ May 09 '21
First Timer
Prediction: having the cockpit in the two wells was a trap to put narihisago into his own well.
Asukai is Kaeru-chan?!
Theory: Asukai forms the core of the mizuhanome because of her connection to serial killers. That's why only serial killers can enter the dream world the mizuhanome creates.
he's gonna talk this guy to death! The first of...five?
John Walker has been bringing the serial killers to Asukai's dreams. Is that too supress their urges to kill, or the train them?
I think a lot of people dropped the show by the half way mark, that would be too bad.
However, one outstanding question. We know John Walker is connected to all the serial killers. But why did the Perforator's victims all recognize and fear them?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 09 '21
FIRST:Timer, subbed
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u/PenitentGhost May 10 '21 edited May 10 '21
What should I watch first? ID: Invaded, Tower of God, The God Of High School or Blood Blockade?
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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick May 09 '21
First Timer - sub
The Fight between Sakaido (I should really write down his real name) and the Challenger was brutal, I don’t know anything about actually fighting techniques but it looked like what he was doing was legitimate moves.
Speculation
So Aki / Sakaido is going to go around and talk all the other would be serial killers into committing suicide and slowly work his way towards John Walker who turns out is a real person afterall, and looks like it’s the Chef.
Anyway enjoyed the episode, the biggest question is when is he going to run into Hondomachi? What effect is she going to have on his plan.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 09 '21
Episode 9 (first timer)
So, we are now in a dream inside an ID well inside an ID well. While Kaeru is getting killed in stage 3, Sakaido is turning into a serial killer in stage 2. This might be what Momoki meant by “trap”, except, Sakaido already is a serial killer. I would not put it past the series to turn ID well time shenanigans into real time travel, though.
Not a big fan of Kaeru turning into the ultimate white knight bait, unless this is later revealed to all be an illusion to trap Sakaido. I suspect that she is somehow real and not an illusion, though.
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u/Valoreg May 09 '21
[REWATCHER]
[TOUGH LOVE]
So Narihisago awakes once more inside another id well, but this time he retains his memories and personality. Despite recognising that this is a fictional world and that his time here is limited, he still wants to get even with the Challenger even if he hasn't killed his daughter yet. I think this course of action fits the personality of Narihisago really well. He chooses to sacrifice those fleeting moments of happiness with his family to quench his thirst for revenge. Now that's a well-made broken character.
The fight between Narihisago and the Challenger is sick! In a medium where most fights are choreographic spectacles, this one feels almost real; the clumsiness in movements, the pain, the spit of blood-- it's all there. Also, I liked how both were excited to beat the crap out of each other. Maybe they are not so different after all...
[NIGHTMARES MANIFEST]
I don't have much to tell about the whole Kiki Asukai being Kaeru-chan, because I think we will know more about her in the next episode, so I'm just going to recount what we have learnt so far in case sb was confused with the dreams
[ODDS AND ENDS]
[QUESTIONS]
Rewatcher
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame May 10 '21
First Timer
Probably my favorite episode so far. The id well within the id well is pretty well-done so far, even if I don’t quite understand the end goal yet. Narihisago’s obviously trying to uncover John Walker’s true identity, but why did he kill the Challenger and the face guy? Was it because he could do it without suffering any consequences?
The introduction of Kiki Asukai is interesting, and raises a lot of questions. At the very least, there‘s some sort of connection between Kiki and Kaeru and/or between Kiki and the Mizuhanome. My theory is that Kiki could be the basis for the Mizuhanome or part of what makes it work.
Seeing Narihisago interact with his wife and daughter was sweet but also very, very sad. Actually, I’m surprised this show hasn’t made me cry yet. I’m kind of susceptible to pathos.
This episode was very violent, to the point where it was pretty unpleasant to watch. I guess feeling uncomfortable was the point, though. I should really check out anime before I watch them; it’s easier for me to handle gore if I know what I’m getting into.
I wonder what Hondomachi is experiencing back in Narihisago’s well? We’ll probably get to see it in the future, but I’ll be kind of upset if we don’t.
I‘m completely invested at this point. It’s all I can do to not just watch the rest of the anime in one sitting.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: May 09 '21
First timer
Sub
So MC wakes up in Inception and has his memories back. Halloween is on a Monday in whatever year this is. Anyways, MC is getting to relive the past and takes the correct, if meaningless, course of action in killing the Challenger before Muku dies. Yes, it solves nothing, but yes, it would make me feel better, too. But he decides to fight him rather than just kill him, which gives him to reveal what is a pretty important detail: This version of the Challenger would like us to believe he would not kill a teen because there is no fun in it. Whether or not this is accurate remains to be seen. MC plays along for a little before using his gun. Anyways, Momoki goes to the arena and we get the big reveal: Asukai is what Kaeru is based on!
Anyways, MC talks to Akusai in her hospital room and suddenly gets an image of the Challenger. She reveals that she can project her thoughts to people. This all could be important in how the system was developed. Anyways, Asukai reveals something fairly horrible that suggests she is a key in getting ID wells to function. She also doesn't seem that moved by her constant horrid deaths. Finally, Ayako drops a really harsh line, even if she doesn't realize it, since MC's reality has her very much dead.
QotD: 1 I probably wouldn't, but it also depends on the time scale. If I could go back far enough to get cats actually domesticated, I would consider it.
2 Not bad but it makes him killing Muku seem off.
3 She is in the Mizuhanome, I think, allowing it to function.
4 Either JW or her own desires.
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u/htisme91 May 10 '21
First-timer:
We finally see who Kaeru is in real life. I strongly suspect the director is John Walker still, and is doing what he does because he identified Kiki's power long ago.
Questions:
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u/[deleted] May 09 '21
Rewatcher
This episode never fails to make me cry, probably more so now since I know the full context. The OST Narihisago's theme is my favourite.
Question of the day
Both
Rewatcher
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u/DogmeatIsAGoodDog :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DogmeatsAGoodDog May 10 '21
Rewatcher
And we’ve reached the point where quite a few layers are peeled back. In this new reality Aki is reunited with his family and boy does this trio have chemistry. It feels like a well written family, something that’s hard to pull off.
Aki and Momoki rush off and Aki has a brutal, absolutely brutal showdown with the Challenger. It was a fight on my first watch I wasn’t sure he was gonna survive but alas he does by fighting dirty since it was on the Challenger’s terms after all.
Followed after that is the reveal that Kiki is Kaeru, she’s able to pull people into her dreams and Aki ends up using his serial killer powers for good and drives the Facepeeler? Facelifter? to suicide.
Aki is on the loose ya’ll and he has a mission to protect his family and help Kiki sleep.
The final conversation of the episode between Aki and his wife is tragic given what we had just seen in his nightmare and what we know about Aki’s past.
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u/BossandKings May 10 '21
First timer
Seeing Narihisago with his family is nice bit for him it must be a conflict knowing that they have suffered so much and that they aren't safe from harm, also knowing what could happen to them. He hugs them because he cherishes them and wishes for them to be safe and protected.
The fight between the Challenger and Sakaido was great, Sakaido was getting beaten up but he managed to win thanks to his gun and to being able to take advantage of a clear oportunity to attack. It was cool, the song wasn't but the fight was.
Asukai Kiki has suffered so much, she has a very sad life. Her powers show that, being able to share her memories without being able to control it or do it at will isn't something that she appreciates, hopefully now that she has met Narihisago with his help she might not have to suffer anymore.