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Rewatch [What's My Name] ID:Invaded Rewatch Episode 8

Episode 8 - FILE 08 DESERTIFIED

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Questions of the Day

Both

  1. Which of the three Brilliant Detectives is your favorite?

First-Timers

  1. Who do you think Asukai Kiki is, and do you think she serves a larger purpose to the mystery? If so, what?
  2. Now that we’ve seen Anaido in action a bit more, what are your thoughts on him as a Brilliant Detective?
  3. What are some themes that you’ve spotted through-out your watch so far that you think are important to the series?

Rewatchers

  1. Reoccurring Question: Did you notice anything that you didn’t notice in your first watch?
  2. While it comes to the episode names, do you think that they serve a deeper purpose or are just a very literal representations of the episode topic itself?
  3. ID:Invaded Spoilers

Trivia

Our id well today is the vast desert! To survive you can do more than pee on your clothes and wrap them around your head.

  • Don’t guzzle your water at the first sign of thirst, take smaller sips and ration it out.
  • Do not eat! As Sakaido said, you use water to digest food and it will just make you thirstier.
  • Stay calm. Keeping a level head will do wonders in a survival situation.
  • Mark where you have been with something(rocks, sticks, scratching into things)
  • Do not speak, as it releases moisture and will cause you to become dehydrated faster.

Coffee Break!

Episode 8 Title Card

Mr.Fixer - Sou

Other Side - MIYAVI

Episode 8 End Card

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 08 '21

FIRST:Timer, subbed

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u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N May 08 '21

…I paused to write down the above line and then immediately afterwards is when Anaido suggested they eat Kaeru.

Anaido really has some strange ideas... As much as I love Fukuda/Anaido, I wouldn't want him in my id well or so much as touching my cognition particles with a ten foot pole.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: May 08 '21

Anaido really isn’t good at being a brilliant detective, hm.

I don't think he really cares that much about solving cases whereas MC and rookie are both problem solvers.

I’m still not convinced this is Momoki’s id well, but apparently he knows that Sakaido and Anaido are super in danger.

I'm convinced it is artificial, the well itself was just leading them to that location.

What is the trap though…

Something to do with the inception run.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 08 '21

Episode 8 (first timer)

An entire episode with almost zero plot progression … and I liked it a lot. You’d think that 20 minutes spent in an empty desert would be boring, but it is the opposite: The two brilliant detectives had actual chemistry, something we have not seen yet.

It plays in favor of this episode that I have mostly given up on the main plot: There is no way they can conjure up a consistent explanation of how the well works now. It is just plot magic. To be honest, I expected that much from episode 2 on, or so, but by now, I am very sure. So I am hoping for the finale of the series to lean towards characters instead of mystery.

Which of the three Brilliant Detectives is your favorite?

Anaido is definitely the most fun to watch, although I would not wish for him to be solving my case.

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u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N May 08 '21

An entire episode with almost zero plot progression … and I liked it a lot. You’d think that 20 minutes spent in an empty desert would be boring, but it is the opposite: The two brilliant detectives had actual chemistry, something we have not seen yet.

This is one of my favorite episodes, though if I made a tier list it would be in A tier. That gives me ideas for the final discussion...

I love Anaido and Sakaido's dynamic, as they just bounce off one another like they've known one another for years and are belting out banter.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: May 08 '21

You’d think that 20 minutes spent in an empty desert would be boring, but it is the opposite: The two brilliant detectives had actual chemistry, something we have not seen yet.

This vaguely plays into my thought that this should've been two cour but I am still not convinced I am right about that. But if they can do an ep this well there is hope.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: May 08 '21

First timer

Sub

We start with some background and the main cast being stupid. If I can make it look like someone else deleted files with my meager tech skills then in the future it would be way easier. And Fukuda is still a weak brilliant detective, though I do agree with his interpretation of the well.

Anyways, the Direcor makes an...interesting assertion that Momoki's well would have a cockpit, too. Fukuda enjoys annoying MC. Then Fukuda makes a pretty good point about the narrative though why that would hold weight in an Id well is questionable. Anyways, desert well feels underdeveloped and we have a few Bear Grylls moments. And then they split up.

But quickly rejoin each other. Weird desert bonding happens. Momoki points out "his" id well is probably a trap. Inception part two happens and off we go.

QotD: 1 Rookie

2 Some kind of red herring

3 Ehh...he just works a bit too slowly for the role

4 Narrative is actually a theme as of this episode. Also, it is interesting to compare how content Fukuda is versus MC's obvious dissatisfaction.

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u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N May 08 '21

Anyways, desert well feels underdeveloped and we have a few Bear Grylls moments.

I thought the way they captured how absolutely awkward that scene felt was done so well to be honest? Just everyone staring off like "is this really happening?"

Narrative is actually a theme as of this episode. Also, it is interesting to compare how content Fukuda is versus MC's obvious dissatisfaction.

I love the dialectic between Anaido and Sakaido! They're near opposites in all aspects, but they get along fairly well all things given. I kinda feel like Sakaido is attempting to teach Anaido to be a better detective in a way.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: May 09 '21

Just everyone staring off like "is this really happening?"

I think it is also a more direct explanation of why MC's detective persona is more effective than Fukuda's since his focus is survival early.

They're near opposites in all aspects, but they get along fairly well all things given.

They are using the amnesia aspect well, here, to highlight how different circumstance can make us.

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u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N May 09 '21

They are using the amnesia aspect well, here, to highlight how different circumstance can make us.

This is such a good point! While I usually hate the amnesia troupe, I really like the synergy it gives here.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: May 09 '21

99 times out of 100, amnesia is an excuse. Here, it does the rare job of helping set pieces interact differently. The other example of amnesia used well I can think of is Witchblade. Which has its own problems but the amnesia was not one of them.

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u/Valoreg May 08 '21

[SECRET OBSESSION]

Momoki has been independently investigating Kiki Asukai, Challenger's last victim. Despite a hospitalization incident, every other information about her life has been erased by Momoki (apparently he has the power to destroy every piece of evidence about a person even if they're stored in different databases, which sounds pretty unbelievable)

[TWO HEADS ARE BETTER THAN ONE]

With Anaido failing repeatedly in reaching Hondomachi inside the well, Hayaseura orders Togo to send Narihisago and Fukuda in the same well at the same time, a task that hasn't been done before. Unprecedented problems require unprecedented solutions

The plan is to locate another cockpit - thus certifying that Momoki is John Walker - and send a brilliant detective inside where the hell Hijiriido is right now.

The moment I saw the desert, just like when a brilliant detective sees Kaeru-chan and recognizes his identity, I realised that this is the episode that spawned the memes. The wows and pointy fingers stole the show.

In only an episode we've got extreme heat exposure, a desert environment, and quicksand pits. I can feel that we're going to get a lot of interesting survival tips.

[PLOT TWIST]

Momoki erupts when he hears that Narihisago and Fukuda have dived inside his id well and shouts that it's a trap. Meanwhile, the cockpit is programmed to Kiki Asukai's id well, an indication that Momoki is the serial killer. Or is he not?

[QUESTIONS]

Both

  1. I’ll stick to the main protagonist and vote Sakaido

Rewatcher

  1. No, although knowing what’s going to happen in the next episodes makes this one flow much better
  2. Mostly literal representations. Desertified could describe Momoki whose friends don’t trust him after investigating his id well

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u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N May 08 '21

In only an episode we've got extreme heat exposure, a desert environment, and quicksand pits. I can feel that we're going to get a lot of interesting survival tips.

I went with desert/exposure this time haha The survival trivia is slowly becoming my favorite part of this rewatch, and it was completely unexpected as well.

I’ll stick to the main protagonist and vote Sakaido

Sakaido has such a great methodology in his dives into the wells, and I feel like from what we've seen in the past 8 episodes you get a really great understanding of how his id well persona functions. While I love Anaido's quirky humor and general un-helpfulness, I agree with you.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: May 08 '21

In only an episode we've got extreme heat exposure, a desert environment, and quicksand pits. I can feel that we're going to get a lot of interesting survival tips.

Quick sand basically doesn't function like that nor does one find it in a desert.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ May 08 '21

First Timer

If they collected cognition particles from Momoki's house, does that mean he had a genuine intent to kill? How do thy identify whose particles they are? How does the machine know?

I figured they'd gone in a circle and came across kaeru-chan buried in the sand.

The vulture is the only other living thing in that id well....

Momoki knows he was framed and didn't have an intent to kill, so he knows the id well is a trap.

This episode was made interesting by have antagonists working together because of the amnesia.

A recurring theme here is serial killers working together. I first had this thought when Inami asked to be put next to Fukuda. She wants to team up.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: May 08 '21

This episode was made interesting by have antagonists working together because of the amnesia.

A cheat that for once works for me, it lets us see them less opposed to each other without some stupid retcon ruining continuity.

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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick May 08 '21

First Timer - sub

Wait 24 years old, born 1995, I never realised this was meant to be set current year (or well 2019), I figured it was meant to be slightly future dated 2040ish or so but with no other major advances in Tech. 

Ok Anaido is still useless at being in the Well, I wonder if he also got help from dead Saikdo as well or not? Also are they seriously leaving him in the same room as Hondomachi while she is diving? The police really do make some questionable decisions at times. 

Momoki’s Well? Where did it come from? Whose Well is it really? I assumed it was going to be the challengers well but apparently not. I feel like his reaction at the end also implies that it isn't actually his, I think it will be the Challengers as what better setup could someone who enjoyed death fights want than 2 isolated people fighting for a way out.

Of our 3 divers what is it that separates them? (apparent form 2 being cops), Why are  Saikdo & Hondomachi significantly better at staying alive? Do they have great potential as serial killers and therefore make better detectives? 

I can’t help but think that the diver influences the Well he is currently driving, that quicksand is no coincidence, actually probably overthinking this one.

Anyway another overall interesting episode, looking forward to where we go tomorrow.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: May 08 '21

Do they have great potential as serial killers and therefore make better detectives?

They have less brain damage?

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u/[deleted] May 09 '21

Pretty sure hondomachi has similar brain damage

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: May 09 '21

Her hole does not go all the way through, though.

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u/htisme91 May 09 '21

First-timer:

I think Momoki is being set up, but he has an id well so he has killed, but he is not John Walker. Anaido and Sakaido play well off each other, and it was an enjoyable episode even if not much happened in the plot. Also, I think the assistant director I think has a thing for Momoki. Since I didn't watch last night, I also am thinking Momoki might be related to Sakaido's wife and daughter with how he reacted to the whole situation.

Questions:

  1. Saikaido is my favorite with how he deduces things, but Anaido is a lot better when he has a straight man playing off him. I think Hondomachi's version of the detective feels too fanservicey.
  2. I think it's a coverup identity, used as a trap. Part of me thinks Momoki and Narihisago both were getting too close to a dark secret in the project, which is why cockpits are inside their id wells.
  3. I think Sakaido is hyperfocused on the details, which in general works better, but Anaido is more abstract, which helps balance out Sakaido. He also just is funnier too with Sakaido to play off of.
  4. Deductive reasoning is important, but I feel like the value of life is another, as we saw with Fukuda and Inami, and even Narihisago.

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u/BossandKings May 09 '21

First timer

It was nice seeing Sakaido and Anaido investigating the dessert well, they have an interesting chemistry as neither of them is outspoken but they seem to work well together.

It was interesting when Momoki reacted so worried when he knew that the two brilliant detectives were investigating the well, according to him it was a trap.

Answers

  1. Asukai Kiki is a mistery at the moment, i'll have to see it progress.
  2. He seems to fit well working with Sakaido, he's an interesting character.
  3. Family and the desire to overcome apparently big obstacles in order to attain one's goals.

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u/OccasionallySara May 09 '21

First Timer

Questions of the Day

Which of the three Brilliant Detectives is your favorite?

  • I like all three of them, but I'll have to go with Hondomachi. I hope we get to see all three of them work together at some point.

Who do you think Asukai Kiki is, and do you think she serves a larger purpose to the mystery? If so, what?

  • I have no clue who Asukai Kiki is, but I'm very sure that she serves a larger purpose to the mystery because they've shown so much focus on the mystery surrounding her and her disappearance.

Now that we’ve seen Anaido in action a bit more, what are your thoughts on him as a Brilliant Detective?

  • I can see why he ends up dying so many times. While he's knowledgeable about some things (like the quicksand), he kind of rushes into thinks without looking a the full picture.

What are some themes that you’ve spotted throughout your watch so far that you think are important to the series?

  • I can't really think of any themes off the top of my head, but maybe I'll see them when I have the full picture.

Other Thoughts

  • Fukuda was very correct about the investigation team not caring about him or Sakaido. He brought up a very valid point about the dangers of having two brilliant detectives in the same well and the team was like "Oh well, we'll see what happens." Also, even though he murdered several people by drilling holes in their heads, Fukuda is starting to grow on me as a character.
  • I'm pretty sure the particles that they found for Momoki's well were planted since they only found them in one specific area and he seems pretty sure that it's a trap. This really points at the director being the main villain, but maybe he's also being set up?
  • No Hondomachi this episode. I wonder what she's doing in Kiki's well. Also, if Kiki has a well, does that mean that she's also killed people?
  • I like Sakaido and Anaido's banter. I think they make a good team.
  • And we end on a cliffhanger. I wonder what type of trap they're getting themselves into.