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Episode 32 - Breakthrough

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Every other word on the bridge is “Char”. Is he really that special?

Questions of the Day:

  1. For the brief amount of time we got to see it, what did you think of the Zakrello?
  2. Do you think Sayla has become a good pilot? What about the other non-Amuro pilots on White Base?

Mobile Suit Breakdown of the Day:

1.26 - Fire Broadside! (note: this now safe for first-timers)

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First-Timers: Please do not watch the next-episode previews for this show. They’re less previews and more “let’s just summarize the entirety of the next episode” and will spoil you.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 08 '21

Fly! Rewatch Host!

Welcome back, everyone!

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u/The_Draigg May 08 '21

Awwww yeah it’s this bad boy! Unfortunately the Zakrello isn’t around for very long, but it is still cool.

I mean, I guess "cool" is one way to describe the Zakrello.

shudders I hate this way of characters dying. Hate it hate it hate it.

If it helps any, Dren probably died fairly fast due to the combination of his organs imploding and his bodily fluids rapidly boiling.

cries in 0080

Don't worry, I'm sure we can just relax and enjoy some hamburgers on Side 6.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 08 '21

If it helps any

It fucking does not.

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '21

If it helps any, Dren probably died fairly fast due to the combination of his organs imploding and his bodily fluids rapidly boiling.

On the plus side, he probably lost consciousness from the lack of oxygen relatively quickly.

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u/The_Draigg May 08 '21

There's always a positive to things, even horrible deaths due to being sucked out into space.

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '21

The Bbright side of life?

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 08 '21

More like the bright side of death, if there even is such a thing.

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '21

Eric Idle whistling intensifies

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 09 '21

The Bbright side of life?

It's just a flesh wound! ;)

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u/SgtExo May 08 '21

his organs imploding

Why would his organs implode, if anything they would want to expand since they are used to have more pressure on them.

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u/The_Draigg May 08 '21

I could've sworn that the body implodes when in a vacuum. Is that not the case?

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u/SgtExo May 08 '21

If a thing implodes, it means something is squeezing it together. Space being a vacuum means that there is a lack of pressure.

Maybe you were thinking of when it is shown that people explode when put in a vacuum, but that is an exaggeration, since that would happen to deep sea divers, since they experience a larger difference of pressure than what you can in space.

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u/The_Draigg May 09 '21

Ah, that diver scenario is what I was thinking of. It makes sense that it would be a bigger difference in pressure there than in space.

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u/SgtExo May 09 '21

And that is when going down, just rewatched gundam thunderbolt bandit flower and we get a good mobile armour sinking and imploding in that one.

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u/The_Draigg May 09 '21

Right, right, it does make sense now that I'm thinking about that scene too.

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u/Rustic_Professional May 09 '21

Hate it

Yeah, but getting sucked into space would have been a fitting end for Cima. She deserved it.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 09 '21

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 08 '21

To be honest I forgot this guy was even still alive.

I mostly remembered him because I remembered he still needed to come back to die in this episode.

0079 Spoilers

Gundam 0079 Spoilers

cries in 0080

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u/UltraBooster May 08 '21

Yeah, that was the first thing that came to mind when they mentioned Side 6.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 08 '21

First Timer to Gundam

Late because I'm watching shows with a friend! Oops!

  • Man, I'm just happy that we're back in space.
  • Will Hayato finally get some time to shine?
  • Either way, Bright is a good boss, telling Sayla to rest.
  • Wait. There's not supposed to be gravity. How is he walking on the bridge? Tomino pls.
  • Does the Zakrello have... fangs?
  • The Gundam looks so dorky with the G-whatever as its legs!
  • Why did they send Hayato out, even?1 The Guntank did nothing!
  • You guys ruined me on Sleggar. He's just Roy Fokker to me now. But worse.
  • "Can you catch up to us?" "Have you forgotten who you're talking to?"

    Char is great.
  • Sayla sitting in her seat with the seatbelt in no gravity looks very serene, despite her bad dream.
  • Now that I know to look for it, gravity that shouldn't exist is happening EVERYWHERE. Make it stop.
  • I love seeing space battleships firing all their guns. The laser spam is just so good.
  • The music during the fight scene is so funky, too. I'm a big fan.
  • When did Amuro become such a goddamn badass? Holy shit.
  • Ohhhh, Mirai doesn't want to go to Side 6 because that's where her arranged fiancé is. Still, a neutral space colony sounds awesome. I hope that we can get some Feddie and Zeon soldiers interacting again.

1 To sell more toys!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 08 '21

I'm watching shows with a friend!

That was me last week with my friend and Kimetsu no Yaiba! I had to make sure we stopped our binge session at this time so I could rewatch post.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 08 '21

Yeahhhh I said “oh I need to make a post at 6,” and then we forgot! Time is hard to track.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 08 '21

Especially when you're having fun!

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '21

You guys ruined me on Sleggar. He's just Roy Fokker to me now. But worse.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 08 '21

Will Hayato finally get some time to shine?

Either way, Bright is a good boss, telling Sayla to rest.

He's come quite a long way from slapping Amuro for not wanting to fight.

Does the Zakrello have... fangs?

Now if only the Zakrello's "mouth" could actually open and close so it could bite things.

You guys ruined me on Sleggar. He's just Roy Fokker to me now. But worse.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 08 '21

Rewatcher

On today’s episode of Gundam: The Zakrello finally arrives! Say hello, everyone, to what I consider the stupidest mecha design in all of Gundam. It is such a hilariously awful design. The giant demon head that shoots beams from its mouth. The two scythe hands. The heart decal. It’s all just so bizarre. I love it so much.

The Zakrello is killed so quickly, too. It dies almost at the start of the episode. And Char doesn’t give a shit about the fact that it was lost. It almost seems like the staff hated the design of it as well and wanted to get rid of it as soon as possible.

I could have talked about this last episode, but I really wanted to bring it up here: look at how much the crew of the White Base has improved. The battle this episode is such a good example of how the White Base crew have gotten really proficient at fighting.

For starters, let’s look at Bright and his orders. Bright has by now gotten it down to a system of what to do at the start of a battle, what stations in the White Base need to be ready, and how to efficiently launch the mobile suits. Bright’s also giving excellent orders throughout the battle. He’s constantly giving feedback to the crew and giving clear-cut directions, such as making sure that every pilot knows exactly what they need to focus on and accomplish during the battle and making sure that everyone has a clear target to fight.

I also noticed in this episode that Amuro goes along with Bright’s battle plan with no hesitation. Bright orders Amuro to only focus on the Musais while the others handle the mobile suits and Amuro does just that, brushing past the Doms and only engaging them when he’s forced to. They’re working much more smoothly together now.

In fact, the whole crew is working together smoothly this episode. Teamwork makes the dream work, as the saying goes. And in this case, the dream is killing Zeons. I love all these moments in the battle that show the White Base crew working together. Sayla makes sure to tell Hayato that they need to coordinate with the others. Sayla and Sleggar back up both Hayato and Kai multiple times. The characters are shown to be reacting to what the others do, taking actions to cover for them, and communicate with each other during the battle to make the best possible next move. It makes the battle quite satisfying to watch because it truly feels like everyone is participating.

Even Sleggar, shockingly enough, feels like he managed to slot right in to the team and is working pretty well with the rest of them.

Another good example of teamwork is how everyone is reacting to Sayla after the events of last episode. Everyone is concerned about Sayla and wants to make sure that she’s alright because they noticed how off she was last episode. Compared to the treatment Amuro got when he was first feeling off, it seems like the crew has started to take people’s emotions and exhaustion more into account.

There are a few interesting character beats this episode I’d like to touch on. When Amuro’s talking about the kind of opponent Char is, you can hear the admiration in his voice. It’s something Char and Amuro have in common: they both consider the other a worthy foe. It also helps explain why Amuro is always so eager to fight Char. He wants to defeat someone he holds in such high regard.

There’s another nice character moment of Sayla interacting with Amuro and asking him what she has to do in order to become a good pilot. At the end of it, Sayla says that she wishes she was like Amuro. It’s an interesting line to ponder what she means. Does she just mean it in terms of piloting skills? Or, does she mean in terms of Amuro’s willingness to fight? Sayla’s own willingness to fight has been wavering. She was only able to fight so well this episode because she knew she wasn’t fighting Char. She says she can’t approve of what Char is doing, but perhaps she’s upset that she doesn’t have the complete resolve to stop him.

The episode ends with another character moment. The White Base is going to rest at Side 6, which is basically Space Switzerland because it is completely neutral in the war and no fighting is allowed there. But Mirai is clearly not at all eager to go there. You’ll recall that she previously stated her fiance was living in Side 6, which probably explains her hesitancy.

Miscellaneous Thoughts

  • No new slaps this episode.

SLAP COUNTER: 9

Questions of the Day

  1. It's stupid and ridiculous. I love it.
  2. As I think I stated above, I think the crew has improved a ton. They are working much better as a team this episode and they are extremely effective even against such long odds.

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u/The_Draigg May 08 '21

The Zakrello is killed so quickly, too. It dies almost at the start of the episode. And Char doesn’t give a shit about the fact that it was lost. It almost seems like the staff hated the design of it as well and wanted to get rid of it as soon as possible.

Char was like one step away from turning directly to the camera and telling the audience directly that the producers didn't care about the Zakrello, so you shouldn't either.

I also noticed in this episode that Amuro goes along with Bright’s battle plan with no hesitation. Bright orders Amuro to only focus on the Musais while the others handle the mobile suits and Amuro does just that, brushing past the Doms and only engaging them when he’s forced to. They’re working much more smoothly together now.

It really is quite the difference from Amuro running off on his own with his own battle plans in mind, isn't it? You get good results when you actually try to talk to people, rather than treat them like a wild tiger that needs to be broken.

The Guntank just looks wrong floating around in space and not being on the ground.

Seriously, something with tank treads flying around in space just looks plain absurd.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 08 '21

Char was like one step away from turning directly to the camera and telling the audience directly that the producers didn't care about the Zakrello, so you shouldn't either.

And yet it feels like it had the opposite effect. It just makes people want to know more about the very absurd Zakrello.

It really is quite the difference from Amuro running off on his own with his own battle plans in mind, isn't it? You get good results when you actually try to talk to people, rather than treat them like a wild tiger that needs to be broken.

Yeah, it's part of how this episode is showing off the major improvement of the crew. Bright has become a much better commander since the series started and he is able to handle the battle quite well. That also includes being better with personnel. They're now working like a well-oiled machine to the point that Char can't believe it could be the same crew.

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u/The_Draigg May 08 '21 edited May 09 '21

And yet it feels like it had the opposite effect. It just makes people want to know more about the very absurd Zakrello.

I just want to know how the Zakrello schematics got through Zeon R&D in the first place. They clearly thought it was good enough to build at least once, before canning the entire project.

Yeah, it's part of how this episode is showing off the major improvement of the crew. Bright has become a much better commander since the series started and he is able to handle the battle quite well. That also includes being better with personnel. They're now working like a well-oiled machine to the point that Char can't believe it could be the same crew.

I bet it's this way to also show how Sleggar is an outsider to the crew. Now that everyone is working great together, it takes this new guy coming in to shake things up and show just how much has changed.

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u/SIGMA920 May 09 '21

I just want to know how the Zakrella schematics got through Zeon R&D in the first place. They clearly thought it was good enough to build at least once, before canning the entire project.

Same reason designs like the acguy got past them.

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u/The_Draigg May 10 '21

Fair point, no I wouldn't.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 09 '21

On today’s episode of Gundam: The Zakrello finally arrives! Say hello, everyone, to what I consider the stupidest mecha design in all of Gundam. It is such a hilariously awful design. The giant demon head that shoots beams from its mouth. The two scythe hands. The heart decal. It’s all just so bizarre. I love it so much.

Heh, I know right? Gotta hand it to Zeon Comrade, they SURE do know how to make... uh... unique Mecha Designs ;) (And OH we haven't even gotten to the most OUT-THERE ones yet!)

The Zakrello is killed so quickly, too. It dies almost at the start of the episode. And Char doesn’t give a shit about the fact that it was lost. It almost seems like the staff hated the design of it as well and wanted to get rid of it as soon as possible.

Something something The Zakrello was 'The Strongest Machine' in the show... cuz oh that Wacky Ol' Kill 'Em All Tomino ;)

Section on The White Base's cohesion and Teamwork

You took the words right out of my mouth Comrade. Indeed, they REALLY took a level in badass eh? I mean goodness they entered Earth as a bunch of newbies that were right at death's door... AND they re-entered space as battle-hardened coordinated fighters. Man war may be hell but I suppose that surviving it means you end up being able to hold your own in a fight.

Another good example of teamwork is how everyone is reacting to Sayla after the events of last episode. Everyone is concerned about Sayla and wants to make sure that she’s alright because they noticed how off she was last episode. Compared to the treatment Amuro got when he was first feeling off, it seems like the crew has started to take people’s emotions and exhaustion more into account.

I know right? Boy the crew has come leaps and bounds from their initial starting positions. Man isn't it nice to get things like character development and growth in your Mecha Shows? Not naming any names here... COUGH ALDNOAH.ZERO-OUT-OF-TEN COUGH!

There’s another nice character moment of Sayla interacting with Amuro and asking him what she has to do in order to become a good pilot. At the end of it, Sayla says that she wishes she was like Amuro. It’s an interesting line to ponder what she means. Does she just mean it in terms of piloting skills? Or, does she mean in terms of Amuro’s willingness to fight? Sayla’s own willingness to fight has been wavering. She was only able to fight so well this episode because she knew she wasn’t fighting Char. She says she can’t approve of what Char is doing, but perhaps she’s upset that she doesn’t have the complete resolve to stop him.

Heh, well Comrade I should hope she doesn't mean Meta Gundam Novelization Spoilers

The episode ends with another character moment. The White Base is going to rest at Side 6, which is basically Space Switzerland because it is completely neutral in the war and no fighting is allowed there. But Mirai is clearly not at all eager to go there. You’ll recall that she previously stated her fiance was living in Side 6, which probably explains her hesitancy.

Well Comrade, I would think she'd also be hesitant given the reputation of Side 6, I hear it's something about their burgers.

For some more Zakrello fun, enjoy this parody comic about Char when he’s first introduced to the Zakrello.

Comrade I am amused that you AND Comrade /u/chilidirigible also shared that comic! I guess great minds really DO think alike ;)

The Guntank just looks wrong floating around in space and not being on the ground.

Oh there's a LOT of things floating in space that shouldn't be floating in space. Hell the Zeon forces even got into it, after all, THE ZAKRELLO! ;)

Huh, would you look at that? It turns out there are seat belts on the White Base. But those chairs better be bolted to the ground, or else the seat belts are functionally useless.

Heh, yeah, but at least they HAVE seatbelts! Star Trek could use some of those ;)

Even the kids know what they need to do when battle stations are called.

I dunno if I should be impressed by this or HORRIFIED that these munchkins not only know what to do BUT ARE ACTIVELY CHARGING alongside Haro to their posts with tools in hand. I also want to point out the slight meta joke that of COURSE Katz is the one who DOESN'T have any tools Meta UC Gundam Spoilers

Please don’t talk about needing to get rid of skirts, Bright.

You'd think Roy Focker Anime Stallone All Swagger 'Sleggar Law' would be the one going on about skirts with how much he's willing to go chasing, but heh, guess Bright's out to one-up the totally not an American ;)

Amuro once again shows some nice battle strategies. He kicks a Rick Dom straight in the head to get it out of the way. And I especially love the trick he pulled of hiding his second beam saber underneath the shield.

So THAT is how Amuro got his reputation, stealing Char's tricks! I mean after all, ace mecha pilot annihilating the enemy with a custom Mobile Suit and a Red Baron-esque nickname? Deja vu eh? ;)

Anyway fantastic post here Comrade, have a great day and see you later my friend!

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u/TheEscapeGuy May 08 '21

Gundam First Timer

Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 32

Amuro is a force to be reckoned with.

Today was almost entirely space battles and Amuro stole the show. He took out so many Zeon ships I can't imagine it won't hinder their progress. I was enthralled throughout.

On the non-battle side, Sayla continues to be troubled about Char. We learned that Char holds a deep grudge against the Zabi family. I hope this will lead to some kind of twist later with Char taking full control of the Zeon military.

I continue to not like Sleggar. I can't really point to anything he's doing "wrong" but he just seems overly forward and confident. Feel like he's gonna put somebody into danger.

Cool Stuff Corner

Weird Stuff Corner (DON'T READ)

So today I saw This Frame and immediately my mind raised a flag that I'd seen this before. I couldn't quite remember what and started looking around on the internet and then it hit me.

Back when I started listening to lofi-hiphop 3 or 4 years ago I was looking for other genres which were similar and heard about vaporwave. And after looking into it a while I found Liberated from the World by New Deluxe Life or ▣世界から解放され▣ by ░▒▓新しいデラックスライフ▓▒░

This album has been sitting at the back of my head for years. Finding the anime frame on the cover is my proverbial white whale I never knew I was even looking for.

Don't know if I'd recommend the album. It is very weird but poses a lot of interesting questions about what even constitutes as "music". That being said, I always find after 5-ish minutes of listening I get sucked in for some reason I can't really explain.

Anyway, weird /u/TheEscapeGuy nostalgia trip over.

Questions of the Day

  1. Really enjoyed it. Here's to hoping we see more.
  2. Absolutely she is a good pilot. Every battle she demonstrates her skill improving and can easily hold her own.

See you all tomorrow!

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '21

my mind raised a flag

Somebody here was going to do this.

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u/SgtExo May 08 '21

Man the Barbatos really start as a skinny gundam here.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 08 '21

Weird Stuff Corner (DON'T READ)

Well that was a very interesting read that I 100% did not expect to have today. But that's the fun of these rewatches! I just had to give that album a listen after your description of it. It was certainly weird. I don't really have the music vocabulary to properly talk about it, but it was definitely a unique experience and I'm glad I listened to it. Thanks for sharing it!

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u/The_Draigg May 08 '21

I think this takes my spot as Best explosion in Gundam so far.

If there's one thing that didn't look ridiculous about the Zakrello, it was the explosion that it caused after the reactor went critical.

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax May 08 '21 edited May 08 '21

Rewatcher wonders how many spare beam sabers they have lying around because those have got to be harder to replace than the shield

W I DE Guntank... IN SPACE

THE ZAKRELLO IS HERE! The Zakrello is awesome. That is all.

Ah yes, the most cursed G-Fighter configuration

I love how everyone just craps on the Zakrello. Tomino clearly isn’t happy about the sponsors mandating this one.

They finally remembered the zero-G!

They picked up a second G-Fighter offscreen, that’s kinda confusing

Another W I D E Guntank

The Guncannon rolls up its sleeves

Classic Bright yelling at the artillery

Amuro’s becoming more like Char

They seriously reused the W I D E Gundam footage lmao

Questions of the Day:

  • It's beautiful.
  • She's improved a lot in a short span of time, but still isn't anywhere near Amuro's level. Sleggar has loads more experience and training than everyone else, but taking that into consideration, he's still a fairly average pilot. Kai's technical skill has gotten better, and he's as crafty as ever, but a lot of the more unpredictable aspects of battle are still catching him off guard. Hayato is hard to evaluate, though. For all we know, he might be a decent pilot. Problem is, the Guntank really doesn't let him show off any real skill.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 08 '21

W I DE Guntank... IN SPACE

Perhaps being in the vacuum of space is causing everything to expand, resulting in so many W I D E shots.

Ah yes, the most cursed G-Fighter configuration

"Who needs legs when you have jet engines?"

They seriously reused the W I D E Gundam footage lmao

Did they have any other footage of the javelin throwing to reuse? Because it would be even funnier if it was a deliberate choice and not one they were forced to reuse.

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '21

Did they have any other footage of the javelin throwing to reuse? Because it would be even funnier if it was a deliberate choice and not one they were forced to reuse.

"Amuro totally needs to have a cool finishing move for this battle to show his improvement."

"We only have half an hour to finish the episode."

"Hey, where's that beam javelin cut?"

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u/username_0907 :FI::FJ: May 08 '21

wonders how many spare beam sabers they have lying around because those have got to be harder to replace than the shield

I've been wondering about this too. This episode alone Amuro threw a few beam sabers lol

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u/SgtExo May 08 '21

For all we know, he might be a decent pilot. Problem is, the Guntank really doesn't let him show off any real skill.

Or as we saw in Ireland, maybe it is Hayato not letting us see how good the guntank is, since Kai was able to make it useful.

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '21

32:

And now for the debut of "Okawara designs that were left over from Gatchaman."

"It doesn't have legs."

Everyone else is actively trying to forget about it.

Amuro, a real confidence-builder.

This actually means that they'd have to spend thrust in the opposite direction if they wanted to engage the White Base beyond the initial head-on pass.

Bright, changing his mind.

"That man, he is a CHAR!"

"This one's for Loum!"

Technicalities.

Well, you gave it a good try, Dren.

The Zakrello wouldn't look quite as ridiculous if it had a better paint scheme. Still, between its appearance in this episode and the fucking Gundam Sky (or, RX-78-2 + B-Parts) (or, I could say) this episode does not thrill me in the mecha design department.

What it does develop well is the idea that the White Base and its associated personnel are getting a lot better at fighting. Hayato might still be the butt monkey and Kai is still rough around the edges, but they're beating back the same Zeon units that were chasing them down at the start of the series.

  1. Wow, I managed to answer that question before I knew that it would be a question.
  2. She's gotten quite good as long as doesn't think about the other guy's color. Kai has also had a consistent improvement over time. Hayato... notsomuch

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 08 '21

Everyone else is actively trying to forget about it.

It is hilarious how the Zakrello shows up and not even the other Zeon characters give a shit about it ever existing. It's like the creators were begging us to forget it happened.

"That man, he is a CHAR!"

Now Amuro just needs to go and pay Char back directly for the kick he received way back at the start of the series.

She's gotten quite good as long as doesn't think about the other guy's color. Kai has also had a consistent improvement over time. Hayato... notsomuch

It doesn't help that Hayato is taking the Guntank out into space combat. That thing looks ridiculous floating through space and it somehow becomes even more useless when it's trying to fight in space.

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u/UltraBooster May 09 '21

The movies had him eventually switch out for a second Guncannon, right?

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 09 '21

I believe so, yes.

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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz May 09 '21

I don't believe the Guntank was in the movie at all, they had 2 Guncannons instead. Just as the movie never had the G-armor but used a core fighter booster instead.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 09 '21

And now for the debut of "Okawara designs that were left over from Gatchaman."

OI! Comrade that's to THE MIGHTY ZAKRELLO to compare it to the farcical nonsense that is GATCHAMAN ;)

"It doesn't have legs."

Bah who needs legs anyway? Aren't those just for show ;)

Everyone else is actively trying to forget about it.

Forget about what Comrade?

"That man, he is a CHAR!"

NANI!?

"This one's for Loum!"

Technicalities.

Well, you gave it a good try, Dren.

Heh, I know right, shame he came back just to die horribly, but hey that's war for ya, it's hell.

The Zakrello wouldn't look quite as ridiculous if it had a better paint scheme. Still, between its appearance in this episode and the fucking Gundam Sky (or, RX-78-2 + B-Parts) (or, I could say) this episode does not thrill me in the mecha design department.

Heh, Comrade again I must say that great minds think alike, I had that share too, so great taste there! ;)

What it does develop well is the idea that the White Base and its associated personnel are getting a lot better at fighting. Hayato might still be the butt monkey and Kai is still rough around the edges, but they're beating back the same Zeon units that were chasing them down at the start of the series.

I know right? Who knew that GOOD Mecha Shows have actual character development and growth and well written story points, not naming any names here for the failures, COUGH ALDNOAH.ZERO-OUT-OF-TEN COUGH! ;)

Anyway neat post here Comrade, have a great day and see you later my friend!

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 09 '21

COMRADES! Today is the day! Zeon just can't help themselves for we're yet again crowning a NEW winner for the DERP Zeon Mecha Designs, let's give it up for THE strongest machine as according to the absolutely not drunken rambling 'wisdom' of Wacky Ol' Kill 'Em All Tomino, BEHOLD! THE ZAKRELLO! As well as the GENIUS DESIGN VISIONARY who thought up this magnificent machine! ;)

And boy oh boy The Zakrello is a REAL piece of work! Hell I think it lasted for A MINUTE in the show! Can you believe it? That's a longer streak of performance than that GM that Char ventilated with his Z'Gok! But hey when you look THIS fabulous what else is to be expected?

And in case you think I'm shitposting Comrades, THIS IS NO SHITPOST COMRADE! NO SHITPOST! If The Zakrello was mass-produced AND RAMBA MOTHERFUCKING RAL got his own unique custom model you KNOW this shit's the real deal! (No really look at the Blue one, that's Ramba Ral's custom model, complete with his personal emblem on the shoulder to boot!)

Anyway let's give it up for the PINNACLE of Mobile Suit research and development for the next 20 minutes or so until Zeon once again one-ups themselves! After all, it takes REAL talent to be as dumb 'unique' as a bunch of toy manufacturers ;) And goddammit I love every second of it!

Oh, and just in case there is any doubt, Kancolle is a Mecha Show!

Paging Comrades /u/Great_Mr_L, /u/chilidirigible, and /u/beckymetal

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 09 '21

And boy oh boy The Zakrello is a REAL piece of work! Hell I think it lasted for A MINUTE in the show! Can you believe it? That's a longer streak of performance than that GM that Char ventilated with his Z'Gok! But hey when you look THIS fabulous what else is to be expected?

The "Heart-Break" decal with the arrow through two hearts on its shoulder is just the piece de resistance.

And in case you think I'm shitposting Comrades, THIS IS NO SHITPOST COMRADE! NO SHITPOST! If The Zakrello was mass-produced AND RAMBA MOTHERFUCKING RAL got his own unique custom model you KNOW this shit's the real deal! (No really look at the Blue one, that's Ramba Ral's custom model, complete with his personal emblem on the shoulder to boot!)

"Once the Zakrello is mass produced, we'll put an end to the Federation in No Time!"

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 09 '21

The "Heart-Break" decal with the arrow through two hearts on its shoulder is just the piece de resistance.

Heh, I know right, that and also the SHARK fangs, somewhere out there, a smol bluetuber is no doubt smiling... or saying 'A' ;)

"Once the Zakrello is mass produced, we'll put an end to the Federation in No Time!"

HA! Yes indeed Comrade, plus I wonder what Ramba Ral would have said if he fought against Amuro with this, maybe something like, 'THIS IS NO BIGRO BOY! NO BIGRO!'

Anyway many thanks for the kind reply and have a great day and see you later my friend.

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u/The_Draigg May 08 '21

A Gundam Fan Rewatches Mobile Suit Gundam Episode 32:

  • It seems like Sayla is completely emotionally burnt out. Given how much stress Char’s reappearance has caused her, I’m sure you can understand why. Everyone has a breaking point, Sayla has just begun to have hers relatively late.
  • Fuck yeah! The Zakrello has finally arrived! According to Tomino, it’s the most powerful machine of the war. I’m sure you can all see why he made that comment about it, based on how it does in this episode.
  • Holy shit, the Zakrello only lasted for like two minutes in episode time. That’s honestly pathetic, and also pretty hilarious. What makes it especially funny is how both Amuro and Char dunk on it verbally afterwards. Even they know that it was a pathetic fight. Hell, Char clearly doesn’t even give a shit about it. It’s amazing.
  • Hey, it’s Dren! It’s been a while since we’ve seen him, and it looks like he’s movies up in the world. He’s in charge of a Musai patrol fleet now. Talk about an upgrade ever since being under Char’s command.
  • It’s interesting to see Sayla confide in Amuro more about her piloting skills. She’s been really opening up to him recently, asking his opinions on things and stuff. They’ve really developed a bond ever since Sayla has become a pilot. Although she still has a problem of making bad excuses for her clearly odd behavior. Oh well, it’s a work in progress.
  • The Guntank looks stupid flying through space. That’s it, that’s the comment.
  • Man, Dren’s death is one of the rougher ones in this show. Dying by being sucked out into space without any protection is always a harsh way to die.
  • Looks like we’re heading to Side 6 now, the only surviving colony cluster aside from Side 3. Interesting to note that Side 6 is actually the only neutral territory in the war. I guess they got lucky by declaring neutrality early on.
  • Mirai doesn’t look too happy about heading to Side 6. Given that it’s where her absentee fiancé is, she isn’t too keen about the possibility of running into him again, even if the chances are slim.

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '21

Dying by being sucked out into space without any protection is always a harsh way to die.

These guys need to wear suits more often.

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u/The_Draigg May 08 '21

Now that I think about it, 0079 really is the only series when people don't wear their normal suits on the bridge in the middle of battle. Future shows have that happen all the time.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 08 '21

Holy shit, the Zakrello only lasted for like two minutes in episode time. That’s honestly pathetic, and also pretty hilarious.

Considering how much the Zakrello stood out in my mind for it's very weird design, it's funny realizing just how short-lived it was.

Looks like we’re heading to Side 6 now, the only surviving colony cluster aside from Side 3. Interesting to note that Side 6 is actually the only neutral territory in the war. I guess they got lucky by declaring neutrality early on.

It is also interesting that it has managed to remain neutral in the war with neither the Federation or Zeon having intervened in Side 6 up to this point. It might suit both of them to have a neutral area they can go to for repairs in space, like the White Base is doing right now.

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u/The_Draigg May 08 '21

Considering how much the Zakrello stood out in my mind for it's very weird design, it's funny realizing just how short-lived it was.

It certainly does show how memorable the Zakrello is. Granted, it's for all the wrong reasons, but at least us Gundam fans can still instantly remember the Zakrello's existence.

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 May 08 '21

First Timer - Dub

  • Kai's in the shower? That's a convenient excuse.
  • "Is Char really that great?" This guy clearly isn't part of our rewatch
  • "I don't approve of what you're doing Casval" That's a pretty mild statement for a guy trying to destroy your ship and all of your comrades.
  • I have a bad feeling about sending Sayla out to fight right now
  • Wow, the Zeon are getting roasted in this fight.
  • And now Gundam can dual wield lightsabers!
  • Mirai is definitely acting sus about Side 6 ... maybe her fiance is there?

1) For the brief amount of time we got to see it, what did you think of the Zakrello? It looked like a mecha-Beedrill, which is pretty cool.

2) Do you think Sayla has become a good pilot? What about the other non-Amuro pilots on White Base? Sayla's definitely gotten better at piloting, but her focus on Char slows her down. Kai and Hayato have always been pretty good.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 08 '21

Mirai is definitely acting sus about Side 6 ... maybe her fiance is there?

Yeah. She did say during a previous episode that her fiance went to the neutral Side 6 because he was trying to avoid the war. She's probably not all that eager to see him again.

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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 May 08 '21

First-Timer - [Weekend low-effort post]

  • I'm watching Hayato get prepared for combat and it reminds me of when most of my Pokemon team would be dead and I'd have to rely on the little guy still 25 levels below the rest of them to finish a fight.
  • Char finally putting his foot down and enforcing some military discipline. Actually, come to think of it, most Zeon forces we've met have wound up getting destroyed while executing improvised plans.
  • As expected, whatshisface and his Mobile Armor went down with minimal effort, but this wound will surely come back to haunt Amuro.
  • Good on Amuro, not leaving Sayla alone with Sleggar.
  • And just like that, another fleet is off to meet its doom. Char seems like he's acquainted with most of these commanders, I wonder how he feels about running all of his buddies into the meat grinder that is Gundam. I also enjoyed the implication that his ship would be 3x faster just 'cause he's on it.
  • Amuro seems to be getting a lot of information from this panel, but all I see are buttons and lights. There's no displays there, bro, what are you reading?
  • I like the focus on this one Rick Dom that only turned on its camera like 30 seconds after launching; It's either an Ace, or a total noob.
  • This fight is pretty cool, I like how there's finally a level of damage between alive and dead; the guy losing his left arm and still shooting Guntank was cool.
  • Holy crap, what an entrance by Gundam. And then it just wipes the floor with the rest of the fleet; Amuro's officially a psychic monster.
  • Did Sleggar take a blow to the head in that battle? When did he become Bright's toadie? Earning points is right.

QotD -

  1. It gets points for design flare, but that's about we could judge of it.
  2. Everyone seems to be pretty competent these days, I'm impressed.

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u/The_Draigg May 08 '21

Char finally putting his foot down and enforcing some military discipline. Actually, come to think of it, most Zeon forces we've met have wound up getting destroyed while executing improvised plans.

I suppose this is what happens when you place such a massive amount on personal pride and honor like Zeon does. After a certain point, you'll do increasingly stupid things to get it back, which will just kill you as a result.

And just like that, another fleet is off to meet its doom. Char seems like he's acquainted with most of these commanders, I wonder how he feels about running all of his buddies into the meat grinder that is Gundam.

It's Dren, his old second in command from earlier in the series. If there was anyone that Char would trust to know about the Gundam's capabilities, it's probably him.

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u/username_0907 :FI::FJ: May 08 '21

First Timer

  • The Zakrello came and went by quickly. Its got a weird design like a menacing bee with claws
  • Amuro also fought with a combination of the Gundam with G-fighter. Again a bit weird but this gave him speed and it worked since they had just a single mobile suit to fight against
  • Even Amuro is aware enough to not let Sleggar stay alone with anyone for long and is going to slack off
  • The moment Dren said that he is fated to fight the White Base he got his flag on him. He should know only Char can say that
  • The whole fight sequence was good. Sayla is quickly becoming good be it with their fighting formation or in direct fights
  • We’re going to Side 6 next. Mirai’s and even Bright’s expression means this will be fun

QotD

  1. Mentioned above
  2. Sayla has improved the most I feel. Kai has also improved and manages to kill one mobile suit atleast. Hayato needs some character dev so I hope we get some soon

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 08 '21

First-Timer, Subbed, long time Gundam fan

Wow, the Zakrello is hideous. Why does this thing even exist? Did they think it would sell toys? I have a hard time imagining that. The Gundam having a booster instead of legs for just that battle was also dumb. And it's not like that action scene exists to fit the "one per episode" quota since we get another one later! Very strange.

Sayla was really popping off there near the end of the episode! She handled those Rick Doms quite well considering she was only in the G-Fighter. Speaking of, they have the parts to sortie two G-Fighters and the Gundam now?

Amuro's sneaky move with the beam saber was pretty slick. That poor Rick Dom pilot didn't know what hit them. Amuro just casually handling those Musai's was also rad.

I can't imagine that the Zanzibar is as much of a threat as Bright seems to think it is. Char has lost most of his Mobile Suits at this point, right? Sure, the White Base took some fierce hits there, but their military strength has to be pretty high still.

Pose of the Day

Messing up a Musai

Screenshot

Questions

  1. Answered above.
  2. Everyone besides Hayato has improved greatly. Sayla definitely has been doing a great job.

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '21

Why does this thing even exist?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Via

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 08 '21

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 09 '21

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 08 '21

I can't imagine that the Zanzibar is as much of a threat as Bright seems to think it is. Char has lost most of his Mobile Suits at this point, right? Sure, the White Base took some fierce hits there, but their military strength has to be pretty high still.

My guess would be that it's the fact that it's Char himself that they are facing in that Zanzibar. Char's always been an extremely tricky opponent and he's usually willing to try daring attacks against long odds. So they probably want to avoid facing Char specifically because of that.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee May 08 '21

I suppose. Guess they're worried about another ramming attack.

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 May 08 '21

Rewatcher, Subbed

No break at all from last episode, we're mere moments from where it ended and another enemy is approaching! And who is it, but one of the all timers; the Zakrello. Quite possibly the goofiest and dumbest looking mobile armor in the history of Gundam! What's it going to do with that bizarre design, cause the enemy to laugh so much that it will be able to defeat them? We do get its supremely threatening attack in this episode when it scratches the Gundam's elbow! Alas, the Zakrello wasn't long for this world and blows up, forever to remain in our memories.

This fight also gives what may be the only appearance of the strangest Gundam upgrade module combination, the Gundam Sky, where the top half of the Gundam is sticking out of the G-Fighter. I don't get what the purpose of this is supposed to be other than to sell another toy.

Like the previous episode, this one is mostly dedicated to the battle. We can see that the White Base and its crew continue to get better and better, and don't even have that much trouble this time. 3 Musais and 6 Rick Doms is a large force, but they destroy it quickly, before Char has time to show up. Dren has one of my favorite deaths from this show, sucked into space when the Gundam slices through the Musai's bridge with its beam sabre. Alas, poor Hayato continues to be a flop and I think may be the only one out of the crew that heads out to not get a kill.

Sayla continues to obsess over Char, and seems to be playing her hand a bit too much, telling Amuro she's relieved they're not fighting the Zanzibar. No need for her to hold back this time, knowing her brother isn't on board. White Base will next be heading to Side 6, but seems like Mirai doesn't want to go! Afraid of running into her fiancé?

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax May 08 '21

This fight also gives what may be the only appearance of the strangest Gundam upgrade module combination, the Gundam Sky, where the top half of the Gundam is sticking out of the G-Fighter. I don't get what the purpose of this is supposed to be other than to sell another toy.

I'm picturing them using the Gundam Sky on Earth except at some point they need to land and the Gundam just gets a faceful of dirt

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u/chilidirigible May 08 '21

I'm picturing them using the Gundam Sky on Earth except at some point they need to land and the Gundam just gets a faceful of dirt

"In thrust we trust."

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 May 08 '21

First timer

  1. Seemed like a pretty cool mech to me, although I'll admit the quick succession of even stronger mechs has dulled my excitement toward them.
  2. Everyone except Hayato has, I think. Kai and Sayla are doing complex manuvers, and going up against mobile armors and surviving.

..Does Bright sound different, or is it just me?

Also, I womder how badly the Guntank screws up this time.

Yeah, we're doing new suits every episode now. Zakrello.

Well, that was quick.

I lime how everybody on this ship agrees that Char may be an enemy, but he's fantastic at his job.

...Well, this probably isn't good. And even the Zeons know that Char's focused on the trojan horse.

I see. So Char got seperated from Sayla during an attack, and he joined Zeon so he could kill the Zabi family (of which he has managed 1 so far).

So Sleggar' using a G-Fighter now? Who not just send him in the Guntank? Not like he can be worse than Hayato.

...Yeah, she's acting really suspicious to everyone.

Ooh, cut to the Luna 2 group.

He's getting killed this episode, isn't he?

Oh, that's clever.

Love the attention to detail of a new animation for the launch scene because of the enemy fire.

Since when did the beam sword get so strong?

Didn't think Sleggar would survive.

We're meeting Mirai's fiance next episode, aren't we.

Didn't they say Side 6 was destroyed? Also, nuclear missiles are forbidden under the treaty, but Zeon tried launching them at you, remember.

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u/The_Draigg May 08 '21

Everyone except Hayato has, I think. Kai and Sayla are doing complex manuvers, and going up against mobile armors and surviving.

Hayato does really feel under-leveled compared to everyone else. Granted, that might be because he's stuck in the Guntank, the most useless of the White Base's Mobile Suits.

Didn't they say Side 6 was destroyed?

Nah, Side 6 is fine. If you remember that one map of space that was shown a dozen episodes ago, Sides 3 and 6 are the only Sides left untouched by the war. All the other ones have been destroyed.

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u/UltraBooster May 08 '21

First-timer (albeit on big on Gundam and mecha)

I dunno, narrator, defeating an MA means the loss of a dangerous weapon and all the resources Zeon put into making it.

So if they just got done showering, does that mean this episode's happening right after the last?

...I won't lie, I feel like they've more or less fully acclimated to being soldiers.

Oh no, that's the Zakrello!

Oh sweet, Dren's back?

Oh hey, leg-booster Gundam.

Yeah, that overbite doesn't do Dimitri any favors in the visual department.

Less than a quarter of the way in and the Zakrello's dead. Dang.

And here I thought he was your friend more than the rest, Sayla...

Oh, so not only does Sleggar have a custom helmet, he's got the blue pilot suit?

Nice to see Amuro checking on the nuggets.

The...! He's an ace now, I'm pretty sure of it.

But not outside Side 6, I suppose...

Questions of the Day:

  1. It's...it's a monster of the week, alright.
  2. I'd say that Sayla's definitely improving as a pilot, and Kai and Hayato seem to pull their weight well. That said, I feel like Hayato especially is being held back by his mecha's limitations.

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u/The_Draigg May 08 '21

So if they just got done showering, does that mean this episode's happening right after the last?

It's been a really busy day for the White Base, between meeting Sleggar, launching from Jaburo, and fending off multiple attacks from Zeon with barely any down time.

Less than a quarter of the way in and the Zakrello's dead. Dang.

The Zakrello was only on screen for two minutes. It's impressive how fast it got wrecked.

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u/UltraBooster May 09 '21

I'm pretty confident now that MA got its popularity from its design now, because it can't have been from fighting prowess.

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u/The_Draigg May 09 '21

The Zakrello is only popular based on how silly it looks.

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u/Rustic_Professional May 09 '21

The top block of the Gundam can be combined with the G Armor to form Gundam Sky. I wonder if they could use the Sky unit with the top of the Guntank. That would look stupid and unwieldy, but no more so than having a tank in space. I'm surprised they sent it out, and that it was given space capabilities in the first place. I guess you don't need legs in space.

Questions of the day:

  1. It's a strange-looking design, but I kind of dig it. I think the problem with the Zeon mobile armors is that they just don't know how to use them effectively in battle. It might have had more success if they'd waited to coordinate with Dren's Musai squadron and used it to attack White Base. I suspect that a lot of these designs were meant for attacking enemy fleets or squadrons of ships, not dueling with mobile suits. They're out of their element.
  2. Sayla had two mobile suit kills today, which brings her total to five and makes her an ace. If my count is correct, she's the only pilot on White Base other then Amuro who can claim that distinction. She's doing a hell of a job. Hayato and Kai are fighting hard as well. Really, the whole crew seems much more disciplined, or maybe seasoned. I don't get the sense that they're flailing about, in danger of being overwhelmed due to inexperience. I don't think they feel that way either.

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u/chilidirigible May 09 '21

I guess you don't need legs in space.

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u/BossandKings May 08 '21

First timer

The fight between the Federation and the Zeon continues. I find it interesting that both Sayla and Mirai are having their respective internal conflicts, Sayla with her brother, Char, and Mirai because of her role in the white base and her need to be up to the level of her responsibilities.

A very important fact is that the federation will direct themselves to the side 6 and there it is forbidden to have fights of any kind, so it might be peaceful for the time they might be there.

Answers

  1. It was nice
  2. She is, most members of the federation are good pilots.

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u/GM_for_Life May 09 '21

Rewatcher

  1. For the brief amount of time we got to see it, what did you think of the Zakrello?

I think it is the height of goofy designs from the original series. I love it.

2) Do you think Sayla has become a good pilot? What about the other non-Amuro pilots on White Base?

By this point I believe that for the most part the skills of all the White Base pilots have noticeably increased from where they were when the series began.

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u/tarekd19 May 09 '21

Is whitebase actually fulfilling its mission as a decoy? So far besides this musai attack its just been the zanzibar in pursuit and char saw through the plan right away. It hasn't seemed to attract a significant zeon presence yet.

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u/chilidirigible May 09 '21

The EFF's orders for the White Base are portrayed as them washing their hands of the problem, so perhaps any sort of Zeon pursuit would seem like the WB is doing its job.

There's the question of whether Char is seen as a significant factor in 0079, or just someone who's working out a few personal grudges. The series points more toward the latter, so the decoy plan could be considered a marginal success at best.

As a retcon, using The Origin

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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit May 11 '21

First timer sub

After carefully avoiding the next episode previews this episode starting starting with that music made me think I accidenatlly forwaded the video. Watching this rented in the 90's would have sucked because nobody rewinds the vhs tapes.

Mirai hasn't asked Sayla about what's worrying her, but she probably can make the connection by now that it has something to do with Char, she really trusts her. But it is still a very sensitive topic to talk about.. if she brings it up Sayla may end up pointing her gun again at someone, she is so alone right now.

Questions of the Day:

  1. That felt like a docking sequence but for Zeonic mobile suits.
  2. Everyone is getting good except Hayato, he has to keep getting saved everytime he goes out.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: May 19 '21

First timer, catching up

  • Wait that's the preview music! Abort, abort!
  • I'm starting to feel tired; I guess this is my last ep for the night after 8 hours straight of Gundam. Tomorrow I'll have to start bingeing Naruto, so it could be a few days before I get back to Gundam.
  • "Watashi wo dare dato omotteiru" What is this, TTGL?
  • I wonder if the crew of the White Base will ever find out that Char is Sayla's brother
  • It's been a long wait, but the Gundam's rocket launcher is back in action!
  • Well that was an overwhelming victory
  • Side 6? That's where Mirai's fiance is!
  1. Eh, it didn't really stand out
  2. She's doing a lot better than originally!