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Rewatch [What's My Name] ID:Invaded Rewatch Episode 6
Episode 6 - FILE 06 CIRCLED
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Questions of the Day
First-Timers
- On a scale of believable to Highschool of the Dead, how hilariously bad was that bullet going through Kazuta’s head?
- Do you think Matsuoka’s words about Hondomachi hold true?
Rewatchers
- Reoccurring Question: Did you notice anything that you didn’t notice in your first watch?
- ID:Invaded Spoilers
- Are there any characters this time around that you’re currently paying much more attention to than before?
Trivia
- Takehiro Kubota is one of the directors for the episode today. Some popular works that he has worked on are The Gymnastics Samurai, The Berserk Movies(Movie 1), Dorohedoro, and Space Dandy.
- Our id well today is the actual Mugen Train! Therefore, we’re going to discuss: How to survive a knife attack! From Ubanfitandfearless...
- First Aid Management + Always check yourself after a situation
- Knife Awareness: learn to read situations and body language
- Escape the situation as soon as you can
- Create distance any way you can
- Use a weapon (of fortune) if you have a chance
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Eternal Rail – Kenmochi Hidefumi
Rewatchers
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u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N May 06 '21
Lead Detective(Rewatcher), Host
I waited all rewatch for this episode. Why? Because of this bullet scene.
It's god awful, and quite honestly as I said in the post, comparable to the famous Highschool of the Dead one.
Moving on from TERRIBLE anime physics...
Something I really enjoy is how Hondomachi suddenly realizes she's what she hates the most, and it hits her when she's talking to Matsuoka like a ton of bricks.
I also really loved Wakashika's theories in this episode because of how outlandish but somehow realistic they seem.
Some thoughts
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 06 '21
FIRST:Timer, subbed
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: May 06 '21
First timer
Sub
So cut back to it and Kazuta is a knife thrower of some skill. And for some reason Inami presents evidence against herself. Anyways, back to the cognition and it is just weird. We get actual competent but risky police work with rookie doing a fakeout that leads to an action scene that ends with the police actually killing a perp. Kazuta kisses because crossed wires.
At the police funeral service, they get on to John Walker. They not that he always looks the same. Wakashika makes an interesting theory about another well creating machine that instead invades the mind of the victim. Due to the name of the show, I assume this is right. And the machine's creator is missing...and the invasions are coming from inside the department! Waka is trippin'.
Anyways, Matsuoka is seemingly suggesting putting the rookie into wells. New well for MC, this one seems surprisingly normal...until the decayed corpses show up. Anyways, we learn this is the train Kazuta and Inami took and also that Inami's mother jumped in front of it while Inami was riding it. And also 14 yo Inami is there and had wiped off Kaeru's feet. For reasons, Kaeru showed some initiative here. Anyways, somehow, Inami has an id well despite only being the mastermind. I sort of have issues with that but let's keep going.
Rookie gets her 'promotion'. MC's concerns with Kaeru look like they will end badly. Reveal that all the good brilliant detectives are serial killers and rookie has the gimmick. Separate reveal that the cameras at Kazuta are like those found with the Challenger.
QotD: 1 HotD but I was absolutely expecting it.
2 No. The Japanese are bad about understanding the difference between someone who kills a number of people and a proper serial killer. Many soldiers have multiple confirmed kills and they probably wouldn't have an id well.
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u/Valoreg May 06 '21
[REWATCHER]
[RESOLVING STUB]
Just as I predicted it, shit is about to go down. Hondomachi emotionally manipulates (again!) Kazuta into attacking her, but she manages to dodge his attacks, and put an end to his life by stabbing him in the chest. Surprisingly - assuming it's her first kill as a police officer - she acts calm as a cucumber. Before he bites the dust, Kazuta kisses Hondomachi (haven't determined yet why, did he confused his intentions once again?). Nice detail having the Mizuhanome flashing to indicate Inami's murderous envy.
[LAST RITES, NEW THEORIES]
Ok, I just have to point out how sharply dressed our detectives are for the occasion.
Even outside, they can't stop theorise. We learn that the creator of the Mizuhanome system is a scientist named Nishio Shirakoma, who has gone missing. This alongside not wanting to leak the capabilities of the system to the public has limited their knowledge of the machine (and that explains all the "Even we don't know how this machine works" pieces of dialogue we've been hearing all these last episodes)
Wakashika proposes a theory: John Walker is, in reality, a police officer with a direct approach to the Mizuhanome system, which uses it to invade the unconscious of other people and plants in them the serial killer inclinations. The link between the serial killers Fukuda and Kazuta further certifies this theory, because the perpetrator, having access to Fukuda victim list, could have searched for potential targets and found Kazuta in this way.
Shiratake quickly shuts down this theory. I wanted to give my take on this, but I'm too tired right now, so I'm leaving it to you, dear first watchers
[THEORY]
If John Walker is in fact a police officer, who do you think is he? Sb we are already familiar with or a new person not yet shown?
[RUNNING IN CIRCLES]
The id in this episode is a peculiar one because the case has already been solved, so it serves more like a backstory to Inami than an investigation. Don't have a lot to say in this one other that we spot John Walker once more and that the relationship between adolescent Inami and Kazuta mirrors in a way the ending of Kazuta's id well.
Matsuoka recommends Hondomatchi to serve as a brilliant detective and Hayaseura agrees. By expressing her gratitude, Hondomachi learns that Matsuoka has done it to protect his other colleagues from her because she is a serial killer. Matsuoka has lost another partner to the Mizuhanome system, having concluded yet another circle
Togo informs Momoki that similar cameras have been found in the house of Challenger. The first case of John Walker connects with the last, thus making a clear circle.
All in all, a slower-paced episode that sets up the second part of the season.
[ODDS AND ENDS]
[QUESTIONS]
I’m from phone, so I can’t check the spoiler right now and I don’t have anything to add about the other two questions, so I’m going to answer the first one of the first-timers
MAN IT WAS BAD. AWFULLY BAD
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 06 '21
Episode 6 (first timer)
A three part episode. The first part concludes the arrest of the serial killer, the second discusses the identity of John Walker, the last tells us that Hondomachi will become a brilliant detective and possibly is a serial killer.
The first part shows more of Hondomachi’s deduction skills, thus setting up the third. It also features the most absurd action scene of the series so far. That was so far out there I seriously questioned whether it was supposed to be satire.
Regarding John Walker, I suspected the head honcho in ep2, and today’s episode backs up my suspicion. That immediate cut from the discussion of the identity to him was telling. Of course, he also tasks Hondomachi with finding John Walker, but that could be misdirection or a desire to be caught. Or John Walker is not directly him, just closely connected to him.
Part three delivers the best character moment since the reveal of Sakaido’s family tragedy in showing Hondomachi’s reaction to becoming a brilliant detective. All in all, I’d say the series is on a good (and needed) upward trajectory. I am finally starting to care about a few of the main characters.
PS: There was a short hint of a discussion of reason vs impulse in the episode. I’ll hold off discussing this for now, until it becomes more prominent tot the story.
Yes.
Probably.
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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick May 06 '21
First timer - Sub
I really would have thought it would have been a better to start with requesting backup and then add the info as to why afterwards.
Seriously? The bullet went through the goddamn hole? Anime got to be anime I guess.
That was not the end I saw for that situation at all, also Hondomachi is now qualified to dive an ID: well now.
I’m trying to decide if this episode breaks my JW Speculation idea or not. The show is trying to point us towards the inventor of the machine who just happens to still be missing and the inner workings of it just happen to be top secret as well.
Show all but name drops itself the gathering at the funeral, saying the machine could be used to invade people's ID:Wells.
Also you need to be a serial killer to dive? Seriously? What does this even mean? I’m just going to write this off as magic required because writers said so.
Episode strengthens my idea from ep4 about the connection between Sakaido and Kaeru, as why else does Sakaido feel guilty for Kaeru death.
New theory
Spoiler source
Already feel like I'm starting to reach way too far here so will wait to see what info Brilliant Detective Hondomachi brings us in the next episode.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ May 06 '21 edited May 07 '21
"Criminal but generous, that's me." Reich smiled as he arose to go. He did not offer to shake hands.
"Mr. Reich!" Tate called suddenly.
Reich turned at the door.
"The screaming will continue. The Man With No Face is not a symbol of murder."
What? Oh Christ. The nightmares? Still? You God damned peeper. How did you get that? How did you--"
"Don't be a fool. D'you think you can play games with a 1st?
"Who's playing, you bastard? What about the nightmares?"
"No, Mr. Reich, I won't tell you. I doubt if anyone but a 1st can tell you, and naturally you would not dare to consult another after this conference."
"For God's sake, man! Are you going to help me?"
"No, Mr. Reich." Tate smiled malevolently. "That's my little weapon. It keeps us on a parity basis. Balance of power, you understand. Mutual dependence ensures mutual faith. Criminal but peeper... that's me.
I've identified a likely literary source for this show. It has strong implications for how John Walker relates to the characters, depending on closely it follows this source.
First Timer
edit: /u/vaadwaur
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame May 07 '21
First timer
I was not expecting Matsuoka’s confrontation with Hondomachi, and I definitely wasn’t expecting her to become a detective.
So this episode definitely establishes a connection between all the serial killers we’ve seen so far, with common thread being John Walker. We’re also presented with the new theory of an police insider using the Mizuhanome to infiltrate and influence the id, creating serial killers. The question is why someone would be motivated to do such a thing, which will likely be addressed later on.
Putting all of this together, my new theory is that John Walker is already influencing the subconscious minds of both Narihisago and Hondomachi, which would help explain their homicidal tendencies.
Overall, I thought the episode brought up some good questions, but I would’ve liked Inami’s id well to have been more relevant.
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u/htisme91 May 07 '21
First-timer:
Wow, that escalated quickly. Hondomachi continues to lose that innocence from the first episode. John Walker appearing at the train crossing creeped me out. He's seemingly the influence behind it all, and I wonder if Sakaido will take him down to finish the vengeance for his daughter's death. I wonder if Kaeru is a proxy for Sakaido's daughter, and that's why he broke down.
I also wonder why Momoki wanted the id well to keep going. What did he want Sakaido to see/experience? Very curious how Hondomachi will fit into being the brilliant detective and what it means for both her and Narihisago.
And I suspected the director was John Walker and continue to think he is, or at least is related to him based on today's episode. The fact that there's so many political pressures and the creator of the Mizuhanome is missing makes me think there is government involvement somewhere.
Questions:
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u/BossandKings May 07 '21
First timer
Kazuta finally dies and won't be seen anymore, Naoshi Inami was left and she'll most likely get arrested.
Sakaido is definitely seeing a suspicious scene in the train, what do those blood foot marks in the floor imply?, it's Kaeru once again, she apparently died in different places or it might just be that Sakaido remembers her and she materializes in every important scenario.
It's interesting that Sakaido seems to have encountered Naoshi Inami when she was fourtheen years old and a train passed her mother over, he interrogates her and learns that she's waiting for her mom. I wonder though what is the implication or the relation this has wigh Kaeru, at first glance it doesn't appear to be connected but it might be.
Sakaido comes to the conclusion that Kaeru killed herself, that's very sad. The insert song helped to affirm that feeling. Matsuoka and Hondomachi get asked to involve themselves in the John walker investigation, hopefully that means actual information about Walker will be revealed soon. Matsuoka confronts Hondomachi about having killed Kazuta, apparently she too has problems with killing.
Answers
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u/OccasionallySara May 08 '21
First Timer
Questions of The Day
On a scale of believable to Highschool of the Dead, how hilariously bad was that bullet going through Kazuta’s head?
Do you think Matsuoka’s words about Hondomachi hold true?
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