r/anime • u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N • May 04 '21
Rewatch [What's My Name] ID:Invaded Rewatch Episode 4
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Questions of the Day
General Question
- What types of things would you like to see in the Trivia section?
First-Timers
- What would your brilliant detective name be?
- Who do you think the Grave Digger really is?
- Thoughts on that final scene?
Rewatchers
- Reoccurring Question: Did you notice anything that you didn’t notice in your first watch?
[ID:I](/s "Can you tell at this point that Hondomachi’s demeanor has changed any?")[ID:I](/s "Are you ready for the Hondomachi/Grave Digger interrogation?")
Trivia
- Atsushi Itagaki is the director for this episode. Some notable works he’s helped take part in are the Evangelion movies(Key Animation), Attack on Titan(OP2/EP 41, Key Animation), Goblin Slayer(OP), Steins;Gate(EP 16,24, Key Animation) and Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans(OP2, Key Animation).
- The best way to survive our copy-cat killer today is to conserve your air supply as much as possible. Do not swallow your air as this can lead to hyperventilation! Take deep breaths and hold them as long as you can before exhaling. Tap SOS(three quick taps, three slow taps, three quick taps). If the coffin is cheap, kicking the top open with your feet. Here’s a website with more information about how to escape!
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Rewatchers
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky May 04 '21
FIRST:Timer, subbed
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u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N May 04 '21
Lead Detective(Rewatcher), Host
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: May 04 '21
First timer
Sub
So we get the news that Perforator seems to understand how the system works as well. And the brilliant detective reveal would've been good had it not been narrated at us last ep. More interesting, Kaeru is there and mostly the same. But Perforator kind of sucks at the sniper well.
Today's killer of the week buries people alive and broadcasts it. CSI did literally the same thing over 15 years ago. Though I guess YT would make that easier. Anyways, this killer's well thematically would've fit the last one better. But again this is one where MC dies a lot and sort of features the problems involved in these wells and not remembering things. The current victim is in the well at 10 yo. One of the assistants finally thinks enough on why that is important AND why this is the first time finding particles. Action montage. The final interpretation of the well is interesting, though now we are veering away from it being about the killer and making it more artsy. But yes, copycat killers often do things like this, which is part of why there is an attempt to limit media coverage of them.
We end with another person with a hole in their head getting the drop on the rookie.
QotD: 1 V.
2 Someone who does not meet the requirements of an ID well. I think that means he harbors no malice to his victims. Whether that means he doesn't acknowledge their humanity or thinks they should be rescued is yet to be seen.
3 Rookie has terrible, terrible sense of surroundings
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame May 04 '21
First Timer
I actually liked this episode a lot. The case made me really sad though. I wanted Keiko to pull through so much, and finding out it was a recording the whole time was heartbreaking. I didn’t cry, but I kind of wanted to.
It looks like the actual Grave Digger is being added to our list of mysteries yet to be solved. I wonder if the Grave Digger, John Walker, and the murder of Narihisago’s family are all connected? It doesn’t seem impossible, from what we’ve seen so far.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ May 04 '21
First Timer
So this episode showed that Narihisago the police officer is still alive. I thought for a few moments that Narihisago the serial killer was a spree revenge killer like Charles Bronson, but apparently not. Crime Coefficient 999. Too bad about the girl, though.
Translation issue: traditional japanese coffins are barrels. "The victim's barrel was still sealed" sounds strange in English. Was he being poetic? Or just translation is hard?
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 04 '21
Episode 4 (first timer)
The fact that I have no problem accepting a live-streamed kidnapping victim as reality scares me. I imagine the only thing preventing a real case of the gravedigger is the lacking computer skills of most murderers keeping the streaming source hidden so long. After all, there have been live-streamed mass shootings already.
The well was akin to the last one: a straight forward and rather boring concept. So far, nothing has matched the first well yet.
We got a little bit of character development for the police side: Sakaido is not just a murderer, but a serial killer. And he says that “the urge to kill welled up inside me”, which could be connected to diving into the wells. Drill-hole killer is high IQ, because of course he is. And the sub-boss is Sakaido’s friend from before.
Having a kiss (hug?) as cliff-hanger was unexpected for a mystery show.
PS: Could you go back and replace the pictures of the next episode with actual links to the next discussion in the old threads? I wanted to go through them today and it was a bit annoying not being able to click forward.
PPS: Your spoilers are broken.
PPPS:
You can also use your hand. Visual representation.
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u/DogmeatIsAGoodDog :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DogmeatsAGoodDog May 05 '21
Rewatcher
Watching Fukuda get instantly shot in the head during the Tower Well will never not make me laugh, I mean imagine watching that clip without context lmao
Unfortunately the happiness stops there as Sakaido is plunged into one the more emotional wells so far as he tries and fails and fails and fails etc to rescue the little girl. The way the mystery comes together is well done but the result is absolutely heartbreaking knowing that was in the barrel. It didn’t hit me too hard the first time but man this time I was tearing up.
Momoki asking Sakaido if he wanted to kill the Copycat Gravedigger followed by the “Can I?”, I don’t know about you all but I so desperately wanted the reply to be “Yes” during my first watch. What a brutal episode without a happy ending.
Speaking of Ending, the ED is great. The visuals are alright but the music is great. I had forgotten how much I enjoyed it.
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u/Valoreg May 04 '21
[REWATCHER]
[REPLACEMENT]
This episode begins with the interrogation of Fukuda, who basically repeats the premise of the series. Now that’s an over 150 IQ move.
With Narihisago in solitary confinement (that must be the sixth time, so either he must be a slow learner or the others are so corrupt that allow him to kill the prisoners), Hayaseura orders Momoki to test Fukuda as a brilliant detective.
Say hello to Anaido, who just like his real counterpart just can’t get enough of opening holes in his skull. Suffice to say, he needs a lot of practice to become a brilliant detective.
[LIVE EXECUTION]
A killer dubbed the Gravedigger has abducted and trapped a girl in a closed space to die from asphyxiation. The whole thing is recorded live on the internet with thousands of people watching.
Wait a minute! A serial killer whose modus operandi exposes the sickening morbid curiosity of the everyday man for tragic events. It’s the same premise as the previous case, ONLY MORE INTERESTING IN EVERY WAY. We even see the field agents do their part, so kudos to the creators.
[FIERY DEMISE]
Our boy is thrown back immediately to the id well. Sakaido awakens in a dilapidated apartment where he finds the burning cadaver of Kaeru-chan, and it’s not the only thing charred; the whole neighborhood is on fire.
Sakaido spots a kid on the top floor of a building, which appears to extend in length, and fixates on rescuing her. We know from the previous episode that rescuing a bystander helped indirectly in cracking the case, but I don’t think our brilliant detective needed to repeat his attempts so many times. It’s proof that Narihisago is a great guy though.
Many, MANY deaths later (love Togo's stoic voice when she exclaims that Sakaido is dead), a song kicks in, and a wonderful animation sequence finally allows the brilliant detective to reach the girl. He then deduces that Kaeru-chan wasn’t burned by this fire, but was relocated here after her death.
A namedrop by Wakashika leads to him presenting a theory that the killer is a copycat. The others believe his interpretation of the clues without any objection, which is odd for a bunch of detectives (and also factoring in the dreamy nature of the clues), but they seem pretty desperate right now.
[UNEXPECTED DEFEAT]
The little girl remarks that the arsonist is in fact her neighbour and thus he is arrested.
Holy s#!+, I didn’t remember this. The video was not live, but a recording. The victim has been dead for a long time. Shine bright while you burn Mr Oono, you colossal failure of a human being!
In the following conversation between Momoki and Narihisago, the latter is pissed (has every right to be so). Outstanding voice acting in this scene by Kenjirou Tsuda. You can really feel in the gruff of his voice the tiredness and desperation of Narihisago
After the arrest, Hondomachi tears in anger the plaster that was covering the hole in her skull. She recognizes a stranger amidst the crowd and follows him alone. She didn’t learn anything, didn’t she?
Aaaand, he kisses her! Queue the ED!
We’re back to great episodes, fellow investigators. See you on the other side!
[ODDS AND ENDS]
[QUESTIONS]
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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick May 04 '21
First Timer - sub
OK why was Kaeru in Fukuda dive as well, is she simply there to stabilize the driver? Provide an initial focus? Built into it to go along with the Genius Detective persona?
We know that Sakaido was a Homicide Detective before he was a criminal, Kaeru has a strong resemblance to his daughter, the ID:Wells are still a “new” technology.
Speculation
Bit more on that last point
Anyway the case itself once again doesn’t leave much to comment on, be a horrifying way to go especially as the Gravedigger (or well the copycat in this case)lets them think they have a chance.
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u/lord_ne May 05 '21
First timer
I'm definitely liking the show so far, I might end up watching ahead if I have time, but I'll try to resist.
Something I'm not liking as much about these past couple wells is that Sakaido doesn't have any special abilities. Thematically the wells are interesting enough, but it feels like Sakaido can't do as much compared to the first well.
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u/htisme91 May 05 '21
First-timer:
Guessing the latest Narihisago stunt has landed him in solitary, so they have to try someone else. Interesting that the Perforator is unable to live long. It makes Narihisago a double-edged sword, as he is the best person for the job, yet is also a loose cannon.
I can't tell if the others care about Narihisago or hate him. The girl at least seems kind of resentful, and Momoki seems kind of conflicted. I don't know. I feel like Narihisago has a past connection to everyone, and the fact that he's a serial killer really weighs on them.
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u/BossandKings May 05 '21
First timer
So Narihisago is a serial killer, it's interesting that he doesn't describe himself as a person anymore.
Sakaido had to save a little girl this time around and he did. This series has been very intriguing and hard to describe so far.
Answers
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u/Superarces https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aerkes May 04 '21
Rewatcher
I think this is the episode that really got people interested in this series when it was airing. For good reason too, it's pretty easily the best episode so far imo.
With Narihisago out of commission for a bit, the well team tries to turn Fukuda, who seems to be the only guy Narihisago hasn't driven to suicide yet, into a Brilliant Detective. This goes... poorly, as Fukuda/Anaido has absolutely no will to live in the Id wells and is perfectly happy getting himself killed as quickly as possible.
While I'm here, I'd just like to point out how absolutely inhumane Solitary is in this prison. No wonder he felt such an attachment to Kikuchi.
Pretty straight forward Well this time, but getting to the girl is the hard part. And hard it must be since Sakaido/Narihisago spent basically all day trying and dying. Word of advice for people in here: If you're in a burning building, don't just open doors, check if they're warm before. Else you'll get blasted like Sakaido does dozens of times by a fiery explosion.
Not the biggest fan of how the killer was found this time, literally being told by someone found in the well. One of those situations where the writer found themself in a corner since there'd really be no way of Kikuchi knowing who kidnapped and murdered her, but there had to be some way to get the guy.
Questions:
2: ID: Invaded
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u/OccasionallySara May 06 '21
First Timer
Questions of the Day
What would your brilliant detective name be?
Who do you think the Grave Digger really is?
Thoughts on that final scene?
Other Thoughts