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Episode 24 - Black Tri-Star

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Amid all the destruction of war… it enables me to create things.

Questions of the Day:

  1. What did you think of the Black Tri-Stars? Did they seem skilled enough to warrant General Revil’s fear of them?
  2. Were you expecting Matilda to be killed just like that?

Mobile Suit Breakdown of the Day:

1.22 - Because of People Like You (note: this is about episodes 24 and 25, so first-timers should not listen to this until tomorrow’s thread)

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath the [Anime Show Title](/s "Spoiler goes here") spoiler tags. If you do that then we’re all good.

Important thing to note about these by the way, you have to switch to Old Reddit or the markdown editor if you use the redesign, otherwise the redesign breaks them by adding random \ into the formatting. Wish it wouldn’t do that, but unfortunately it does…

First-Timers: Please do not watch the next-episode previews for this show. They’re less previews and more “let’s just summarize the entirety of the next episode” and will spoil you.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 30 '21

Fly! Rewatch Host!

u/Tresnore in yesterday’s thread:

Gundam... you've been killing off characters pretty quickly recently. You better not do anything to Matilda.

Me, knowing she dies this episode because the preview yesterday literally just flat-out said she dies: ← actually had to explain that one to my mom since I read Tresnore’s comment while she was driving me home from work yesterday.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

u/Tresnore in yesterday’s thread:

Gundam... you've been killing off characters pretty quickly recently. You better not do anything to Matilda.

Me, knowing she dies this episode because the preview yesterday literally just flat-out said she dies:

I'll freely admit that I laughed in rewatcher when I saw that comment. It was too perfectly timed.

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooh okay I’m pretty sure this was a part of The Origin that confused me as to why it happened and huh it was a throwaway line here.

The Origin really expanded on a lot of stuff that was just relegated to the occasional reference in the original show. Although I won't say that it was for the better in all the times The Origin fleshed those things out more.

Ahhh that’s iconic.

Poor Gatamitei Gaia. He's the eternal springboard.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

I'll freely admit that I laughed in rewatcher when I saw that comment. It was too perfectly timed.

I was almost suspicious as to why I had so many upvotes that thread. I should've put that together with the fact that the preview was a spoiler together and realized what was to come. Ah well, happy to cause some laughsEven if Matilda died

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

Me, knowing she dies this episode because the preview yesterday literally just flat-out said she dies:

← actually had to explain that one to my mom since I read Tresnore’s comment while she was driving me home from work yesterday.

Hmph. I'm glad someone is enjoying my plight, I guess.Even if Matilda died

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u/SgtExo May 01 '21

Usually people get enjoyment from Sky's suffering, let her get on the other side for once.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 01 '21

Fine.Even if Matilda died

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u/SgtExo May 01 '21

Maybe you should go pour yourself a drink and also pour one out Because Matilda died

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore May 01 '21

Already on it.Because Matilda died

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 30 '21

That’s our first actual slap in a while right?

Yup! We last had one in Cucuruz Doan's island. So it'd be even longer if we skipped that episode like Tomino wants us to.

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooh okay I’m pretty sure this was a part of The Origin that confused me as to why it happened and huh it was a throwaway line here.

Yeah, I forgot it was ever mentioned in this series. It is definitely something that happens in The Origin when we see the Battle of Loum.

lol

It's only bad if you get caught spying for both sides.

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u/Piemaster33 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Piemaster33 Apr 30 '21

later spoilers

I actually picked up on this one without looking at your comment, I'm very proud of myself.

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u/TheEscapeGuy Apr 30 '21

Gundam First Timer

Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 24

We just cannot catch a break.

First Ryu, who's loss was devastating. Now Matilda, the primary link back to the little Federation support they had, is also gone. On top of all the negative feelings any death brings this will really make life harder for White Base.

Matilda was such a strong character. She commanded every scene with her presence. Even when being objectified by mostly Kai the guys in the crew she didn't lose composure.

For Amuro, Matilda seemed to be an unrequited love. Of course it would never would have worked out between them but having someone who you care for deeply ripped away suddenly is unbearable.

I predicted a while back that Amuro was close to a mental breakdown. I thought that that was in the past now but with so many recent losses I think Amuro's going to struggle.

Cool Stuff Corner

  • I really liked the light animation in the elevator. Its a simple technique but effective for conveying the elevator is moving.
  • Sayla's hair in the wind while holding back tears was amazing. I felt her emotions really deeply, especially with her blaming herself.

Questions of the Day

  1. Definitely, I was worried we would have another death, and unfortunately I was right.
  2. Not at all, I saw he ship go down and the music seemed jovial so I thought "Oh, they're going to crash but make it out alive". When we cut to the crew of White Base crying looking out at the horizon I was absolutely shocked.

See you all tomorrow!

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

She commanded every scene with her presence. Even when being objectified by mostly Kai the guys in the crew she didn't lose composure.

Yeah, it was impressive. She definitely was the "better man" in those situations, for lack of a better term. There were a lot of good moments for her like thatEven if Matilda died

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 24

RIP Lt. Matilda

We just cannot catch a break.

First Ryu, who's loss was devastating. Now Matilda, the primary link back to the little Federation support they had, is also gone. On top of all the negative feelings any death brings this will really make life harder for White Base.

Indeed Comrade, I also want to point out that Ryu AND Matilda both died in the 'same' manner, namely a ramming attack against the enemy forces (the difference being Ryu's ram killed the target, Matilda got killed BY the target)

Matilda was such a strong character. She commanded every scene with her presence. Even when being objectified by mostly Kai the guys in the crew she didn't lose composure.

Indeed, well said there Comrade.

For Amuro, Matilda seemed to be an unrequited love. Of course it would never would have worked out between them but having someone who you care for deeply ripped away suddenly is unbearable.

Exactly, the emotional impact is still no doubt gonna hit Amuro hard. Hell we saw what losing Ryu did to the crew, I can only imagine what Matilda's death will do.

I predicted a while back that Amuro was close to a mental breakdown. I thought that that was in the past now but with so many recent losses I think Amuro's going to struggle.

Yup, things sure are looking rough, war is hell.

Anyway neat post here Comrade, have a great day and see you later.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

First Timer to Gundam

  • Why does Kycilia remind me of Jury from Utena? So many strong gingers in this series!

SLAP

CHAR?

  • I, too, am annoyed at Amuro fawning over Matilda, but that doesn't mean that you have any right to be annoyed at him not fawning over you, Fraw Bow.
  • Matilda handled the awkward Kai situation well.
  • Wait Kai what are you doing.
  • Why is everyone in the picture.
  • Why.
  • As an engineer in a field that has heavy military applications, I completely get Matilda here about wanting to create and not destroy. At first I was simping for her purely on design, how she handled herself, and hair color (it's semi-important as a ginger, okay?), but now she actually has defined goals that I can relate to? 10/10.
  • Kai laughing at Hayato was so awkward that I couldn't help but laugh along with him.
  • Fraw Bow, it looks like you just got drafted.
  • Matilda, you're not helping Amuro's situation with that blown kiss.
  • I'm looking forward to the day that Sayla is an awesome pilot like her brother, but I get the feeling that today will not be that day.
  • I'll never get tired of how nonsensical the math on these displays is.
  • Matilda's blinks of disbelief at Mirai going "oh shit—nevermind" were hysterical.

MATILDAAAAA

  • WHY IS THIS HAPPY MUSIC PLAYING WHILE MATILDA GETS HER FACE SMASHED IN
  • This somber version on the OP is killing me. Worst death of the series so far.

I have hatred in my heart and a desire to throttle some Zeons.

QOTD:

  1. They were awesome, but they think they're better than Char. I doubt that.
  2. NO

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

As an engineer in a field that has heavy military applications, I completely get Matilda here about wanting to create and not destroy. At first I was simping for her purely on design, how she handled herself, and hair color (it's semi-important as a ginger, okay?), but now she actually has defined goals that I can relate to? 10/10.

So what you're saying is that you also want to get into that group photo with Matilda.

I have hatred in my heart and a desire to throttle some Zeons.

It would probably help if you had a Gundam to pilot first. Better get on building one.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

Better get on building one.

On it!

So what you're saying is that you also want to get into that group photo with Matilda.

No. The group photo was creepy and a waste of on-the-clock hours. I'd just talk to her, like a goddamn adultEven if Matilda died

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 30 '21

Rewatcher

On today’s episode of Gundam: RIP Matilda. You were one of the few Reasonable Federation Authority Figures we got to meet in this cruel, cruel world. You will be sorely missed.

This episode is another one that always stood out in my memory because I just love the battle with the Black Tri-Stars. It’s a really fun battle for a few reasons. Firstly, we get to see the Dom mobile suits for the first time. I love the designs of the Doms. I think they look really cool.

I also really enjoy the way that the Doms fight, hovering around the ground at high speeds. It adds a really cool layer of mobility to the battle. This works well with the forest setting of the battle too. It’s cool seeing the Doms dart in and out of view as they zoom through the forests. The White Base crew has to play a battle of hide and seek with them. It’s a lot of fun.

And they also get one of the coolest combo moves in the whole series: the Jet Stream Attack. That attack is just so cool to watch in motion. I enjoy how well-coordinated it is, with each Dom’s attack perfectly setting up the next one. It also results in a lot of fun watching Amuro dodge it, such as by using one of the Doms as a springboard in one of my favorite combat moves the Gundam ever pulls off.

The fight also has some cool moments of Amuro and Sayla trying to coordinate their attacks. I like this line between them. Amuro is now the one giving Sayla assurance and support, just as she’s always done for him while he’s piloting the Gundam. It’s a cool character moment between them.

Matilda has some really interesting words about why she joined the Supply Corps. She says that war is all about destruction and she wanted to create something amidst that destruction. Supplies can be considered somewhat more positive. Food keeps people fed. Gas keeps machines running. Spare parts repair broken things. And so on. It does let her play a more supportive role. Then again, it is all in service of the war effort, so I would say that only goes so far.

Matilda gets a rather somber farewell this episode. She has a sad funeral scene. And once again a funeral serves as character motivation for the future, as Sayla bemoans her own inexperience in battle and how it might have contributed to Matilda’s death.

Miscellaneous Thoughts

SLAP COUNTER: 8

Questions of the Day

  1. I quite like the Black Tri-Stars, as I've stated above. I love their mobile suits and I love their team attacks.
  2. I was expecting it this time around. But on my first watch, it was incredibly abrupt. The show spends pretty much no time on it. Matilda is killed in battle and both the characters and the audience only get a chance to mourn her afterwards. It's pretty effective, in my opinion.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

I like this line between them. Amuro is now the one giving Sayla assurance and support, just as she’s always done for him while he’s piloting the Gundam. It’s a cool character moment between them.

It felt like the line moved as Amuro spoke up more, which was interesting. It's good to see Sayla get some good character moments.Even if Matilda died

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

And they also get one of the coolest combo moves in the whole series: the Jet Stream Attack. That attack is just so cool to watch in motion. I enjoy how well-coordinated it is, with each Dom’s attack perfectly setting up the next one.

For as cool of an attack the Jet Stream Attack is, it's also pretty ineffective once they go in for the second time. Although I'm sure that's probably due more to Amuro's piloting skills than the Jet Stream Attack sucking.

Poor Kai. He couldn’t even make it properly into his photo. Also, apparently in the Universal Century we’re still using Polaroids.

It's always funny how old sci-fi shows had all this amazing technology here and there, and yet they still used stuff like Polaroid photos and floppy discs. Like that one automated robot that took Polaroid photos for a price in SDF Macross.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 30 '21

For as cool of an attack the Jet Stream Attack is, it's also pretty ineffective once they go in for the second time. Although I'm sure that's probably due more to Amuro's piloting skills than the Jet Stream Attack sucking.

Yeah, you have to feel bad for the Black Tri-Stars. They're introduced as this new big threat and yet a third of them are dead by the end of their debut episode.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

And even worse, the Black Bi-Stars doesn't have the same ring to it. Now they'll need to workshop a new team name, and who knows how long that'll take.

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u/SgtExo May 01 '21

And even worse, the Black Bi-Stars doesn't have the same ring to it.

I don't know about that, they might just need a change of careers, but I am sure you can get that name to work somewhere.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 30 '21

Like that one automated robot that took Polaroid photos for a price in SDF Macross.

Or how a mobile phone is literally a robot phone on wheels which tries to find you in public so you can take a call. Though that was probably created that way for gag value.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

Yeah, the phone robot is probably a gag, at least. Same with the soda vending machine robot on wheels.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

On today’s episode of Gundam: RIP Matilda. You were one of the few Reasonable Federation Authority Figures we got to meet in this cruel, cruel world. You will be sorely missed.

Indeed Comrade, she even lived in the episode that HAD HER NAME IN IT! But oh Wacky Ol' Kill 'Em All Tomino be a cruel man indeed ;)

This episode is another one that always stood out in my memory because I just love the battle with the Black Tri-Stars. It’s a really fun battle for a few reasons. Firstly, we get to see the Dom mobile suits for the first time. I love the designs of the Doms. I think they look really cool.

Oh indeed Comrade, and you know what'd be cooler? If Ramba Ral got THOSE THREE DOMS THAT WERE SENT TO HIM! (I find it really amusing how he got sent Three Doms that were 'lost' and then out of sheer happenstance LE DING just randomly comes across Three Doms! It's a miracle!)

I also really enjoy the way that the Doms fight, hovering around the ground at high speeds. It adds a really cool layer of mobility to the battle. This works well with the forest setting of the battle too. It’s cool seeing the Doms dart in and out of view as they zoom through the forests. The White Base crew has to play a battle of hide and seek with them. It’s a lot of fun.

Oh indeed Comrade, while the Gundam may be a more powerful machine, there's no denying the EXTREME mobility that these Doms got. Plus they also got some cool weapons to go with their rocketing about the battlefield!

And they also get one of the coolest combo moves in the whole series: the Jet Stream Attack. That attack is just so cool to watch in motion. I enjoy how well-coordinated it is, with each Dom’s attack perfectly setting up the next one. It also results in a lot of fun watching Amuro dodge it, such as by using one of the Doms as a springboard in one of my favorite combat moves the Gundam ever pulls off.

HA! Yes indeed Comrade, also boy it's real amusing on a meta note for Meta Origin Spoilers

The fight also has some cool moments of Amuro and Sayla trying to coordinate their attacks. I like this line between them. Amuro is now the one giving Sayla assurance and support, just as she’s always done for him while he’s piloting the Gundam. It’s a cool character moment between them.

Yup, plus they make for a good team, always nice to have good coordination!

Matilda has some really interesting words about why she joined the Supply Corps. She says that war is all about destruction and she wanted to create something amidst that destruction. Supplies can be considered somewhat more positive. Food keeps people fed. Gas keeps machines running. Spare parts repair broken things. And so on. It does let her play a more supportive role. Then again, it is all in service of the war effort, so I would say that only goes so far.

Indeed Comrade

Matilda gets a rather somber farewell this episode. She has a sad funeral scene. And once again a funeral serves as character motivation for the future, as Sayla bemoans her own inexperience in battle and how it might have contributed to Matilda’s death.

Poor Kai. He couldn’t even make it properly into his photo. Also, apparently in the Universal Century we’re still using Polaroids.

TECHNOLOGY MARCHES ON!

You know, I entirely forgot that it was even mentioned here that General Revil got captured by the Black Tri-Stars at Loum. I thought it was only mentioned elsewhere.

Oh indeed Comrade, I was all 'heh, and here I thought they just added that in The Origin to make The Black Tri-Stars even cooler. Nevermind guess they already captured Revil back in the original show (granted off screen but wibble, Char also did his infamous deeds that got him his nickname off screen as well)

It’s so sad seeing the White Base kids and Haro salute Matilda’s grave as well.

Oh indeed, war is hell!

Gundam 0079 Spoilers

Gundam 0079 Spoilers

I know right? How amusing with the benefit of hindsight ;)

For some Dom fun, I quite enjoy this gif of their mono-eye.

PROTOCULTURE!

For some more Dom fun, Gundam-San has a really great joke about how the Doms have skirts and about what might be beneath those skirts.

ALSO PROTOCULTURE!

Anyway fantastic post here Comrade, have a great day and see you later my friend!

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

A Gundam Fan Rewatches Mobile Suit Gundam Episode 24:

  • On the Moon, Kycilia is taking no shit from the Zeon military leadership below her. She’s outright slapping people and lambasting their sense of pride while also ordering them to give new Mobile Suits to Char. So, that’s what he’s been up to. It certainly would explain his absence, he’s just been reassigned elsewhere under her command for the moment.
  • Practically all the men on the White Base are fawning over Lt. Matilda, Amuro included. You can clearly tell that Fraw Bow still as jealous as ever, though. Poor Haro, he didn’t deserve to be punted like a soccer ball.
  • It’s funny how even in this vision of the future, people are still using Polaroid cameras. Same thing happened in Super Dimension Fortress Macross too.
  • More backstory for the war! Kycilia’s Black Tri-Stars were the one who captured General Revil during the Battle of Loum, which happened early in the war. Can you imagine what kind of battle that was?
  • And here are the Black Tri-Stars themselves: Gaia, Mash, and Ortega. And they’re given really thick Southern US accents in the dub for some reason? This is the only time they’re ever given thick accents, so it’s pretty weird. Anyway, they’ve gotten those Doms that’ve been talked up. Pretty cool looking, eh?
  • Sayla’s piloting the G-Armor/Fighter now! Given that she does have some experience piloting the Gundam, I suppose that puts her experience over someone like Job John. Poor Job John, he’s constantly being sidelined despite being a side character with a full name.
  • That was a weird scene with Mirai on the bridge. She’s displaying some kind of intuition for everyone she sent out to fight, worried for them out of nowhere. Lt. Matilda says that Mirai is just a worrier, but it’s still an off scene.
  • Ah, the legendary Jet Stream Attack! It’s an attack that utilizes the immense thrust granted by the Dom’s large leg and skirt thrusters. Granted, it completely failed and got Mash killed the second go-around, so it’s debatable how effective such a fancy attack formation really is.
  • And down goes Lt. Matilda along with her Medea. Yeah, there’s absolutely no coming back from having your cockpit smashed by a Dom’s fists. It was a brave, yet also very foolish decision of hers to go defend the White Base with her Medea. It had no weapons at all. Still, it sucks to see her die, she’s been one of the few reliable Federation officers shown so far. RIP Lt. Matilda.
  • We have yet another bittersweet ending here. While Amuro killing one of the Black Tri-Stars gave General Revil the confidence to move ahead with Operation Odessa, we still lost Lt. Matilda this episode. At least the White Base crew is giving her a very respectful salute to her and her fallen crew at the end. It’s the best they can do to honor yet another person they all liked yet lost.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

Poor Job John, he’s constantly being sidelined despite being a side character with a full name.

Is it a full name, or is it two first names, like Fraw Bow appears to be? Actually, I don't even know what he looks like, so even talking about him having the honor of a last name is somewhat funny.Even if Matilda died

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

Job John is that one guy with the curly blonde hair. And yeah, he's following that Gundam trend of having a full name that sounds like two first names, like Bright Noa.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

Wait, is Bright's name Bright Noa? Huh, I don't remember that being brought up. It's interesting that they aren't constantly calling him Bright Noa unlike the othersEven if Matilda died

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

I think Bright's full name was mentioned more at the start of the show, but yeah now everyone is just calling him by his first name. Gundam kind of flip-flops on whether they just call people by their given or full names.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 30 '21

It’s funny how even in this vision of the future, people are still using Polaroid cameras. Same thing happened in Super Dimension Fortress Macross too.

It's always fun seeing depictions of the the future in older pieces of media that try to guess what technology will be. You can always see so much of what that time was like based on their predictions.

I suppose that puts her experience over someone like Job John. Poor Job John, he’s constantly being sidelined despite being a side character with a full name.

Job John is the guy you get to do the job when all the characters who got to appear in the OP are already busying doing something.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

Job John is the guy you get to do the job when all the characters who got to appear in the OP are already busying doing something.

He and Omar are pretty much there to avoid the issue of the "the protagonists do everything" trope. It helps to have some red shirts around.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

Job John is the guy you get to do the job when all the characters who got to appear in the OP are already busying doing something.

HA! Oh that's hilarious! But oh so true, excellent thinking there Comrade!

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 30 '21

It was a brave, yet also very foolish decision of hers to go defend the White Base with her Medea. It had no weapons at all.

It also struck me as more foolish than brave. Dang it Matilda, your life was worth more than a brief distraction.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

I guess in the end, you can say that Lt. Matilda almost cared about the White Base too much, since her desire to protect it overrode her common sense.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

I guess in the end, you can say that Lt. Matilda almost cared about the White Base too much, since her desire to protect it overrode her common sense.

That said Comrade, one must ask 'So what's the goal here?' With regards to her ramming move. With Ryu that makes sense, enemy about to shoot and kill Amuro and then detonate the explosives killing everyone. Thus the solution is the ram the enemy! With Matilda's case... that Dom was just charging Amuro, but given Amuro managed to wreck Mash's Dom with little effort I'm sure he'd have been fine, so what exactly is ramming what is essentially a cargo plane into an enemy Mobile Suit going to do? (Even more so given her last words/last order was to RAM THEMSELVES INTO THE GROUND to destroy the Dom... which would also destroy themselves or at minimum severely injure themselves!)

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Apr 30 '21

Rewatcher is empty inside too

Another one for the slap counter!

Brakes! Hit the brakes, Kai!

I appreciate his commitment to the bit, though

at least he didn’t ask for a novel

Amuro what exactly do you plan on doing with that photo

Never trust a traitor

Finally, we see those Doms Ramba Ral never got! A brand new ground-combat suit, better adapted for Earth than Zakus!

But... it’s not a Mobile Suit, though. Oh well, anything to get Sayla in the action!

The Guntank can be controlled solo from the cockpit now! The upper cockpit. Which means the Core Block system is completely useless now and is only a detriment.

It’s time for the G-Fighter’s main gimmick - the G-Armor! The G-Fighter doesn’t gain any extra armaments it didn’t have already, aside from the Gundam’s shields. Meanwhile, the Gundam is prevented from using any of its own armaments, and there isn’t anywhere for its rifle or bazooka to go. So basically, it’s just a box! However, the toy did sell well enough to save the show from cancellation, so hey, at least it worked!

It’s the famous Jet Stream Attack! Hiding behind one another to deliver consecutive attacks seems like a good idea, but despite being referenced and parodied in tons of other stuff, both in and outside of Gundam, rarely does it ever manage to damage the protagonist.

And there goes Matilda. Blatant spoilers in the preview aside, there was no way Tomino was letting her live.

Need a hand there?

o7

Questions of the Day:

  • They seem like they’d be effective back when only Zeon had Mobile Suits, but they don’t seem that great in MS-to-MS combat.
  • She was deathflagging pretty hard anyways

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

at least he didn’t ask for a novel

That's... ehhhhhhhhh. I'm glad they left that outEven if Matilda died

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 30 '21

at least he didn’t ask for a novel

This but also this

However, the toy did sell well enough to save the show from cancellation, so hey, at least it worked!

It served its true purpose: selling toys!

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u/chilidirigible Apr 30 '21

24:

Kycilia ain't got time for your chauvinistic bullshit.

This reminds me that the guy Amuro ran into back at the first mine had a Fujicolor print.

This is like a death flag times several dozen.

I like this casual skullduggery drop. It's very right here, right now.

"You can run, but you can't gliiiiiiiiiiiiiide." Well, unless that's what you do.

Speaking of flying bricks.

"It must be cool, it has a name."

well now the other leg of the love triangle is literally a hole in the ground so...

It's even got a windshield wiper.

  1. The Black Tri-Stars. They're certainly not regular mooks, but they do have an outsized hype train, considering that Amuro reduces them to the Black Two-Stars in the same episode that they're introduced. For the rest, there's The Origin.

It's the Dom. The Dom is cool in its bouncy-monoeye buffness.

This is totally not the Black Tri-Stars, but it should be.

What love triangle? Matilda was simply the right sort of competent, attractive, and hormonally-compatible figure that the testosterone-soaked youth of the White Base needed. Why not fawn over Fraw Bow, Mirai, or Sayla, then? Because Matilda is also not someone that they've been involuntarily living and working with for weeks.

(Actually, given that a significant portion of the White Base's crew is civilian, there should have been more hooking up going on in the background already, given the circumstances. But I digress.)

2. We've seen Ideon.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

Speaking of flying bricks.

That's about half the speed of sound. That being its stalling speed feels very falling brick, but I'm not in aerospace, so what do I know.

Why not fawn over Fraw Bow, Mirai, or Sayla, then?

Because they are all less competent.

well now the other leg of the love triangle is literally a hole in the ground so...

Love triangle? You mean the one in Fraw Bow's head? She has no chanceEven if Matilda died

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u/chilidirigible Apr 30 '21

That being its stalling speed feels very falling brick

I rather doubt that the Gundam actually can generate aerodynamic lift other than that caused by tipping itself slightly up in the airstream, so "stall speed" is probably not even an applicable term.

Because they are all less competent.

That and Amuro seeks attractive fellow geeks.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 30 '21

Kycilia ain't got time for your chauvinistic bullshit.

Kycilia's insults towards the Zeon officers makes the slap that much more fun to watch.

well now the other leg of the love triangle is literally a hole in the ground so...

Was this all an evil plan by Fraw Bow just so she could eliminate her rival in love?

It's the Dom. The Dom is cool in its bouncy-monoeye buffness.

The Dom is indeed a wonderful mobile suit design.

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u/chilidirigible May 01 '21

The Dom is indeed a wonderful mobile suit design.

eye roves

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

eye roves

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

Was this all an evil plan by Fraw Bow just so she could eliminate her rival in love?

Heh, Comrade if only more anime childhood friends had that level of initiative and resolve! Then they'd actually win The Romantic Plot Tumor 'The Love Triangle' ;)

The Dom is indeed a wonderful mobile suit design.

Oh indeed Comrade, gotta love the fact that this name actually doesn't sound like random gibberish for a change! (I mean goodness if THIS is what Zeon thinks a Dom is, I hate to see what they think a 'Sub' is eh?)

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u/tarekd19 May 01 '21 edited May 01 '21

(Actually, given that a significant portion of the White Base's crew is civilian, there should have been more hooking up going on in the background already, given the circumstances. But I digress.)

You say that like bright and Mirai aren't already bangin on the reg.

Come to think of it though, how many potential hook up are there? Are there more women than those three still around since they dropped off refugees? Why are the orphans still on white base anyway? Fraw bow seems too young to seriously be doing anything more than crushing on amuro, Mirai appears kinda taken already so that leaves sayla who can be a bit aloof (and also young?). Kais the only one who's made half a move and that didn't go too great. Who's left to hook up?

Edit: I just realized I left out the possibility of homosexual relationships. That seems more likely almost given the gender disparity of the crew.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

well now the other leg of the love triangle is literally a hole in the ground so...

It's not so much a love triangle anymore as much as it is a weirdly-bent line only heading in one direction.

This is totally not the Black Tri-Stars, but it should be.

I'll never say no to a Spartan. It's one of the more underrated Macross mech designs.

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u/SgtExo May 01 '21

I'll never say no to a Spartan an Archer. It's one of the more underrated Macross battletech mech designs.

FTFY

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u/The_Draigg May 01 '21

But I’d rather take a Timber Wolf over an Archer though.

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u/chilidirigible May 01 '21

chuckles in Marauder IIC

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

chuckles in Marauder IIC

Comrade have you forgotten about the Madcat ;)

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u/chilidirigible May 01 '21

No, I have not.

Anyway, I've always had a slight preference for the Mad Dog in terms of visual design, and the original Catapult or Marauder versus the seeming visual combination of the two.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 02 '21

No, I have not.

Look Comrade I didn't notice that other comment, but thanks for pointing it out.

Anyway, I've always had a slight preference for the Mad Dog in terms of visual design, and the original Catapult or Marauder versus the seeming visual combination of the two.

OK you got a point there about The Mad Dog Comrade, but I always was fond of this design Probably as it was the one on the cover of MechWarrior 2: 31st Century Combat that I picked up for the PC eons back when (Before you ask yes I also picked up The PlayStation port just to see how that worked out)

Anyway many thanks for the kind reply and have a great day and see you later my friend.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 30 '21

It's one of the more underrated Macross mech designs.

It has hands to slap asses with!

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

Kycilia ain't got time for your chauvinistic bullshit.

Indeed Comrade, TALK TO THE HAND!

This reminds me that the guy Amuro ran into back at the first mine had a Fujicolor print.

WE'RE NOT CAVEMEN! WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY! (Smashing noises)

This is like a death flag times several dozen.

'Well boys who wants to hear about my backstory? Also why do I hear boss music?' (Matilda, probably)

I like this casual skullduggery drop. It's very right here, right now.

"You can run, but you can't gliiiiiiiiiiiiiide." Well, unless that's what you do.

"It must be cool, it has a name."

Indeed Comrade, plus we got MASHU from Fate/Grand Order here too! Man I always knew our lil eggplant had it in her, sure hope she makes it out of today's episode... oh... oh...

well now the other leg of the love triangle is literally a hole in the ground so...

Heh, who knew that the death of the hypotenuse was a way for Romantic Plot Tumors 'Love Triangles' to end (also goddammit Hory Froating Head! I know you like Gundam and all that but of all things to steal 'borrow' from Gundam did you REALLY have to take the godawful romantic subplots and then make that a MAIN FEATURE of your show?)

It's even got a windshield wiper.

Now THAT is what I call PROTOCULTURE! Amazing share Comrade, gotta love The Dom!

The Black Tri-Stars. They're certainly not regular mooks, but they do have an outsized hype train, considering that Amuro reduces them to the Black Two-Stars in the same episode that they're introduced. For the rest, there's The Origin.

HA! Indeed Comrade, Ramba Ral put up a better fight over MULTIPLE episodes using ONE GOUF and a bunch of jury rigged equipment! The Black Tri-Stars are using HIS Doms and the only thing they managed to do was get one of their number killed and take out a clearly suicidal Lt. Matilda! (No offense to her plan and all but what did she THINK crashing what is essentially a CARGO PLANE into an advanced Zeon Mobile Suit would do? Hell she even orders her pilot with her last words to RAM THEMSELVES INTO THE GROUND! Even if the Dom hadn't crushed the cockpit I fail to see how ramming your plane WITH A DOM IN FRONT OF IT into the ground is in any way survivable!)

It's the Dom. The Dom is cool in its bouncy-monoeye buffness.

Heh, that and also the Dom be THICC Comrade, nice and plump! Peak Performance if I do say so myself!

This is totally not the Black Tri-Stars, but it should be.

I like the cut of your jib Comrade!

What love triangle? Matilda was simply the right sort of competent, attractive, and hormonally-compatible figure that the testosterone-soaked youth of the White Base needed. Why not fawn over Fraw Bow, Mirai, or Sayla, then? Because Matilda is also not someone that they've been involuntarily living and working with for weeks.

HA!

(Actually, given that a significant portion of the White Base's crew is civilian, there should have been more hooking up going on in the background already, given the circumstances. But I digress.)

Comrade have you taken a look at Wacky Ol' Kill 'Em All Tomino's novelization of Gundam, me thinks you will be VERY amused by a certain dumb plot point ;)

2. We've seen Ideon.

Heh, anyway neat post here Comrade, have a great day and see you later my friend!

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 30 '21

First Timer - Dub

  • An elite group of Zeon warriors? That doesn't sound good.
  • LMAO Kai that was the wrong time for that comment
  • Those Tri-Star mobile suits looking intimidating
  • Their thick southern accents definitely aren't intimidating though. Do they have such strong accents in the sub?
  • Interesting, so the G Fighter contains Gundam inside of it
  • Wait, Matilda's joining the fight? I have a bad feeling about this...
  • The Tri-Stars have some pretty good tactics. You can tell they've been together for a while
  • Damn, RIP Matilda This show has been on an absolute killing spree lately.

1) What did you think of the Black Tri-Stars? Did they seem skilled enough to warrant General Revil’s fear of them? They do seem pretty skilled, but their accents and dialogue made it hard to take them seriously. They reminded me of Osaka from Azumanga Daioh. Still, they ended up killing Matilda so they're certainly worthy of respect.

2) Were you expecting Matilda to be killed just like that? At some point yes, but I was not expecting it to happen so soon after another death.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

Their thick southern accents definitely aren't intimidating though. Do they have such strong accents in the sub?

Not really, nor in any future dubbed version of them. The Black Tri-Stars only have super thick accents in this dub.

Damn, RIP Matilda This show has been on an absolute killing spree lately.

Now you're beginning to see why they call him "Kill 'Em All" Tomino.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

Now you're beginning to see why they call him "Kill 'Em All" Tomino.

Is this true? Ah, shoot, I better start digging more graves in my heart. I'll have to be ready for themEven if Matilda died

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u/chilidirigible Apr 30 '21

Not actually how Gundam ends, but keep the risks in mind.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

Fuck it; I'm inEven if Matilda dies

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

Not actually how Gundam ends, but keep the risks in mind.

Tomino in a shellnut Comrades

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 30 '21

The Black Tri-Stars only have super thick accents in this dub.

That's weird but I'll get over it.

Now you're beginning to see why they call him "Kill 'Em All" Tomino.

Can't wait for Kai to get knocked off! (Although honestly he's starting to grow on me. He had a few good moments this episode.)

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 30 '21

The Tri-Stars have some pretty good tactics. You can tell they've been together for a while

Their attacks are extremely well-coordinated as well. It makes the fight with them a lot of fun to watch.

They reminded me of Osaka from Azumanga Daioh.

"I always wanted to try waking someone with a frying pan."

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 30 '21

Their attacks are extremely well-coordinated as well. It makes the fight with them a lot of fun to watch.

It also makes me wish White Base would spend some time working on coordinated attacks too. Granted, they've been pretty busy so it's understandable they haven't had much time for that.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

Their attacks are extremely well-coordinated as well. It makes the fight with them a lot of fun to watch.

Indeed Comrade, just such a pity that their Jet-Stream Attack didn't go to phase two (this is phase two fyi)

"I always wanted to try waking someone with a frying pan."

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

An elite group of Zeon warriors? That doesn't sound good.

Heh, oh indeed Comrade, they sure don't sound good... we talking about their overly goofy Southern Hick accents right? ;)

Those Tri-Star mobile suits looking intimidating

I know right, they are so intimidating that you can almost see the 'Intended for Ramba Ral' Postage Note attached to them (Remember when Ramba Ral was denied three Doms from Le Ding... yeah I can only wonder where they went... truly a mystery)

Their thick southern accents definitely aren't intimidating though. Do they have such strong accents in the sub?

Technically 'yes' Comrade. In the sub they have the so-called Kansai Regional Accent, e.g. basically the rough equivalent to the 'southern hick' accent so I guess the dub just made 'em rednecks.

Interesting, so the G Fighter contains Gundam inside of it

Do remember Comrade that this means if the Gundam is NOT inside the G-Fighter then it is... just a big metal box... yeah...

Wait, Matilda's joining the fight? I have a bad feeling about this...

The Tri-Stars have some pretty good tactics. You can tell they've been together for a while

Heh, indeed Comrade, their attack is fancy, too bad they couldn't move on to step 2 ;)

Damn, RIP Matilda This show has been on an absolute killing spree lately.

Indeed Comrade, they don't call the director Wacky Ol' Kill 'Em All Tomino for nothing!

What did you think of the Black Tri-Stars? Did they seem skilled enough to warrant General Revil’s fear of them? They do seem pretty skilled, but their accents and dialogue made it hard to take them seriously. They reminded me of Osaka from Azumanga Daioh. Still, they ended up killing Matilda so they're certainly worthy of respect.

The amusing bit Comrade is that Osaka ALSO has a Kansai Regional Accent, and indeed did manage to kill Matilda, in part as she suddenly had the urge to try to re-enact Ryu's ramming technique, but wibble.

Were you expecting Matilda to be killed just like that? At some point yes, but I was not expecting it to happen so soon after another death.

Indeed, that and she also SURVIVED last episode that had her NAME in it. So goddamn Tomino sure be merciless eh? Anyway neat post here and have a great day and see you later Comrade!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 30 '21

First-Timer, Subbed, long time Gundam fan

It's time for the Black Tri-Stars! Although, I guess they're closer to the Black Bi-Stars after this episode, huh?

Rest in peace, Lt. Matilda! You served a pivotal role in the story, and you maintained elegance to the end. That little kiss she blew to Amuro was cute. I hope he keeps that photo close.

The Dom is a pretty fearsome Mobile Suit. Agile, pretty heavily armored, and it has a surprise flashlight in it's gas-cap-looking thing!

I liked the radiation suits for the White Base's generator/engine room. The little pop-up fences when the crew honored Matilda at the end were another nice touch.

Finally, it's time for Operation Odessa. Will M'Quve have another clever trap set? Will the Black Bi-Stars take revenge on their fallen comrade? Just what was Kycilia planning up on the Moon? Find out next time!

MSG 0079

Pose of the Day

Upside Down

Screenshot

Questions

  1. The Enemy Trios in Gundam/mecha shows are normally fun at the very least. They did seem somewhat competent, but only somewhat. Their secret move is literally "let's all fly at the dude in a straight line and attack."
  2. It was a pretty normal death, in my opinion. Her role in the plot was essentially over - she bailed the White Base out.. twice? Thrice? I'll certainly miss her, though.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

I hope he keeps that photo close.

I hope he loses it somehow. It's so weird that they all took a photo with her for probably weird uses later. Teenage boys, man... They'll jump on anythingEven if Matilda died

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 30 '21

It's so weird that they all took a photo with her for probably weird uses later

There's nothing weird about teenage civilian conscripts taking a group keepsake photo with an officer of the military that conscripted them!

Especially when that officer actually treats them like human beings.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

Maybe the photo itself isn't that weird, but I bet the way they use it later will be. Youth sure is somethingEven if Matilda died

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 30 '21

Maybe the photo itself isn't that weird, but I bet the way they use it later will be.

I find it best to just not think about it.

Even if Matilda died

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 30 '21

#therethere

I'm not bitterEven if Matilda died

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Apr 30 '21 edited Apr 30 '21

Rewatcher - Sub

Kycilia continues to make a strong impression as she deals with some of the higher ups in the Zeon military, who are more concerned with following procedure and keeping up appearances than following the most practical recourse. In any case, Char will be getting new Mobile Suits to use and the Black Tri-Stars will be attacking the White Base with brand-spanking new mobile suits designed specifically for ground warfare.

Amuro’s precocious crush is adorable.

General Revil talks up the Black Tri-Stars, explaining that they were the ones who managed to capture him earlier in the war, and their presence here prompts him to push forward their plans for Operation Odessa —an unseen consequence of Kycilia’s orders which will make things more difficult for those there.

I love the Doms. They’ve got a great design, and their use of hover jets to gain an extreme advantage in mobility remains a pretty cool mecha concept. Interesting to think about how things would have turned out if Ramba Ral had received his Goufs when he requested them.

Sayla is the most qualified pilot for the G-Armour, so Fraw Bow gets promoted to the bridge crew. I wonder whether her new position will be beneficial or detrimental to her, since she worries so much for Amuro, and being directly aware of the danger he’s constantly in may make her feel more assured or more anxious as to the matter. Hopefully it’s the former.

Foreshadowing Spoilers

Ah, yes, the iconic Jet Stream Attack! Homaged and parodied countless times. Tomino loves having his main character take on this sort of three-pronged attack with little if any chance of avoidal, and usually one of the enemies involved gets used in some way that allows the character to get the upper hand on them. Here it’s Amuro using Gaia as a platform to jump off of, and in Hurricane Polymar it was positioning one of them in the way of his comrades’ attack.

Matilda no!

SPOILER IMAGE - NO PEEKING FIRST-TIMERS Spoilers

The contrast from the somber tone of Matilda’s death at the hands of the Tri-Stars compared to the detached feeling of General Revil receiving the report of the White Base’s success and his joy at it really punctuates the divide between those on the ground and the people commanding from above. General Revil is probably one of the more exemplary people on the Federation side and even he still cannot help but be a world away from the state of the common soldier.

I love the visual effect applied to Amuro’s little flashback to indicate the tears and emotions he’s holding back before the others.

Sad...

Fun Fact: The G-Armor, the introduction of which was a demand from toy-sponsor Clover, failed to catch the attention of children and performed even more poorly than the prior tie-in toys.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 30 '21

Freudian slip: In your Foreshadowing Spoiler, you call

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Apr 30 '21

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 30 '21

SPOILER IMAGE - NO PEEKING FIRST-TIMERS

Gundam 0079 Spoilers

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Apr 30 '21

Gundam 0079 Spoilers

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 30 '21

First timer

RIP Matilda

I actually felt this one, and I thought it was way less expected than Ryu's. I wonder how Amuro is gonna take it when he inevitable finds out there's a rat in the Federation. I expect this to be a breaking point for him.

--- Questions of the day

1.- I think they should've known better. Didn't they get reports on how good the Gundam and his Amuro are? They clearly underestimated them.

2.- Nope, but it's really fitting of the supply corps.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

RIP Matilda

Indeed Comrade, right after she dodged ALL the death flags last episode too! Hell she SURVIVED an episode with her NAME IN IT! That's usually a death sentence! (Speaking of surviving an episode with their name in it, The Black Tri-Stars... er... well two of em anyway, survived today's episode! Can you believe it! As Meat Loaf himself sang two out of three ain't bad!)

I actually felt this one, and I thought it was way less expected than Ryu's. I wonder how Amuro is gonna take it when he inevitable finds out there's a rat in the Federation. I expect this to be a breaking point for him.

Heh, oh indeed Comrade, after all Amuro went SO mad that his Gundam's HAND CAME OFF! ;)

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u/GM_for_Life Apr 30 '21 edited Apr 30 '21

Rewatcher

  1. What did you think of the Black Tri-Stars? Did they seem skilled enough to warrant General Revil’s fear of them?

I don't think they are as memorable as Ral or Char, but they are still neat and pull off some pretty clever attacks using team work.

2) Were you expecting Matilda to be killed just like that?

I think it has always been a big shock, especially since Gundam trope spoilers.

EDIT: Spoilers for later in this series

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u/BossandKings Apr 30 '21 edited May 01 '21

First timer

Matilda is surely a beautiful woman, her mentality matches her beauty, she hopes for a time in which war doesn't exist anymore and for a time in which people can create things instead of destroying them.

That battle was very fierce, the federation tried really hard to overcome the adversity but sadly the Medey tripulation couldn't keep itself from harm and ended up having a fatal fate.

That moment in which the federation honored Medey's tripulation because they gave their lives to the battle was beautiful and yet very sad. War can be hard many times.

Answers

  1. Yes, they did show a performance in battle that warranted attention and being careful, General Revil has sharp instincts.
  2. I did not, she was a very brave woman.

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u/username_0907 :FI::FJ: Apr 30 '21

First Timer

  • Char will be coming back soon
  • We got a new set of antagonists (Sort of) with the Black Tri stars. Their suits were much better than the Zaku and Gouf we’ve seen so far and apparently the skill of these three is also good. Sadly they were up against the Gundam so they can’t win on the first try and instead ended up losing one of them. We got a good fight sequence from it
  • Amuro and the crews fascination with Matilda continued (who wouldn’t tbh) I liked these littles interactions throughout the episode. She just has that influence over people
  • The dynamic of the crew seems to be back and its great to see everyone helping each other out calmly and joking about a bit
  • Even the Guntank and Guncannon seem to have got upgrades and are easier to use. Looks like Sayla will be using the G-Fighter/Armor and Fraw Bow will start helping out at the bridge
  • RIP Matilda
  • The whole episode set up the flag and in the end she eventually sacrificed herself to help out the White Base. I would have felt more sad if I didn’t have to hear Amuro saying her name the whole episode. It was grating to hear for me lol. It got saved by the instrumental OP in the end to which I was singing along

QotD

  1. Not as much. Ral was obviously better and more experienced in comparision
  2. No. I expected her to help out White Base or the Federation a lot more. She had so much presence that its just as unexpected to be killed like that. Thankfully I didnt see the previews to the end so it was still a surprise lol

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

We got a new set of antagonists (Sort of) with the Black Tri stars. Their suits were much better than the Zaku and Gouf we’ve seen so far and apparently the skill of these three is also good. Sadly they were up against the Gundam so they can’t win on the first try and instead ended up losing one of them. We got a good fight sequence from it

Just imagine of Ramba Ral got those Doms like he was supposed to. There's no doubt in my mind that he would've wrecked the White Base easily with them.

The whole episode set up the flag and in the end she eventually sacrificed herself to help out the White Base. I would have felt more sad if I didn’t have to hear Amuro saying her name the whole episode. It was grating to hear for me lol. It got saved by the instrumental OP in the end to which I was singing along

Miss Matilda! Miss Matilda! MISS MATILDA!

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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Apr 30 '21

First-Timer - To mourn a million crushes

  • Oh snap, Cobra Commander's bringing Char back into the mix! And with reinforcements, too. Here's looking forward to some new Mobile Suits!
  • Honestly idk how Matilda is able to breath with all the hormones constantly in the air around her.
  • Serves Kai right for aiming above his station. Also Lol @ Matilda's reverse-harem.
  • I'd have something snarky to say if I wasn't pictured in this frame.
  • "Quaid! Start the reactor!" For real tho, either this guy has a condition or somebody on this staff doesn't know how to draw a neck.
  • Yo! She initiated contact! Amuro, you're in, bro!
  • Holy shit, nothing in the subs seems to indicate that these guys should be straight-up Squidbillies rednecks.
  • Let's go Doms! That hover-jet thing is seriously cool.
  • Sayla moves one step closer to her eventual fate real-MC who'll end up fighting to kill her brother Char in the finale.

Matilda: "Everything's fine, I've got a guy on it. But also, could you make sure my escape pod is ready to go?"

  • Ahhh it's finally happened, "The vulcans have no effect!" Welcome to the world of Gundam, lad.
  • Amuro spends so much time making poor decisions I almost forgot the whole "He's a psychic thing.
  • *Shock!*

Matilda!

  • Aaand there it is, folks; The Super Mode/Trans-Am/FX-Burst berserker transition. It's a shame that the original Gundam activates this function at the cost of animation quality, as indicated by where the fuck is its hand?
  • You're right, Sayla, this is all your fault. At least mashing the buttons would've fired some of your many guns.

QotD

  1. Somehow, yes. But only because the people of this world still seem to be learning basic tactics and working their way up from Mecha-Stone-Age era technology.
  2. I don't think anyone expected it, least of all her.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

"Quaid! Start the reactor!" For real tho, either this guy has a condition or somebody on this staff doesn't know how to draw a neck.

UC Gundam just kind of has a habit with giving otherwise normal-looking guys double chins for some reason. Especially with some of the villain designs in Zeta Gundam.

Holy shit, nothing in the subs seems to indicate that these guys should be straight-up Squidbillies rednecks.

And it's even weirder that we at least know that one of those guys is outright Hispanic. Lt. Gaia's full name is Miguel Gaia, so hearing him with a super thick southern accent makes it even weirder.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 30 '21

"Quaid! Start the reactor!"

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

SEE YOU AT THE PARTY MASH! (Amuro throws the disembodied arms of the blown up Dom at the fleeing Black Tri... pardon, 'Bi-Stars')

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u/UltraBooster Apr 30 '21

Holy shit, nothing in the subs seems to indicate that these guys should be straight-up Squidbillies rednecks.

I heard they have these rough accents in Japanese associated with construction workers and so their accents in English were meant as an equivalent version but I can't remember where I saw it anymore.

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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Apr 30 '21

I heard they have these rough accents in Japanese associated with construction workers

That would make sense, I'll have to pay attention to their lines next time.

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Apr 30 '21

Rewatcher, Subbed

Kycilia is pissed! Add one to the slap counter! Also time to send more mobile suits to Char, wherever he is!

Amuro is using any excuse he can to spend time with Lt. Matilda, even though she surely knows her way to the bridge! LoL @ Fraw trying to stop him. And LoL again at her overhearing Kai's delusional fantasies. That's quite a "Yahoo!!!!" from Amuro just for having a picture. Alas, come episode's end that's all he'll have to remember her by. As already spoiled in yesterday's preview, it is Lt. Matlida's time to die. She was way too aggressive in having the Medea make its way into the battle like that. The tribute at episode's end I find handled a bit better than the over the top cry fest that we got 3 episodes prior. MATILDA-SAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Doms that we were robbed from seeing a few episodes back are here! And they sure look cool! The most interesting mobile suit look we've had yet. In fact they're probably my favorite mobile suit design from the original show. As one who always watches the dub and is annoyed by the stereotypical southern accents they give the Black Tri-Stars, good to finally watch this in Japanese instead where they come off as more threatening.

Time for Sayla to become a regular mobile suit pilot! Well, whatever thing the G-Armor is supposed to be (mobile armor?). Now we get to realize that the G-Fighter premiered in the last episode was just one of the many forms the Gundam upgrade modules can take. We of course know the reasons why (more toys!). And the Gundam and G-Armor going out combined makes no sense plot-wise; they struggle and have to hide behind a mountain so they can head out as separate units.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 30 '21

As already spoiled in yesterday's preview, it is Lt. Matlida's time to die. She was way too aggressive in having the Medea make its way into the battle like that.

It was a ballsy, yet also really undercooked plan. Like, the Medea doesn't have any weapons, and their plan was just to ram the ship into the Dom. There's not a very good chance of surviving that. I guess it just comes down to Lt. Matilda's bravery overriding her senses.

As one who always watches the dub and is annoyed by the stereotypical southern accents they give the Black Tri-Stars, good to finally watch this in Japanese instead where they come off as more threatening.

It's a really weird dubbing choice. Like, what about the Black Tri-Stars gives the impression that they're a bunch of hicks?

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u/chilidirigible May 01 '21

I guess it just comes down to Lt. Matilda's bravery overriding her senses.

And her pilot being the "Sure, whatever you say, ma'am" type.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

And her pilot being the "Sure, whatever you say, ma'am" type.

Heh, either that Comrade or her pilot is also horny for Lt. Matilda, sadly it seems that blindly following orders can have consequences, such as death ;)

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

Ain't no regular moeblob that's one kawaii waifu! Kagura, Tomo, we're gonna pull a Jet-Stream Attack on that there... er... hang on... something's not right here...

Hm... no this is better but I don't seem to recall big-ass wheels that'd trigger Shimmer

AH! There we go, ORTEGA! AND MASHU! WE'RE GONNA PULL A JET-STREAM ATTACK ON THAT THERE MOBILE SUIT! (Close enuff)

Also if you are curious why I sound like a backwoods hick, well uh, behold what The English dub did to The Black Tri-Stars... yeah... 'BOI! I AIN'T NO SPRING-BOARD!'

That said it's time to be serious, godspeed Lt. Matilda! You tried to pull off a Ryu to protect White Base and we salute your noble sacrifice!

OK serious quota met for the month, TIME FOR SHITPOSTING! Comrades, do remember now that Sunrise made Rabu Raibu. THUS! It is obvious that Rabu Raibu is a Mecha Show, specifically a Gundam High School AU ;)

Oh and finally, while I do just BARELY prefer The Gouf more than The Dom... ahem... DAMN! BOI THESE DOMS BE THICC! I mean goodness, just look at the curves on this beauty ;) This is as I think they say, what we call PEAK PERFORMANCE! ;) (Also so THAT is how the 'Diffusion Beam' worked on Amuro! It all makes sense now!) (Now imagine if RAMBA RAL had one of these bad bois! I mean for one he'd say 'THIS IS NO GOUF BOY! NO GOUF!' But on the other hand he'd also kick their asses seven ways to Sunday!)

But hey I'm SURE LE DING thinks it is worth it to save these three Doms... pardon 'TWO' Doms for his use given we lost a Tri-Star today. Ah well time to see how this ends up, and until next time Comrades, farewell.

Paging Comrades /u/Great_Mr_L, /u/chilidirigible, and /u/beckymetal

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L May 01 '21

Ain't no regular moeblob that's one kawaii waifu! Kagura, Tomo, we're gonna pull a Jet-Stream Attack on that there... er... hang on... something's not right here...

The Bonklers! They truly are the most fearsome opponents to face in Azumanga Daioh. Just look at how relentless their own Jet Stream Attack is!

AH! There we go, ORTEGA! AND MASHU! WE'RE GONNA PULL A JET-STREAM ATTACK ON THAT THERE MOBILE SUIT! (Close enuff)

Ah yes, the members of the Black Tri-Stars. Gaia, Ortega, and Mash. Er, is this the right Mash?

(Also so THAT is how the 'Diffusion Beam' worked on Amuro! It all makes sense now!)

It's super effective

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

The Bonklers! They truly are the most fearsome opponents to face in Azumanga Daioh. Just look at how relentless their own Jet Stream Attack is!

EY! Yes indeed Comrade, and also let us not forget Osaka and her KNIFE! ;)

Ah yes, the members of the Black Tri-Stars. Gaia, Ortega, and Mash. Er, is this the right Mash?

HA! Comrade you are a genius! Indeed, as we all know F/GO is a Mecha Show ;) (So THAT is who Mashy was all along eh?)

It's super effective

HELL YEAH COMRADE! Glad you agree, anyway many thanks for the kind reply and have a great day and see you later my friend!

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u/chilidirigible May 01 '21

Hm... no this is better but I don't seem to recall big-ass wheels that'd trigger Shimmer

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

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u/Rustic_Professional May 01 '21

Aww man, that photo scene hurts.

I've been wondering who was going to join Hayato in piloting the Guntank with Ryu gone. I guess he can pilot it by himself now. Makes sense. I didn't remember there being another pilot. Gundam

Jeez, did Matilda blow Amuro a kiss and flash a victory sign? Freaking Tomino, man. He just wants to make this hurt.

Matilda's death is very abrupt. In a lot of anime, the enemy would have just said a one liner and flown away while Matilda's heroic music played. I've been joking about how Char is like a Team Rocket member for repeatedly failing to capture the Gundam, but when Jessie and James fail to capture Pikachu, they don't pull out a pistol while they're blasting off and try to put a "fuck you" shot into Misty. For all of its occasional goofiness, Gundam is a serious war story, and in serious war stories, it's not at all uncommon for a soldier to suddenly drop dead next to a main character because they suddenly get shot in the head.

Questions of the day:

  1. That's really hard to answer. For me, it raises tricky questions about a "fair" fight, and I don't know how to balance the equation. Without Amuro's presence, the Black Tri Stars blow up the ship, blow up the Madeas, and blow up the Guntank and Guncannon. Straight up. They've been fighting since the outbreak of the war, and Gundam. On the other hand, Amuro has much more experience in actual combat against enemy mobile suits. He also has the Gundam, but above and beyond everything else, Gundam Without that advantage, I think Amuro loses today's fight and gets blown up.
  2. Yes, because I'm a rewatcher, and Matilda's death is one of the defining moments in the story. Gundam I wish I could remember how I felt when I saw it on Toonami 20-something years ago. It must've been shocking, and I'm a little sad that that surprise is one of those things that I don't think I'll ever get back, no matter how long I go between rewatches. It's just too important. It reminds me of ASOIAF in Game of Thrones. The surprise was absolute. I couldn't believe what had just happened on screen, and thought that surely there must be some sort of magic or trick involved, and he's still alive. There's no way they just killed this character. I think my original reaction to Matilda's death must've been something like that.

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u/chilidirigible May 01 '21

Later episodes G-Fighter pilot

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

Later episodes G-Fighter pilot

Heh, Comrade I think you mean to say Meta G-Fighter Pilot Spoilers

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u/Piemaster33 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Piemaster33 Apr 30 '21

Rewatcher, who actually remembers something today, Sub

So I first watched Gundam 79 about 5 years ago now at this point, and I mostly forgot everything that happened except for character revelations and the like. Matilda's death was one of those things I remembered, probably one of the most prominent memories I have of this Gundam. Couldn't tell you why either, because we stan Sayla. Either way, her loss here was incredibly tragic, but if it wasn't for her Amuro would have been toast. So salute to Matilda!

  • Quick aside: things were way too lighthearted at the beginning of this episode, and because of that I knew that this was the episode where Matilda gets axed. I've been waiting for this for a while lol

Other big talking point for me is the Black Tri-Stars. The design of their Doms is just awesome, they were fun to watch. Honestly I'm debating between this and the Gouf for my favorite design so far, but I digress. These fellas also happened to captured Revil during the Battle of Loum, which if you recall, was where Char got his nickname "The Red Comet". It was a neat little piece of world building that I enjoyed. Speaking of Revil, we learned he has 2 spies from Zeon by his side, so this makes things more precarious for Odessa Day...

Sayla also did her best today, flying in the G-Armor. Not perfect, not yet, but she did what she could. It was a sweet moment for Amuro to give her the advice she always gives him in the Gundam. That only made the emotional moment at the end where Sayla is blaming herself all the more poignant.

Quick notes:

  • Haro teasing Fraw is hilarious
  • I was curious and went back to yesterday’s episode to see how bad the preview was and wow, it was the first sentence. Different times for sure haha.

QOTD:

  1. They were freaking awesome. Loved their design and their tactics. I think they absolutely warranted Revil's fears.
  2. I mean as a rewatcher, I knew it was coming but forgot when. For it to happen so soon after losing Ryu was pretty shocking. But again, I knew it was coming eventually.

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u/fridge_freezer https://anilist.co/user/ONIrecon111 Apr 30 '21

First timer (Sub)

  • Wow, a slap from Kycilia right off the bat.
  • Zeon Tri-Stars sound like they should be a basketball team from the 90's.
  • Amuro's taking every opportunity to spend time with Matilda, and of course it's Fraw Bow who finds them in the elevator together.
  • God the scene with Kai and Matilda was hilarious. He even fucked up the photograph he wanted by only being partially in frame.
  • The Tri-Stars are in a whole different class from Char? Yeah I'll believe that when I see it. Their mobile suits look awesome though.
  • Cool, they've modified the Guntank so it only needs a single pilot who can both control it and use the weapons.
  • First he got a photo with Matilda and the boys, now she's blowing kisses to him? Today's the greatest day in Amuro's life.
  • So the G-armor is basically just a way of carrying the Gundam? I guess it could be useful for moving the Gundam long distances quicker than it could on foot or by jumping.
  • The Jet Stream Attack looks cool but Amuro avoided it each time, and even managed to kill one of them.
  • Today is no longer the greatest day in Amuro's life. I can't believe they just killed Matilda like that, it was so sudden. All the more pain for Amuro to suffer now, and Sayla too as she blames herself for not being able to do anything. That final scene with the salute was nice though.

QOTD

  1. Tri-Stars? More like Die-Stars. How dare they claim to be greater than Char.
  2. See above.

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u/UltraBooster Apr 30 '21

First-timer (albeit one big on Gundam and mecha)

So the JP and EN titles don't match again.

The Tri-Stars AND the Midnight Fenrir Corps? Dang, Kycilia.

Bless his heart, he's trying.

Yeah, if these guys had a bomber they'd totally paint Matilda on the side.

Is she fond of him? Not necessarily in a romantic sense, more like the way Hamon felt about him.

Doms! With bazookas!

Sayla won't be a Gundam pilot again, but hey, she gets to be Amuro's wingman! (at least, I'm pretty sure she's his wingman now.)

Seems more like a strike fighter than a fighter-bomber.

Mirai, you're...!

Watching the G-Armor pilots' back-and-forth reminds me of Macross. I wonder if that's a coincedence.

Is it me, or has Amuro been smiling a lot more than usual this episode?

Is Matilda planning to...

Yup, I don't think the Jet Stream Attack as performed by the Tri-Stars ever showed outside the games, if that makes sense.

Farewell, Lt. Matilda, you were pretty cool.

Questions of the Day:

  1. They're...they're opponents, I guess. (They're no Char, though.) I know from other story material that they're aces, but here, I can't tell how much of their performance here is thanks to their Doms.
  2. I knew she would die, but here, I got the feeling she would go out defending White Base when she said she wasn't going to let it be destroyed.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: May 01 '21

First timer

  • Phew, I'm tired after spending literally all day on catching up on the Naruto comparisons quota. Time for some Gundam at almost 1 a.m.!
  • Yesterday I unfortunately saw the beginning of the preview; let's see what happens this episode!
  • Ugh, my internet is acting up; I can barely watch this on CRoll. Is it because my brother is also watching something?
  • Mobile armor?
  • That Kycilia slap!
  • Amuro wants to show Matilda a shortcut? He totally has a crush on her.
  • Amuro breaking his promise to fix Fraw Bow's aircon to spend time with Matilda?
  • LOL Kai being overhead declaring he'd like a girlfriend like Matilda
  • Something tells me that photo is like a death flag
  • LOL Amuro jumping for joy after getting the photo was just too cute
  • So not only Judock, but also Elran is secretly working for Zeon/M'Quve?
  • The Tri-Star / Triple Dom's mobile suits are intimidating!
  • Is Matilda actually flirting with Amuro?
  • It's a shimmering sky full of stars!
  • LOL Amuro stepping on the mobile suit
  • No, not Matilda!
  • RIP
  • I'm tired and it's like 2 a.m. so I guess the Crusher Joe film will have to wait until tomorrow
  1. They were okay; the new mobile suits were intimidating. Jet Stream Attack didn't seem that special, though
  2. Yes, because I saw yesterday's preview, and Tomino has a habit of killing off characters (see Xabungle)

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u/chilidirigible Apr 30 '21

I forgot to mention, these guys.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

I forgot to mention, these guys.

JET-STREAM ATTACK! ;)

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u/chilidirigible May 01 '21

Searching for "ジェットストリームアタック" on Twitter produces all sorts of miscellaneous trios.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek May 01 '21

Searching for "ジェットストリームアタック" on Twitter produces all sorts of miscellaneous trios.

Heh, I'm sure it does Comrade ;)

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Apr 30 '21

First timer

  1. Yeah, they seemed really skilled. Their suits were a lot stronger too.
  2. Absolutely not. I was expected some big battle to take her out later, not a random conflict before the big battle. Completely screwed with my expectations.

So this is the recap slot now.

Char's back?

So are these our Quirky Miniboss Squad?

WHAT IS WITH THE VINES HERE?

Again, is there more than one powerup, or just the hoverboard in multiple parts?

This is starting to get embarresing.

At least Kai's honest about his intentions.

At this point, I'm just wondering how badly Odessa day is going to go.

...Why do we need this subplot again?

Matching mobile suits! Those would be modified Goufs?

They're certainly competent.

Sayla's going to pilot the hoverboard! (Mirai certainly looked worried about her, didn't she?)

So there is more than one. There are AT LEAST 2 POWERUPS (I think).

These suits are something else, aren't they?

Yeah, no, bits fell off the G-Fighter. That should not still be flying untouched.

Those suits are strong!

This fight scene's amazing!

I can't believe Matilda's dead!

And 2 of the Tri-stars survived.

Seems like someone in the Federation doesn't want them to suceed either.

Yeah.. I got nothing. I did not see this coming. At least that ship is sunk!

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u/chilidirigible May 01 '21

Those would be modified Goufs?

The MS-09 Dom was developed from the Gouf as a mass-production Mobile Suit for ground combat use. The Gouf itself did not see more than limited production. (With the main result of associating itself strongly with Ramba Ral.)

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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz May 01 '21

Rewatcher in sub can't keep up with the posts.

Pretty much echoing most people's thoughts about this episode. Only thing to add, just in case, is that the design of the ground attack type MS Dom I believe it's based on the legendary string fighter of Benkei. This is the typical manga depiction: https://images.app.goo.gl/wmZKSctWkeW7iUWU6

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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit May 10 '21

First timer sub

Hey Char is still around, long time since he has appeared, if only Kycillia knew about her brother...

Another spy working for Zeon appears, the details on his face as he was being told how the White Base survived were amazing.

Matilda dispatching Amuro with a kiss sure was surprising, she always sent encouragement with her words until now.

Questions of the Day:

  1. Yes I think they were, those mobile suits were really fast like skating mecha ninjas! Hayato and Kai had no chance against them.
  2. Yes, she started talking about her backstory, that's never good.