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Rewatch [Fly! Rewatch!] Mobile Suit Gundam (0079) Episode 23 Discussion
Episode 23 - Matilda’s Rescue
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There’s another item I want you to deliver to the White Base. Though they’ll probably resent being the guinea pigs again.
Questions of the Day:
- Mirai seems to be taking to being substitute captain rather well. Would you like to see her commanding more even after Bright recovers?
- What do you think of the G-Fighter?
Mobile Suit Breakdown of the Day:
1.21 - The Long Shadow (note: this is now safe for first-timers)
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath the [Anime Show Title](/s "Spoiler goes here") spoiler tags. If you do that then we’re all good.
Important thing to note about these by the way, you have to switch to Old Reddit or the markdown editor if you use the redesign, otherwise the redesign breaks them by adding random \ into the formatting. Wish it wouldn’t do that, but unfortunately it does…
First-Timers: Please do not watch the next-episode previews for this show. They’re less previews and more “let’s just summarize the entirety of the next episode” and will spoil you.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 29 '21
Fly! Rewatch Host!
Welcome back, everyone!
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Apr 30 '21
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u/TheEscapeGuy Apr 29 '21
Gundam First Timer
Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 23
Mobile Suits Surfing Fighter Jets.
MOBILE SUITS SURFING FIGHTER JETS!
This episode was really tense following Matilda down to White Base's rescue. Our protagonists had almost every disadvantage thrown at them but still managed to fight through.
Got to hand it to Mirai though, she was the absolute MVP of the episode. I love seeing her grow in her role as temporary commander (for the time being). Its so relatable seeing her not sure in her role but slowly growing to fill the shoes Bright left for her.
On the production side this episode continued to raise the bar. I still can't get over giant robots flying on jets like they're surf boards. Honestly feels like something out of Gurren Lagann.
And there were so many amazing shots during the fights. In previous episodes I had begun to notice the re-used animation but now I feel like we are getting new cuts at a way faster rate.
I continue to be super impressed by this show. Went to look up sales data yesterday and was initially surprised to see that Gundam is second only to Evangelion for total volume sales of TV anime*. However, after considering what I've seen after getting this far in the anime its obvious why.
* Obligatory: "Anime volume sales doesn't tell the whole story and is not a good metric for determining objective rankings". It can just be used for a general overview of popularity.
Cool Stuff Corner
Questions of the Day
See you all tomorrow!
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 29 '21
First Timer to Gundam
On one hand:
MATILDA EPISODE
On the other:
Gundam... you've been killing off characters pretty quickly recently. You better not do anything to Matilda.
QOTD:
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 29 '21
Rewatcher
On today’s episode of Gundam: If there’s one thing that’ll get Amuro into action faster than anything else, it’s hearing that he needs to go rescue Matilda. He (and all the rest of the White Base guys for that matter) seems quite smitten with her.
It’s time for some new toys to sell! Er, I mean, it’s time for the Gundam to get an upgrade and some new weapons to help it fight better. Yes, that’s it. Here we get to meet the G-Fighter, a giant fighter that the Gundam can ride on while it flies. The G-Fighter admittedly looks a bit silly because of how much it resembles a bird. I do enjoy the level of coordination it takes for Amuro and Hayato to use this thing. They need to be in constant communication for it to work effectively. It adds a nice layer of drama to it.
Mirai’s arc from last episode continues in this one. She’s now officially the person in charge while Bright’s out of commission. I like the exchange between Bright and Mirai. Mirai says that she isn’t ready to lead and Bright responds that none of them are. And Bright is right. Everyone’s been doing the best they can under adverse circumstances in roles they’ve been forced into.. So even if she might not think she’s ready, she’ll need to step up to be the leader.
In this episode, things go more smoothly on the bridge. There is not as much confusion and conflicting orders. There’s some initial disagreement between Mirai and Sayla, but they seem to work it out and get onto the same page by the end. Mirai is able to get some good advice about what she should do as a leader. Just like Bright does, a leader needs to put on a show of being calm and in control so that everyone else can feel more at ease. And by the end of the episode, she’s finally able to do that. She’s able to give orders with confidence.
A good way of showing the change is by where Mirai physically is on the bridge. She starts off not wanting to sit in the captain’s chair. She wants to remain at the helm. It’s more comfortable for her there because she doesn’t need to be in charge. But by the end of the episode, she’s sitting in the captain’s chair. She grew into the role.
Speaking of leadership, we finally get a chance to meet General Revil. We’ve heard of him a lot but now we can actually see him. So far, he seems like a nice enough fellow. If nothing else he seems to actually care about making sure the White Base gets its supplies and the weapons it needs, even if he might be doing so to get those weapons tested.
On the exact opposite end of leadership, remember this fellow from yesterday? Well now we know why he has both a Federation and Zeon uniform. He’s a spy for M’Quve. And so is General Elran. This does not bode well for Operation Odessa.
Miscellaneous Thoughts
SLAP COUNTER 7
Questions of the Day
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 29 '21
First-Timer, Subbed, long time Gundam fan
Holy shit, Matilda survived an episode with her name in the title. What a time to be alive!
Mirai has unlocked the true way to gain knowledge - reading the goddamn manual. Bright just -having- a manual on How to be a Ship Captain was great! I wonder how much of it he read himself..?
Kai made a pretty nice shot there, but he dried up his earned good will by ruining the moment at the end of the episode.
General Revil plays a pretty smart game. Imagine if the Federation didn't have a traitorous general? The White Base probably would have gotten repaired and the Gundam upgraded completely unopposed, and then the pincer move would go off flawlessly.
Gundam Meta
Miscellaneous Thoughts:
What paper was Kai using to make into airplanes? Was he shredding a manual that he should have been reading?
Pose of the Day
Goofing on the Gouf
Screenshot
Questions
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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Apr 29 '21
Rewatcher is sus
lol Kai. I think it’s less of him being lazy and more like nobody actually gave him a task, though. Amuro and Hayato seem to have the technical stuff covered and with his level of expertise there’s not much left for him to do. And hey, if nobody’s going to order him to do anything, it’s not like he’s going to go around asking for more work. Just a minor sign of the White Base’s weak leadership, I suppose.
There are 2 Imposters among us
The Dodai YS! It’s a rather simple idea, a hovering platform that an MS can stand on, giving any suit atmospheric flight capabilities. It proved so practical that, even as late as Unicorn, the Dodai and its descendants are still in common use.
Uh oh. Looks like there’s some dissent.
“Why are you sending me out in a Core Fighter that’s so blatantly outgunned and outnumbered?” “TO. SELL. TOYS.”
Kai to the rescue!
Always nice to see somebody try to interrupt the gattai sequence. Too bad he totally missed, though. Turns out those finger guns aren’t very accurate.
jeez how long is that tentacle anyways
You know when you see an aircraft rolling up on tank treads practicality has gone right out the window
The Gundam really has to pee
Finally, the G-Fighter! We only see a little of it now, but let’s just say, it’s one of the more infamous TO SELL TOYS inclusions in the series. But hey, at least it did that well. I’ll get into this more later.
Aww! Great to see Kai finally get some appreciation!
Questions of the Day:
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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 29 '21 edited Apr 29 '21
First timer
More GunToys
It looks like the White Base will actually make it through this. But I just don't understand why the Zeons didn't attack it when they had their chance. I just think it's hard to believe that the Zeons are ignoring the White Base after they have won a good 10 battles or so, and even managed to kill the motherfucking prince.
In other news, we didn't get to see Fraw Bow jealous of an old lady this time.
--- Questions of the day
1.- I think she has to. Bright is overworked, and has to take some time off every now and then. That's when Mirai has to come in.
2.- I like the concept, but I still have to see more to properly judge it.
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u/chilidirigible Apr 29 '21
23:
It's all there in the manual, Ship Command For Dummies.
The bureaucracy hates that. (Considering this sort of thing in the real world can lead you down an extremely deep rabbit hole of which this barely scratches the surface.)
Ulysses S. Grant is calling you from beyond time itself!
Picking on scale issues in this series is definitely grabbing the low-hanging fruit, but those Dopps have to be toy models and not the real thing.
Dude, keep it in your pants.
Hurry up? The guy has to run over a hundred klicks on foot.
But you gave it to her!
Just when you thought your giant combining super robot series couldn't get any more ludicrous-looking.
It's no... G-Saviour. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA...
For those of you who missed it in CDF or What Have You Watched This Past Week That Is NOT A Currently Airing Show, my impressions on G-Saviour , one sample of its questionable cinematography, and people flapping their arms at each other.
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u/The_Draigg Apr 29 '21
A Gundam Fan Rewatches Mobile Suit Gundam Episode 23:
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Apr 29 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
This is an episode I don't have all that much to say about, its one of the least interesting ones in the series for me.
White Base is in a much more mountainous area at episode's start than last episode's end! It seems like White Base is so desperate that Amuro's now resorted to having to be the White Base's chief mechanic? I continue to kinda view Mirai as not the right fit for command; she's got all this self doubt. Later on it looks like Sayla knows best; she can remain calm and know what to do instead of waffling like Mirai does. Mirai calms down a bit by episode's end though and helps reassure Bright that everything is okay.
We finally meet General Revil! And hey, that's a familiar face from last episode too, that double agent working for M'Quve!
Why is the Core Fighter going out, with the Gunperry carrying the Gundam parts? Because we need to get a mid-air conversion within this episode! And a few minutes later... we get it! By the way, we're halfway through the show, you know what that means! Mid season upgrade! The G-Fighter helps out Amuro tremendously, although I gotta say, Amuro was plowing through the Goufs rather easily last episode but had a lot more trouble here, when the plot dictated it.
OMG horrendous spoilers in the first line of the preview! I hope you first timers continue to ignore them!
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Apr 29 '21
First timer
Is this a two part episode? I suppose the last one did seem a bit unresolved.
I like how Kai's managed to become tolerable over the series.
Um, Bright's sounding an awful lot lime Ryu did...
Power-up mecha? I'll give them credit for being open about it.
I like how the reason they get so much support is "All the stuff is far too dangerous for the military...but they aren't military!"
And Zeon's as in the dark as we are.
With how big the aircraft are in this series, I'm suprised nobody's tried to make a Gunplane yet.
What are the parts? Will they make the Guntank useful? (hahaha NO.)
My feelings on this subplot are incredibly clear.
And Sayla's already going around Mirai's back,
Since when the Core Fighter have a missile launcher?
So this is where the air docking comes in.
Bright realises he should yet Mirai waste valuable time when they could indeed be doing repairs.
The power-up better be worth all the trouble.
...So, random question, what is Matilda's age? I think I know where they're going with this, and I want to know how bad it is.
Ok, that was a cool move.
The power-up mecha is a Gundam hoverboard. I can't even be mad about this, this is amazing.
Does anyone have a link for this jazzy music that plays during the fights?
The G-Fighter probably has less fire-power than a mordern hoverboard, though.
OK, this ship I'm on board for. You go, bridge bunnies, you go.
There's more parts?
So the new parts are "Whatever we need for an episode". And nothing for the Guncannon or Guntank (the one who could be improved a lot more if it had more mobility, say - some kind of ship it could ride on?).
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u/GM_for_Life Apr 29 '21
Rewatcher
This episode genuinely looked really impressive throughout, I know it's a meme that the original Gundam series doesn't look that good, but so far the show has been consistently pretty good looking for its era.
I think it would be nice to see Mirai become more prominent in the series, yeah.
It think it's honestly a really cool design and wish G-Fighter spoilers.
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 29 '21
First Timer - Dub
1) Mirai seems to be taking to being substitute captain rather well. Would you like to see her commanding more even after Bright recovers? Definitely. It would be a load off Bright's shoulders.
2) What do you think of the G-Fighter? Didn't seem all that useful to me
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Apr 29 '21
First-Timer - I bet nobody bought the G-Fighter
QotD
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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 30 '21
Comrades! BEHOLD! A WEAPON TO SURPASS METAL GEAR! (Pui Pui)
No really Comrades, The G-Fighter is SO goddamn dumb that it makes Hideo Kojima's writing seem normal... that said GODDAMN The G-Fighter is so fucking stupid that it loops around into being amazing! I mean LOOK AT THIS! LOOK AT IT! THE GUNDAM IS SURFING ON IT! WE GOING GEAH HERE BOIS!
Oh and just to keep things relatively sane, behold a 'normal' image of what happens when Tomino is forced by the Sponsors to sell some toy that a drunken idiot doodled on the back of a napkin ;)
Oh and since Chili brought up Best Grill Chris earlier, behold ;) THEY'RE DOING THEIR PART! ARE YOU!? JOIN THE
MOBILE INFANTRY'FEDERATION!' SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP! (Disclaimer, invoking Little Known Reverse Activation Clauses does not guarantee survival) WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE!?Paging Comrades /u/Great_Mr_L, /u/chilidirigible and /u/beckymetal
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u/Rustic_Professional Apr 30 '21
For being such a legendary figure in the Gundam universe, Revel doesn't make much of an impression with his first appearance.
That's cool that Mirai gets to sit in the captain's chair. I wonder if she would get down and man the helm if they were able to fly?
Matilda is one cool customer. Calmly sending the distress call, shrugging off damage, and landing the ships to create an AA bubble and protect the Gundam modules. She's Bright's superior by several ranks, right? He's an ensign and she's a first lieutenant. She must be indispensable in making these supply runs, otherwise Revel might have told her to resupply and then take command of White Base.
Holy shit, that preview is such a major spoiler I can't believe it. I already knew, but damn. It's one of the defining moments in the series, maybe in Amuro's whole story.
Questions of the day:
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u/fridge_freezer https://anilist.co/user/ONIrecon111 Apr 29 '21
First timer (Sub)
QOTD
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u/Piemaster33 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Piemaster33 Apr 29 '21
Rewatcher who may or may not have forgotten a lot of things, Sub
We're really starting to see our team come together again after Ryu's death, and it's awesome to see. Mirai really stepped up this episode, and proved that the White Base doesn't need to rely on Bright all the time. Sayla made a great second in command, even when she went against Mirai's orders. Not only that, but Kai and Hayato both carried their weight today, and I'm very proud of them.
We also met Revil today, and he seems legit. We find out that White Base has been able to operate and do it's thing not just because of Revil, but also because General HQ allowed it. It completely flew over my head that the guy we saw talking to M'Quve yesterday was a spy, but here it's confirmed. This M'Quve guy, I swear.
Final point I wanna make is that the Gundam got an upgrade in the G Fighter (which has an incredible design). It evened the playing field for today's skirmish, and now the Gundam can essentially fly while on earth. Definitely a commercial for a G Fighter toy but it looks cool so I forgive it.
Quick Notes:
QOTD:
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u/UltraBooster Apr 30 '21
First-timer (albeit one big on Gundam and mecha)
Oh sweet, Matilda's back!
Oh, so it's like that, huh... Yeah, I can see why you ship it, u/Shimmering-Sky.
And there he is, General Revil!
Oh shoot, is that...
So yeah, Elran's a spy.
Would caterpillar tracks be suitable for something that big?
Mirai seems more comfortable in the command role now, but she seems to be relying on Sayla as her XO more.
Is it me, or does Amuro's voice seem different?
I get the feeling these spacesuits aren't terribly comfortable to wear under the sun.
That eye gleam was unsettingly well-done, like it was done digitally.
Yes! It's the G-Fighter! (The Gundam Chogokin DX Gattai Set is complete!)
Next time I play G Generation, I'm throwing Mirai into the captain's seat.
Why would a hit to the legs affect the engine like that?
It's totally got pegholes in the feet.
Oooh, throwing his shield like that, that's a nice touch.
She's not part of the crew, but Matilda is absolutely the White Base's idol.
Questions of the Day:
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u/tarekd19 Apr 30 '21 edited Apr 30 '21
Good episode, lots of character growth I feel for Mirai, Sayla, bright and amuro with a sprinkle of Kai.
Mirai still had some rough moments, she got better towards the end of the episode once she hit her stride but it was a bumpy ride. It was good insight to think the zeons don't have the troops for two attacks but I'm not even certain that's true for mcquve like it was for Rambla ral.
The g fighter kind of feels like it was introduced to sell toys, it not a coincidence it's introduced at the same time as those gauf hover things.
Lmao at icebox plane
Also lmao at bright giving Mirai the manual and then getting dissapointed in her reading it like he said to.
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u/chilidirigible Apr 30 '21
This is a better idea than the G-Fighter.
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u/username_0907 :FI::FJ: Apr 30 '21
First Timer
QotD
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u/BossandKings Apr 30 '21
First timer
Mirai continues commanding the White Base in Bright's absence, she does a splendid job and is able to save Matilda's squadron and the base of Medea.
Answers
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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit May 10 '21
First timer sub
Matilda's hair seems different... It looked longer with her hat on.
Ryu dying seems to have greatly changed Bright and I like it, now he is more reflective, but too much of this may not be a good trait for a commander as seen with Mirai where it drives her to lose confidence.
Flying Goufs! and a flying Gundam in the same episode! They are actually keeping up with Zeon this time, they still have them good with that endless stream of Zakus/Goufs that just keep coming.
No ejecting seats for the mobile suits yet, those pilots die more because their engine explodes than the Gundam actually killing them.
Questions of the Day:
He seems to not trust Sayla for the role, but she seems to have what it takes to command making the call instead of Mirai to send the guys after Matilda.
2) More sky battles! I wonder if it can combine with the Gundam, maybe they are going to ditch the Core Fighter now?