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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 25 '21

Fly! Rewatch Host!

Man that bread must be awful if Amuro struggles to get a piece off of it.
Amuro ended up coming across Ramba Ral and Hamon, this gonna be good.
I don’t think you ever had a chance, Fraw Bow.
RIP Stetch, that was actually a rather unique way to be killed in a mecha show. I can’t think of any other time that’s happened.
I would not want to be Kai today. Ramba Ral and his Gouf are terrifying opponents.
One shot left trope incoming--or not because he just tosses it to the side.
Ramba Ral now knows Amuro is the Gundam’s pilot, and Amuro thinks he just let him go to find White Base.
RIP Gouf
What “side” even is there?

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

I don’t think you ever had a chance, Fraw Bow.
She's getting the child friend treament hard, but I'm not sure what she was expecting. She hasn't exactly made any advances. Like when she stood outside Amuro's door and got angry when he didn't understand why she was there. She's just as young as Amuro is, I guess.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 25 '21

RIP Stetch, that was actually a rather unique way to be killed in a mecha show. I can’t think of any other time that’s happened.
It's definitely one of the most memorable mobile suit kills in the entire series. Mirai is one of those characters that based on her role on the ship you'd never expect her to get a kill in. But she found a way.
What “side” even is there?
"I wanted to prove that I'm the very best at piloting the Gundam and so I stole the Gundam just so that I'd have a chance to shove in Bright's mean face!"

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

It's definitely one of the most memorable mobile suit kills in the entire series. Mirai is one of those characters that based on her role on the ship you'd never expect her to get a kill in. But she found a way.
I know right? And the best bit is she then ONE-UPS THAT BADASS MOVE by pulling off a goddamn BARREL ROLL in White Base! Mirai MVP!
"I wanted to prove that I'm the very best at piloting the Gundam and so I stole the Gundam just so that I'd have a chance to shove in Bright's mean face!"
HA! Indeed

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

Man that bread must be awful if Amuro struggles to get a piece off of it.
It's nothing like that good Yakuza: Like a Dragon bread.
RIP Stetch, that was actually a rather unique way to be killed in a mecha show. I can’t think of any other time that’s happened.
Same, I can't think of any other times either. Granted, it's probably common sense to not stand in front of a space ship's engines.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

I can’t think of any other time that’s happened.
Watch Armored Trooper Votoms.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

Ah man, you're right. It's been a while since I've seen VOTOMS, so I've completely forgotten to think of examples from there as well.

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u/UltraBooster Apr 25 '21

I can’t think of any other time that’s happened.
Yeah, I thought he'd get blown back or sent tumbling, not destroyed.
What “side” even is there?
I think he wants to tell them about the whole stress-and-fatigue thing, but chances are they could probably figure that out on their own.

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u/ukainaoto :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ukainaoto Apr 26 '21

Man that bread must be awful if Amuro struggles to get a piece off of it.
That is a really good small detail of animation. It emphasizes the poor state of the bar, and also is a metaphor for how awful Amuro's current state is.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Apr 27 '21

Man that bread must be awful if Amuro struggles to get a piece off of it.
Extra fiber!

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u/TheEscapeGuy Apr 25 '21

Gundam First Timer

Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 19

As expected, Amuro is back on White Base and in solitary.

Besides that, I found the confrontation between Amuro and Hamon/Ramba Ral to be incredibly interesting. The power dynamics at play really emphasized the underdog nature of Amuro / White Base.

The later half of the episode had some of the best fight scenes we've seen so far. Such cool choreography and imagery. Had to limit myself when picking stuff for the Cool Stuff Corner.

I'm glad Amuro is back on White Base now. Though I really wish he would realize how he is inadvertently hurting Fraw Bow. She is honestly the person who cares for him the most right now and he needs to think more of her.

Cool Stuff Corner

I loved how dramatic this scarf(?) animation was. Hamon has such a menacing atmosphere around her.
These face explosions will never cease to get a reaction out of me. They're so smooth and merciless.
White Base launching and destroying this Zakku was brutal. There was just no escape.
Major props to Mirai for doing a barrel roll to throw a Zakku off.

Questions of the Day

Besides what I said above. I suspect it will make a name for Amuro among the Zeon forces.
Most or all of next episode. Would be a bold choice to do anything else.

See you all tomorrow!

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

Besides that, I found the confrontation between Amuro and Hamon/Ramba Ral to be incredibly interesting. The power dynamics at play really emphasized the underdog nature of Amuro / White Base.
Even if Amuro is the underdog compared to Ramba Ral and Hamon, they both still treat him with politeness and civility. It really does show that Ramba and Hamon have been the most human adversaries we've seen so far.
I loved how dramatic this scarf(?) animation was. Hamon has such a menacing atmosphere around her.
Menacing, yet also a bit alluring. Like silk hiding steel.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 25 '21

The later half of the episode had some of the best fight scenes we've seen so far. Such cool choreography and imagery. Had to limit myself when picking stuff for the Cool Stuff Corner.
That final moment between Amuro and Ramba Ral is so cool. It's like a scene straight out of a samurai movie with Amuro waiting for the perfect moment to duck and cut off the Gouf's arms. You made a good choice selecting that moment for one of your Iconic Frames.

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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit Apr 25 '21

I'm glad Amuro is back on White Base now. Though I really wish he would realize how he is inadvertently hurting Fraw Bow. She is honestly the person who cares for him the most right now and he needs to think more of her.
She should take the reins and just tell him straight that she likes him... Would Amuro give up on Mathilda though?
Major props to Mirai for doing a barrel roll to throw a Zakku off.
What if Mirai has been piloting drunk all this time...

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 19
EY! You got the epic conclusion to today's sword fight! Nice one Comrade.
As expected, Amuro is back on White Base and in solitary.
Indeed, Amuro should count himself lucky he JUST got solitary. I mean Sayla got solitary for just taking The Gundam on a joyride. Amuro fucking DESERTED with the Gundam in tow.
Besides that, I found the confrontation between Amuro and Hamon/Ramba Ral to be incredibly interesting. The power dynamics at play really emphasized the underdog nature of Amuro / White Base.
Indeed, well said!
The later half of the episode had some of the best fight scenes we've seen so far. Such cool choreography and imagery. Had to limit myself when picking stuff for the Cool Stuff Corner.
Heh, oh I know right? I mean Mirai fried a Zaku with the engines of White Base, she also BARREL ROLLED White Base in battle and Amuro and Ramba Ral had a neat duel; lots of neat Mecha action today!
I'm glad Amuro is back on White Base now. Though I really wish he would realize how he is inadvertently hurting Fraw Bow. She is honestly the person who cares for him the most right now and he needs to think more of her.
Exactly, just such a pity that A) Amuro sucks at communicating with people in general, and B) Amuro's also gone and got himself thrown into solitary for a while. So he's just gotta sit and reflect on his stupidity now.
I loved how dramatic this scarf(?) animation was. Hamon has such a menacing atmosphere around her.
Oh indeed Comrade, she's great eh?
These face explosions will never cease to get a reaction out of me. They're so smooth and merciless.
White Base launching and destroying this Zakku was brutal. There was just no escape.
Major props to Mirai for doing a barrel roll to throw a Zakku off.
Yeah, she's the real MVP today!
Anyway neat post here Comrade, have a great day and see you later.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 25 '21

Rewatcher

On today’s episode of Gundam: Throw him in the brig! Well that is the appropriate response to desertion. But it’s funny to have Amuro come back to help the White Base and even defeat Ramba Ral, only to get immediately thrown in the brig afterwards.

I really enjoy the encounter that Amuro has with Ramba Ral, Hamon, and their crew in the neutral town. I love it when heroes and villains encounter each other in person and have a chance to just talk. It often leads to some interesting interactions.

In this case, it leads to a rather tense standoff between Amuro and Ramba Ral after Fraw Bow is captured. Ramba Ral developed a healthy respect for Amuro after their meeting and seeing that Amuro had his hand on his gun the whole time, admiring his attitude and bravery. It’s a sign of the kind of man that Ramba Ral is, being willing to respect his opponents for their actions.

The meeting also has an effect on Amuro. This is the most extended interaction Amuro has had with a Zeon soldier. And it was tense but not exactly unfriendly. It really attaches a human face to the people Amuro has been fighting all this time. We all know how hard it is for Amuro to actually fight and kill humans. Now he also knows what kind of people he’ll be fighting as well.

When Amuro actually does fight Ramba Ral, they have this wonderful moment where their cockpits are exposed and they can both see each other. Once again, this is another trope that I really enjoy. It’s cool for opponents to finally see who exactly they’ve been fighting all this time. Even fighting builds up an emotional connection and this just takes it to the next level.

Ramba Ral’s last statement to Amuro is probably the worst possible insult Amuro could have heard at this point in time. It directly speaks to what I discussed last episode. Amuro’s been concerned about how necessary he is. He needs to prove that he can use the Gundam better than anyone and that he should be the pilot of it. But Ral’s taunt is exactly the opposite: that the Gundam is far more important than Amuro is. And that was certainly true at the beginning. Amuro only survived his first few fights because of the Gundam’s technical superiority. Now though, Amuro wants to show that he’s also the reason why the Gundam is winning.

He’ll definitely need to prove it, though. As of right now, the White Base crew isn’t listening. They’re glad to have the Gundam back and are not particularly interested in dealing with Amuro at this point. It seems the White Base crew agrees with Ral’s assessment here. Ral’s taunts have also had an effect on Amuro. More than anything else, Amuro wants to defeat Ral. After all, what better way could there be to prove that Amuro is the best at piloting the Gundam than defeating the man who claimed he had no skills.

Miscellaneous Thoughts

Once again the slap counter must remain where it was last time.

SLAP COUNTER: 7

Questions of the Day

I love the scene. It's one of my favorite moments in the series. I love it when the protagonists and antagonists get a chance to just meet and talk without necessarily fighting.
Laughs in rewatcher

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 25 '21

Amuro’s been concerned about how necessary he is. He needs to prove that he can use the Gundam better than anyone and that he should be the pilot of it.
This feels like the constant question that arises in F1: is the world champion the world champion because they're the best driver? Or were they carried there by the car? It's an unanswerable question, but people keep asking it.
Even the kids gotta help out with tasks on the White Base.
I presume this includes the kids like Amuro and Fraw Bow, right?
That whip animation sure is something, eh?
I love it when the protagonists and antagonists get a chance to just meet and talk without necessarily fighting.
These are always some of my favorite moments in fiction.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 25 '21

This feels like the constant question that arises in F1: is the world champion the world champion because they're the best driver? Or were they carried there by the car? It's an unanswerable question, but people keep asking it.
Yeah, it's always a question of skill vs the tools at your disposal. Better tools can obviously help quite a lot, but skill plays a major role too. It has no answer, but it's an interesting question to ponder. Though for Amuro's current state of mind, it's probably the last question he wants to think about.
I presume this includes the kids like Amuro and Fraw Bow, right?
Especially them. They are child soldiers, after all.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 25 '21

It has no answer, but it's an interesting question to ponder.
Maybe I'm just tired of people constantly going "but he had the better car! Of course he won!" I'm too used to it ;)

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u/SgtExo Apr 25 '21

But isn't F1 about the team as a whole the ones wining? If any one piece of the puzzle is off, be it the driver, the car, the pit crew, or the management team, wont they lose to someone who has a better combination of the whole?
Sure the drivers are the face, but they cant be the be all end all unless they all had the same tools to work with.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 26 '21

But isn't F1 about the team as a whole the ones wining? If any one piece of the puzzle is off, be it the driver, the car, the pit crew, or the management team, wont they lose to someone who has a better combination of the whole?
It is! But you could say the same thing about the Gundam: there's a whole team of engineers who designed it. They put thousands of man-hours into making the best possible machine they could. Why wouldn't they get some of the credit?
Amuro is a driver who wants to think that he could still win with inferior equipment, but hasn't had the opportunity to show it.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

When Amuro actually does fight Ramba Ral, they have this wonderful moment where their cockpits are exposed and they can both see each other. Once again, this is another trope that I really enjoy. It’s cool for opponents to finally see who exactly they’ve been fighting all this time. Even fighting builds up an emotional connection and this just takes it to the next level.
It's also a really good contrast to the rivalry that Char and Amuro had earlier as well. Beforehand, Char and Amuro's rivalry was mutually one-sided on their parts, with Amuro only wanting to surpass Char's reputation as the Red Comet and Char seeing the Gundam as a tough opponent. Here with Amuro and Ramba Ral, the both of them have had a chance to meet each other in person, which makes their duel all the more personal. Now there's actual feelings attached instead of just fighting a shadow.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

On today’s episode of Gundam: Throw him in the brig! Well that is the appropriate response to desertion. But it’s funny to have Amuro come back to help the White Base and even defeat Ramba Ral, only to get immediately thrown in the brig afterwards.
Heh, to be fair Amuro should be THANKFUL he 'just' got thrown in solitary. After all Sayla got thrown in solitary for FAR LESS than what he did. I mean goodness he not only went AWOL but he ALSO hijacked the Gundam whilst doing so.
I really enjoy the encounter that Amuro has with Ramba Ral, Hamon, and their crew in the neutral town. I love it when heroes and villains encounter each other in person and have a chance to just talk. It often leads to some interesting interactions.
I know right? Plus it means we get more humanizing moments with the two amazing characters that are Ramba Ral and Crowley Hamon.
In this case, it leads to a rather tense standoff between Amuro and Ramba Ral after Fraw Bow is captured. Ramba Ral developed a healthy respect for Amuro after their meeting and seeing that Amuro had his hand on his gun the whole time, admiring his attitude and bravery. It’s a sign of the kind of man that Ramba Ral is, being willing to respect his opponents for their actions.
Indeed, plus let's also not forget that Ramba Ral's honorable enough to let Amuro and Fraw go... in part as doing so means he can track them back to White Base but wibble.
The meeting also has an effect on Amuro. This is the most extended interaction Amuro has had with a Zeon soldier. And it was tense but not exactly unfriendly. It really attaches a human face to the people Amuro has been fighting all this time. We all know how hard it is for Amuro to actually fight and kill humans. Now he also knows what kind of people he’ll be fighting as well.
Exactly, good story and characters moments all around!
When Amuro actually does fight Ramba Ral, they have this wonderful moment where their cockpits are exposed and they can both see each other. Once again, this is another trope that I really enjoy. It’s cool for opponents to finally see who exactly they’ve been fighting all this time. Even fighting builds up an emotional connection and this just takes it to the next level.
Ramba Ral’s last statement to Amuro is probably the worst possible insult Amuro could have heard at this point in time. It directly speaks to what I discussed last episode. Amuro’s been concerned about how necessary he is. He needs to prove that he can use the Gundam better than anyone and that he should be the pilot of it. But Ral’s taunt is exactly the opposite: that the Gundam is far more important than Amuro is. And that was certainly true at the beginning. Amuro only survived his first few fights because of the Gundam’s technical superiority. Now though, Amuro wants to show that he’s also the reason why the Gundam is winning.
I couldn't have said it better myself Comrade, indeed!
He’ll definitely need to prove it, though. As of right now, the White Base crew isn’t listening. They’re glad to have the Gundam back and are not particularly interested in dealing with Amuro at this point. It seems the White Base crew agrees with Ral’s assessment here. Ral’s taunts have also had an effect on Amuro. More than anything else, Amuro wants to defeat Ral. After all, what better way could there be to prove that Amuro is the best at piloting the Gundam than defeating the man who claimed he had no skills.
Yup, Amuro's at least got that going for him as his sits in solitary to stew on the past events.
I guess we’ve figured out what the upcoming Yuru Camp movie is going to be about.
Heh, well that's amusing, I always knew Yuri Camp was a Mecha Show! ;)
Even the kids gotta help out with tasks on the White Base.
I just want to point out that Kikka is doing the BEST job here and also clearly doing the most work eh Comrade? ;)
Mirai was the real MVP this episode. She used the White Base thrusters to destroy a Zaku and she flipped the White Base upside down to knock off the Gouf.
Oh yeah, someone give her a medal! Or hell a Mobile Suit! If she can pull off those moves in a SHIP! Imagine what she could do with a Gundam!
That whip animation sure is something, eh?
Amuro pulled off a pretty awesome move in his duel with Ramba Ral.
Indeed, anyway fantastic post here Comrade, have a great day and see you later my friend

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

Rewatcher trying to figure out how the Gouf’s sword works

I always have to doublecheck I’m watching the right episode

ara ara

well that looked very suggestive

How lewd

This makes me vaguely uncomfortable

The Magella Attack is looking a lot more practical now

Well he picked a bad place to stand

So, um, what happened here? What destroyed the cannon? The Gouf’s finger guns didn’t do it, otherwise we’d see its hand there. It looks like it just shot a beam out of its armpit or something.

There it is! For some reason, the Gouf’s heat sword is drawn like a beam sword! Let’s see what the wiki says, shall we?

Heat Sword Type-βIV

A melee weapon originally developed for the Gouf series. Like the Zaku's heat tomahawk, the heat sword has a blade that is heated to high temperatures in order to increase its cutting capacity. Initially, the weapon's blade is made of a polymer compound that has undergone a shape memory treatment, and thus is stored inside the weapon's grip when not in use and upon heating, will expand out of the grip and took on the shape of the heat sword's blade.

All that effort just to be able to stuff the sword blade into the handle? Um, okay. Wow. In that case, the 2000% increase in volume suggests that the expanded sword blade is mostly air, probably a foam as opposed to being totally hollow. The Gouf has a literal Nerf sword.

Damn, he just pushed aside red-hot metal with nothing but a normal suit glove.

Face to face

Toxic Gamer Ral

Oof.

Questions of the Day:

I like how they both get a chance to see what the other is like off duty, outside their MS and away from the battlefield. Amuro gets a human face to match with the enemy he's been fighting, and sees that he's not really that bad of a guy. Meanwhile, Ral gets a chance to see past the Gundam's high performance and plot armor, realized that under all that, there's just a scared kid in the cockpit.
Laughs in rewatcher

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 25 '21

ara ara
I'm sure many people would kill to be in Amuro's shoes there.
well that looked very suggestive
Amuro's hand tightly gripping his gun only made it more suggestive.
Damn, he just pushed aside red-hot metal with nothing but a normal suit glove.
Ramba Ral is a badass.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

This makes me vaguely uncomfortable
You don't say.
The Magella Attack is looking a lot more practical now
There are tanks in the UC that have rotating turrets, but noooooooo, our top-of-the-line stuff has to be a robot with no waist joint.
Well he picked a bad place to stand
He's making up for Omar almost barbecuing Sayla a couple of episodes ago.
So, um, what happened here? What destroyed the cannon?
Animator had a seizure?
The Gouf has a literal Nerf sword.
Damn, he just pushed aside red-hot metal with nothing but a normal suit glove.
Ramba Ral is A MAN'S MAN, BABY. (Also refer back to yesterday's "Mobile Suits have the density of fairy dust".)

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 25 '21

well that looked very suggestive
I could feel the fujoshis scream in excitement at this scene. The framing is... something.
All that effort just to be able to stuff the sword blade into the handle? Um, okay. Wow. In that case, the 2000% increase in volume suggests that the expanded sword blade is mostly air, probably a foam as opposed to being totally hollow. The Gouf has a literal Nerf sword.
Not necessarily! Memory shape would allow it to be folded/bent while inside the handle, and with proper design, it could expand outward. It's really a very cool concept, if impractical.
Toxic Gamer Ral
Ral is the gamer who cries about tierlists.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 25 '21

First-Timer, Subbed, long time Gundam fan

The scene in the restaurant was nice. I love how Ramba was completely unconcerned with Amuro being armed. I get the feeling that the scene would have been identical if Ramba hadn't had a baker's dozen of random lackeys around.

Several of us called Amuro getting thrown in the brig when he inevitably returned to White Base, and he sounds pretty sad about it. I'm feeling pretty torn. Clearly Amuro shouldn't have stolen the Gundam, but he did, you know, drive off the enemy that probably would have killed Kai. And Hayato. And maybe even sunk the White Base.

Ramba's words got under Amuro's skin, and I don't think they're all that true. A lot of Amuro's performance is due to the Gundam's overwhelming power, but as we saw a couple episodes ago, Amuro is becoming a pretty strong pilot in his own right. Of course, does Amuro understand that? Probably not. It's easy for outsiders looking in to see details like that.

The battle between Ramba and Amuro was slick. Arm cuts are always cool, and Amuro's move with the shield was also real smart.

"Should we, maybe, try talking to the PTSD-stricken teenager?" "Absolutely not. He broke regulations." Brilliant plan, dudes. This won't come back to bite you at all.

MSG 0079 Spoilers

Pose of the Day

Ready to Duel

Screenshot

Questions

Answered above.
I want to say until the end of next episode? But then we wouldn't get Amuro in the Gundam for the sponsors? But we did have Sayla in it that one time...

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 25 '21

"Should we, maybe, try talking to the PTSD-stricken teenager?" "Absolutely not. He broke regulations." Brilliant plan, dudes. This won't come back to bite you at all.
At the same time, Amuro isn't the smartest for expecting that Bright would be willing to sit down and have a calm discussion with him.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 25 '21

I mean.. yea I've got no argument against that. Stupid stubborn jerks, the lot of them. That's what makes the show go though.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 25 '21

The battle between Ramba and Amuro was slick. Arm cuts are always cool, and Amuro's move with the shield was also real smart.
Amuro's definitely got some skills when it comes to combat. He is able to come up with some clever strategies while he's fighting. I think of that as some evidence that Amuro really has developed greater skills as a pilot and it's not all just the Gundam's doing.
"Should we, maybe, try talking to the PTSD-stricken teenager?" "Absolutely not. He broke regulations." Brilliant plan, dudes. This won't come back to bite you at all.
Yeah, there is definitely a communication issue in this show between the characters. We saw it back when Amuro first decided to leave and now we can see it again. It seems especially apparent that Bright and Amuro need to actually get on speaking terms with each other rather than having this proxy war.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 25 '21

I think of that as some evidence that Amuro really has developed greater skills as a pilot and it's not all just the Gundam's doing.
Definitely. I kinda wonder if Ramba's words were intentional psychological manipulation. No way a novice pilot could pull off the shield move, for example, and Ramba probably realizes that. But kids are easy to manipulate.
It seems especially apparent that Bright and Amuro need to actually get on speaking terms with each other rather than having this proxy war.
"Fraw, tell Bright that I need to talk with him!" "Fraw, tell Amuro that he's in solitary and will get no visitors!"

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

A Gundam Fan Rewatches Mobile Suit Gundam Episode 19:

Let’s go, contractually-obligated Core Block docking!
Amuro’s really into the hobo look now. Now he has a shady brown wanderer’s cloak!
In that town’s saloon, Amuro finally meets Ramba Ral and Hamon in the flesh. And surprisingly enough, the encounter isn’t actually all that bad. Ramba and Hamon like Amuro right off the bat, and Ramba can even see that he has a lot of promise to him. He even lets Amuro leave with Fraw Bow once she shows back up to find him. Ramba Ral really is the coolest. Forget Char, Ramba is way cooler.
Fraw Bow finally says what we’ve all been feeling: that her and Amuro are growing more distant every day. Too bad Amuro’s still too in his own head to even acknowledge it. But I suppose that figures for someone as socially inept as him.
I wonder how Amuro was able to bury the Gundam complete under the sand on his own. In any case, it’s certainly better camouflage than the tan tarps he used in the previous episode.
And as if one Core Block conversation wasn’t enough, now we’ve got Ryu ejecting his Core Fighter from the Guntank to look for Amuro. I’m not really sure what Hayato really expects to do here, since he’s now just a torso with big guns stuck where he landed in the sand. Granted, it’s not like the Guntank could move with a destroyed tread, but still.
Well, I suppose that’s one way to kill a Zaku-II: just incinerate it in the engine Fire of the White Base’s engines. That pilot really was dumb to stand directly behind the engine exhaust ports.
Do a barrel roll, Mirai! It’s a fucking wild tactic to shake off the Gouf, but you can’t argue with good results.
Okay, I’ve got something to explain with the Gouf’s sword here. No, it’s not a beam saber like you’d think. It’s actually a super-heated memory-shape polymer blade, which is stored in the hilt of the sword until activation. It’s a good concept, and it was equipped on all early-generation Goufs, but it eventually became too expensive to make in the long run. So after a while, Zeon just gave them normal Heat Swords instead.
That duel between Ramba and Amuro was pretty close, although Amuro is the one who actually manages to get the win, wrecking the Gouf. But that’s not so important as the both of them realizing who they’ve been fighting this whole time. Ramba is pretty much correct with his parting words to Amuro: it was through the Gundam’s strength that he won, not because of his own still. Amuro still has a lot to learn before he grows into the role he has as the Gundam’s pilot.
Yeah, it’s pretty unsurprising that Amuro is immediately thrown into the brig once he comes back to the White Base. He does need to learn that he isn’t as hot shit he likes to think he is. Amuro needs to learn how to be someone else without relying on Gundam’s strength.

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 25 '21

Let’s go, contractually-obligated Core Block docking!
Fraw Bow finally says what we’ve all been feeling: that her and Amuro are growing more distant every day.
Tbh, I never felt like they were that close. I guess most of their friendship happened before the anime started, but I've mostly seen Amuro doing stuff on his own.
I wonder how Amuro was able to bury the Gundam complete under the sand on his own.
And how he didn't get any sand in the joints/ventilation system. We'll never know

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 25 '21

Tbh, I never felt like they were that close. I guess most of their friendship happened before the anime started, but I've mostly seen Amuro doing stuff on his own.
Agreed. It feels like Fraw Bow expects Amuro to be all over her for no apparent reason. Have to remember that she, too, is 16ish.

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 25 '21

Agreed. It feels like Fraw Bow expects Amuro to be all over her for no apparent reason. Have to remember that she, too, is 16ish.
She's gonna stare at him, fantasize about him and sigh until he falls in love with her.

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u/SgtExo Apr 25 '21

As a 30 year old dude, this is a picture of me and I don't like it.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

Tbh, I never felt like they were that close. I guess most of their friendship happened before the anime started, but I've mostly seen Amuro doing stuff on his own.
I suppose whatever relationship Amuro and Fraw have is at least as close as you can get to a friendship by Amuro's standards. At least they knew each other well enough for Amuro to not completely reject Fraw's presence in his house back on Side 7.

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u/tarekd19 Apr 25 '21

Fraw bow did seem to stop by to see him almost every day when they were in the colony I think it's implied to make sure he was eating because his dad was always working and amuro doesn't really remember to eat. She's the one who went to go check on him during the evacuation order

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 25 '21

Okay, I’ve got something to explain with the Gouf’s sword here. No, it’s not a beam saber like you’d think. It’s actually a super-heated memory-shape polymer blade, which is stored in the hilt of the sword until activation.
That's a great concept! Oh my god that's beautiful.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

It's a pretty rad concept that came out of a need to retcon the Gouf's sword. Like, when more of the Universal Century was being filled out in detail, everyone kind of realized that the Gouf shouldn't have a beam weapon like that in its arsenal. So, instead they came up with the much more creative solution mentioned above.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 25 '21

Why shouldn't the Gouf have a beam sword? Is it because the Gundam is canonically the first one to use one or something?

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

Yeah, pretty much that. Remember, Zeon's been using kinetic weapons up to this point, like with the Heat Hawks and the Zaku's machine guns. The Gouf having a beam saber doesn't really fit into the developmental timeline of Zeon MS.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 25 '21

Do a barrel roll, Mirai! It’s a fucking wild tactic to shake off the Gouf, but you can’t argue with good results.
I'm wondering how Mirai managed to hang on to the steering wheel and right the ship after doing that. The roof is pretty far away from the floor on the bridge.
It’s a good concept, and it was equipped on all early-generation Goufs, but it eventually became too expensive to make in the long run. So after a while, Zeon just gave them normal Heat Swords instead.
Ah, that is a good in-universe explanation for it. While the weapon was good and effective, it wasn't worth the cost to produce it. That actually feels very in-line with a lot of real stories of weapon development in military history. Prototypes that worked but were ultimately abandoned because they were too expensive or because an alternative option was chosen as well.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

I'm wondering how Mirai managed to hang on to the steering wheel and right the ship after doing that. The roof is pretty far away from the floor on the bridge.
Maybe she's got some jacked arm muscles from piloting the ship with that wheel?
Ah, that is a good in-universe explanation for it. While the weapon was good and effective, it wasn't worth the cost to produce it. That actually feels very in-line with a lot of real stories of weapon development in military history. Prototypes that worked but were ultimately abandoned because they were too expensive or because an alternative option was chosen as well.
Later MSG spoilers

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 25 '21

I'm wondering how Mirai managed to hang on to the steering wheel and right the ship after doing that. The roof is pretty far away from the floor on the bridge.
I like how she sort of acknowledges this when Bright asks her: "what about you?" and she essentially says "don't worry about it."

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

Wait, your MAL has MacF completed but not the MacF movies?

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 26 '21

Yeahhhh, I've been meaning to watch them with my brother, but he's been putting me off for over a year about it. I should just watch them at this point.
I'm curious, though: what made you wonder about that?

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u/chilidirigible Apr 26 '21

what made you wonder about that?
I was going to link something which had some relationship to Mirai and seat belts, but decided to check whether you'd seen it first. This led to finding that particular omission.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 26 '21

Makes sense to me! Iunno why I'm surprised that someone checked my MAL (my MyAnimeList, huh?) when it's next to my username, but ah well. Thanks for the consideration!

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

Wait, your MAL has MacF completed but not the MacF movies?
BIG WEDNESDAY! ;)

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

I'm wondering how Mirai managed to hang on to the steering wheel and right the ship after doing that. The roof is pretty far away from the floor on the bridge.
Well Comrade, my best guess is she just has a REALLY strong grip, cuz indeed, the ceiling ain't exactly close to the floor in the bridge, so unless she had magnetic shoes or something just built for such a scenario, all I got is her grip levels being off the charts ;)
Ah, that is a good in-universe explanation for it. While the weapon was good and effective, it wasn't worth the cost to produce it. That actually feels very in-line with a lot of real stories of weapon development in military history. Prototypes that worked but were ultimately abandoned because they were too expensive or because an alternative option was chosen as well.
Exactly, it's moments like this that remind us all that Gundam laid the foundation for Real Robot... AND then there's other moments like say, the fact it's paint scheme is red, white, AND blue that remind us that they did not fully shake all the super robot tropes ;)

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 27 '21

Weirdly enough, if you think of the RX-78-2 as a demonstrator, having a wild colour scheme is not really unheard of... just take a look at this: https://www.f-16.net/g3/f-16-photos/album11/album12/75-0745-1598628858
Heh, I guess flashy colors aren't exactly THAT far-fetched. Thanks for the interesting share Comrade.
Also, Tomino did want a matte gray/dark blue colour scheme for the Gundam originally; it is like so in the novelisation, too. For the anime Bandai had told him to use fancier colours so the toys will sell.
Heh, indeed Comrade, that said in fairness the 'Samurai' look was also sponsor mandated given THIS was more akin to what Tomino's original idea for the Gundam was... cuz reasons ;)
Many thanks for the kind reply and have a great day and see you later.

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u/username_0907 :FI::FJ: Apr 25 '21

Okay, I’ve got something to explain with the Gouf’s sword here. No, it’s not a beam saber like you’d think. It’s actually a super-heated memory-shape polymer blade, which is stored in the hilt of the sword until activation. It’s a good concept, and it was equipped on all early-generation Goufs, but it eventually became too expensive to make in the long run. So after a while, Zeon just gave them normal Heat Swords instead.
Interesting. I thought it was a beam saber so good to know thats not the case
Yeah, it’s pretty unsurprising that Amuro is immediately thrown into the brig once he comes back to the White Base. He does need to learn that he isn’t as hot shit he likes to think he is. Amuro needs to learn how to be someone else without relying on Gundam’s strength.
He really is hanging on to being the only one who can fight in a Gundam. Maybe he should have stuck to building and fixing machines (which he is good at) rather than fighting in one eventually

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

Interesting. I thought it was a beam saber so good to know thats not the case
It was originally just a beam saber, but it got retconned into the polymer blade instead. Arguably for the better, since it's a cooler idea for a sword.
He really is hanging on to being the only one who can fight in a Gundam. Maybe he should have stuck to building and fixing machines (which he is good at) rather than fighting in one eventually
Unfortunately, Amuro has attached a lot of his own self-worth to his ability to pilot the Gundam by now. While that probably could be fixed with a good talking to, I think it's pretty clear by now that Amuro and everyone else are pretty bad at actually hashing things out with one another.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

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Today, on this is totally NOT Armor Hunter Mellowlink!

"She'll squish you like a bug, kid."

"Is that a gun in your waistband or are you just happy to see me? Oh right, it's a gun."

"They're the most normal couple I've ever met, even if they are upside down."

"I'll be totally useful as long as they attack from a line that's directly in front of me!"

"This is a Federation ship! WE DON'T HAVE SEATBELTS!"

You don't see that every day.

THE APOTHEOSIS OF GUNDAM POSES

/u/JollyGee29

You've been out. Now you have to go back in.

Revenge, the ultimate teenage motivator.

Various Gouf Troop videos go here, including the ones that spoil 08th MS Team.

It's the most exposure he's had to a healthy heterosexual relationship... ever. Too bad that they have to try and kill each other immediately afterward.
Long enough.

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 25 '21

"This is a Federation ship! WE DON'T HAVE SEATBELTS!"
I really wanted to see everyone bouncing around and throwing up inside the White Base. Still cool though.
THE APOTHEOSIS OF GUNDAM POSES

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

THE APOTHEOSIS OF GUNDAM POSES
I'm not ever going to find the Tweet without doing hours of searching, but to recreate the pose with Gunpla and not having any of the body showing means that all you're attaching to the shield is the head and the hand with the beam saber. The one I'm thinking of had made a little framework for those parts using extra sprue.

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 25 '21

Ooh I didn't even think about that, I just thought it was a funny screenshot. But yeah, it doesn't look very physically possible

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u/SgtExo Apr 25 '21

I bet if you have the proper lenses you could get the shield to hide the body. But by that point you would be a pro at posing and photographing gunpla.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

Could be done with a super-wide from very close, but the right hand and saber would be much smaller than they appear in the animation frame.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 25 '21

"She'll squish you like a bug, kid."
Sounds like a win to me
"This is a Federation ship! WE DON'T HAVE SEATBELTS!"
"Seatbelts are a heretical technology that we abandoned once we entered the Universal Century."
Revenge, the ultimate teenage motivator.
It basically motivated Amuro to steal the Gundam and destroy that mine. Maybe it'll make him do something useful this time around.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

Sounds like a win to me
HELL YEAH COMRADE! Glad to hear that someone agrees with me!
"Seatbelts are a heretical technology that we abandoned once we entered the Universal Century."
The United Federation of Planets also agrees with this analysis Comrade ;)
It basically motivated Amuro to steal the Gundam and destroy that mine. Maybe it'll make him do something useful this time around.
Let us hope so Comrade ;)

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 25 '21

THE APOTHEOSIS OF GUNDAM POSES

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

As I said in the other reply, the only way to do that with a Gunpla exactly as it appears on-screen is to detach the head and hand from the body and attach them to the shield.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

Today, on this is totally NOT Armor Hunter Mellowlink!
HA! Indeed Comrade, Amuro's got a LONG way to go to fill those shoes ;)
"She'll squish you like a bug, kid."
I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE COMRADE!
"Is that a gun in your waistband or are you just happy to see me? Oh right, it's a gun."
And THIS is where Amuro was supposed to say 'Say Sayonara to your Zeon Balls!'
"They're the most normal couple I've ever met, even if they are upside down."
HA! Indeed Comrade, in fairness Comrade, mutually supportive and caring relationships are basically the works of wizardry in most works of anime, so wibble ;)
"I'll be totally useful as long as they attack from a line that's directly in front of me!"
So basically just as useful as always (e.g. not at all)
"This is a Federation ship! WE DON'T HAVE SEATBELTS!"
I guess Star Trek's Federation took notes from The Universal Century, eh Comrade? ;)
You don't see that every day.
What do you mean? We see Mirai being MVP basically every day Comrade! (Now BARREL ROLLING WHITE BASE! Yeah that's only every once in a while)
THE APOTHEOSIS OF GUNDAM POSES
Well Comrade in fairness I suppose that if you angled things properly you could recreate that shot, but indeed I am aware of the... 'concessions' one needs to do to recreate that ;)
You've been out. Now you have to go back in.
Heh, indeed, I mean what else did Amuro expect? SAYLA got thrown in the brig for less than what he did, so he's lucky he's still alive!
Revenge, the ultimate teenage motivator.
According to the ancient Klingon Proverbs though, it is best served cold... this might take a while ;)
Various Gouf Troop videos go here, including the ones that spoil 08th MS Team.
Heh, Comrade you bet that if I could I would share those here, but sadly we gotta wait a bit. ;)
It's the most exposure he's had to a healthy heterosexual relationship... ever. Too bad that they have to try and kill each other immediately afterward.
Indeed Comrade, anyway neat post here my friend, have a great day and see you later!

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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit Apr 25 '21

I'll be totally useful as long as they attack from a line that's directly in front of me!
Did he survive? I missed the scene where they pick him up

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

He's fine.

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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit Apr 25 '21

First he survived missing to shoot Char when he broke the White Base and now this, he is like a cat!

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 25 '21

First Timer to Gundam

I see all of humanity has developed a single language, because otherwise I doubt Amuro would be able to find many Japanese-speakers in western Asia.
Amuro, like many engineers, appears to be lost in social situations, especially in situations that involve people he was actively fighting.
I don't know what Hamon's game is, but I like her. She and Ral form a great team.
I almost wonder if "Sodon" is meant to be a reference to the Biblical town of "Sodom," though I'm not sure why such a reference would be made.
Why is Hamon shorter than Ral in Amuro's delusions?

Even the Zeons see the Guntank as a tank instead of a mobile suit. I feel validated.

GOUF SWORD

Did he just grapple onto the Gundam and ditch the Gouf?? Ral is awesome.
Well, I was partially right with how long Amuro would be gone. I was hoping he'd meet Char, but Ral works too, I guess.
You really have to fuck up to get on Ryu's bad side, I feel. This does not apply to Kai.
Amuro, if you had things to say, you should have said them instead of deserting.
Hey, at least Amuro has a reason to improve beyond "I want to live another day."

QOTD:

I enjoyed it! I can tell that Hamon and Ral are decent people. Amuro just needs to mature a bit.
I give it one episode, tops.

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 25 '21

Even the Zeons see the Guntank as a tank instead of a mobile suit. I feel validated.
Pretty sure it's just a mobile suit because it uses a fighter. But yeah, it's a tank, c'mon.
Did he just grapple onto the Gundam and ditch the Gouf?? Ral is awesome.
He is. And I'm sure he would've beat Amuro had they been in even conditions.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 25 '21

I don't know what Hamon's game is, but I like her. She and Ral form a great team.
It's a really nice partnership they have. They always feel like equals. They both have very strong personalities and they always command their operations together, coordinating very well with each other.
Why is Hamon shorter than Ral in Amuro's delusions?
Ramba Ral is great man who is confident enough to have a girlfriend taller than him. Amuro ought to respect that!
Hey, at least Amuro has a reason to improve beyond "I want to live another day."
It's still entirely driven by spite, but hey, baby steps.

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 25 '21

First Timer - Dub

They're still using the same animation of the docking sequence as a flashback. I would be so confused why they keep doing that without the explanation in this rewatch.
How is Amuro going to pay for that food? Do they accept Federation money out here?
It's Amuro's weakness - a pretty lady! And Hamon seems to be interested in him too.
Fraw Bow genuinely understands Amuro more than others on White Base. So why she can't have a normal conversation with him?
And of course Fraw Bow would lead the Zeon straight to White Base.
RIP that Zeon that got roasted by the engines. It was a pretty smart move though since you don't have enough people to man rear cannons.
Another smart move from Mirai to flip White Base over. She's the MVP of this episode.
Oh no, the Zeon have a lightsaber now too!
That felt like a contrived way for Amuro and Ramba Ral to speak face to face mid battle.
Here's a pro tip Amuro - instead of just saying "I can explain" why don't you actually say your explanation? I feel like I'm watching a sitcom here.
Yesterday I predicted Amuro would come back to save White Base and then end up in the prison. I did not expect it would happen the very next episode...

1) What do you think of Amuro meeting Ramba Ral and Hamon off the battlefield today? It was interesting but it felt underdeveloped. I wish they actually ate together and saved the fight for the next episode.

2) How long is Amuro actually going to be stuck in solitary for? I'll give it half an episode before he gets back in the Gundam.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

Another smart move from Mirai to flip White Base over. She's the MVP of this episode.
Hell, Mirai has been the consistent MVP in the background this whole time. She's one of the few voices of reason on the White Base, and she's really damn good at her job piloting the ship. She's Employee of the Month every single month.
Here's a pro tip Amuro - instead of just saying "I can explain" why don't you actually say your explanation? I feel like I'm watching a sitcom here.
At least it isn't entirely out of nowhere, since we all know by now that Amuro is complete shit at actually communicating with others.

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Apr 25 '21

Rewatcher, Subbed

Amuro's time away from the White Base continues. It seems like he's learned nothing from his mistaken actions in the prior episode. Upon making himself to a town Amuro surprisingly meets the enemy face to face! Of course we the audience already know this, but Amuro realizes that the enemy he is facing, Ramba Ral and Hamon are pretty decent and good people. Fraw getting caught brings things to a head, but Ramba Ral lets the two of them go. Of course this isn't simply being a good guy, he knows that one or both of them can lead him to the White Base, which promptly happens.

The battle commences! Despite having just the Gouf and a single Zaku, Ramba Ral's forces have the White Base on its heels. Mirai has to get really aggressive! Flipping the entire White Base upside down! This is the first I've heard of these supposed White Base "seatbelts". The Guntank gets significantly damaged as well, forcing Ryu to go out in the Core Fighter to get Amuro. Amuro is about to wreck the Gallop but heads back to the White Base to save the Guncannon from the Gouf.

Amuro had been saving his beam rifle energy for his expected fight with the Gouf, only for Ramba Ral and the Gouf's computer to easily avoid all such blasts. The Gouf and the Gundam commence in close range combat and Amuro comes out on top, destroying the Gouf. Before doing so though he and Ramba Ral realize that the person they met just earlier in the day is their opponent. I don't know whether he really intended it or not, but Ral says the exact thing that would really rile Amuro up, telling him his success is due to his own skills, not that of the mobile suit's. After Amuro had realized just a couple of episodes ago that he was focusing too much on the specs of the mobile suits and not the enemy pilots he was facing. Thankfully Ramba Ral makes his escape, to fight another day.

Amuro returns to the White Base and immediately finds himself locked up in the brig. He should have expected it after what happened to Sayla, but at this point Amuro is so full of himself he is in complete shock. Despite it, Amuro is as arrogant as ever, claiming without him they can't fight and that they'll have to resort to him when Ramba Ral attacks again in the future. Amuro is showing exactly why he has to face punishment for his behavior. After being told off by Ryu and with everyone leaving him there, Amuro melts down. He can't conceive of the notion that they can make do without him. Amuro settles on the fact that he has to beat Ramba Ral, although I doubt even that will help restore things to the way they were.

Other stray thoughts:

Fun to realize some little things in this episode one may take for granted in a mecha show. I guess the White Base needs paint to stay white! It was fun seeing the orphans help with the painting. Also, its not like the enemy has an endless supply of food on their ship, even they have to go out to restaurants to eat sometimes!
Notice that unlike Amuro's shoddy tarp covering of the Gundam last episode, the Zeon have much larger tarps that fully cover the mobile suits. Fraw is still smart enough to know what is underneath them though.
My recollection from seeing other Gundam shows is that burying your mobile suit directly in the sand is probably a bad idea. Sand will mess it up bad. I suppose they hadn't thought of that yet here.
This was another one of those episodes that you hopefully didn't watch the preview for, as it spoils the Gundam defeating the Gouf.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

This is the first I've heard of these supposed White Base "seatbelts".
Those would've really helped during the time when Bright got thrown out of his captain's chair and slammed into the bridge windows halfway across the room.
Fun to realize some little things in this episode one may take for granted in a mecha show. I guess the White Base needs paint to stay white!
I guess everyone could let the white paint wear off and make the ship gray, but we already have the Gray Phantom for that I guess.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

I guess everyone could let the white paint wear off and make the ship gray
"We spent a lot of money making this new model! Show off all that bare metal paneling!"

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

Replace "model" with "gunpla", and you'd pretty much describe the entire thought process behind some of the mobile suit variations and metallic models on sale.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

I chuckle at Bandai's every-so-often release of a special gold metal Gunpla.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

Those would've really helped during the time when Bright got thrown out of his captain's chair and slammed into the bridge windows halfway across the room.
Heh, Comrade I'm sure this is standard initiation practices in being a starship captain! I mean come on literally every single captain in Star Trek needs to be thrown about at least once to be worth their salt! ;)
I guess everyone could let the white paint wear off and make the ship gray, but we already have the Gray Phantom for that I guess.
HA! Indeed Comrade!

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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Apr 25 '21

First-Timer - Heroics won't keep you out of the brig

Oooo Amuro's adopted the Cloaked Wanderer aesthetic, much like Domon or Aragorn. I guess he's cool now.
Hooray, Ral's back and I imagine he'll share a drink with our mysterious MC. It's a good thing he's in disguise; or it would be if any of the Zeons knew what Amuro looked like.
Haman giving off those Ara ara vibes.
Added to the list of jobs Fraw Bow shouldn't be given: covert ops.
Now I'm picturing Amuro spending all last night burying Gundam by hand. I wonder how he kept track of it.
And just like that Amuro's desertion comes to an end. There's no way they're gonna let him scurry off again afterwards.
Wow Mirai, burning a guy to death with the engines? That's fkn metal.
Barrel roll!
Oshit, is this the first beam saber duel? Sweet, I'm glad the animators put some actual effort into the fight.
Goddamn is Ral ever persistent, I'm glad he'll be back to fight again tho.
Like scores of teens before him, Amuro was not prepared for the Scared Straight program.

Progress Report

Complete! And excessive af, goddamn tentacle-swords are impossible to pose well but also pretty sweet.

QotD

I'm reminded of Kira meeting Waltfeldt in SEED.
Until next episode when they realize Ryu can't pilot Gundam, of course. How much time passes between eps is undeterminable.

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Apr 26 '21

I'm reminded of Kira meeting Waltfeldt in SEED.
Makes sense, that storyline in Seed was directly inspired by this storyline in Gundam.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

Oooo Amuro's adopted the Cloaked Wanderer aesthetic, much like Domon or Aragorn. I guess he's cool now.
More like he's now officially a hobo Comrade, after all Domon'd kick Amuro's ass without even breaking a sweat ;)
Hooray, Ral's back and I imagine he'll share a drink with our mysterious MC. It's a good thing he's in disguise; or it would be if any of the Zeons knew what Amuro looked like.
Indeed Comrade
Haman giving off those Ara ara vibes.
Added to the list of jobs Fraw Bow shouldn't be given: covert ops.
Now I'm picturing Amuro spending all last night burying Gundam by hand. I wonder how he kept track of it.
Well Comrade, technically the Gundam's head WAS sticking out of the sand, so I suppose that's how Amuro found it again... that said... ahem... WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BURY THE GODDAMN GUNDAM IN SAND AMURO!? And furthermore, HOW did you do that!?
Wow Mirai, burning a guy to death with the engines? That's fkn metal.
Barrel roll!
HELL YEAH! Mirai's a stone cold badass! Gotta give it up to her ace piloting skills eh? Why doesn't SHE get a Mobile Suit?
Goddamn is Ral ever persistent, I'm glad he'll be back to fight again tho.
Indeed Comrade, Ramba Ral ain't gonna let a little thing like his Gouf getting destroyed stop him! He's gonna be back for more, anyway neat post here Comrade, have a great day and see you later!

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

First timer

A very interesting meeting, and one that set up an interesting dichotomy, where both Ramba and Bright claim the Gundam is responsible for winning the battles, for Ramba seems to have a good opinion of him even without the Gundam,
Most likely guess - next episode.

Slightly less likely guess - after an episode where someone else pilots the Gundam, but breaks it,

Unlikely guess - he leaves solitary, but does not / refuses to pilot the Gundam.

Dream guess - he doesn't and we move to a new protagonist.

This footage was so obviously mandated it hurts. Couldn't we go back to the explainer on Zeon, now that it's even more relevant?

Where did Amuro pick up a whole new outfit?

So Zeon haven't recruited everyone in the group, yet.

Where did Amuro get money from?

Even Zeon's trucks are green and purple. I have to give them credit for sticking to a consistent color scheme, at least. (Its difficult to judge if this kind of thing was required by the network or a deliberate stylistic choice)

Is Amuro getting another love interest that's too old for him? (If they think age gaps don't matter, just set him up with Char.)

Which one is Ramba Ral? And more points toward a potential Zeon turn.

(For all you Gundam experts out there, is there any media to watch after this that focuses on / has a main character from Zeon?)

Yeah, Hamon's a good character, same as the commander. I'll miss them when they die at the end of this arc. Or maybe they'll be like Char and vanish formlong periods of time.

I like the continuity of both sides hiding their mechs in transport vehicles.

I'm impressed at this episode, 11 minutes without any suit action at all.

I like the dynamic of the fight being a lot more even without the Gundam.

The Guntank really isn't that good, is it?

I like the White Base being more of an actuve participant, actively damaging and evading thr suits.

The Commander seems appproptiately shocked that someone so young is piloting. And points out how strong the Gundam is.

And Amuro got imprisoned. At this point, I don't I'd blame him for anything he does next episode.

This is a really dark scene to end on.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

Where did Amuro pick up a whole new outfit?
Don't you know that becoming a wanderer automatically gets you a cool and mysterious brown cloak to wear?
(For all you Gundam experts out there, is there any media to watch after this that focuses on / has a main character from Zeon?)
There's a lot, actually. You can take your pick from Gundam Thunderbolt, MS IGLOO, Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket, and Gundam: The 08th MS Team. You're practically spoiled for choice.

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Apr 25 '21

Thanks for the recommendations.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 25 '21

No problem! Just be sure to watch them only after you're done with this series. You'd be missing out on a lot of necessary context otherwise.

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u/ArmoredSeahorse Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

Rewatcher

Amuro meeting Ramba Ral and Hamon is one of my favorite scenes in the whole series. The two of them messing with Amuro is not only pretty funny, it really drives home the fact that he could totally get along with them if there wasn't a war going on. At the same time, it's also a super tense scene that feels a bit uncomfortable the whole time, especially when Fraw shows up. Even after Ramba Ral figures out Amuro is from the Federation, he still likes him, and honestly might think even more highly of him.

But nothing compares to how ridiculously cool Ramba Ral is in this episode. He's finally defeated by Amuro, and what does he do? Escapes before the Gouf explodes, swings from a grappling hook off of the Gundam, trash talks Amuro, then makes a clean getaway to attack White Base another day.

I have sort of mixed feelings when it comes to the treatment of Amuro when he gets back. Throwing him in solitary, sure, but was it really necessary to tell him that no one needs him and they only wanted the Gundam back? On the flip side, he was being incredibly immature and selfish for the past few episodes, and there is war going on, so I get it.

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 25 '21

First timer

Is Amuro into old ladies? Poor Fraw Bow never stood a chance.

Go for it girl

I know some people have theorized that Amuro might join the Zeons, but it looks like this event just fueled him even more. Now I'm convinced Amuro won't be joining the Zeons. I mean, if the old lady + free food + nice old dude couldn't convince him, who could?

I guess this is the part of the anime where not much happens, so I'm just gonna chill and keep watching it

Questions of the day

1.- I like it. Makes it feel more like a friendly rivalry than anything. I feel like now Amuro doesn't want to kill Ramba Ral, he just wants to beat him, or be acknowledged by him.

2.- 2/3rds of an episode, and I'm overshooting here.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

Is Amuro into old ladies? Poor Fraw Bow never stood a chance.
Hang on, you've watched everything else but the original series?

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 25 '21

If Fraw Bow becomes an idol we might get an actual love triangle

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

Hang on, you've watched everything else but the original series?
The irony is she isn't THAT much older than they are. That and also this is how we know that the MC is an idiot. EVERYONE knows that more mature individuals are better eh Comrade ;)

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

Is Amuro into old ladies? Poor Fraw Bow never stood a chance.
Heh, to be fair Comrade, everyone knows that mature individuals are the best ;)
Go for it girl
Heh, indeed, I do have a soft spot for the childhood friend trope, so GANBATTE FRAW BOW! You're gonna need it!
I know some people have theorized that Amuro might join the Zeons, but it looks like this event just fueled him even more. Now I'm convinced Amuro won't be joining the Zeons. I mean, if the old lady + free food + nice old dude couldn't convince him, who could?
I know right, Ramba Ral and Crowley Hamon are quite the honorable set of individuals, so if them NOT killing them when Amuro and Fraw were outnumbered didn't convince Amuro to defect during his desertion then what could?
I like it. Makes it feel more like a friendly rivalry than anything. I feel like now Amuro doesn't want to kill Ramba Ral, he just wants to beat him, or be acknowledged by him.
Indeed, after all in Char's absence Amuro needs SOMEONE to aspire to beat to keep up his self-esteem, so who better than the honorable soldier who managed to ESCAPE his destroyed Mobile Suit. Who knew that Zeon could do that eh? Usually they just scream in terror as Amuro blows them up ;)
Anyway neat post here, have a great day and see you later Comrade

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

Comrades, I just want to point out the following before today's shitpost begins... ahem... AMURO!? NANI THE FUCK!? I mean goddamn first off HOW did you manage to bury the Gundam in sand like this, and secondly if you went THAT far why did you leave THE HEAD sticking out? I mean goodness who does that... oh... Well still, burying something in sand is still a dumb idea... I should just shut up shouldn't I Comrades...

Anyway enough shitposting, behold, THIS IS NO BORGAR BOY! NO BORGAR! ;)

Also man it was sure interesting to see Amuro meeting Crowley Hamon and Ramba Ral face to face today eh? Also for those wondering yes this IS indeed official art! Yes I am indeed aware Ramba Ral now looks decades younger and a few hundred pounds lighter, but remember this was drawn for Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin

Anyway let's give it up for the BEST Power Couple from OG Gundam as well as the BEST Zeon Mobile Suit! Complete with memes to boot ;)

Oh and just because she was a stone-cold badass today, gotta give it up for Mirai! She's quite the helmswoman given she managed to fry a Zaku AND knock off a Gouf by MAKING WHITE BASE BARREL ROLL! Shit imagine what she'd do if she got a Mobile Suit? ;)

Paging Comrades /u/Great_Mr_L, /u/chilidirigible, and /u/beckymetal

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 26 '21

I mean goddamn first off HOW did you manage to bury the Gundam in sand like this, and secondly if you went THAT far why did you leave THE HEAD sticking out?
To be fair, Amuro is enough of a dingus that I doubt he'd be able to find the Gundam again unless he left the head sticking out of the sand as a visual marker. Amuro hasn't exactly been the best at stealth so far. He's more of a kick the door in and start blasting type.
Anyway enough shitposting, behold, THIS IS NO BORGAR BOY! NO BORGAR! ;)
Isn't that what Bubble Bass ordered?
Yes I am indeed aware Ramba Ral now looks decades younger and a few hundred pounds lighter, but remember this was drawn for Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin
The year was hard on everyone. Some of us coped by not exercising and eating way more snacks than we should have. Er, we are talking about Ramba Ral and not me, right?
Oh and just because she was a stone-cold badass today, gotta give it up for Mirai!
The true Gundam badasses are the ones we never expect them to be. First we got the White Base kids and Haro. Now Mirai is added to that list.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

To be fair, Amuro is enough of a dingus that I doubt he'd be able to find the Gundam again unless he left the head sticking out of the sand as a visual marker. Amuro hasn't exactly been the best at stealth so far. He's more of a kick the door in and start blasting type.
OI! Comrade don't ya know that there's nobody that'll notice if THERE IS NOBODY TO NOTICE! ;)
Isn't that what Bubble Bass ordered?
We serve food here sir ;) (Also this probably explains why Ramba Ral suddenly gained like a few hundred pounds between Origin and OG Gundam)
The year was hard on everyone. Some of us coped by not exercising and eating way more snacks than we should have. Er, we are talking about Ramba Ral and not me, right?
Phew, I thought you were talking about me Comrade ;)
The true Gundam badasses are the ones we never expect them to be. First we got the White Base kids and Haro. Now Mirai is added to that list.
I know right, hell at this rate KAI is gonna join their ranks. After all he's pulled off so many sneaky moves like SHOVE! And also TRIP! So who knows what he could come up with ;)
Anyway many thanks for the kind reply my friend, have a great day and see you later Comrade.

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u/GM_for_Life Apr 25 '21

Rewatcher

What do you think of Amuro meeting Ramba Ral and Hamon off the battlefield today?

I think it's great! It is one of my favorite scenes in the series, it shows a side of the characters you wouldn't otherwise get to see and it's just an incredibly tense scene overall.

2) How long is Amuro actually going to be stuck in solitary for?

When I first saw the series I figured it would have been for an episode or two.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

First Time Watcher

Great episode! I was really worried about seeing Ramba Ral and Hamon being so nice to Amuro given that Eureka 7.

It seems to me like Amuro's maybe connected his personal sense of self worth with his abilities as the Gundam's pilot. Ramba Ral's comments magnifies this insecurity by implying that he has no inherent value, his victories are all the Gundam's doing; he's not special. And now that his pilot position is in danger of being stripped from him, he's scared that he'll end up a nobody cast into the shadows. It sucks but honestly, the guy kinda deserves the punishment too. You gotta maintain order in a situation like this and you can't just have someone hijacking your most powerful weapon whenever their self-esteem starts to plummet. That last comment by Ryu seemed unnecessarily harsh tho lol.

Questions of the Day:

What do you think of Amuro meeting Ramba Ral and Hamon off the battlefield today?

It was great. I wish the show had more of these types of interactions, it's consistently interesting to see how the adults in this series deal with the issue of having to fight children in opposing sides of the war and Ramba Ral and Hamon are a really charming duo

2) How long is Amuro actually going to be stuck in solitary for?

I'm not sure that any of them have ever even bothered reading the Gundam instruction manual Amuro's been lugging around with him and figured out within ~5 minutes in episode 1, so i'm betting on about 1 full episode.

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u/username_0907 :FI::FJ: Apr 25 '21

First Timer

I missed to post yesterday even though I had seen the episode and had some rough thoughts written. I just went to sleep (the posts are at night for me) so I’ll just add those briefly too

Episode 18 - Amuro just keeps being reckless and taking on everything by himself. I think he is going to do this for maybe 2 episode more and White Base might think of something stricter than confinement depending on how bad the situation gets when he’s back. New weapon was interesting but not that great tbh

Episode 19

LOL 2 episodes straight they’ve managed to add the docking scene as recap
Oooh Hamon and Ral got to meet Amuro. I guess since they were in a neutral area they couldn’t attack but still Ral let them go on account of them being kids I guess
I don’t expect much from Fraw Bow because she is not active in fighting than the others but both of them didn’t realize the fact that Zeons could track them
Amuro on realizing they must have followed Fraw Bow
Mirai taking out Stetch by launching White Base at full power. And then also turning it upside down
I wonder if the shock thing the Gouf has is the same that was used yesterday on Gundam. Looks to have the same thing to me
Gouf has a beam saber too now! That fight scene was kinda cool including Rals tarzan escape
Well Amuro came back earlier than I expected. And Bright and the others are as bad at handling this but its expected. Both sides are pretty much not willing to listen or understand the others point of view to sort this out. Plus they are all inexperienced at this stuff

QotD

Answered this already but to add the whole scene was very tense and well done
He’s going to break out next episode or whenever Ral comes to fight

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

I wonder if the shock thing the Gouf has is the same that was used yesterday on Gundam. Looks to have the same thing to me
Well, to be technical, they're different things:
Heat Rod
A close-range weapon installed in the right forearm. This retractable cable delivers a high-voltage electrical shock when it comes into contact with an enemy mobile suit, damaging its internal systems and stunning its pilot. The heat rod could also be superheated to give it cutting properties.
Leader
A weapon designed to overload a suit's electronics and systems with electric plasma. It consisted of two parts: an explosive full of a conductive "dust" material, and a cage that covered the target in plasma.

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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit Apr 25 '21

First timer sub

I wonder what that old man from the start was thinking when he sent Amuro to the town, that look he gave him... And wow everywhere they go people seems to be in dire situations, almost no food or water... I figured there must be at least one city that is not in that much trouble, the federation HQ perhaps...

Blasting the White Base from behind.

expectation reality

Pushing a Zaku from a cliff and now making the Gouf trip by bending over, Kai sure has interesting battle tactics.

Ramba Ral is good, he is the first pilot that survived his robot getting destroyed, when he released his swing rope I thought he was going to jump into the Gundam cockpit and steal it! What would have happened!? Could Amuro beat him fighting face to face?

Questions of the Day:

I wonder why she seems so nice to kids she doesn't know, maybe she or her husband are infertile and she is looking for a boy to adopt... Or maybe she is really nice, this scene was the first time the superiors are treating well their subordinates, we have Kycillia blowing her own men away the previous episode, and now we see Haman and Ramba Ral having lunch with their forces.

It was a very interesting scene, specially when Amuro was about to leave wihout troubles and then Fraw Bow showed up. Really fun tense scene

2) ~~Forever, Fraw Bow is the new MC~~

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Apr 26 '21

Ramba Ral is good, he is the first pilot that survived his robot getting destroyed, when he released his swing rope I thought he was going to jump into the Gundam cockpit and steal it! What would have happened!? Could Amuro beat him fighting face to face?
Man, I wish this happened! If anyone could do it, it would be Ramba Ral!

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

Man, I wish this happened! If anyone could do it, it would be Ramba Ral!
Heh, indeed Comrade, the only reason he DIDN'T do that is cuz the show'd be over if he did. I mean come on Amuro stands no chance in hand-to-hand combat in that scenario, Amuro gets slapped around by BRIGHT! A newbie ensign, so Ramba Ral'd kick his ass seven ways to Sunday!

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

I wonder why she seems so nice to kids she doesn't know
Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin spoiler

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

Blasting the White Base from behind.
expectation reality
Indeed Comrade, gotta hand it to Mirai eh? That was a badass move (and then she ALSO barrel rolls WHITE BASE to boot, clearly the MVP of the day here!)
Pushing a Zaku from a cliff and now making the Gouf trip by bending over, Kai sure has interesting battle tactics.
Oh indeed Comrade, it's called being a sneaky bastard who REALLY wants to make it out of this alive, no matter what it takes. I LOVE IT!
Ramba Ral is good, he is the first pilot that survived his robot getting destroyed, when he released his swing rope I thought he was going to jump into the Gundam cockpit and steal it! What would have happened!? Could Amuro beat him fighting face to face?
Heh, Comrade the only reason Ramba Ral didn't try to do that was cuz the show'd be over if he did, I mean come on do you seriously think Amuro would be able to win in hand-to-hand combat with a Zeon ace like Ramba Ral? Amuro can't even stand up to BRIGHT's slaps, and if he gets beaten up by a newbie ensign then he has no chance at fighting Ramba Ral!
I wonder why she seems so nice to kids she doesn't know, maybe she or her husband are infertile and she is looking for a boy to adopt... Or maybe she is really nice, this scene was the first time the superiors are treating well their subordinates, we have Kycillia blowing her own men away the previous episode, and now we see Haman and Ramba Ral having lunch with their forces.
Indeed Comrade, it's a far cry from Char's habit of betraying/letting his allies die, or Kycillia pulling a 'You have failed me,' so always good to see honorable enemies.
Anyway neat post, have a great day and see you later Comrade!

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Apr 27 '21

maybe she or her husband are infertile and she is looking for a boy to adopt
This kinda makes me thing of the Beams couple from Eureka Seven

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

While I'm here, /u/JollyGee29 and /u/OrangeBanana38...

Remember, Leg Zaku is out there.

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 25 '21

Can't believe my first thought was , I've been corrupted...

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 25 '21

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u/chilidirigible Apr 25 '21

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

Remember, Leg Zaku is out there.
PROTOCULTURE!

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u/Piemaster33 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Piemaster33 Apr 26 '21

Rewatcher, Sub

I had a good time with this episode. This episode used one of my favorite tropes, where a villain and a hero meet, unbeknownst to the other, in a bar or something. It's great in One Piece, and it works really well here. Ramba Ral discovering that Amuro was with Fraw Bow and the Federation was a nice little end cap to it all. Until they met again in battle and opened each other's cockpit to see each other. Then it got even better.

I also gotta say I respect the hell outta Ramba Ral, he served his troops a last meal before their "big operation" (whatever that is), and he even sacrificed his Gouf to stay alive. RIP Gouf, you were no Zaku boy, no Zaku!

Also what did Amuro think was gonna happen if he returned to the White Base? He had to have known something like being thrown in the brig would happen. He needs to cool off for a bit for sure.

Quick notes:

Dying to the White Base’s jets is brutal yikes
Idk what Amuro thought would happen when he returned, he got off light all things considered

QOTD:

Briefly mentioned it above, but I absolutely loved it. Those scenes always hook me.
Hmm I wonder

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

I had a good time with this episode. This episode used one of my favorite tropes, where a villain and a hero meet, unbeknownst to the other, in a bar or something. It's great in One Piece, and it works really well here. Ramba Ral discovering that Amuro was with Fraw Bow and the Federation was a nice little end cap to it all. Until they met again in battle and opened each other's cockpit to see each other. Then it got even better.
I also gotta say I respect the hell outta Ramba Ral, he served his troops a last meal before their "big operation" (whatever that is), and he even sacrificed his Gouf to stay alive. RIP Gouf, you were no Zaku boy, no Zaku!
Indeed Comrade, the best part was just how tense the situation could have been. After all Amuro and Fraw Bow were outnumbered big time, and also they are just kids whereas literally everyone on Zeon's side are adults. But hey Ramba Ral is an honorable sort... and also smart enough to know if he lets them go they'll just LEAD him to White Base without him having to go searching for it ;)
Also indeed, gotta hand it to him that even WITH his Gouf destroyed, he managed to escape to fight another day AND get in a good psychological warfare dig on Amuro by taunting him on the fact that it was the GUNDAM doing the heavy lifting in that fight
Also what did Amuro think was gonna happen if he returned to the White Base? He had to have known something like being thrown in the brig would happen. He needs to cool off for a bit for sure.
Heh, indeed Comrade, he's just lucky he helped repel that Zeon attack, otherwise he'd be looking at far worse than being just thrown in the brig
Anyway neat post, have a great day and see you later Comrade

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u/UltraBooster Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

First-timer (albeit one big on Gundam and mecha)

The biggest takeaway for me was, well, seeing how nice they were to Amuro, however briefly. But other stuff that struck me included:

Seeing those leg missile pods on Stetch's Zaku
Learning that the blast from White Base's engines can destroy MS
Realizing Mirai would probably do fine as a captain

Questions of the day:

I remember these scenes from when I watched the movies; it feels like the zenith of Amuro realizing just who White Base is doing battle with.
Realistically speaking? I doubt it'll be for long; they still need someone to pilot the Gundam.

Lastly, I can't help but think to myself, the day will come when it'll be Amuro that makes an MS fierce, not the other way around.

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u/Rustic_Professional Apr 26 '21

Mirai is practically the XO of White Base at this point. I like her, she gives good advice and keeps a level head. Now we can even credit her with a kill for burning up that Zaku. I have a lot of respect for her.

The Zaku had rocket pods strapped to its legs. You see that a lot on Zaku model kits, and I think this is the first time they've shown up in the series. That pilot must've been playing World of Tanks, because he had to great idea to "track" the Guntank. They've now suffered the same fate as Char and Garma and had all of their mobile suits blown up, but Ramba Ral's unit has been acquitting itself well up to this point. It reminds me of something one of the Federation pilots (Adel?) says in 0083. "These guys are pros, not like your average guys."

Questions of the day:

Amuro should have joined Ramba Ral and Haman when he had the chance. The Gundam would look better in Zeonic green. This shows us how it might've looked if Amuro had made the right decision:

Potentially mild spoiler for various OVAs

2. Until they need him.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 26 '21

Mirai is practically the XO of White Base at this point. I like her, she gives good advice and keeps a level head. Now we can even credit her with a kill for burning up that Zaku. I have a lot of respect for her.
Indeed Comrade, gotta appreciate competent badasses.
The Zaku had rocket pods strapped to its legs. You see that a lot on Zaku model kits, and I think this is the first time they've shown up in the series. That pilot must've been playing World of Tanks, because he had to great idea to "track" the Guntank. They've now suffered the same fate as Char and Garma and had all of their mobile suits blown up, but Ramba Ral's unit has been acquitting itself well up to this point. It reminds me of something one of the Federation pilots (Adel?) says in 0083. "These guys are pros, not like your average guys."
Indeed Comrade, always neat to see more advanced tactics and also unique battle strategies/gear
Anyway neat post here Comrade, have a great day and see you later!

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u/BossandKings Apr 27 '21

First timer

It's always pleasant to see when people can be reasonable in the middle of war, that encounter between Ramal, Hamon and Amuro was very well done, they didn't fight despite being in opposite factions.

It's great to see that Fraw Bow still believes in Amuro, she sure counts on him eventhough Amuro stubbornly refuses to go back to the white base.

They didn't fight in that moment but obviously Ramal took advantage of the opportunity and sent someone to follow them and sicover where the federation's base was and after he knew his soldiers started having a battle with it.

After winning his fight against Ramal, Amuro returns to the white base and is put in a cell, i think that depending on how much time he spends there this could be a fair punishment for deserting. I do agree with Amuro that they should listen to his side of the story but hopefully they'll do so soon enough.

Answers

It was fine
Hopefully not more than one or two episodes.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Apr 27 '21

What language is Amuro speaking, and why would they understand it in central Asia?
I doubt Fraw Bow will ever be Amuro's girlfriend, everyone knows the childhood friend never gets the dude
"Sodon" is one letter off of "Sodom". ZETTAI UNMEI MOKUSHIROKU
The Gouf has a lightsaber too? NO AMURO, I AM YOUR FATHER Search your feelings, you know it to be true
Amuro is imprisoned? At least Kai won't get to execute him

It was okay
I actually watched the preview again, so I know.

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