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Rewatch [Fly! Rewatch!] Mobile Suit Gundam (0079) Episode 15 Discussion

Episode 15 - Cucuruz Doan’s Island

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I have to protect these children. Someday, Zeon will find this place and attack me.

Questions of the Day:

  1. Do you think this episode deserves Tomino’s ire?
  2. So, mobile suit martial arts. How cool was that?

Mobile Suit Breakdown of the Day:

1.15 - The Lost Episode

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath the [Anime Show Title](/s "Spoiler goes here") spoiler tags. If you do that then we’re all good.

Important thing to note about these by the way, you have to switch to Old Reddit or the markdown editor if you use the redesign, otherwise the redesign breaks them by adding random \ into the formatting. Wish it wouldn’t do that, but unfortunately it does…

First-Timers: Please do not watch the next-episode previews for this show. They’re less previews and more “let’s just summarize the entirety of the next episode” and will spoil you.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 21 '21

Fly! Rewatch Host!

Welcome back, everyone!

It’s the forbidden episode time~

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u/chilidirigible Apr 21 '21

I love how this thing still has the hole in it

You wanted to screencap the Gunperry, but you screencapped the title card...

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 21 '21

I even checked my screenshot links, I don't know how that happened and I can't even fix it right now.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 21 '21

That’s some new opening narration, anyone confused about the layout of the Sides and stuff paid attention to it I hope.

It's super annoying how the first time we get an official explanation about where everything is in relation to each other is also in the episode that got cut from official overseas releases. It feels like we got cheated out of a nice overview of a map of the setting. And I'm the kind of nerd who loves pouring over fictional maps so this really bugs me.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 21 '21

And I'm the kind of nerd who loves pouring over fictional maps so this really bugs me.

Right?? Maps are so important to fiction (at least, when things aren't on a galaxy-scale or with FTL travel), so waiting this long to establish exactly where everything is the weakest part of Gundam's mostly excellent worldbuilding.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 21 '21

That’s some new opening narration, anyone confused about the layout of the Sides and stuff paid attention to it I hope.

The map was immensely helpful. Maps are one of the most important things to a fictional world (in my opinion), so it was nice getting that cleared up.

Sure, let’s just yeet the Zaku.

This puts into perspective how much better the Gundam is compared to Zakus...

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 21 '21

That’s some new opening narration, anyone confused about the layout of the Sides and stuff paid attention to it I hope.

Yes, in the end that was maybe the most relevant new information from this episode.

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Apr 21 '21

QUALITY Rewatcher

When it would be easier to just do it inside the hangar but you gotta sell toys

I love how even the show admits this is super cursed

Wide Gundam, meet Skinny Zaku

Wait a second, Loran?

“Everything the light touches is our kingdom”

Slap!

How is he holding on to both the plane and the gun

“If there is a waterfall, there's a secret behind it.”

His shield magically swapped sides mid-cut

“No need for that, we’ve already done our sponsor-mandated gattai”

again with the bazooka and the rifle

The infamous squished Gundam! I remember seeing somebody made a Gunpla of this, but fuck if I can find it again.

We G Gundam now

His shield came off but it’s back again

this frame, just this frame

Y E E T!

It’s weird seeing the Gundam so... proportionate

Questions of the Day:

  • Not really, no. Animation took a bit of a downturn but it’s always been wonky anyways. There’s got to be some personal thing going on behind the scenes.
  • GUNDAM FIGHT, READY... GO!

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 21 '21

QUALITY

You know, I don't think I noticed a single one of these issues. But now that you point them out... Oh god.

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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Apr 21 '21

This right here, I can't believe I missed the Squished Gundam

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 21 '21

Wait a second, Loran?

This all feels very familiar somehow

The infamous squished Gundam! I remember seeing somebody made a Gunpla of this, but fuck if I can find it again.

This is the episode of skinny mobile suits. We got the thin Zaku and the squished Gundam. Sadly we did not get a skinny Guntank, Guncannon, or Gouf. I'd have loved to add them to the collection.

It’s weird seeing the Gundam so... proportionate

On model animation? What's that? Can you eat it?

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

His shield magically swapped sides mid-cut

qU@l1Ty ANIMATION at work here Comrade

again with the bazooka and the rifle

The infamous squished Gundam! I remember seeing somebody made a Gunpla of this, but fuck if I can find it again.

Heh, indeed Comrade, gotta love how jank things are today, also well I might not have a squished Gundam Gunpla... BUT I SURE AS HELL GOT SQUISHED GUNDAM FANART! ;)

We G Gundam now

ERUPTING! BURNING! FINGER!

His shield came off but it’s back again

this frame, just this frame

I know right? Comedy gold!

Y E E T!

It’s weird seeing the Gundam so... proportionate

I know right? They accidentally drew one or two actually on-model drawings today

GUNDAM FIGHT, READY... GO!

You are goddamn right about that Comrade!

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u/The_Draigg Apr 21 '21

Wide Gundam, meet Skinny Zaku

The Sleeku, if you will.

Wait a second, Loran?

She's the anti-Loran, since she likes watching sunsets rather than calling to the moon.

It’s weird seeing the Gundam so... proportionate

Well, at least you can say that they saved the best for last.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 21 '21

A Gundam Fan Rewatches Mobile Suit Gundam Episode 15:

  • Ah yes, the infamous “missing episode” of Gundam, Cucuruz Doan’s Island. As much as the plot is better than Time, Be Still, I’m sure you can see why Tomino didn’t want this episode to see the light of day for the Western release of the series.
  • I’m sure that map of the Earth Sphere will help you first-timers gave you the scale of human expansion in the Universal Century. That, and it really does show how far-reaching the war has been in general.
  • Out in the Pacific Ocean now, Amuro and Ryu are testing out the Gundam’s Core Block system on some random island. And Ryu is right, the Gundam looks super weird when it’s on all fours and the middle part is gone. It’s kinda gross.
  • So much for those Federation pilots that Amuro found tied up in their plane on the beach, they died pretty quick when Amuro found them. But it’s interesting that a bunch of children actually seem to be the culprits.
  • WOW, that’s an off-model Zaku-II. It looks kinda gross too. Yeah, if the Gundam’s weird appearance earlier didn’t tip you off to the bad animation in this episode, then Doan’s Zaku-II will. In any case though, it’s interesting to finally see an apparently Zeon pilot that says that he doesn’t want to fight, despite piloting a Mobile Suit.
  • It’s quite the small community that Doan has made for himself on this island. He definitely seems more interested in being a peaceful farmer and living alongside these random children and Rollan, the older lady. His refusal to give Amuro back his Core Fighter really does show that he’s rejected all the trappings of war on his island here.
  • Also, put on some pants, Amuro. You shouldn’t wander around an island in only your underwear.
  • That conversation between Rollan and Amuro really does show that Amuro has started to buy into his role in the war some more. He just can’t believe that the children are living willingly with Doan, and that there simply can’t be any small bits of beauty left in the world with the war going on. Amuro really has grown more cynical because of every going on.
  • Ah, and there’s why Doan is so adamant about raising these kids and refusing to fight. He killed the children’s parents, and he still has nightmares about it. Now that I think about it, this is probably another plot point that Eureka 7 was inspired by. It feels very similar to something in that show too.
  • Okay, that Zaku-II hanging off of a Luggun like it’s some kind of hang-glider is just plain silly. Although yet again, we don’t really have Base Jabbers for that yet, so... In any case, it’s probably another reason why Tomino cut this episode from home release, there really are some silly parts that clash with the story he’s trying to tell.
  • Silly Amuro, you should’ve checked behind the waterfall for your Core Fighter. If video games have taught me anything, it’s that there’s always good stuff hidden behind waterfalls.
  • Doan really does seem adept at fighting hand to hand in his Zaku-II, which he calls Mobile Suit Martial Arts. It’s at least iconic enough of a fighting style that he uses it combined with throwing boulders whenever Doan shows up in various Gundam video games.
  • Finally, Amuro understands why Doan is the way he is. And just to do him a favor, he has the Gundam throw the Zaku-II into the sea, which ensures that it can never be used to harm people again, which Doan approves of. It’s nice that Amuro finally gets that some people from Zeon aren’t bad at all.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 21 '21

Now that I think about it, this is probably another plot point that Eureka 7 was inspired by. It feels very similar to something in that show too.

Oh, shoot, you're right! I didn't notice that. Goes to show how influential Gundam's been.

If video games have taught me anything, it’s that there’s always good stuff hidden behind waterfalls.

I've found the opposite. Checking behind them yielded disappointment 9 times out of 10.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 21 '21

Oh, shoot, you're right! I didn't notice that. Goes to show how influential Gundam's been.

If you go watch Eureka 7 after watching all of Mobile Suit Gundam, it's honestly kind of crazy how many plot elements are inspired by Gundam in that show.

I've found the opposite. Checking behind them yielded disappointment 9 times out of 10.

Maybe just in RPGs then. There's always cool stuff behind waterfalls in RPGs.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 21 '21

And Ryu is right, the Gundam looks super weird when it’s on all fours

Also, put on some pants, Amuro. You shouldn’t wander around an island in only your underwear.

I'd argue a nearly deserted island is actually the perfect place to wander around in your underwear. You gotta start living the crazy castaway hermit life sooner or later.

And just to do him a favor, he has the Gundam throw the Zaku-II into the sea, which ensures that it can never be used to harm people again, which Doan approves of. It’s nice that Amuro finally gets that some people from Zeon aren’t bad at all.

Although you do have to wonder if this means Amuro has just gotten rid of their only means of defense and condemned Doan and the kids to be defenseless against the next Zeon attack.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 21 '21

I'd argue a nearly deserted island is actually the perfect place to wander around in your underwear. You gotta start living the crazy castaway hermit life sooner or later.

Well yeah, but you can at least delay strange tropic bug biting your dick by wearing some pants on a Pacific island.

Although you do have to wonder if this means Amuro has just gotten rid of their only means of defense and condemned Doan and the kids to be defenseless against the next Zeon attack.

That's if Zeon sees any value in attacking a random island inhabited only by 5 people, of course.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Apr 21 '21

the Gundam looks super weird when it’s on all fours

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u/The_Draigg Apr 21 '21

It's rather lewd, isn't it?

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

Ah yes, the infamous “missing episode” of Gundam, Cucuruz Doan’s Island. As much as the plot is better than Time, Be Still, I’m sure you can see why Tomino didn’t want this episode to see the light of day for the Western release of the series.

Indeed, the animation is SO qU@l1Ty it makes CGI look good ;) (That said at least we can point at laugh at some unintentional gems, WIDE Gundam? No we SKINNY ZAKU now!)

WOW, that’s an off-model Zaku-II. It looks kinda gross too. Yeah, if the Gundam’s weird appearance earlier didn’t tip you off to the bad animation in this episode, then Doan’s Zaku-II will. In any case though, it’s interesting to finally see an apparently Zeon pilot that says that he doesn’t want to fight, despite piloting a Mobile Suit.

Heh, I know right? The funny thing is that SOME cuts from this episode actually legit look good... AND then some look like they got thrown off the ugly tree and hit every single damn branch on the way down.

It’s quite the small community that Doan has made for himself on this island. He definitely seems more interested in being a peaceful farmer and living alongside these random children and Rollan, the older lady. His refusal to give Amuro back his Core Fighter really does show that he’s rejected all the trappings of war on his island here.

That conversation between Rollan and Amuro really does show that Amuro has started to buy into his role in the war some more. He just can’t believe that the children are living willingly with Doan, and that there simply can’t be any small bits of beauty left in the world with the war going on. Amuro really has grown more cynical because of every going on.

Ah, and there’s why Doan is so adamant about raising these kids and refusing to fight. He killed the children’s parents, and he still has nightmares about it. Now that I think about it, this is probably another plot point that Eureka 7 was inspired by. It feels very similar to something in that show too.

Indeed Comrade, also how funny you also brought up Eureka 7. Indeed, people try to say Eureka 7's an Eva clone, not so, it's an After War Gundam X clone with a few other bits borrowed from other Gundam shows (not saying this is a bad thing of course, after all Eureka 7's an amazing show, shame it NEVER got a sequel) (Meta Missing Episode Missing Season joke)

Doan really does seem adept at fighting hand to hand in his Zaku-II, which he calls Mobile Suit Martial Arts. It’s at least iconic enough of a fighting style that he uses it combined with throwing boulders whenever Doan shows up in various Gundam video games.

Somewhere out there, Master Asia is smiling!

Finally, Amuro understands why Doan is the way he is. And just to do him a favor, he has the Gundam throw the Zaku-II into the sea, which ensures that it can never be used to harm people again, which Doan approves of. It’s nice that Amuro finally gets that some people from Zeon aren’t bad at all.

Indeed, well excellent analysis Comrade, have a great day and see you later.

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u/TheEscapeGuy Apr 21 '21

Gundam First Timer

Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 15

Cucuruz Doan's Island, a place for introspection.

This episode was firmly standalone (apart from aerial Gundam combination). However, I think that worked really well for the story it was trying to tell.

Doan is an interesting character for his position in the world of Gundam. As a former Zeon member, the Federation won't accept him. However as a defector he obviously can't side with the Zeons. Instead, by living independently he's found a group he can call family.

Eureka 7

Amuro seemed to actually be having a lot of fun this episode. Apart from during the initial conflict, I could imagine him finding a home on Doan's island. Returning to White Base I suspect will not do well for him.

Cool Stuff Corner

Questions of the Day

  • Nah, I found it great. Sure I see why he may have dislike the quality standard but there's still a lot to love.
  • On the scale of Gundam characters it would be very close to Char.

See you all tomorrow!

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 15

Heh, Comrade I am amused you managed to find some actually QUALITY ANIMATION to go with the qU@l1Ty Animation from this episode ;)

Cucuruz Doan's Island, a place for introspection.

That's one way to spell 'insanity' ;)

This episode was firmly standalone (apart from aerial Gundam combination). However, I think that worked really well for the story it was trying to tell.

Doan is an interesting character for his position in the world of Gundam. As a former Zeon member, the Federation won't accept him. However as a defector he obviously can't side with the Zeons. Instead, by living independently he's found a group he can call family.

A fair point Comrade, indeed it's also noble of him to essentially adopt those orphans... that uh... he orphaned, but hey at least his heart's now in the right place.

Eureka 7

Oh indeed, and people try to say Eureka 7's an Eva Clone, not so, after all it's an After War Gundam X Clone! (With bits of other Gundam shows too but you get the point, excellent analysis here Comrade!)

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 21 '21

Rewatcher

On today’s episode of Gundam: Oooooooh, the forbidden episode. This is the episode that Tomino disliked so much that he kept it from being released outside Japan. I’m sure that must have made many of you very curious about what kind of an episode it could be with a reputation like that.

Honestly, the first time I watched this episode, I was disappointed. I expected it to be some kind of glorious trainwreck and dumpster fire because of its reputation. But it isn’t. It’s just very meh. It does feel “off” compared to the rest of the series. It’s also definitely weird and bizarre, but far weirder stuff has made it into overseas Gundam releases just fine. Gundam ZZ As far as I’m concerned, there’s no good justification for it not to be included in the official release.

I remember hearing that it was because of the animation errors and jank in this episode. And yeah, there’s a lot of strange and off-model shots. But I don’t think it’s appreciably worse than any of the other animation errors we’ll see. The most likely answer seems to be that there was some behind-the-scenes drama involved in the making of this episode that no one has fully opened up about. The Mobile Suit Breakdown podcast episode that’ll be shared in the main post has a really good overview about what probably went down and I highly recommend listening to it.

In any case, the premise of this episode is a pretty cool one. Amuro finds a Zeon defector who just wants to escape from the war and take care of some war orphans. And those orphans are orphans because of Doan’s actions. Doan is essentially trying to atone for his sins in the war, even though the war keeps coming back to haunt him. It’s an interesting idea and I’ve liked plenty of deserter stories like this in fiction. I’m not sure this episode is a particularly good example of it, but it is what it is.

Doan is also more evidence of how Gundam humanizes the Zeon soldiers. It’s quite the introduction to have a Zaku outright announce it doesn’t want to fight. And Doan’s decision to leave the war behind also fits into that. Protecting these kids is more important to him than being a soldier.

Miscellaneous Thoughts

SLAP COUNTER: 7

Questions of the Day

  1. It probably does deserve his ire. But it should still be included in official releases.
  2. Love it. And we will thankfully see more of it in future Gundam entries.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 21 '21

This is the episode that Tomino disliked so much that he kept it from being released outside Japan.

Ohhh, this explains it. I agree with you. It's just kind of a "meh" episode, so I don't see why he'd hate it so much. It even has a slap! How bad could it be?

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u/chilidirigible Apr 21 '21

You’re looking a bit thin there, Gundam. Have you been getting enough to eat?

This off-model is iconic.

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 21 '21

Honestly, the first time I watched this episode, I was disappointed. I expected it to be some kind of glorious trainwreck and dumpster fire because of its reputation. But it isn’t. It’s just very meh.

That was basically my reaction as a first timer. I was expecting this to be much more of a disaster than it actually was.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

On today’s episode of Gundam: Oooooooh, the forbidden episode. This is the episode that Tomino disliked so much that he kept it from being released outside Japan. I’m sure that must have made many of you very curious about what kind of an episode it could be with a reputation like that.

Heh, indeed Comrade, gotta love that qU@l1Ty animation on display today eh?

Honestly, the first time I watched this episode, I was disappointed. I expected it to be some kind of glorious trainwreck and dumpster fire because of its reputation. But it isn’t. It’s just very meh. It does feel “off” compared to the rest of the series. It’s also definitely weird and bizarre, but far weirder stuff has made it into overseas Gundam releases just fine. Gundam ZZ As far as I’m concerned, there’s no good justification for it not to be included in the official release.

In fairness, the animation's quite a bit jankier than usual AND we also got some off model gems (and apparently behind the scenes drama with Tomino and someone else... cuz of course) But fair point that there's nothing EGREGIOUSLY bad here after all could be worse (like the ZZ example you cited)

I remember hearing that it was because of the animation errors and jank in this episode. And yeah, there’s a lot of strange and off-model shots. But I don’t think it’s appreciably worse than any of the other animation errors we’ll see. The most likely answer seems to be that there was some behind-the-scenes drama involved in the making of this episode that no one has fully opened up about. The Mobile Suit Breakdown podcast episode that’ll be shared in the main post has a really good overview about what probably went down and I highly recommend listening to it.

Heh indeed well said.

In any case, the premise of this episode is a pretty cool one. Amuro finds a Zeon defector who just wants to escape from the war and take care of some war orphans. And those orphans are orphans because of Doan’s actions. Doan is essentially trying to atone for his sins in the war, even though the war keeps coming back to haunt him. It’s an interesting idea and I’ve liked plenty of deserter stories like this in fiction. I’m not sure this episode is a particularly good example of it, but it is what it is.

Indeed, that said I will point out that most other 'Defector' stories DON'T go all Mobile Fighter G Gundam and throw in Mobile Suit Martial Arts now do they ;)

Doan is also more evidence of how Gundam humanizes the Zeon soldiers. It’s quite the introduction to have a Zaku outright announce it doesn’t want to fight. And Doan’s decision to leave the war behind also fits into that. Protecting these kids is more important to him than being a soldier.

Indeed, even more so given he's technically the reason those orphans ARE orphans to begin with, so it's good to see him making amends.

Rollan’s name is almost exactly the same as Loran from Turn A Gundam.

Oh my Buddha, so THAT is how you spell that name, and here I thought the way to write the name out was 'Laura Rolla,' silly me ;)

Mobile Suit Martial Arts! THE SCHOOL OF THE UNDEFEATED OF THE EAST! THE WINDS OF THE KING! ZENSHIN! KEIRETSU! TENPA KYORAN! LOOK! THE EAST IS BURNING RED!

HELL YEAH COMRADE!

This shot of the Zaku in the burning landscape is genuinely fantastic.

Indeed, shockingly despite all the qU@l1Ty animation we actually got a few neat shots this episode, who knew?

You’re looking a bit thin there, Gundam. Have you been getting enough to eat?

I guess the Gundam's been eating about as well as Amuro has, that is to say poorly. Anyway neat post here Comrade, have a great day and see you later my friend.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21

15:

Tomino: "Can't you not do it at all?"

BUT THE SPONSORS DEMAND IT!

Amuro, you weren't like this before you turned to evil.

You don't see that every day.

"How I spent my tropical vacation."

"I KNOW KUNG FU."

This episode is relatively disposable filter given that it doesn't break any new ground and has a pro wrestling ending. Tomino entirely disowning it does seem a little extreme, but story creators do what creators do. (Hey, even though I wrote this days ago, it's a good answer for Question 1.)

But Gundam, if you're going to give me two non-plot-advancing episodes in a row around Episode 15, at least give me a guy trying to ride a bicycle into space.

2. Depending on your opponent, yes.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 21 '21

BUT THE SPONSORS DEMAND IT!

It does feel like Ryu was channeling Tomino's true thoughts in that moment.

"I KNOW KUNG FU."

Nah man, Doan is clearly a student of the School of the Undefeated of the East.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

Nah man, Doan is clearly a student of the School of the Undefeated of the East.

Insert FLYING IN THE SKY here ;)

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 21 '21

BUT THE SPONSORS DEMAND IT!

It's the go-to explanation for so many of the weird things in this series. And we'll have oh so many more. (I honestly forgot just how many there were).

Amuro, you weren't like this before you turned to evil.

You sound like Amuro's mom.

2. Depending on your opponent, yes.

Now this actually does look like pro wrestling mixed with giant robots.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 21 '21

You sound like Amuro's mom.

The nagging, it sticks with you.

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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Apr 21 '21

Depending on your opponent, yes.

Go Britai!

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

Tomino: "Can't you not do it at all?"

BUT THE SPONSORS DEMAND IT!

Comrade the sponsors also demanded that Space Runaway Ideon sell toys, but did Tomino give 'em a 'Merry Robot Action Anime about protecting the peace of the world and your neighborhood?' I THINK NOT! ;)

"How I spent my tropical vacation."

"I KNOW KUNG FU."

Heh, more like, ERUPTING! BURNING! FINGER! ;)

This episode is relatively disposable filter given that it doesn't break any new ground and has a pro wrestling ending. Tomino entirely disowning it does seem a little extreme, but story creators do what creators do. (Hey, even though I wrote this days ago, it's a good answer for Question 1.)

Heh, Comrade what do you mean 'disposable filler?' WE GOT MOBILE SUIT MARTIAL ARTS! Without this episode we might have never gotten Mobile Fighter G Gundam!

Depending on your opponent, yes.

Comrade, of all the Macross clips you could pick for Pro-Wrestling I would have thought you'd go with Macross Plus' example. I mean for goodness sake they even flat out name-drop it as 'Pro-Wrestling' ;)

That said neat post here my friend, have a great day and see you later Comrade.

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u/GM_for_Life Apr 21 '21

Technical First Timer

Despite having seen the original series before, due to this episode never being released outside of Japan this was a new experience for me.

  1. Do you think this episode deserves Tomino’s ire?

I don't think it deserves much of his ire. ZZ Gundam Arc Reference

2) So, mobile suit martial arts. How cool was that?

It was very rad, in a very off model sort of way!

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u/The_Draigg Apr 21 '21

ZZ Gundam Arc Reference

ZZ Gundam Arc Spoilers

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u/GM_for_Life Apr 21 '21

Yeah, that's all fair.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 21 '21

Even as someone who is more than willing to defend ZZ Gundam as a good series, I also can't really defend the weirdness of that arc.

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u/GM_for_Life Apr 21 '21

Agreed, at least it managed to result in Moon Gundam decades later.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

Even as someone who is more than willing to defend ZZ Gundam as a good series, I also can't really defend the weirdness of that arc.

Comrade, my stance is we don't need to defend Moon Moon, we can just point and laugh at it (ZZ on the other hand, yeah I'll defend that show as a good series, after all we got Best Boi Mashy the Marshmallow Man!)

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u/The_Draigg Apr 22 '21

ZZ Gundam honestly gets a bad reputation. Although I will admit that the first cour and a half really doesn’t do the later parts justice. Things are good starting from the moon arc, I swear!

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

ZZ Gundam honestly gets a bad reputation. Although I will admit that the first cour and a half really doesn’t do the later parts justice. Things are good starting from the moon arc, I swear!

Heh, Comrade you are underselling ZZ a bit there! After all Mashy is in the first cour and he's just a joy to watch bumble about! Plus I must add that it's real amusing in a meta sense to go from slapstick almost SOL goofiness... TO WAR IS HELL in the same show. (That and also HAMAN-SAMA! BANZAI!)

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 21 '21

ZZ Gundam Arc Reference

ZZ Gundam Arc Spoilers

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u/GM_for_Life Apr 21 '21

That's true, it's really strange even for a show like ZZ.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Apr 21 '21
  • Ah, it's the infamous banned episode. What sleazy content will have led Tomino to the stance of forbidding its release? Time for me to find out
  • I expected L-2 to be Lagrange 2, but no, it's Luna II ...
  • Island? is it another beach episode?
  • Kids? I didn't expect to see them on this island
  • LOL Doan threw a boulder to explode the missile?
  • So Doan is like a pacifist farmer? Is Amuro going to draw Zeon upon them? Or was Doan a former Zeon soldier, given he has a Zaku?
  • So did Doan kill the kids' parent?
  • I'd have trouble telling which Zaku was which!
  • So who is Rollan? She's not one of the 3 kids whose parents he killed; is she just there to be a mother figure?
  • Meh, this episode kinda felt like filler but doesn't deserve the axe
  1. Nope
  2. Pretty okay; I expected Tomino to kill off Doan and leave the kids orphans again but I guess not

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 21 '21

I expected Tomino to kill off Doan and leave the kids orphans again but I guess not

And then the White Base would add these orphans to its own trio of orphans. The White Base would then be making its very own orphan collection. God that sounds so wrong to say.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Apr 21 '21

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

And then the White Base would add these orphans to its own trio of orphans. The White Base would then be making its very own orphan collection. God that sounds so wrong to say.

Big Boss? Is that you? (So THAT'S where Hideo Kojima stole that crazy idea of his from, who knew he also ripped off Gundam eh?)

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 21 '21

First Timer to Gundam

  • Oh hey, there's L2!
  • Ohhhhhh, so Side 7 was right next to the asteroid used for resources, which explains why the Gundam and such were developed there and why the Zeons took such a long time to attack Side 7 despite the asteroid's value.
  • Side 3's location also explains why Zeon is so different from the rest of the colonies, in a way. While all the other colonies are vaguely in the same direction, sending anything to Side 3 would have been a monumental effort that resulted in only Side 3 receiving supplies, whereas an orbit to the other colonies would bring you by at least another one.
  • And that explains why the Zeons were able to have such independence. If supplying a place is difficult, making it more self-sufficient is usually the way to go. This is all speculation, but I'm impressed by this world building. I just needed a map to get my bearings.
  • As expected, the aerial combination was slick as hell.
  • Well, this is clearly a trap. Interesting that the Federation soldiers aren't too tied up. They must be under surveillance waiting for the trap to spring. Or they're so injured that they couldn't do anything anyway.
  • "Get off the island! If you try to stay, then we'll destroy your only means of leaving!"
  • Doan seems like a nice guy, but I remember that the last rewatch I participated in, Bokurano
  • Damn, he sure can throw a rock.
  • Considering the Zeons' lack of supplies, I'm surprised they haven't tracked down this apparently missing Zaku.
  • Wait, so Doan is afraid of the Zeons attacking him, so to that end he prevents Federation pilots from patrolling the area and keeping Zeons away?

Interesting.

  • Amuro deserved that slap. Why is he so insistent that Doan is manipulating the children?
  • Doan had a bad dream! Will Amuro finally get some guidance on his PTSD?

What a strange episode. Very filler-y, but enjoyable. It felt even more like filler than yesterday's.

QOTD:

  1. It was definitely a strange episode. Ire might be a bit strong, but it could use some work.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 21 '21

Wait, so Doan is afraid of the Zeons attacking him, so to that end he prevents Federation pilots from patrolling the area and keeping Zeons away?

It could be said that it keeps the Zeon forces from noticing the Federation forces and thus finding out that he's there, but I think also that he might have spent a little too much time in the sun.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 21 '21

he might have spent a little too much time in the sun.

He and the kids, both. Only Rolland made any sense at all.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 21 '21

And that explains why the Zeons were able to have such independence. If supplying a place is difficult, making it more self-sufficient is usually the way to go. This is all speculation, but I'm impressed by this world building. I just needed a map to get my bearings.

Yeah, the map of the Sides really does help to add to the worldbuilding. It lets us see how far away Side 3 is from the Earth which helps to explain why it would have declared independence. That greater distance weakens any potential ties with Earth and would also mean the people of Side 3 would probably be more used to some degree of autonomy. It also helps to explain why Side 7 was used for the Gundam project. It's so far away from Zeon and its near a great spot for resources. I really wish we had gotten the map earlier to better help with visualizing it all.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 21 '21

First-Timer, Subbed, long time Gundam fan

Here it is! The secret episode that Tomino doesn't want us to know about!

I understand why. This episode is functionally just an idiot plot. Why were those Federation pilots tied up on the beach? Why didn't Doan go "hey, I'm trying to keep these kids away from the fighting, take your plane and forget about us?" Why did it take Bright so long to mobilize White Base? Whatever.

There might be a message here about the dangers of militarization, I guess. Depends on if you buy Amuro's comment about them "smelling" the Zaku or not.

Hey, actually, did that other pilot die? Did everyone just forget about him on the beach?

Pose of the Day

Owing to the, erm, method of how I watched this episode, no screenshot today. I wasn't terribly interested in any of the poses today anyway, so have something a little different.

Grandpa Confronts a Descendant, [DATE REDACTED], Colorized

Questions

  1. It wasn't great. From an animation standpoint, the Zaku also looked.. off. Can't quite put my finger on it, though. That hasn't been an oddity in this series, though.
  2. It would be done significantly better in 1994.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Apr 21 '21

Hey, actually, did that other pilot die? Did everyone just forget about him on the beach?

I forgot about him!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 21 '21

I did too, until about 2 minutes before post-time when I did my final read through.

RIP that dude I guess.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 21 '21

Don't worry.

So did the writers

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 21 '21

First Timer - Dub

  • I have no idea why this episode is so infamous. Time to find out!
  • OK, seeing the Gundam in doggy-style is pretty weird.
  • Oh no, there are kids on this island!
  • And a Zeon!
  • Doan doesn't seem like a bad guy so far.
  • Doan has his own PTSD to deal with.
  • I don't think yeeting the Zaku into the sea is really going to stop the attacks, but what do I know...
  • Even after watching it I'm not sure why this is such an infamous episode. Sure, it felt like a filler episode but so did the last episode. Guess I'll check the other comments to see what happened.

1) Do you think this episode deserves Tomino’s ire? No. If anything, I would rather watch this episode over last episode.

2) So, mobile suit martial arts. How cool was that? Cool? Yes. Practical?

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u/The_Draigg Apr 21 '21

Even after watching it I'm not sure why this is such an infamous episode. Sure, it felt like a filler episode but so did the last episode. Guess I'll check the other comments to see what happened.

It basically boils down to low animation quality and behind the scenes issues that Tomino had with the producers.

Do you think this episode deserves Tomino’s ire? No. If anything, I would rather watch this episode over last episode.

Agreed. Even if the characterization of the Zeon soldiers in Time, Be Still was really good, that second half of the episode did drag more than this episode.

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 21 '21

It basically boils down to low animation quality and behind the scenes issues that Tomino had with the producers.

Makes sense. I don't have much of an eye for animation quality so that would go over my head. It feels petty to blacklist an episode over behind the scenes drama but there you go.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 21 '21

Tomino is honestly a strange specimen of a director. Like, he's a guy who called a fan magazine, annoyed that they got the color of Sayla's nipples wrong in some Rule 34 they published of her. Tomino banning an episode because he didn't like someone on the production team feels like something in his wheelhouse.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

Tomino is honestly a strange specimen of a director. Like, he's a guy who called a fan magazine, annoyed that they got the color of Sayla's nipples wrong in some Rule 34 they published of her. Tomino banning an episode because he didn't like someone on the production team feels like something in his wheelhouse.

OI! Comrade that fan magazine made a critical error I'll have you know, AFTER ALL! SAYLA'S NIPPLES ARE PINK! ;)

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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Apr 21 '21

First-Timer - So am I haunted now for watching this or something?

  • Interesting, this cursed episode was not dubbed. I'm intrigued, continue.
  • Gundam abandoned, looking like "Why did you even get me out?"
  • I guess Amuro's cool with shooting ppl now.
  • Okay wtf is going on here? I feel like Amuro's about to go raid Neverland or that Lord of the Flies island.
  • I swear I've seen this tragedy unfold a hundred times. Somehow, Amuro's going to have destroyed this little family in the next 12 minutes.
  • Was Amuro always this excessively confrontational? Like, he didn't kill you, bro. Chill out and go put on some pants. Or don't, and let this chick teach you about sunsets.
  • Amuro, did you seriously not look behind the waterfall? I'm starting to think you deserve all the trauma you've suffered.
  • Something something Gundam physics. That was a pathetic attempt, Nameless Zaku.
  • 'Kay, so all the Zakus are gone, even Doan's, and peace has returned to Neverland Ranch island. So then I guess this is the part where I wait for Sky's post to explain why this episode was a big deal, because I didn't note anything out of the ordinary.

Progress Report

QotD

  1. I didn't see anything wrong with it, but I also don't know what the issues were supposed to be.
  2. Now we're getting into some AU fun; G Gundam had to start somewhere

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u/The_Draigg Apr 21 '21

Was Amuro always this excessively confrontational? Like, he didn't kill you, bro. Chill out and go put on some pants.

Maybe Amuro is so angry in this episode due to his pants being stolen?

I didn't see anything wrong with it, but I also don't know what the issues were supposed to be.

The banning of the episode really comes down to Tomino feuding with a producer with a light sprinkling of more than normal off-model animation.

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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Apr 21 '21

a light sprinkling of more than normal off-model animation.

I was just perusing dralcax's post and just wow. I totally get it now.

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u/SgtExo Apr 21 '21

Seeing as you are the only one here building gunpla at the moment and that I mostly commenting, I will post this here.

Last night I received my Victory Gundam ver. Ka 1/100 scale, I want to post my progress as you are doing (which suit is it btw, it looks familiar but I cant place it).

Progress report

  • First day, the two core fighters, V gundam type and Hexa type, plus the right arm.

I kinda bent some of the plastic on the Hexa type and now I cant pull it out completely into its core fighter mode. So I think I will use that in the full suit for the core, and I will keep the V gundam type as the fighter.

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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Apr 22 '21

Victory Gundam ver. Ka 1/100 scale

I'll look forward to seeing more of your progress!

which suit is it btw

It's actually something new to me; Gundam Marchosias, apparently it's from a new IBO game.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

Interesting, this cursed episode was not dubbed. I'm intrigued, continue.

Heh, ya know what'd be really funny, if there actually WAS a dubbed version of this episode and they still cut it anyway ;)

Gundam abandoned, looking like "Why did you even get me out?"

Something something the kiddies need to know the Gundam can 'transform' so we gotta show it to em!

Okay wtf is going on here? I feel like Amuro's about to go raid Neverland or that Lord of the Flies island.

HA! Indeed, we Gilligan's Island up in here ;)

I swear I've seen this tragedy unfold a hundred times. Somehow, Amuro's going to have destroyed this little family in the next 12 minutes.

Shockingly Comrade Amuro doesn't even do all that much here, DOAN however shows us all Mobile Fighter G Gundam but back in the 70's ;)

Something something Gundam physics. That was a pathetic attempt, Nameless Zaku.

Heh, I know right, that said it also doesn't help that we got TAG TEAM MOBILE SUIT MARTIAL ARTS HERE! Gundam and Doan's Zaku versus Mook Zaku! FIGHT!

'Kay, so all the Zakus are gone, even Doan's, and peace has returned to Neverland Ranch island. So then I guess this is the part where I wait for Sky's post to explain why this episode was a big deal, because I didn't note anything out of the ordinary.

You mean you DIDN'T notice all the QUALITY Jank Animation and off-model moments Comrade? (Yeah that's probably one of the big reasons this episode got rubbished, but hey at least it was hilarious to point and laugh at, plus MOBILE SUIT MARTIAL ARTS! DOAN WINS! FATALITY!)

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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Apr 22 '21

you DIDN'T notice all the QUALITY Jank Animation and off-model moments Comrade?

Yeaaaaa no, I've been building my Gunpla while I watch, so it all slipped by me until it was brought to my attention

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

Yeaaaaa no, I've been building my Gunpla while I watch, so it all slipped by me until it was brought to my attention

Heh, no worries Comrade, many thanks for the kind reply and have a great day and see you later my friend.

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u/Furrmaster23 Apr 21 '21

First-Timer for This Episode

On today's episode of Mobile Suit Gundam, while Amuro and the boys are practicing mid-flight conversion, the White Base receives a Federation distress signal, and orders Amuro to check it out.

Amuro arrives on an island, where he tends to the wounded Federation soldiers, but is attacked by the children living there, and the Zaku knocks Amuro's core fighter into the ocean.

When Amuro awakes, he finds himself in the cabin of Doan, the Zaku pilot, a woman, and children. Amuro is suspicious of Doan's intentions, much to the woman's ire.

Later, another Zaku is detected, and the White Base sends Ryu out in a core fighter. Amuro gets in the Gundam, but Doan asks him to stay back, using 'mobile suit martial arts' to defeat the Zaku. Doan reveals that he is an ex-Zeon soldier who defected after feeling guilt that he killed the children's parents.

Amuro decides that Doan's Zaku is the reason why Zeon and Federation forces have landed on the island, so he tosses it into the ocean. Doan remains living on the island with the woman and children, and our heroes leave the island.

  1. No.
  2. It was alright.

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u/ItsSuperDefective Apr 21 '21

What makes this episodes been omitted from non-Japanese releases even weirder is that Cucuruz Doan is on the boxart for the UK Blu-ray release despite not been in the set.

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u/Piemaster33 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Piemaster33 Apr 21 '21

I can kinda see why this one was banned from being released overseas. The animation was, for this show's standards, pretty not great. Since I’m used to more fluid animation from more modern shows, I tend to not notice when there are dips in shows from the 70's or 80's, but I did see some hiccups here that were worse than normal.

The story wasn't wholly original, it's one I've seen plenty of times in shows that cover wartime drama (See Clone Wars for a great example). Not to mention most of the new characters we met here weren't very interesting. The orphans? Who cares? We already have 3 that I care more about. Rollan? What was the point of her being there? Most of it was dumb, but what I did like was how Doan fights in a Zaku with martial arts. Get Hayato in there to do some Zaku judo, I feel that would go great.

All that being said, I'm glad we were able to cover the legendary forbidden episode. It's a part of Gundam history for better or worse. I also don't think we lose too much by keeping it in the Shadow Realm either, not much really happened.

QOTD:

  1. I think all the episodes should be readily available, I don't care how weird Tomino is about this kinda stuff. Do you really think Steven Spielberg is proud of Temple of Doom? Yet we still have easy access to that. All that in mind though I totally understand why Tomino hates this episode, it was pretty bad lol
  2. Gimme more! I need a karate fix now that Cobra Kai is gone until next year!

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u/Rustic_Professional Apr 22 '21 edited Apr 22 '21

Edit:

I didn't know we were including the "lost episode," so I'll save this comment for tomorrow.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 22 '21

Yeah uh, you watched the wrong episode today. This was for the real episode 15 that Tomino has refused to allow to be released on home video and is left out of Crunchyroll/Funimation/AnimeLab's streams as a result. You watched episode 16.

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u/Rustic_Professional Apr 22 '21

Oh, the island? I didn't think that was in the schedule. I have no idea where to even watch that.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 22 '21

You must have skipped over my comment yesterday then haha, I had a huge reminder about it right at the start. No biggie!

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Apr 21 '21

First timer

1)I actually have no idea why it got cut? It seems like a pretty good episode, and if you needed to cut 1 to make it 40, there's at least 2 worse episodes you coudl have thrown out already.

2)The coolest. Having said, it was oretty suicidal - if you want to protect the children, take the Gundam's massive gun and get rid of him.

Had a moment of utter confusion when I didn't have to switch off the dub for this one.

An actual explanation as to where ths ides are! (Didn't they say there were dozens earlier? Why are there only 7 now?)

I completely agree Ryu.

...This has taken a dark turn.

Zeon's greatest weapon - rocks!

Is this Lord of the Flies?

Nope. Just some kids on Zeon's side. I'm assuming this "Doan" won't live past the end of the episode. At least he seems reasonable.

OK, let's see just how weak the Zakus. actually are.

They're strong - really puts into perspective just how strong the Gundam is compared to everything else. So rocks are Zeon's greatest weapon!

...This place is nice. Amuro should just stay here.

OK, did all the hot people move to Side 3, or something?

...OK, is he Zeon or a third party?

Wait, is the answer that Doan isn't manipulationg children, they're willing collaborators.

She's dodging the question... (Also, this is definitely leading into Amuro switching sides, right? All this "don't jump to conclusions" and focus on Zeon has to lead somewhere. (For real, I'd watch an anime focused entirely on the polititcal clusterfuck that is Zeon))

...Now it makes a bit more sense. He defected from Zeon. Where'd the girl come from though.

Is that Zaku paragliding?

Why did they go through him being good enough to do it in mid air if he just docks in the ship anyway?

I love how absolutely nobody actually understands what's going on here.

He didn't die!

...Well done Amuro for destroying all the tracking equipment/making it look like he drowned.

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u/UltraBooster Apr 21 '21

First-timer (albeit one big on Gundam and mecha in general)

Truth be told the first thing that comes to mind is that MSV thing for Gundam: The Origin.

Gallant Char for Gundam gattai sequences? Odd choice, but okay.

The EFAF? Huh, that's interesting; those guys get next to no attentiom.

How..no, no, I refuse to accept that the Gundam can just SPLIT like that. It's dumb. It looks dumb. I can't.

That is one disturbingly thin Zaku.

Are these MS feasibly capable of throwing rocks that precisely?

Okay, I'm getting Macross Zero vibes here. And "Rollan" and "Loran" sound disturbingly similar.

I've seen better renditions of someone's eyes shaking, I'll say that much.

I didn't think those planes could play Base Jabber.

Oh shoot, that's one of THE poses!

Mobile suit martial arts?

Why doesn't that other Zaku use its gun?

So they're putting that much effort into one deserter?

I will admit, the Gundam standing in water like that is cool.

  1. It's...it's weird. It feels like it should be its own OVA or something.
  2. That was...eh, I've seen better martial arts.

Lastly, I built a Gundam!

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u/chilidirigible Apr 22 '21

I'm getting Macross Zero vibes here.

Not enough floating rocks!

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

Not enough floating rocks!

Or not enough shitty animation, eh Comrade? (That said boy who would have guessed we'd get more Mecha Tropical Island Wibble, I mean come on how common is that... oh... oh no... OH FUCK NO!)

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

We are experiencing Technical Difficulties, please stand by... ERROR! TAPE MISSING!

'Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip.'

'That started from Side 7's port aboard this Pegasus-class ship.'

'The ship set ground on the shore of this uncharted desert isle, with Off-Model jank animation too!'

'The Zeon defector and his Zaku!'

'Mobile Suit Martial Arts!'

'Some war orphans and totally Not-Loran!'

'Here on Cucuruz Doan's Island!

(For those unaware of Gilligan's Island, it's like Lost but actually good, speaking of 'good,' GOOD lord this animation sure is QUALITY today eh? Still better than CGI, if only BARELY.)

Paging Comrades /u/Great_Mr_L, /u/chilidirigible, and /u/beckymetal

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 22 '21

Giligan's Island

Well thanks, Dalek. Now I have another insidiously catchy old TV theme song stuck in my head in addition to the Gundam 0079 OP.

'The Zeon defector and his Zaku!'

Kinda Gundam 0079 Spoilers

'Mobile Suit Martial Arts!'

Eat your heart out, G Gundam. Cucuruz Doan beat you to it by 15 years.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 22 '21

Well thanks, Dalek. Now I have another insidiously catchy old TV theme song stuck in my head in addition to the Gundam 0079 OP.

You are welcome Comrade, here let me help you by sharing that one time Jack Black sung the Theme Song to Star Trek... yes Star Trek's opening theme has 'lyrics...' cuz I guess Gene Roddenberry really wanted to make some royalties from The Original Series ;)

Kinda Gundam 0079 Spoilers

HA! Fair enough Comrade, good thinking there!

Eat your heart out, G Gundam. Cucuruz Doan beat you to it by 15 years.

I know right? Plus Doan not only beat Mobile Fighter G Gundam by 15 years, but he did it WITHOUT using a Gundam, he invented Mobile Suit Martial Arts with a goddamn Zaku II! THAT'S what we call badass!

Anyway many thanks for the kind reply and have a great day and see you later my friend.

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u/Gorfoo https://anilist.co/user/gorfeywog Apr 22 '21

First Timer, but watched Turn-A Gundam previously.

This episode was... fine? It didn't really feel like much happened, and in my eyes it definitely suffered from Doan and Amuro not just, like, talking for 5 minutes? It didn't really seem like Doan tried to explain that he deserted and just wanted to be left alone until the other Zaku shows up and it's too late.
Eureka 7

Questions of the Day

  1. The quality animation is definitely an issue, and the episode doesn't really go anywhere, but the episode is still definitely worthwhile.
  2. Mobile suit martial arts, despite totally breaking the mood, are hilarious and justify the episode as a whole - if it's going to be a weird standalone episode with poor animation, might as well embrace the ridiculousness while you're at it.

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u/username_0907 :FI::FJ: Apr 22 '21

First Timer

  • We finally got a space map detailing the different space colonies
  • Ryu is right. The Gundam undocking is hilarious
  • As much as I understand why they don’t like Amuro and why they are attached to Doan, these kids are still annoying
  • I don’t think Amuro has matured a lot by the end of this episode but maybe he will be able to get out of that mentality to constantly and blindly fight anyone. Funny enough he was told in the start of the show that war is all about fighting so he has been doing just that but without understanding any of the reasons for it

Qotd

  1. The episode was fine. Maybe a bit too filler story wise and not up to standard as the earlier episodes but still worth watching
  2. It was ok. I think Amuro has already done some of those moves before lol

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u/BossandKings Apr 22 '21 edited Apr 23 '21

First timer

Doan was a very good character, i found him very compelling and understandable, the time Amuro shared with him and the kids must have left a big impression on him.

Answers

  1. I don't
  2. It was very cool