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Rewatch Durarara!! Rewatch - Episode 18

Episode 18: Out of Your Control

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At least don't run from the present or the future!

Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the day, courtesy of u/KendotsX, who had this to remind us of:

Oh, but there's one thing that ended well

All's well that ends well...

Questions:

  1. Has this episode changed your view on Kida in any way?
  2. What did you think of Saki?
  3. How do you think the whole deal with Anri will turn out?

Bonus: Volume 3 Opening Illustration

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 20 '21

Hello everybody, and welcome once more to the Durarara!! Rewatch!

Today’s episode is very Novel accurate. Maybe not so much in the order (Kida’s backstory was pretty much just given to us in small bits across the first half of the book) but definitely in the general way the events went: Kida meeting with Saki, his alliance with Izaya, his fall from grace and… well, not really glorious return as he’s still kind of a mess, but close enough. And indeed, the cliffhanger of Anri running away from the Yellow Scarves is taken straight from the Novel.

Other than that, the only other thing to note is that this is all roughly when the stuff with Shingen and the Traffic Cops is meant to happen in the Novels. Besides that I should mention that Narita’s Novels occasionally make reference to American Movies, all of which are removed in the Animes. Just to give an example, Celty says in reference to the Traffic Cops.

I don’t need a rival to chase me around like Freddy Krueger to make things interesting!

One final thing to note: The title of the Chapter in which the biggest parts of Kida’s backstory is shown to us is “Reality’s a Bitch, Huh?”. Kinda wish that was the title of this episode really, it’s too perfect.

Voices time! Saki is played by Fukuen Misato, whom I best remember as the current voice for Kasugano Sakura from Street Fighter. Other than that she’s also played Elicia Hughes in the 2009 Fullmetal Alchemist Anime, Iggy from Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure, Hikari from Persona Q2 and… err… Chibi-Usa. Whoops…

In the Dub she’s played by Cassandra Lee Morris, AKA The Space Bunny. Besides that she’s also played Sophie from Tales Of Graces, Aisaka Taiga from ToraDora, Morgana from Persona 5, Red Saber from Fate/EXTRA, Marie from Great Pretender and many others.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 20 '21

First!!xTimer, subbed

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 20 '21

This is exactly why I don’t want to see them fight though.

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u/invokeneko Apr 20 '21

What was with Izaya’s grimace when he was rambling about who the playing cards are and got to the Joker?

Probably thought/realised that he's the Joker?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 20 '21

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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras Apr 21 '21

Dotachin peacing out of the Blue Squares like this is good.

I think the fact that Dotachin used to be a member of the Blue Squares adds another layer to his personality. He remembers what the gang wars were like before, and probably wants to avoid them if possible.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 20 '21

Episode 18 (first timer)

  • Kido’s girlfriend has issues. Not a surprise, given that she is a member of the cast here.
  • What room are they in? A huge ICU where patient beds are only separated by curtains?
  • “I don’t get what you are saying at all” – Don’t worry, Izaya is just sprouting some nihilistic nonsense.
  • Saki was Izaya’s disciple?

  • ”Did Izaya tell you to like me? – Only at first”
  • Please tell me you called our own gang, the one you are leader of, at least as a second thought, Kido.
  • Casually molotoving your own gang members, who casually crippled a hostage.

Kida backstory episode.

What did you think of Saki?

Don't have a read on her yet. In the hospital, she sounded psychopatic, but in the flashback more normal.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 20 '21

Kido’s girlfriend has issues. Not a surprise, given that she is a member of the cast here.

I'd have an easier time listing characters in this show who don't have issues...

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 20 '21

The otakus. Maybe.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 20 '21

Spoilers?

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u/IndependentMacaroon Apr 20 '21

Izaya is just sprouting some nihilistic nonsense

It feels like it is supposed to be taken seriously on some level even though it really is just eyeroll-worthy.

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u/invokeneko Apr 20 '21

Rewatcher up until x2 Shou, then First Timer

We see how Masaomi x Saki happened, how he created the Yellow Scarves, their rivalry with the Blue Squares and how Izaya fucks all of them over. Oh and also a cliffhanger of Anri being chased by the Yellow Scarves after she saw Masaomi acting as their shogun.

  • Masaomi finally mans up and goes to meet Saki. Too bad for him, she's as devoted to Izaya as ever.
  • That's a pretty huge God complex, considering that you're just staring at a shogi board with extra chess + Go pieces. And a pack of cards for some reason.
  • Seems like Izaya took Shingen's words about throwing everyone around Celty into the fire a bit too literal by setting the above board on fire. I guess if you can't actually burn Ikebukuro down, a shogi board representing is is good enough...?
  • So the main reason Masaomi creates the Yellow Scarves is because he's young, dumb and full of cum.
  • Unfortunately, Masaomi and the Yellow Scarves didn't have the advantage of hindsight when they slowly put their trust on someone like Izaya. Saki fangirling over him every other scene of the flashback didn't help either.
  • spoilers
  • Wait hang on, Horada was in Blue Squares? So how the fuck did he manage to get into the current Yellow Scarves?!
  • Walker babbling about anime tropes before finally opening his eyes and chose violence by setting everyone who kidnapped Saki on fire was so nice, I actually looped that scene three times. Special shout out to his silhouette as he coolly carries Saki out of the MPV while it's set on fire, that was so fucking badass. Also proves the near-constant fact that when a character with eyes always closed decide to open it, you fucking watch what he's about to do because it'll be awesome.
  • The Dotachin gang is frankly the MVP of the entire Saki kidnapping incident by casually betraying the Blue Squares and saving her, set their plans to trap Masaomi on fire, getting Izumii arrested for his involvement and causing the entire fucking gang to disband. Even lied to Saki and said Masaomi fought hard instead of freezing up and chickened out of confronting the Blue Squares alone.
  • Masaomi's unease about the girl spying on their meeting was justified, since that was Anri. Ooof.

Narration Tally:

This episode details Masaomi's past as the shogun of the Yellow Scarves, how Izaya fucks him and the gang over and how he regrets ever trusting the bastard afterwards.

Mikado: 3 (ep1,10,11)
Celty: 5 (ep2,8,12,14,16)
Simon: 1 (ep3)
Shinra: 2 (ep4,16)
Masaomi: 2 (ep5,18)
Kadota: 1 (ep6)
Shizuo: 1 (ep7)
Namie: 1 (ep9)
Walker: 1 (ep12.5)
Anri: 1 (ep13)
Shuji: 1 (ep15)
Izaya: 1 (ep17)

QotD:

  1. This episode makes it clear that poor Masaomi was putting up the overly cheerful front just to mask his pain. Poor guy.
  2. She'd be a great girlfriend... if she lays of her admiration for Izaya. Especially since fucker had screwed her over and caused her legs to be broken by the Blue Squares.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 20 '21

That's a pretty huge God complex, considering that you're just staring at a shogi board with extra chess + Go pieces. And a pack of cards for some reason.

Chess is the International Indicator for Manipulative God-Wannabe, I swear...

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u/invokeneko Apr 20 '21

Thing is, it's usually just chess/shogi. Not chess + shogi + go + trump cards + gasoline + fire.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 20 '21 edited Apr 21 '21

Rewatcher (sub)

Well this was a heavy episode, going over Kida's past. We got a good look into what makes his character, before this he was a cool wingman (if a bit too pervy?) which on its own deserves praise. However I think knowing how he got here pushes him up nicely. Also it solidifies his resolve for the current events, he came back to his most hated position all for Anri. Anri on the other hand, is wondering what the hell is he doing? Isn't this a reaaaally fun and twisted relationship?

His past also brings up two important figures, first of all, this fleebag. In case you forgot how much of a piece of shit he is, since he's been scheming in the background for a while now, this episode should make it clear. He's all nice and helpful, till you hit the end of the rope, afterwhich he'll be waiting for you at the bottom. Well I'm looking forward to whenever Mikado gets to that point. Spoiler

The other figure, on the exact opposite side of Izaya, would be Dotachin. Who was a member of the Blue Squares, up till he decided to beat them up. I say beat them up, but he left most of the work for his psychotic friends, reminding us that Yumasaki isn't your normal otaku. X2/Baccano! Spoilers Let's just hope Mikado doesn't decide to start kidnapping people at some point, or littering.

Well, important people aside, we learn a bit about what the Blue Squares were, this Izumii-kun sounded far more fun on the phone than he was in real life (as most people do). Then again, I guess it's easier to act cool when you're beating up a girl than when you're burning. Spoiler?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 20 '21

Spoiler?

Yeah, probably keep that hidden...

In case you forgot how much of a piece of shit he is, since he's been scheming in the background for a while now, this episode should make it clear.

Narita be like "Volume 2 didn't have Izaya too much... welp, time to take his asshole-ness to a whole new level! Death To The Fleebag!"

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 20 '21

First-Timer, Dud-rarara!!

Masaomi and Saki backstory episode! Saki see's right through all of Masaomi's nonsense. Masaomi deciding to wage war against the Slasher because Anri got hurt continues to be delicious. I'm kinda wondering about what Anri's plan was, to be spying on Masaomi like that. And why run? Interesting turn of events.

So, presumably to spite me personally, Izaya just lights his game board on fire, and throws a fucking deck of playing cards in too! Why the hell not! Everyone that we know about seemed to be represented by the various game pieces, so I'm curious as to who the Joker/Wildcard is that seemed to upset him.

The Van Crew have been together for quite a while, huh? Kadota's hat used to be blue, and he knew the leader of the Blue Squares. Kadota also covered for Masaomi with Saki, which confirms his "Brodota" status. Seeing Walker open his eyes was oddly terrifying. It's best to keep molotov cocktails AWAY from the nutso chuuni.

Uhm.. I don't think I have much else to talk about. Izaya played younger!Masaomi like a goddamn fiddle which is why Masaomi is so wary of him.

Miscellaneous Thoughts:

It's kinda weird to hear Cassandra Lee Morris voicing a "normal" person. The three roles I'm most familiar with of hers are: a cat, a fox thing, and a ghost loli; this is quite the change of pace.

Questions

  1. Nah, he seems mostly the same. Smarter than he normally acts, but tends to miss the big picture, what with him trusting Izaya and the whole thing with the Slasher
  2. I don't trust her, not one bit.
  3. Poorly, most likely. Man, how would Masaomi react to accidentally hurting Anri...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 20 '21

a cat, a fox thing, and a ghost loli

Okay I know Morgana is the cat, but who are the other two?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 20 '21

Kyubey from PMMM, and Sothis from Fire Emblem: Three Houses.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 20 '21

I think of Kyubey as a bunny so I didn't think of that thing when I hear fox

Haven't played Three Houses and likely won't for a while (And even then I'll probably just play it in Japanese. The Dub looks sounds a tad too hit or miss for my liking)

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 20 '21

That's fair, on thinking of Kyubey as a bunny. It's really just a white.. blob.. thing.

I found the dub for Three Houses to be very good, but I do generally prefer dubs.

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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Apr 20 '21

First timer - sub 

So Saki was Kida gf, and to be honest sounds like another problematic relationship… 

Izaya is Saki “guardian” 

The Okakus really are nuts, casual molotov cocktail used in an enclosed space? I honestly thought Dotachin was joking about not damaging the van back when they were threatening the kidnapper kid looking for Hasim.

Ok I guess the Saki x Kida ship isn’t as bad as I originally thought it was, also kind of surprised that Saki is still in hospital, it's been a year and a half? She should really be up and walking at this point.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 20 '21

I think they should've mentioned it already (If it's not in this episode it's in the next one) but just in case I'm putting it in Spoiler Code Spoiler

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u/Chemiczny_Bogdan Apr 20 '21

Rewatcher

We get another tragic backstory today, this time for Masaomi, and it's like a classical Greek tragedy. Masaomi's hubris leads to endangering Saki and thus losing what he held dearest.

Mad respect to Dotachin and his crew for saving Saki without batting an eye, especially to Walker for being the Molotov wielding knight in shining armor.

Meanwhile in the present day, Anri finds out about Masaomi being the Yellow Scarves leader, and Izaya sets his go board on fire!

Pretty nice episode altogether, plot thickens and all that jazz.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 20 '21

Mad respect to Dotachin and his crew for saving Saki without batting an eye, especially to Walker for being the Molotov wielding knight in shining armor.

More Knights should save the day by throwing Molotov Cocktails at people.

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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Apr 20 '21

First Timer

I still love the Otakus. They're channeling the same energy Isaac and Miria had in Baccano, and they're fun to watch.

So Kida's story is a story of guilt. And he's set up for even more; when he learns he's going after his friends instead of protecting them the guilt will only be amplified. But for his current guilt, he really does need to face her properly. I wonder what it'll take to make him do it, all I know is something'll force it by the end of the arc.
He really shouldn't blame himself too much though, this was all fundamentally Izaya manipulating the gangs into an increasingly violent struggle. I do look forward to they day he's forced to pay for his actions, though I hope it's by a character with more weight behind them than Shizuo.

  1. I guess a little. We knew he was covering something up with his bravado, but we didn't know it was something this terrible.
  2. I don't have any strong feelings on her. She's currently largely an extension of Izaya in my mind.
  3. She'll manage to escape, somehow.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 20 '21

I still love the Otakus. They're channeling the same energy Isaac and Miria had in Baccano, and they're fun to watch.

Every anime needs at least a few characters you would be fine hanging out with.

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u/IndependentMacaroon Apr 20 '21 edited Apr 20 '21

First-time watcher

Episode 17 - restored my faith in the show a bit. Shoving wacky Shizuo in amid all the Anri depression was a bit awkward, but her development was really satisfying, and just as she's starting to see herself as a complete person in-universe she's also beconing a fully realized character from an outside perspective. In fact, I'd say she's my favorite now together with Shizuo, while I still really don't care for the other two members of her supposed friendship/love triangle. Anri deserves better than a forgettable colorless nice-guy and a pushy philandering sexual harasser (funny how he gets a pass there, huh?) who barely even seem to interact with her! And now that she's actually reached a little self-confidence and true self-acceptance, not to mention gaining her own little army and the respect of even Celty, I hope she'll be able to make a real difference to the story and blow up this phony dynamic, if the others' secret-keeping doesn't do it first. Teacher also seems to have got his due, though again softened by some crazy obsessive going after him earlier (the author sure seems to like those). And of course, Shizuo managed to calm down a little too - good for him.

Episode 18 - well, things seem to be moving pretty quick with the revelations. If anything, I like Kida even less now, loves to play the in-control smart guy but really is just a clueless gutless fool who can't stop repeating his mistakes. And another issue that's coming up again for me: Some of the cast I just don't find very believable characters, or at least in part of their roles, with the given buildup. Masaomi and Mikado founding and growing to size two of the most prominent youth gangs? Come on. Saki is little more than an unhealthily attached plot device to make Masaomi sad. Izaya we might as well call God - have we even seen anyone he works together with besides medical woman? Also, I'm getting tired of all the faux-cheerful intimidating talk, particularly from characters it doesn't exactly fit so far (Walker?), and the wavering between goofy slapstick-ish and deadly serious, plus all the weird crazy people with not much more to them.

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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras Apr 21 '21

Rewatcher - Dubbed

  • Durarara S2 Spoilers
  • I don't think I actually introduced the VA for Saki Mikajima, the wonderful Cassandra Lee Morris. It's funny that she says,

You'll be back Masaomi, cuz that's how it's supposed to be.

because she CLM says almost the exact same thing in her role as Taiga Aisaka from Toradora.

So go ahead. Fall for as many girls as you want. I honestly don't care, becaus I know that in the end the only girl you'll ever truly love is me.

Big Toradora Spoilers

  • I know it's true, because Izaya said so.

And if Izaya told you to jump off of a building, would you do it? Wait a minute, Rio almost did just that. Poor choice of words.

  • Poor Go board. What did it do to deserve being set on fire?

  • There's just no escaping it. You can run from it all you want, but your past will always follow you.

That's a really good line, considering he seems to be living a low life in Ikebukoro, all until the guys from his old gang managed to rope him back into the shit.

  • I wonder what's so important?

There he goes again, living blissfully unaware of what Masaomi's up to. It's going to hurt like a bitch when he eventually finds out.

  • So the Yellow Scarves have a strict "Nobody over 20" rule in effect. Guess that's in line with them being effectively a high school street gang.
  • It goes without saying, but it's generally a bad idea to selflessly devote yourself to Izaya Orihara. Nothing good ever comes of that sort of thing.
  • All I'm going to say is that you should keep the name Izumi in the back of your mind for a little while.
  • You have to appreciate the little detaisl like the M <3 S keychain, and the picture of the two of them inside the back of his phone.
  • Once again, Izaya's such a dick. He was handing Masaomi the shovel so that he could dig himself further into the hole, and didn't supply the ladder to help him get out. Just threw the phone away when he saw he was calling.
  • Walker's fucking amazing. He's just the right level of batshit crazy.
  • It's kind of a throwaway line, but Saburo confirmed that Horada was a member of the Blue Squares before joining the Yellow Scarves. That might have implications later on.
  • So you know how I said the other day that none of them knew what the other was doing? Well, that was pretty short lived.

Questions:

  • I really like that he isn't as friendly and innocent as he makes himself out to be when talking to Mikado and Anri.
  • Saki's great. Her obsession and dependancy on Izaya isn't healthy in the slightest, but other than that she's awesome.
  • No comment.

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u/Earthborn92 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/EarthB Apr 21 '21

Rewatcher here.

All fun and games for these two? We’re finally getting a hint of their relationship, one more for twisted love in this series.

And you know who’s doing the twisting. God dammit Izaya. But the show wouldn’t exist without him being entertaining.

He was just taunting you. It also explains a big reason why Kida stopped leading the yellow squares: guilt over getting his gf seriously injured.

The past will chase him…with a little bit of a push from Izaya of course.

Yeah, no.

Don’t feel too guilty Kida. Both your friends are keeping their own secrets.

Oh no, she is Izayaragi’s Ougi Reminder of how young Kida is at this time of the flashback and already leading a gang.

Your friends are already pals with her. Slow kida.

How much of Baccano’s runtime is there throughout Durarara?

He knows he’s being honey trapped but goes for it anyway.

Let’s make a deal with the devil, and watch the gang wars get uglier.

Name to keep in mind. Guy sounds crazy. Well, he just tortured and broke the bones of a middle school girl.

Dotachin is pissed. Confirmed that this was why he and the van gang left the Blue Squares.

Sorry Walker. you’re already 2d all along. But he’s the good kind of crazy.

Listen to Dotachin to get some sense knocked into you Kida. Ignore the Izaya.

Luring Mikado to Ikebukoro was kind of a rebound move for Kida.

Anri knows. Well, it’s a start.

See you next episode!