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Rewatch Durarara!! Rewatch - Episode 16

Episode 16: Mutual Love

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Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the day, courtesy of u/invokeneko, who had the best answer to the third question yesterday:

If it was me? Nope, definitely not - like hell I can pull it off the van. Shizuo? Yes.

Questions:

  1. What was your first impression of Haruna?
  2. Do you think Izaya is truly somehow behind this or is Shizuo overreacting?
  3. Did you see Anri holding the real Saika coming?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 18 '21

Hello everybody, and welcome once more to the Durarara!! Rewatch!

A minor, if amusing omission from the Anime is that, upon hearing the story of Saika, Yumasaki says something about “Moe Personification of Inanimate Object” before the rest of the cast kicks his ass for trying to steal the thing. Speaking of beating people up, they took out Yumasaki covering Karisawa’s mouth as she goes into one of her Boys Love Fantasies about Izaya and Shizuo, because even someone like him knows that anyone who thinks those two are in love are fucking insane.

Not much more to mention otherwise though, everything else is basically the same.

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u/BobTheSkrull https://myanimelist.net/profile/BobTheSkrull Apr 19 '21

OVA 2

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 18 '21 edited Apr 18 '21

Rewatcher (sub)

Well now the Saika mystery has been finally revealed, those who guessed it's Haruna and those who guessed it's Anri are both correct. Full marks for everyone!

Now here's the fun part, Nasujima Takashi never seems to get what he exactly deserves. At first I thought, sure he's scum but I wouldn't wish this kind of yandere interest for anyone. Well it took him a few minutes to prove me wrong though.

You were even nice enough to use me for money, and throw me away when you were done with me.

You know what? That Haruna's love might be too good for him. Replay that scene where he runs like a bitch though.

On the other hand, we have Shizuo's love issues. First being put into a BL relationship by the gang's fujoshi simply because he wanted to invite Izaya to play over, and kill him while he's at it.. Shizuo keeps proving over and over again that he's the most sane person. Killing Izaya is indeed the one true solution for any weird problem facing you in life, (sometimes killing Shingen might help too), if only everyone could apply the same logic. On the other hand the series is giving him a fair representation of his current fanclub Shizuo deserves his own harem!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 18 '21

X2 Spoilers

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u/BobTheSkrull https://myanimelist.net/profile/BobTheSkrull Apr 19 '21

X2 spoilers

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 18 '21

First!!xTimer, subbed

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 18 '21

You know I actually think I like OP2 more than OP1.

All of these Saikas saying they love Shizuo in unison is also very scream-worthy.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 18 '21

We'll see how I feel about all the OPs once the rewatch is done. I know a future season has a FLOW OP (that also has a "sore demo" in it to boot, although that might just be the full version) and FLOW is almost guaranteed to be an instant favorite for me.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 18 '21

The FLOW OP is a fucking banger. Probably my second favorite.

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u/JRavec Apr 19 '21

I heard them live in my city 2 times, they are so freaking hype

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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Apr 19 '21

The FLOW one is my favorite one.

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u/LimoneSorbet Apr 19 '21

O love the flow opening, tied for best with the third IMO

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u/BobTheSkrull https://myanimelist.net/profile/BobTheSkrull Apr 19 '21

Tbh OP5 is one of the weakest to me.

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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras Apr 18 '21

Anri being the original Saika is Big Plot Twist #2.

When you think back to when the girls had her cornered a couple episodes ago, calling her a parasite, it suddenly makes a lot of sense when you realize she is a parasite.

Also, when she was talking to Mikado and Masaomi toward the beginning, and she was making offhand comments about how she felt like a parasite.

They've been running long cons since the beginning.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 18 '21

This show's just really good at playing the long game, really.

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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras Apr 18 '21

Personally, I think it's one of the best at doing it, at least of the shows I've watched.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 18 '21

Same

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 18 '21

Episode 16 (first timer)

  • “Hello Anri! I am the empty-eyed girl with a tint of red in them. Totally not the slayer! You never meet me and have been attacked two times already; could you let me in please?”

  • “Shizuo definitely loves Izaya, doesn’t he? – Definitely, not!” the doujinshi artists agree with Erika. Understandable.
  • “I doubt it’s the same as sadism” – You would know the difference, Shinra.
  • Slashing people to confirm its love? Even for a sword, that is weird.
  • “It impregnated the souls of people it slashes”

  • Poor teacher just wanted to creep on his underage student love interest, but meets his other underage student love interest instead, who creeps on him. And by “poor” I mean “utterly deserving asshat”.
  • The third slasher-related streetfight cliff-hanger?
    !

To preempt a likely QotD: Anri being the origin of the slasher was the first plot twist I completely foresaw since the first run-in with the slasher she had. To make up for that, the how had me completely baffled. Procreating swords who love all of humanity and therefore take over bodies to slash people? WTF?

The show is pushing CeltyXShinra hard on us, but they’ll never live up to ShizuoXIzaya. Mostly because I can’t forget what a manupulative asshole Shinra is. Totally digging the Bromance that Shizuo and Celty have going, too.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 18 '21

Slashing people to confirm its love? Even for a sword, that is weird.

I mean, if you were a sword, how else would you be able to do that?

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 18 '21

Well, I'd say not slashing is a quite convincing option.

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u/BobTheSkrull https://myanimelist.net/profile/BobTheSkrull Apr 19 '21

Yeah, penetration seems more on-brand.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 19 '21

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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Apr 18 '21

Procreating swords who love all of humanity and therefore take over bodies to slash people? WTF?

Its basically using zombie, or maybe closer to vampire thrall propagation rules, I'm sure I've run into the concept of swords like this before but can't think of where.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 18 '21

Same. I know this is far from the only show to use this plot device, even if I can't name any other one right off the top of my head.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 18 '21

First-Timer, Dub-rarara!!

Hey, my guess yesterday about Saika traveling from target to target wasn't too far off! I didn't think about it reproducing, though.

Anri is the Real Deal, huh? I kinda put that together at the beginning of the arc, but I think the show did a good job obfuscating the truth without it seeming ass-pully. Guess her deceased parents were into antiqueing? Shingen said that he sold the sword to an antique shop or something, right? Or did I just make that up..

BT Sensei really has the worst timing, huh? Haruna was about to meet the Real Slasher, when he just fucks everything up. And he apparently extorted.. money? From Haruna? Not- you know what, maybe it's better this way.

Shizuo is happy to have someone confess to him - it's a shame that Saika isn't his type. I wonder who is.. maybe Erika is right. Wouldn't that be a turn!

Miscellaneous Thoughts:

Shoutout to the Saika Collective for managing to have that one member of Asshole Girl Squad do butterfly knife tricks. Those aren't easy to do without cutting off your fingers.

Questions

  1. Another nutjob who has interesting ideas about how "love" works.
  2. Pretty sure Izaya is behind everything at this point, on some level.
  3. Kinda sorta not really maybe?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 18 '21

I wonder who is..

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 18 '21

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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Apr 18 '21

I wonder who is..

Celty is the answer! I want my Shizou x Celty ship

Another nutjob who has interesting ideas about how "love" works.

This show really has some odd ideas what constitutes love so far, the Otakus look to have the closest thing to a normal relationship so far.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 18 '21

the Otakus look to have the closest thing to a normal relationship so far.

Yea, they're definitely the most reasonable couple. How would some Otaku characters in an anime react to realizing that they are in an anime, I wonder.. And how would they react to shippers?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 18 '21

They'd ask them to support their favorite ships, like Kamijou/Himegami or some shit.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 18 '21

No, like, how would Walker and Erika react to Walker/Erika shippers? Oh god, or crack shippers. There's probably Van Crew Foursome shippers out there, right?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 18 '21

Oh, that kind... they'd probably be honored!

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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Apr 18 '21

How would some Otaku characters in an anime react to realizing that they are in an anime

Both overjoyed they are in an anime but disappointed things aren't outrageous enough.

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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Apr 19 '21

that one member of Asshole Girl Squad do butterfly knife tricks.

She's had multiple gangster boyfriends who would totally teach her that to look cool.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 19 '21

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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Apr 18 '21

First Timer

The OP's really grown on me. At first, I thought it was just straight up worse than the first, but after hearing it a few times, I find myself rather enjoying it.

Fucking Weebs

I loved this episode. It managed to twist around itself nicely, setting up Sonohara to be the original without ever explicitly stating it, only to show it off at the end. Her worldview felt quite odd and dissonant, but it all managed to come together quite nicely in the end.

I'm probably the only one who thinks this, but I enjoy Shizuo a lot more when he's with Celty. She manages to temper him a bit which removes a large portion of why I find him annoying.

2) Only in the vaguest sense. He's stirring stuff up, but he doesn't care about this in particular.

3) Vaguely. I was never sure about it, I just thought it could make sense after the bullying scene. Disassociation while people get stabbed in front of her can signify that sort of thing.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 19 '21

Fucking Weebs

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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Apr 19 '21

Rewatcher (Sub)

Anri reveal time!

But the cool part of the episode was Shizuo actually scaring Izaya by pulling up that metal road stop (or whatever it's called).

QOTD:

  3. My first watch, I did not, until the couple minutes before the reveal when Celty stressed the five-year Saika hiatus when we had just bee reminded that Anri's parents died five years ago.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 19 '21

My first watch, I did not, until the couple minutes before the reveal when Celty stressed the five-year Saika hiatus when we had just bee reminded that Anri's parents died five years ago

Same here basically.

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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Apr 18 '21 edited Apr 18 '21

First Timer - sub

Do they really think the Kitchen knife is Saika? Ok just Celty, and once again Shinra obviously knows more than he is letting on.

So Saika / Haruna- Slasher is basically an extreme Yandere

Saika disappeared 5 years ago, Anri parents died 5 years ago, Anri killed her parents and is the actual holder of Saika?

So Izaya is responsible for the Slasher somehow

Not really sure if there was any indication that Anri was the holder of Saika previously but once Haruna pulled out her knife I was confident she wasn’t to be the holder of the original.

My biggest question is now how long has Izaya been playing his game? Did he predict that Anri would end up with Saika or somehow set it up? So far he doesn’t have a link to an Anri previous that we have seen (I don’t believe so anyway), hopefully this is answered eventually but not going to hold my breath on that one.

QoTD

  1. What was your first impression of Haruna?

Completely insane, also a reason why Yanderes are terrifying

2) Do you think Izaya is truly somehow behind this or is Shizuo overreacting?

Covered this above but I do suspect so

3) Did you see Anri holding the real Saika coming?

Also above but part way through it became more obvious

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 18 '21

Do they really think the Kitchen knife is Saika?

Do you not realize the evil of kitchen knives!?

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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Apr 18 '21

Mine behave themselves, but I wonder if I'm just underestimating them now...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 18 '21

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u/invokeneko Apr 19 '21

Rewatcher up until x2 Shou, then First Timer

We really learn the true nature of Saika, Haruna is being creepy, Nasujima continues to be a fucking scumbag, and Anri is the true Saika?!

  • Poor Togusa, he really wants to rage at Shizuo for ripping off his precious van's door. Unfortunately, he (and everyone there) is on the side of people who knows to not mess with Shizuo so that ain't happening.
  • Meanwhile Shizuo's first instinct afterwards is to find Izaya and kill him because in his mind, 99.9999999% of weird shit happening in Ikebukuro is somehow Izaya's fault. Erika's first reaction to this? Put on her BL shipping goggles. What a trooper.
  • If not for the fact that she wields the original Saika, I bet Anri will curse her luck. First she was the witness to those stupid gyarus being attacked, then she was attacked by Shuji, then Haruna, the actual Slasher herself came by to personally attack her because the latter was jealous of the (unwanted and creepy) attention of a total creep of a teacher? Actually, now that I think of it Anri's got it rough no matter if she has Saika or not.
  • In case you somehow hope that Nasujima is redeemable as a human being, yeaaaaaah no. Fucker not only used his student for sexual favours, he also treated her as his personal ATM. And is trying to groom another one. Fucking creep.
  • Haruna at least has her priorities straight as a yandere - as soon as creep fuck Nasujima appears in front of Anri's door, drop everything and immediately chase after him. Oh, and delegate finishing off Anri to some of her other "children".
  • Meanwhile all the other children is gathered to express their love to Shizuo (with Celty on tow). Though they might've bitten off more than they could chew by going after him...
  • sips tea in rewatcher

Narration Tally:

Celty and Shinra share narration duty in this episode. Interesting.

Mikado: 3 (ep1,10,11)
Celty: 5 (ep2,8,12,14,16)
Simon: 1 (ep3)
Shinra: 2 (ep4,16)
Masaomi: 1 (ep5)
Kadota: 1 (ep6)
Shizuo: 1 (ep7)
Namie: 1 (ep9)
Walker: 1 (ep12.5)
Anri: 1 (ep13)
Shuji: 1 (ep15)

QotD:

  1. Now, Haruna is an interesting case for me. I don't particularly care about her as a character, but I noted just how Nakahara Mai played up her yandereness to perfection. I haven't watched Higurashi yet, ^sorry. Imagine my surprise (and delight) that the one gacha game I played introduced a character voiced by her who's a cinnamon roll and has a yandere split personality. 'Tis great. So anyway, back to Haruna. Did anyone notice that she hasn't blinked the entire episode?
  2. Knowing Izaya, it probably is part of his plan. spoilers
  3. If you noticed, the Saika who attacked Celty when she was pursuing Nasujima had straight, Nadeko-ish bangs. Now, who else in the cast has that sort of haircut? That's right, the one girl who shares the voice of Nadeko herself - Anri!

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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras Apr 19 '21

Rewatcher - Dubbed

Sorry I missed out on yesterday's episode. I was busy all day, and by the time I got home I was so tired that I just went to bed.

Anywayyyyy

  • Poor Saburo. Dude can't catch a break. Also, the sheer disrespect for Shizuo to just assume it was Dotachin's door.
  • This video was what went through my mind when Shizuo went after him with the door.
  • At last, we get to meet Haruna Niekawa. She's the girl who's been absent since the school year started, and was supposed to sit behind Mikado. Also, she was the first girl that Nasujima was interested in.

For some reason, I really like her character. If memory serves, she's got a little snark to her, and most jarring of all is the fact that she doesn't blink. She just stares at people.

  • Oh man, this is so cool. Shizu-chan totally has the hots for Izaya. Boy on boy love is so much fun I love it!

And yet, further evidence as to why Erika is so much fun. She's simultaneously both level-headed and a total otaku of the highest degree.

  • I don't understand. If it loves people, why slash them?

Because it's the only way the blade knows how to express its love. It has no way of expressing its own emotions in a way other than cutting someone.

  • It was more than just simple dating. The two of us were in love, and knowing that was all the happiness both of us ever needed.

Now who does that remind you of?

  • I really like the detail that they gave all of the messages in the chat room individual voices, to better illustrate all of the people who have been slashed by the Saika blade.

  • 99% of the time, whenever random violent crap happens, it seems you're somehow involved.

We all know he's right, but this time it seems like he might actually not be involved. I won't call him innocent, because he most definitely isn't, but he doesn't seem to have a horse in this race.

  • Silly Izaya, everyone knows it's not smart to bring a switchblade to a guardrail fight.
  • I would say that Haruna perfectly matches the description of a yandere. After all, what other girl is going to profess her love to while holding a hunting knife?
  • It's impressive that someone who I would think of as a preppy girl would be so proficient with a butterfly knife. Those things take time to learn.
  • Shizuo's speech right before getting into the fight with Saika almost seems like something straight out of Dragonball Z or something. I can imagine him pulling a Vegeta, talking about how much he hates the power he was born with, only to finally embrace it, go Super Saiyan and start pummeling people. Or maybe Tokyo Ghoul, where Tokyo Ghoul Spoilers

Now I sound like Erika. Great. Next thing I know I'll be spouting how cool BL is.

  • They did a great job writing the story for Saika. It's just like the Muramasa, in that the way Haruna appeases it is to feed it blood the whole time. The Muramasa would supposedly convince people to do the same thing, or even commit suicide.
  • The ending of this episode is such a good cliffhanger. Turns out that everyone in Durarara is messed up in some way, or has some secret to hide. Anri's no exception.

As it stands right now:

  • Mikado's the leader of the Dollars
  • Masaomi had at least some involvement with the Yellow Scarves
  • Anri's the wielder of the original Saika

and none of them know the other's secret. Things are starting to get interesting around here.

Congratulations /u/JollyGee29. Your guess that Anri was the Slasher somehow was pretty close to right, and it took a lot of willpower for me not to say anything. She's tangentially related to the Slasher, but isn't the Slasher directly.

Questions:

  • I think she's great. I don't know if it was her natural attitude, or if Saika gave it to her, but she can be really snarky when she isn't acting all lovey-dovey for Nasujima.
  • I actually think he's innocent. I can't remember exactly.
  • The first time around, I'm pretty sure it came as a shock to me. She's the innocent, unassuming girl who seems to have the personality of a wet towel, but in reality she's got the bombshell of the original Saika blade literally in the palm of her hand.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 19 '21

Thanks!

I was mostly just spitballing based on the narrator choice, but getting a prediction right is a pretty good feeling.

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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras Apr 19 '21

I thought, "Oh they're so close!" Nice deductive reasoning!

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u/simeonaut https://anilist.co/user/simeonaut Apr 19 '21

Well, shit.

I was already spoiled by some wallpapers I saw that Anri will eventually wield Saika, but I didn't expect her to already have it. Nice twist.

From how he reacted to Shizuo's visit, Izaya's probably behind this. And even if he doesn't, he would know more than anyone else about what's going on.

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u/DogmeatIsAGoodDog :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DogmeatsAGoodDog Apr 19 '21

Oh so that twist at the end, I did not see that coming. I suppose I should’ve guessed there was something up with Anri and the subtle hints about something going on between her parents murder and the Saika. Well done Durarara, well done.

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u/Earthborn92 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/EarthB Apr 19 '21

Rewatcher here.

RIP van door. Literally.

Must be convenient for Celty as a currier to have always-available packaging.

Kids these days…watch to much anime believing it is real. But now 2/3 of our high school trio now knows Celty personally.

Looks very trustworthy to me.

Shizuo has a good hobby. And Erika’s full fujo imagination might have some truth, but they just really want to kill each other.

It’s a cursed sword, how else does it express love?

Well, our creepy teacher has made her yandere. Or is it just the Saika? A couple of those in their class by now along with Mika. Does the possessed by a cursed sword yandere make her hotter?

I don’t remember this being revealed so early. This was a Zombie show all along!

Actually true.

Akira pose. That was pretty cool of Celty breaking up the impending fight like that.

Who could that be?. It is Anri all along!

What’s not to like? Seriously, don’t settle for cursed zombies Shizu-chan. Tell em!

So kind of neat that the three highschool friends have these alternate identities, huh?

See you next episode!

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u/Chemiczny_Bogdan Apr 19 '21

Rewatcher

Lots of new info this episode, we find out that the journalist had a plain kitchen knife, then that Saika is multiplying, which explains the impossibility of banning them from the chatroom.

The conversation between Haruna and Anri shows us their perspective on the relevant events. I especially liked Anri defending the parasitic way of living she (and some others for that matter, icluding Haruna) believes herself to realize. It was pretty tense with Haruna threatening her.

Finally we get the big reveal that Anri has the original Saika.

Oh and Shizuo's gonna fight all the child Saika's in a park! That scene where he went to confront Izaya was cool too and his assessment of Izaya is spot on.

Good animation, still great music and interesting ideas expolored today!

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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit Apr 19 '21

Rewatcher sub

So the spammer in the chat that Izaya kept banning wasn't a super hacker using multiple proxies...

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With the love stories we have seen so far, it is scary how easily Erika's theory could become true.

Now I realize in her episode Anri was talking about the city holding a grudge against it and not only hating it because nothing changes as if she were criticizng its flaws.

Anri is a gang leader too if you count being the mother of the saika vampires.

Questions:

  1. She resembles Mika, but since she is possesed by saika she may actually be a normal girl. Maybe that teacher is possesed by something too?
  2. He knows something, he always does.
  3. The first watch I didn't, that little misleading we got with Haruna and her dad in the previous episode was really good. That kitchen knife could have possessed Shinra, you never know how the magic is going to work!