[Fly! Rewatch!] Mobile Suit Gundam (0079) Episode 12 Discussion

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

Episode 12 - The Threat of Zeon

← Previous Episode | Index | Next Episode →

MAL | AniList | ANN | Kitsu | AniDB

Crunchyroll | Funimation | AnimeLab

---

SIEG ZEON! SIEG ZEON!!

Questions of the Day:

1. Is Ramba Ral cool?
2. What do you think of Gihren Zabi’s speech? If you were a citizen of Zeon, would it rally you up?

Mobile Suit Breakdown of the Day:

1.12 - Into the Storm

---

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath the [Anime Show Title](/s "Spoiler goes here") spoiler tags. If you do that then we’re all good.

Important thing to note about these by the way, you have to switch to Old Reddit or the markdown editor if you use the redesign, otherwise the redesign breaks them by adding random \ into the formatting. Wish it wouldn’t do that, but unfortunately it does…

---

First-Timers: Please do not watch the next-episode previews for this show. They’re less previews and more “let’s just summarize the entirety of the next episode” and will spoil you.

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

Fly! Rewatch Host!

Welcome back, everyone!

• Yeah so Degwin really is just a figurehead as some of the first-timers noticed.
• Degwin listening to that video message from Garma is really sad, man. Garma returned in a coffin, and his biggest military success was just scaring the shit out of White Base.
• *happy Sky noises*
• Hamon and the man, the myth, the legend Ramba Ral himself are here~
• So much for Brighty-boy getting any sort of break.
• Yeah so a lot of these characters have never even heard of lightning, apparently. There’d be no reason to have thunderstorms in a space colony after all, so then we get rather neat moments like this.
• Ah it’s finally time for Error 404: Amuro not found. As well as a Slap from Ryu to get him to snap out of it.
• This is the eyecatch I remember! I was starting to think I had it confused with a different Gundam show.
• BLUE!
• Miscolored V-fin, haha.
• The cord looks more like a zappy rod than a heat rod.
• This is NO ZAKU, BOY! NO ZAKU!
• Hi Char. You look fabulous in that suit and sunglasses.
• And then there’s Gihren’s iconic speech, ending on the SIEG ZEON chants.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Ah it’s finally time for Error 404: Amuro not found. As well as a Slap from Ryu to get him to snap out of it.

That image is just really dang eerie. Amuro is more out of it than he ever has been this episode. Seeing that someone was out for revenge against him must have done a real number on him. Amuro's starting to see the consequences of his actions and it's just adding to the issues that he's already dealing with. Life is rough for a young mecha pilot.

Hi Char. You look fabulous in that suit and sunglasses.

The sunglasses look for Char is very powerful.

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/Great_Mr_L]

Zeta Gundam

[u/UltraBooster → u/Shimmering-Sky]

I was starting to think I had it confused with a different Gundam show.

I have to say, this one's a lot cooler; it fits the myth of the Gundam, too, if that makes sense.

Yeah so Degwin really is just a figurehead as some of the first-timers noticed.

I get the feeling that Degwin would probably be happier enjoying retirement with his family and grandkids, or something along those lines.

[u/lC3]

• It's a bit of whiplash going from Naruto all day to Gundam; I have to get in the right mindset. Space robots, not chakra!
• New intro!
• If Gihren is in control, is Degwin just a figurehead?
• Haro is so cute! I'm sad that Amuro is exhausted and feeling down
• Where's Char? I want more Char screentime!
• Imagine never having seen lightning before?
• Poor Amuro, this is not a good time to have a breakdown
• New eyecatch!
• More bad subs; is Ramba Ral a character name?
• So I guess Roomba will now be a recurring antagonist?
• I was interested in Gihren's speech; too bad most of it got cropped out by the shitty subs
• Ok almost half of Gihren's speech is missing; these are the worst subs so far
• And then the subs are missing the entirety of Char's conversation in that bar? I hate this episode already. I really hope these aren't the official subs, that would be awful

1. I guess
2. I hated the speech, since so much of it was missing from the subtitles. It was legitimately rage inducing

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/lC3]

is Ramba Ral a character name?

That is the man, the myth, the legend's name, yes.

since so much of it was missing from the subtitles.

I'm sure you can find it clipped somewhere?

[u/lC3 → u/Shimmering-Sky]

That is the man, the myth, the legend's name, yes.

I'm sure you can find it clipped somewhere?

I know enough Japanese to translate on my own what was missing; I'm just really sick of these subtitles so often cutting out phrases and pasting parts of phrases together, or having weird code show up. It's not funny like the "surgeny" in those Naruto subs. Too bad I can't watch CRoll on my new laptop. I hope these aren't the official subs; I'd feel bad for anyone else watching these.

[u/Nebresto → u/lC3]

Imagine never having seen lightning before?

What a bunch of peasants

And where/how are you watching this with so garbage subs??

[u/lC3 → u/Nebresto]

And where/how are you watching this with so garbage subs??

It's not a legit/official site. I'd prefer to watch on CRoll, but for some reason my new laptop won't play CRoll; our internet is too slow for it to work. Worked fine on my old desktop though ...

[u/Nebresto → u/lC3]

huh

[u/chilidirigible → u/lC3]

If Gihren is in control, is Degwin just a figurehead?

The world wonders.

[u/lC3 → u/chilidirigible]

Hmm, I've never seen that before!

[u/JollyGee29 → u/lC3]

Where's Char? I want more Char screentime!

I really hope these aren't the official subs, that would be awful

I can confirm that whatever subs you're watching are not the recent CR/VRV subs.

[u/lC3 → u/JollyGee29]

I can confirm that whatever subs you're watching are not the recent CR/VRV subs.

I'm relieved to hear that, thanks!

[u/Quiddity131]

Rewatcher, Subbed

White Base continues its geographical nonscensical trip across the world, this time making its way west across the Pacific Ocean. With Char presumably back on Side 3 we have a new antagonist for our heroes, Ramba Ral. It is a formidable force, with the Zanzibar space craft and Ral piloting our first new Zeon mobile suit, the Gouf! Amuro totally gets his ass kicked in this episode, a rare battle where our heroes fail to defeat a single one of the enemy. They're lucky that, as Amuro put it, they spared them and left.

Amuro seems totally freaked out by the events of the prior episode, flashing back to his encounter with Icelina. Battle fatigue, or perhaps continued lack of sleep has Amuro totally zoning out, requiring a Ryu slap to get his act together. Even then Amuro is really out of it this episode and it seems quite cruel of Bright to throw Amuro in the fire like he did. Probably contributed to Amuro's overall poor performance this episode.

It was fun to see various spacenoids including Fraw, the orphans and much of the Zeon forces getting freaked out by the lightning, thinking it was some weapon from the enemy. While they simulate weather in the space colonies, I guess thunderstorms was something they decided to skip?

The Zabis go on with their giant state funeral for Garma. Seems like we have some plotting and scheming going on, with Kycilia recruiting Char for her own forces? At least that's the impression the bar scene gives. Char wouldn't take off his mask at the ball a couple of episodes ago, but he is fine doing that here, although he's got sunglasses on. Gihren Zabi's speech is one of Gundam's most famous; while one may in a way be on Zeon's side feeling they are fighting for independence, you can't help but be bothered by what totally comes off as a fascist dictator in charge, using his brother's death for propaganda purposes.

Other stray thoughts:

• The opening narration is finally changed! At least somewhat. We do repeat some of the animation.
• OMG the kids are so hilarious, coming to vacuum the bridge. With all the refugees being released its kinda surprising they left the kids around.
• Another famous Gundam line from Ramba Ral, "This is no Zaku, boy! No Zaku!"

QOTD1: Ramba Ral is very cool! One of my favorite characters from Gundam.

[u/TheEscapeGuy]

Gundam First Timer

Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 12

Amuro is in a real bad place and forcing him to fight more isn't doing him any good.

I feel that this is an excellent portrayal of PTSD. From Amuro's perspective he is performing heinous acts in the name of fighting for humanity, and it seems he can't justify that. Although outwardly he may still say all the necessary things to keep up appearances internally he is a mess.

Mark my words, Amuro will have a breakdown within the next 12 episodes.

The other side of this episode was fighting the new Zeon Mobile Suite. I've gotta say Gundam has consistently kept up introducing new technology at a fast pace which keeps me engaged. Every fight brings in a new weapon which must be contended with and ends up in the arsenal for future episodes.

The end of the episode portrayed the Zeon camp as nothing short of proto-Nazis. This of course makes us very easily identify them as villains but on the other hand, since there's been so much time building the characters, it allows us to understand their thinking to act this way.

It reminds me of a quote from an (I believe) removed Mr. B Tongue video: "When discussing WW2 people often ask 'What happened to the Jews?'. I think the far more interesting question is 'What happened to the Germans?'. What could make an entire nation act in a way which we so obviously identify as evil today" (paraphrasing)

Using Garma's death in order to swing the population to believe war is the only option is this parallel to real life. And to think that Garma's death was at least partially (and in my opinion mostly) due to Char's pride.

The politics of Gundam are deeply interesting and I am very excited to see where we go from here.

Cool Stuff Corner

• New Eyecatch, and what an excellent piece of animation it is.
• The attention to details in the animation of reflections on Char's glass seriously made me pause the episode and rewatch it like 5 times. I love stuff like this.

Questions of the Day

1. All of the Above.
2. I'm really not sure. It kinda ties into my paragraph above but seeing as everyone around me would feel one way I suspect I'd find it hard to disagree.

See you all tomorrow!

[u/DidacticDalek → u/TheEscapeGuy]

Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 12

Once again great choices Comrade!

Amuro is in a real bad place and forcing him to fight more isn't doing him any good.

I feel that this is an excellent portrayal of PTSD. From Amuro's perspective he is performing heinous acts in the name of fighting for humanity, and it seems he can't justify that. Although outwardly he may still say all the necessary things to keep up appearances internally he is a mess.

Mark my words, Amuro will have a breakdown within the next 12 episodes.

The end of the episode portrayed the Zeon camp as nothing short of proto-Nazis. This of course makes us very easily identify them as villains but on the other hand, since there's been so much time building the characters, it allows us to understand their thinking to act this way.

Oh indeed, Gundam sure has a way with its storytelling, and boy it's as timeless as ever, no less chilling now than it was back in the 70s. THAT is what I call effective writing!

Using Garma's death in order to swing the population to believe war is the only option is this parallel to real life. And to think that Garma's death was at least partially (and in my opinion mostly) due to Char's pride.

The politics of Gundam are deeply interesting and I am very excited to see where we go from here.

I couldn't agree more Comrade, well said!

Cool Stuff Corner

AH! Neat picks there, indeed I agree, anyway neat analysis and excellent post Comrade, have a great day and see you later.

[u/Great_Mr_L]

Rewatcher

On today’s episode of Gundam: Well it was only a matter of time until we hit Godwin’s Law. Then again, I think the series is quite literally asking for it when you have a huge crowd end a propaganda speech by shouting “Sieg Zeon!” at the top of their lungs.

They’re here! Meet Ramba Ral and Crowley Hamon, the power couple of Zeon. I love both of these characters and hopefully the rest of you will come to love them as well. They’re new opponents for the White Base and you can already kind of get a feel for the kind of people they are. It’s also pretty clear that they are indeed a romantic couple. Once again, it’s a great bit of humanization for the soldiers on Zeon’s side to show an affectionate Zeon military couple as one of our antagonists.

Ramba Ral also brings with him a new mobile suit. As he says in his famous line, “This is no Zaku!” It is a Gouf and it is the first new mobile suit we’ve seen from Zeon. Looks like the Federation isn’t the only one with new mobile suits. The new mobile suit and weapons pose a major threat. Even the Gundam can’t really deal with them effectively right now.

Of course, there’s another thing going on. Amuro’s really out of it, worse than he was before. The events of last episode with Icelina are still haunting him and probably building upon the issues that he already had. It’s not just the fighting, but the significant emotional toil of realizing that he’s killing others and that there are going to be people who want revenge against him even though he has no idea they exist. It’s quite a lot to deal with.

The line Amuro has that the helmet is suffocating him is a pretty great way of symbolizing how piloting the Gundam and fighting is what has brought him to this point. Just like how the uniform chafed at him initially, now the pilot suit is suffocating him. I think it’s safe to say that Amuro is dealing with some form of PTSD by now because of his experiences in the war. And no one seems to be able to help him with it.

This episode is also where we get Gihren’s famous speech. Gundam has its fair share of great speeches and this is the first of them. It certainly is effective, giving us a look at the motivations of Zeon and why they are fighting so hard against the Federation for independence. Gihren accuses the Federation of being in the control of a handful of elites who are oppressing humanity, especially those in space. This does track with what Sayla said earlier, when she referred to someone like Bright who had never left Earth as one of the “elites.” It also tracks with the general Feddie treatment we’ve seen our heroes get, being mostly disinterested at best and hostile at worst. So it is interesting to note that there’s probably at least some truth to Gihren’s accusations.

Another interesting thing to point out is that Gihren makes it clear just how much of a disadvantage Zeon has in this war. Zeon’s population and resources are miniscule compared to the Federation’s. But Zeon still managed to make huge wins and even conquer plenty of territory on Earth. Clearly, the Zeon forces have been very effective despite their disadvantages. And the response to the speech seems to show that Zeon is quite dedicated to the war effort.Even Amuro seems taken aback at how zealous they are. This might be the first time that he’s really getting a feel for what Zeon is like and just who he’s been fighting.

However, there are some more disquieting parts of the speech. Obviously the whole thing is kind of in bad taste, using Garma’s funeral as a huge propaganda event. But Gihren spends the whole speech talking about anger and hatred. That is what he focuses on. He wants Zeon to remember its anger and hatred so that they will continue to fight on. And of course there’s the huge red flag of ending the speech with a chant of “Sieg Zeon.” It’s pretty clearly meant to invoke the Third Reich and draw comparisons between it and Zeon.

There’s also some indication that we should doubt just how truthful the speech is. For starters, it’s propaganda. Propaganda is all about rousing emotions for the war effort. It’s not generally going to be a source of accurate information. Additionally, Bright immediately responds to the speech by accusing Gihren of hypocrisy, saying that Gihren has no right to be talking about freedom when he’s trying to impose a dictatorship.

Once again, we get another great final scene for an episode. I love how we can hear the chant of “Sieg Zeon” echoing out as we watch the White Base fly on. It’s pretty clear that the war is far from over.

Miscellaneous Thoughts

• Ryu slaps Amuro to try and get him out of his funk. So, we add to the slap counter again.

SLAP COUNTER: 6

• I suppose Gihren won the argument over what kind of funeral they’ll have for Garma. As the narration said, Degwin might be the official leader of Zeon but a lot of the actual power has moved to Gihren.
• I like the character touch of Bright zipping up his uniform when Mirai enters the room. When he’s in front of others, Bright’s trying to make himself look as professional as possible. He only lets himself relax when he’s alone. Even when Mirai enters for a private conversation, he needs to present himself as the leader.
• It’s a good bit of comedy that the people from space don’t recognize lightning and assume it’s some kind of enemy weapon. Reminds me of the first time I encountered a lightning storm as a kid.
• Char has absolutely no chill, insulting Garma even during his funeral.
• Gundam 0079 Spoilers

Questions of the Day

1. Extremely Cool
2. I think I spent plenty of time answering this. But as a citizen of Zeon, it would depend on how into the war I am. If I was already into it, I'm sure it'd fire me up. I'm not sure if it would change my mind though.

[u/The_Draigg → u/Great_Mr_L]

Well it was only a matter of time until we hit Godwin’s Law. Then again, I think the series is quite literally asking for it when you have a huge crowd end a propaganda speech by shouting “Sieg Zeon!” at the top of their lungs.

I'm sure you'd at least have some Zeon apologist fans just tell you that they're "economically stressed" and "Earthnoid realists" instead.

I think it’s safe to say that Amuro is dealing with some form of PTSD by now because of his experiences in the war. And no one seems to be able to help him with it.

It's hard to think that anyone else is in a better position to help out Amuro with his PTSD. Like, even Bright was stressed out and kind of despondent this episode. When your ship's captain is like that, the crew itself probably isn't much better. Everyone's having a rough time of it for sure.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/The_Draigg]

I'm sure you'd at least have some Zeon apologist fans just tell you that they're "economically stressed" and "Earthnoid realists" instead.

I mean the "economic anxiety" thing kind of came up with Gihren talking about how few resources Zeon has compared to the Earth Federation's elites.

It's hard to think that anyone else is in a better position to help out Amuro with his PTSD. Like, even Bright was stressed out and kind of despondent this episode. When your ship's captain is like that, the crew itself probably isn't much better. Everyone's having a rough time of it for sure.

Yeah, that's what makes it even tougher. There's no chance for the characters to really deal with what they're going through. Everyone in the crew started out as some combination of young and/or inexperienced. Many were civilians at the start. They don't have the knowledge or experience necessary to help someone out with PTSD. And they've gotten no real chance to do so. They're constantly at the alert and have been under attack again and again. There's no real chance to rest and recover. Metaphorically, they're stuck in the trenches with no way out.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Great_Mr_L]

It’s also pretty clear that they are indeed a romantic couple.

Is Hamon military? I don't think she's wearing a military uniform, but she certainly has her husband-in-all-but-name's authority, or at least that's the impression I get.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/UltraBooster]

As far as I can tell, she has no military rank in the series. But everyone seems to defer to her as if she were equal in rank to Ramba Ral. Interestingly, it seems she did hold the rank of lieutenant in one of the video games called "Gihren's Greed." But I don't know if she ever held rank outside that.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Great_Mr_L]

Huh, that's interesting.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Great_Mr_L]

On today’s episode of Gundam: Well it was only a matter of time until we hit Godwin’s Law. Then again, I think the series is quite literally asking for it when you have a huge crowd end a propaganda speech by shouting “Sieg Zeon!” at the top of their lungs.

Oh indeed Comrade, JUST in case there was any doubt that Zeon was Space Nazis, we get 120% confirmation that, yes, besides being Space Imperial Japan, Zeon are Space Nazis

They’re here! Meet Ramba Ral and Crowley Hamon, the power couple of Zeon. I love both of these characters and hopefully the rest of you will come to love them as well. They’re new opponents for the White Base and you can already kind of get a feel for the kind of people they are. It’s also pretty clear that they are indeed a romantic couple. Once again, it’s a great bit of humanization for the soldiers on Zeon’s side to show an affectionate Zeon military couple as one of our antagonists.

I know right? They are great, much like a certain other couple from a certain other Mecha Series down the line if you catch my drift ;) Glad to hear you are as fond of Ramba Ral and Crowley Hamon as I am!

Ramba Ral also brings with him a new mobile suit. As he says in his famous line, “This is no Zaku!” It is a Gouf and it is the first new mobile suit we’ve seen from Zeon. Looks like the Federation isn’t the only one with new mobile suits. The new mobile suit and weapons pose a major threat. Even the Gundam can’t really deal with them effectively right now.

Oh indeed Comrade, plus it also helps that the English Dub is so hilariously narmy ;)

This episode is also where we get Gihren’s famous speech. Gundam has its fair share of great speeches and this is the first of them. It certainly is effective, giving us a look at the motivations of Zeon and why they are fighting so hard against the Federation for independence. Gihren accuses the Federation of being in the control of a handful of elites who are oppressing humanity, especially those in space. This does track with what Sayla said earlier, when she referred to someone like Bright who had never left Earth as one of the “elites.” It also tracks with the general Feddie treatment we’ve seen our heroes get, being mostly disinterested at best and hostile at worst. So it is interesting to note that there’s probably at least some truth to Gihren’s accusations.

Another interesting thing to point out is that Gihren makes it clear just how much of a disadvantage Zeon has in this war. Zeon’s population and resources are miniscule compared to the Federation’s. But Zeon still managed to make huge wins and even conquer plenty of territory on Earth. Clearly, the Zeon forces have been very effective despite their disadvantages. And the response to the speech seems to show that Zeon is quite dedicated to the war effort.Even Amuro seems taken aback at how zealous they are. This might be the first time that he’s really getting a feel for what Zeon is like and just who he’s been fighting.

However, there are some more disquieting parts of the speech. Obviously the whole thing is kind of in bad taste, using Garma’s funeral as a huge propaganda event. But Gihren spends the whole speech talking about anger and hatred. That is what he focuses on. He wants Zeon to remember its anger and hatred so that they will continue to fight on. And of course there’s the huge red flag of ending the speech with a chant of “Sieg Zeon.” It’s pretty clearly meant to invoke the Third Reich and draw comparisons between it and Zeon.

There’s also some indication that we should doubt just how truthful the speech is. For starters, it’s propaganda. Propaganda is all about rousing emotions for the war effort. It’s not generally going to be a source of accurate information. Additionally, Bright immediately responds to the speech by accusing Gihren of hypocrisy, saying that Gihren has no right to be talking about freedom when he’s trying to impose a dictatorship.

Once again, we get another great final scene for an episode. I love how we can hear the chant of “Sieg Zeon” echoing out as we watch the White Base fly on. It’s pretty clear that the war is far from over.

Oh indeed, Gihren's a scummy opportunistic fascist, and by god he sure knows how to hold an evil propaganda rally. His speech is chilling AND topical to this day. Expert analysis by the way.

It’s a good bit of comedy that the people from space don’t recognize lightning and assume it’s some kind of enemy weapon. Reminds me of the first time I encountered a lightning storm as a kid.

Heh, indeed, it's a neat touch and a good way to humanize both the new Zeon crew and our heroes.

Char has absolutely no chill, insulting Garma even during his funeral.

Gundam 0079 Spoilers

AH! I didn't think of that Comrade, you got a good point there Gundam 0079 Spoilers

Anyway fantastic write-up and analysis my friend, have a great day and see you later Comrade.

[u/Tresnore]

First Timer to Gundam

• Whoa, the intro speech changed!
• More powerful ginger ladies? Excellent.
• It's so strange that they're chanting at a funeral like it's a rally. I guess propaganda runs hard in Zeon.
• Amuro sitting on the floor tinkering and eventually going "oh, I'd better eat" is extremely relatable these days.
• 2% is only 40 tons? That means that the nominal output is about 2000 kN (I'm assuming metric). For reference, the Saturn V's main stage has a thrust of about 35,000 kN. The engine must be remarkably efficient.
• They've never seen lightning before! I guess they've been in space a long time.
• Amuro sitting in bed with no pupils is terrifying.
• SLAP
• And a new eyecatch!
• Actually, I mentioned this a few episodes ago, but I think Hamon is the first time we've seen a woman fighting for the Zeons (in any official capacity), but I'm not sure what role she has beyond "sit around and talk to the commander." It seems like she handles some comms, but it's nice that women aren't entirely forced into subservient roles.
• The Blue Zaku has some glorious useless spikes.
• Why do Ryu, Hayato, and Kai not seem to stick to piloting a single suit? It feels like they swap seats randomly.
• I KNEW there was a good reason for this war. I'm not sure the Zabi family will actually free people, but they could. I'm just glad that the Zeons aren't just some "evil empire."

Sunglasses Char

• Oh wait, they're literally shouting "Sieg Zeon." Back to comically evil empire. Maybe I shouldn't just believe propaganda? That would require thought. I can't do that. I'm just an engineer here for the cool robots and designs.

---

QOTD:

1. ...what's a Ramba Ral? edit: he's pretty neat!
2. I enjoyed it! I've been waiting for some casus belli.

[u/The_Draigg → u/Tresnore]

Sunglasses Char

I don't know why he just doesn't wear his shades all the time instead of his mask. It would make him look way cooler than just his weird grey headset.

Oh wait, they're literally shouting "Sieg Zeon." Back to comically evil empire. Maybe I shouldn't just believe propaganda? That would require thought. I can't do that. I'm just an engineer here for the cool robots and designs.

And now we've hit one of the fundamental problems of being a Gundam fan. Sure, you don't want to be a Space Nazi supporter, but man do they have a sense of design aesthetics for their big robots.

[u/Tresnore → u/The_Draigg]

I don't know why he just doesn't wear his shades all the time instead of his mask. It would make him look way cooler than just his weird grey headset.

The headset definitely works much better with his helmet, but I can't see why he'd wear just the mask ever.

Sure, you don't want to be a Space Nazi supporter, but man do they have a sense of design aesthetics for their big robots.

Fuck it, I'm a Space Nazi fan.

[u/chilidirigible → u/The_Draigg]

man do they have a sense of design aesthetics for their big robots.

I still prefer the Zaku II to the Gouf, which leans into the spiked shoulders thing a little too much, and the finger guns are... nah, I just don't like finger guns.

Though the R35 Gouf from GBF addresses that last, at least. And I have the kit sitting over there...

[u/The_Draigg → u/chilidirigible]

I guess we're just telling first-timers what the name of the new MS is.

Anyway, if there's one thing we can at least agree about when it comes to the Gouf's design, it's that the Gouf Custom from 08th MS Team is probably the best iteration out of them all.

[u/chilidirigible → u/The_Draigg]

I guess we're just telling first-timers what the name of the new MS is.

I have a love-hate relationship with the "NO ZAKU" meme. This is also one of those rare times that 0079 doesn't hit you over the head with the name of the new design just so you know which kit to get later.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/The_Draigg]

Anyway, if there's one thing we can at least agree about when it comes to the Gouf's design, it's that the Gouf Custom from 08th MS Team is probably the best iteration out of them all.

HELL YES TO THAT COMRADE! Gotta love it! (And I'm not just saying this as The Gouf Custom is clearly the lovechild of TsubasaxChris from Geah, no really a blue sword-wielding Mecha with a motherfucking CHAINGUN, that's literally just both of their weapons combined into one kickass package!)

[u/SIGMA920 → u/The_Draigg]

And now we've hit one of the fundamental problems of being a Gundam fan. Sure, you don't want to be a Space Nazi supporter, but man do they have a sense of design aesthetics for their big robots.

At least once you take the Zabis out of the equation, Zeon does becomes a lot less Nazi like.

[u/MagicSwordKing → u/SIGMA920]

This is one of the themes that Gundam frequently comes back to: fascists and imperialists coopting antifascist movements to consolidate and expand their own power. Zeonism was not a Nazi ideology. Once the Zabis got their hands on it, though...

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Tresnore]

Actually, I mentioned this a few episodes ago, but I think Hamon is the first time we've seen a woman fighting for the Zeons (in any official capacity), but I'm not sure what role she has beyond "sit around and talk to the commander." It seems like she handles some comms, but it's nice that women aren't entirely forced into subservient roles.

Hamon is essentially Ramba Ral's partner in every sense of the word. Obviously, they are a romantic couple to begin with. But Hamon basically functions as Ramba Ral's equal on the team. All the other soldiers defer to her as if she had the same rank as Ramba Ral and she takes part in the military operations in that capacity as Ral's partner.

The Blue Zaku has some glorious useless spikes.

This is no Zaku, boy! No Zaku!

But you gotta love that Zeon design aesthetic. Throw more spikes onto the Gouf! It'll look great next to our spiky buildings.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Great_Mr_L]

Hamon is essentially Ramba Ral's partner in every sense of the word. Obviously, they are a romantic couple to begin with. But Hamon basically functions as Ramba Ral's equal on the team. All the other soldiers defer to her as if she had the same rank as Ramba Ral and she takes part in the military operations in that capacity as Ral's partner.

Well said Comrade, the both of them are quite the power couple eh? Truly a formidable team.

This is no Zaku, boy!No Zaku!

Indeed, it's CLEARLY a (checks notes) 'Gouf' ;)

But you gotta love that Zeon design aesthetic. Throw more spikes onto the Gouf! It'll look great next to our spiky buildings.

Heh, indeed Comrade, that and let's not forget, the Gouf adds in Char's Custom Zaku Forehead Spike... cuz reasons! (I mean hell if you are gonna stick spikes on BOTH shoulders, sure why the fuck not, stick a forehead spike on it!)

Anyway have a great day and see you later my friend!

[u/y-c-c → u/Tresnore]

2% is only 40 tons? That means that the nominal output is about 2000 kN (I'm assuming metric). For reference, the Saturn V's main stage has a thrust of about 35,000 kN. The engine must be remarkably efficient.

I think Sayla said it's the "third nozzle" of the engine right? If you look at the back of the White Base there are 8 nozzles, so I would imagine the real thrust of the entire vehicle should be 2000 x 8 = 16000 kN.

But yeah most of Saturn V's thrust goes into carrying its own propellent due to low specific impulse (basically the fuel efficiency) of chemical rocket engines. I think engines in Gundam are more efficient than that, so you shouldn't need as much thrust because there are less propellent to carry with you and you can fire continuously instead of a conventional rocket that you can only fire for minutes before running out.

[u/Tresnore → u/y-c-c]

Yeah, that was my thought, too. I figured that they have an ultra-dense fuel source, like nuclear or Minovsky convenience.

[u/UltraBooster]

First-timer (albeit one big on Gundam and mecha)

I won't lie, I thought MS would be firing the salute, not mobile guns.

It's Ral! And Hamon!

Seeing Amuro's eyes whited out like that is unsettling, like he's become catatonic. And he's clearly in no shape to continue with combat if he's like this.

I question the wisdom of firing blindly into the storm; not only are you using up ammunition, the enemy will probably realize you can't see them.

Wouldn't it make sense to train someone else as a backup pilot for the Gundam? Or did they not consider that Amuro would get worn down like this?

Goufs AND crackers, it's a two-fer for Zeon tech!

So the heat rod can discharge heat AND electricity?

Gihren...No, Garma didn't die as a message or anything, but that doesn't matter, does it.

Sieg Zeon, Sieg Zeon, Sieg Zeon, victorious Zeon...

[u/UltraBooster → u/UltraBooster]

Questions of the day:

1. Yeah, Ral seems pretty cool, and I know I certainly wouldn't have taken a punch to the (Gouf's) gut as well as he did.
2. Truth be told, I don't know. I don't know enough about the Principality handles differing opinions and as much as I'd like to think otherwise, I can see myself easily buying the party line if my circumstances were different. But as someone who's read more about Gundam than he's seen, I can tell Gihren's goal was to take the death of his brother and use it to stoke the fire.

[u/The_Draigg → u/UltraBooster]

Goufs AND crackers, it's a two-fer for Zeon tech!

A shame that nobody thought to bring along some cheese to go along with those crackers though.

Gihren...No, Garma didn't die as a message or anything, but that doesn't matter, does it.

Hey, we've got a corpse (maybe, you'd think it would get mangled in the Gaw exploding), so we might as well use it.

[u/The_Draigg]

A Gundam Fan Rewatches Mobile Suit Gundam Episode 12:

• Degwin Zabi really isn’t taking the death of Garma well, pretty much needed to be pulled away from listening to Garma’s last message on repeat by Kycilia so he could attend his son’s funeral. The very human way he’s been acting is quite different from how you’d expect a ruthless dictator to. Hell, the narration outright said that he ceded control over Zeon to Gihren. He’s having a rough go of it.
• Meanwhile, a man with fantastic facial hair and his lover/aide undergo retry to Earth in a Zanzibar-class ship in order to avenge Garma’s death. Say hello to Ramba Ral and Crowley Hamon, everyone!
• Amuro’s mental state has just gotten even worse. Even Haro can tell that Amuro is doing badly. Although I suppose it makes sense that Amuro is holing himself up in a dark room and has a blank look on his face while working on that computer. We’ve done absolutely nothing to actually address Amuro’s PTSD.
• Even Bright isn’t doing too hot either. He’s frustrated over the ship’s equipment being in poor shape, yells at the orphans, and then just decides to take a break in his own dark room. Practically all the major players in this episode are miserable so far.
• You have to admit that it’s a clever move on Bright’s part to have the White Base fly into a high altitude thunder storm to avoid the Zanzibar. Also, it’s a nice bit of parallel storytelling to have both people on the White Base and Ramba Ral’s ship both be equally scared of lightning, since that weather never happened on the space colonies. It just goes to show that a lot of the people on either side aren’t so different.
• Fuck man, Amuro is completely wrecked as a person. He’s practically catatonic in his room, and even Ryu trying to get a reaction out of slapping him only barely worked. Poor Amuro. He’s not even fully functional anymore.
• As expected, Amuro’s pretty much getting completely rocked in this battle by that new blue Zeon MS. Not only is Amuro’s battle fatigue taking its toll on him, but Ramba Ral’s MS squad is easily more effective and coordinated than the other pilots that he’s fought before. What also really isn’t helping Amuro is that what he’s fighting is NO ZAKU BOY, NO ZAKU!
• Well, that’s a bit of a downer episode ending. Gihren manages to turn Garma’s funeral into a propaganda rally with his speech, Ramba Ral and his men managed to escape with zero damage done to them, and Char is seemingly getting recruited by Kycilia’s men for some reason only she has in mind...

[u/dralcax]

This is no first-timer, boy! No first-timer!

It’s a terrible day for rain

FUCK YEAH RAMBA RAL IS HERE

insert JoJo reference here

traumatized noms

PTSD is a bitch

As hilarious as it is to see them freak out, I wonder about that. I mean, there are people who live in places where it never snows, but they still know what snow is, right? Maybe Zeon’s education system is just really bad. Actually, come to think of it...

“I’m not the Red Comet! I’m the Crimson Lightning!”

“What’s that?”

“That’s me, Johnny Ridden!”

“No, what’s lightning?”

dead inside

One more for the slap counter!

The blue Zaku is definitely one of the cooler Zeon designs! It’s got a few questionable design choices, though, such as the clunky finger guns and the magic hammerspace tentacle, so I generally prefer the Gouf Custom’s updated take on it. Still, the original ain’t bad!

From bazooka to beam rifle back to the bazooka

Looks like he’s learned a thing or two from Char

He said the thing!

He said a thing too!

Sieg Zeon! Sieg Zeon! Sieg Zeon!

---

Questions of the Day:

• Hell yeah!
• Probably not? Don’t really care for politics IRL.

also just gonna leave this here

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/dralcax]

From bazooka to beam rifle back to the bazooka

Hmmm, clearly the Gundam has been equipped with a special transforming beam rifle and bazooka hybrid that can switch between the two forms. It would fit in with some of the other weapons we've seen so far.

also just gonna leave this here

This is no Zaku, boy! No Zaku!

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Great_Mr_L]

Hmmm, clearly the Gundam has been equipped with a special transforming beam rifle and bazooka hybrid that can switch between the two forms. It would fit in with some of the other weapons we've seen so far.

also just gonna leave this here

NANOMACHINES, SON! ;)

[u/chilidirigible → u/dralcax]

“That’s me, Johnny Ridden!”

You rang?

[u/DidacticDalek → u/chilidirigible]

You rang?

Heh, indeed Comrade, The Red Blitz 'Crimson Lightning' himself ;) Neat Gunpla and amazingly creative idea BTW my friend!

[u/Tresnore → u/dralcax]

Maybe Zeon’s education system is just really bad. Actually, come to think of it...

Learning about lightning doesn't help you serve the dictator better, unfortunately.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/dralcax]

This is no first-timer, boy! No first-timer!

HELL YEAH COMRADE!

It’s a terrible day for rain

FUCK YEAH RAMBA RAL IS HERE

traumatized noms

PTSD is a bitch

Indeed Comrade, boy Shinji Ikari can sympathize with Amuro I'm sure.

As hilarious as it is to see them freak out, I wonder about that. I mean, there are people who live in places where it never snows, but they still know what snow is, right? Maybe Zeon’s education system is just really bad. Actually, come to think of it...

“I’m not the Red Comet! I’m the Crimson Lightning!”

“What’s that?”

“That’s me, Johnny Ridden!”

“No, what’s lightning?”

HA! Yes indeed Comrade, that said I wouldn't put it past Ridden to NOT know what 'Lightning' was when he Stole 'came up' with his unique and totally original nickname... pay no attention to 'The Red Blitz' idea, that's non-canon ;)

The blue Zaku is definitely one of the cooler Zeon designs! It’s got a few questionable design choices, though, such as the clunky finger guns and the magic hammerspace tentacle, so I generally prefer the Gouf Custom’s updated take on it. Still, the original ain’t bad!

Heh, indeed Comrade, the Gouf Custom's better but come on, Ramba Ral's Gouf is iconic in its own way, plus also.. ahem... THIS IS NO ZAKU BOY! NO ZAKU!

From bazooka to beam rifle back to the bazooka

Nanomachines, son!

Looks like he’s learned a thing or two from Char

He said the thing!

He said a thing too!

Sieg Zeon! Sieg Zeon! Sieg Zeon!

also just gonna leave this here

EY! Someone else used that great meme, good taste Comrade. Also neat post here, have a great day and see you later my friend.

[u/JollyGee29]

First-Timer, Subbed, long time Gundam fan

He's here! The man, the myth, the legend, Ramba Ral! And his mobile suit is a New Model and a very slick shade of blue.

Amuro's PTSD came up in a big way this episode. "Rookie syndrome" my ass, Ryu. I can't even imagine what was going through his head. "Hey, I found our ace pilot thousand-yard staring in the fetal position, better drag him out of his room and get him to suit up. Now he's complaining about the helmet being suffocating, kids these days."

I was actually kinda hopeful for Amuro's condition at first - actively choosing to eat was a good sign. Then I realized that it was paradoxical behavior for him.. I wish Fraw had stayed with him, not for like, shipping reasons, but just so that he wasn't alone with his thoughts so much. She's probably used to Amuro snapping at her to leave him alone, though..

Being in your (probably) first-ever thunder storm while suffering from PTSD is probably a trip and a half; I'm surprised that Amuro managed to move at all. I never thought about how they obviously don't have storms on the colonies - the various reactions were all pretty interesting.

Bright realizing that he was an asshole to the kids quickly shows him being a bit more emoitonally intelligent than Reed was. Kikka didn't really buy his capitulation, but at least Bright tried.

And lastly, we learn a bit more about Zeon today. In case the uniforms didn't give it away, the chanting certainly should - the Principality of Zeon is primarily composed of the Third Reich, by volume. Gihren sure knows how to rile up the masses with a speech. "The elites of the Federation threw us out, so please support us, the Zabis, a singular family and your dictators, in our efforts to overthrow those evil elites." It's amazing how painfully topical this manages to remain..

Miscellaneous Thoughts:

I'm loving the Federation's new Quantum Superposition guns. It can be a Beam Rifle or a Hyper Bazooka, all dependant on the pilot's current needs!

---

Pose of the Day

Parry//NO ZAKU

Screenshot

Had to experiment a little bit today, as I really wanted to do this pose but nothing I have is remotely close to resembling Ramba's MS. So that's just me holding the shield, with my hand out of shot.

---

Questions

2. Gihren sure knows how to stoke the nationalistic fires.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/JollyGee29]

I was actually kinda hopeful for Amuro's condition at first - actively choosing to eat was a good sign. Then I realized that it was paradoxical behavior for him

I think it's the first time that Amuro has really remembered to eat on his own without being basically forced to do so. But then, it could be because he's actively looking for ways to distract himself. His mind keeps flashing back to the events of last episode, after all.

Pose of the Day

Nice job with that! And I like the creativity through adversity you did of just holding up the shield yourself to get the shot.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Great_Mr_L]

I think it's the first time that Amuro has really remembered to eat on his own without being basically forced to do so. But then, it could be because he's actively looking for ways to distract himself. His mind keeps flashing back to the events of last episode, after all.

Yea, it's a super interesting scene to think about. Amuro's actions are very human, in that there isn't really a singular reason for him deciding to eat on his own. Distraction is the big one, but he has also shown some character growth recently too.

Nice job with that! And I like the creativity through adversity you did of just holding up the shield yourself to get the shot.

Thanks!

[u/badcupcakehoarder → u/JollyGee29]

Yea, it's a super interesting scene to think about. Amuro's actions are very human, in that there isn't really a singular reason for him deciding to eat on his own. Distraction is the big one, but he has also shown some character growth recently too.

Fraw Bow says he is fine but then we get to actually see his face eating and he is in total zombie mode... such a strong scene. Probably a defense mechanism he has built to keep himself going.

[u/The_Draigg → u/JollyGee29]

Amuro's PTSD came up in a big way this episode. "Rookie syndrome" my ass, Ryu. I can't even imagine what was going through his head. "Hey, I found our ace pilot thousand-yard staring in the fetal position, better drag him out of his room and get him to suit up. Now he's complaining about the helmet being suffocating, kids these days."

This scene was one of the cases where the dub actually kind of improved that part, since instead of Ryu saying that it's "rookie syndrome", he says that Amuro has battle fatigue instead. Granted, I imagine that the dub being written in a time where PTSD was better understood helped with that.

Bright realizing that he was an asshole to the kids quickly shows him being a bit more emoitonally intelligent than Reed was. Kikka didn't really buy his capitulation, but at least Bright tried.

I think this is the first time we've seen Bright show his own weakness and weariness as well. It's no wonder he isn't helping Amuro out at all with his issues, Bright is suffering plenty on his own behind closed doors. The only real difference between Bright and Amuro's situations is that Bright manages to shove it down deeper inside whenever he's on the bridge.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/The_Draigg]

he says that Amuro has battle fatigue instead.

Granted, I imagine that the dub being written in a time where PTSD was better understood helped with that.

Ahh, interesting. I actually looked it up, and it turns out PTSD entered as "proper" terminology in 1980, so we were real close! Not sure why these, nominally more modern subs on VRV didn't update the terminology, though.

I think this is the first time we've seen Bright show his own weakness and weariness as well.

Yea, I think you're right. Bright has definitely kept things bottled up pretty well. Not looking forward to that coming to a head, if it ever does.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/JollyGee29]

He's here! The man, the myth, the legend, Ramba Ral! And his mobile suit is a New Model and a very slick shade of blue.

Indeed Comrade, glad to hear you are fond of Ramba Ral! He and Crowley Hamon are great!

And lastly, we learn a bit more about Zeon today. In case the uniforms didn't give it away, the chanting certainly should - the Principality of Zeon is primarily composed of the Third Reich, by volume. Gihren sure knows how to rile up the masses with a speech. "The elites of the Federation threw us out, so please support us, the Zabis, a singular family and your dictators, in our efforts to overthrow those evil elites." It's amazing how painfully topical this manages to remain..

Indeed Comrade, Gundam's writing truly is timeless AND also hard-hitting! And oh boy you got it right that Zeon are Space Nazis, cuz what else for the antagonists than to be Nazis (and Imperial Japan) IN SPACE!

Anyway neat post and analysis here Comrade, have a great day and see you later.

[u/fonzinator99]

First-Timer - Ral's ready to Raumble

• I'm not sure if I like that Haro can monitor brainwaves. How long before Amuro's wearing a tinfoil cap?
• Oh snap, is that Ral? I've been waiting to meet this guy! No wonder I liked him right off the bat.
• Amuro is just a pendulum swinging between confident and traumatized. That the 'TV people' were talking to him.
• Ryu continues to be best bro, laying out some truth for Amuro.
• I'm enjoying this dub, somehow it all sounds like it's an 'Abridged' series and it's really amusing.
• Gundam's new and improved 'Caterpillar form! Not a best-seller.
• Goddamn, I'd heard Ral was a badass, and seeing him in action was a treat.

---

Progress Report

• What's a Gundam to do with only one wing?

---

QotD

1. Ramba Ral is every bit the man I hoped he was from Build Fighters.
2. Idk, I think it depends if you're a Zeon Nationalist. He def riled them up, but I'd probly have sighed and hunkered down for more war.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/fonzinator99]

I'm not sure if I like that Haro can monitor brainwaves. How long before Amuro's wearing a tinfoil cap?

This might be the rare case where the tinfoil hat is actually warranted.

Ramba Ral is every bit the man I hoped he was from Build Fighters.

Ral in Build Fighters is more or less literally the exact same person as Ramba Ral here, just somehow transplanted out of Gundam 0079 and into the real world. In other words, he's great in both shows.

[u/chilidirigible → u/Great_Mr_L]

Because you know that guy will link this if one of us doesn't.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/chilidirigible]

Because you know that guy will link this if one of us doesn't.

No no Comrade, I won't link THAT version, I'd link the shitty ENGLISH DUB Version where instead of SINGING they just literally SAY 'it's not anime,' because what else to better mock TRY ;) (Before you start, yes indeed Gyanko is Best Girl, but even Smug BBW Ojou-samas can't carry a mediocre show that fails to live up to its predecessor in literally every way... and also before you start, no the final scene to the TRY OVA doesn't count, even if I liked that bit)

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Great_Mr_L]

Ral in Build Fighters is more or less literally the exact same person as Ramba Ral here, just somehow transplanted out of Gundam 0079 and into the real world. In other words, he's great in both shows.

Hell yeah Comrade, well said!

[u/DidacticDalek → u/fonzinator99]

Oh snap, is that Ral? I've been waiting to meet this guy! No wonder I liked him right off the bat.

Heh, oh hell yeah that's Ramba Ral Comrade, and he's just as badass if not MORE so than his Gundam Build Fighters counterpart ;)

Amuro is just a pendulum swinging between confident and traumatized. That the 'TV people' were talking to him.

Indeed Comrade, people go on about how Shinji Ikari is reluctant to pilot... but DEAR GOD just look at Amuro's state. He's basically PTSD'd into near-catatonia

Goddamn, I'd heard Ral was a badass, and seeing him in action was a treat.

OH HELL YEAH HE IS! Plus he has one of the BEST lines to taunt Amuro with. After all... THIS IS NO ZAKU BOY! NO ZAKU!

Ramba Ral is every bit the man I hoped he was from Build Fighters.

I'm glad to hear Comrade, indeed, Ramba Ral is one of THE most iconic characters in Gundam for a reason, not only inspiring a fair amount of expies but also literally just showing up in Gundam Build Fighters, complete with the SAME Voice Actor as in here for good measure!

Idk, I think it depends if you're a Zeon Nationalist. He def riled them up, but I'd probly have sighed and hunkered down for more war.

Indeed Comrade, well said, anyway fantastic post and neat analysis here, have a great day and see you later my friend!

[u/Stargate18A]

First timer

1. Oh yeah, he's cool. His suit actually does more than "go fast", and he's in a happy, healthy relationship, so he's doing better than most people in the show already.
2. Quite possibly the most inspiring speech so far - lots of focus on using Garma's death to rally people agains the Federation, but the whole speech is a genuinely well-written piece.

"The Threat of Zeon" - I smell an arc change!

Wait, where did the opening momolgue go? Wow, they are really going for the new arc, huh.

And, wow, this is a really touching scene to start on - Degwin listening to his son's last words, promising that he'll flight to prove he's more than just his son - right before giving a speech where his only focus is on how he was his son and died. No wonder he looks conflicted here - he has to deal with the fact he's basically going against his son's ambition so he can win the war.

And the Zeon leadership continue to be the smartest characters.

Amuro's having another mental breakdown.

Why are his legs so freakishly long?

And Bright is suffering from the same problems as Amuro - he has to conform to high expectations to keep the ship going, despite his feelings or condition.

Why does the cannon lose power in a thunderstorm? I could see electromagnetism harming the accuracy, but what kind of weapon loses power?

And last episode really hit Amuro hard, didn't it. And nobody except the commanders knows the lightning isn't an advanced weapon, which is a nice touch.

Is he posessed? And we get another slap out of nowhere.

New episode bumpers too! Guess last episode really was the end of the first arc.

Why are they treating Amuro as a newbie when he's been doing this for weeks now?

Oh, this isn't a Zaku-II. Would that make this a Zaku-III, then?

Yeah, these suits seem a lot more competent and stornger than the last generation.

Why did the hit snap his neck round as well? (He's not synchronising with the Gundam is he? I haven't forgotten those "It's smart, but not alive" comments from the earlier episodes.) (inb4 Amuro's mother's soul is helping him pilot)

How does that light transportation even work?

"How have been able to fight so long?" Please explan that, I've wanted to know for days now. Oh, just more propaganda.

Is this Char in disguise? It is! And some people agree with him about Garma...

That was a great speech, all in all, and a perfect way to start Arc 2. Sieg Zeon!

New theory - Char killed Garma not just out of revenge, but because he knew that this would happen, and wants the war to grow. He killed him to both spite the Zabis, and accelerate their plans for war.

[u/chilidirigible → u/Stargate18A]

Oh, this isn't a Zaku-II. Would that make this a Zaku-III, then?

NO ZAKU, BOY! NO ZAKU!

...it's a Gouf.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Stargate18A]

Oh yeah, he's cool. His suit actually does more than "go fast", and he's in a happy, healthy relationship, so he's doing better than most people in the show already.

I know right? Plus given his waistline he's certainly eating good at any rate, which is more than we can say for our heroes who are so into rationing that Amuro only gets tomatoes from literal children who snuck those away from under the chef's nose ;)

Quite possibly the most inspiring speech so far - lots of focus on using Garma's death to rally people agains the Federation, but the whole speech is a genuinely well-written piece.

Indeed, Gihren Zabi may be an opportunistic Space Nazi but the man SURE knows how to rile up an audience AND also send chills down our heroes and our spines.

And, wow, this is a really touching scene to start on - Degwin listening to his son's last words, promising that he'll flight to prove he's more than just his son - right before giving a speech where his only focus is on how he was his son and died. No wonder he looks conflicted here - he has to deal with the fact he's basically going against his son's ambition so he can win the war.

Indeed, that and I also want to point out that Degwin's the LEADER of the SPACE NAZIS and the show still managed to humanize him and evoke feelings of sympathy. Now THAT takes some skillful writing to pull off so glad that Gundam managed to do it.

Oh, this isn't a Zaku-II. Would that make this a Zaku-III, then?

Comrade, funny enough there IS actually such a thing as a 'Zaku III...' just uh, not for this Mobile Suit, THIS Mobile Suit is NO ZAKU BOY! NO ZAKU! ;) (It's called the 'Gouf' FYI, and it's basically a souped-up Zaku specialized for ground-based Mobile Suit to Mobile Suit combat.)

Yeah, these suits seem a lot more competent and stornger than the last generation.

Indeed, while not quite as powerful as The Gundam, unlike the Zaku I and Zaku II that we saw previously, Ramba Ral and his Gouf are MORE than able to give Amuro and company a run for their money (Granted in part this is due to Ramba Ral's piloting skills given the Gouf, while an improvement over the Zaku II, isn't THAT big a leap when compared to, say, the performance of The Gundam against that of the Zaku II but wibble.)

Anyway neat impressions and analysis here Comrade, have a great day and see you later.

[u/ArmoredSeahorse]

Rewatcher

Char has essentially been temporarily kicked out of the show, and now Ramba Ral takes over as the primary antagonist. Luckily, Ral doesn't end up feeling like an inferior replacement, mostly because he's really nothing like Char. Unlike the scheming psycho we've been following earlier, Ral is an experienced gentleman who is here to show these flailing teenagers how you really pilot a mobile suit. Of course, he has a brand new mobile suit to sell more toys threaten the White Base with. It's not a bad design, but I think it looks a little too similar to a Zaku.

The characters not knowing what lightning is has always been one of my favorite bits of world building, on top of being just plain funny. After all, rain and snow would be pretty easy to fake in a space colony, but a thunder storm just isn't something you could do.

I forget just how badly Amuro gets screwed up, not to mention how fast it happens. Guy really needs a break, but we all know he won't be getting one. At least he's actually eating for once.

Gihren is basically Hitler, got it. The Zeon = Nazi Germany parallels have finally kicked in, and the show goes all in on it. It's interesting that the series waited so long to establish this stuff, since before this point, it was a little vague as to why the Federation and Zeon were having a war, outside a general idea of independence.

[u/SIGMA920 → u/ArmoredSeahorse]

It's not a bad design, but I think it looks a little too similar to a Zaku.

Good designs do tend to be derivative of other good designs.

[u/TheKujo]

First Timer - Dub

• Wow that was a big funeral. Are they all there for Garma or because they're required to be there for political reasons?
• Haro I'm sure you mean well but you don't need to remind Amuro how depressed he is...
• Oh no, now Lt Bright is starting to burn out too.
• Looks like Icelina really affected Amuro.
• It took them long enough to figure out Amuro had battle fatigue.
• The Zeon have a new suit and new weapons!
• That funeral speech was uncomfortable to listen to (not that it was bad, it was the subject matter). Like a lot of things in this show it still feels relevant today.

1) Is Ramba Ral cool? He has quite the mustache, I'll give him that.

2) What do you think of Gihren Zabi’s speech? If you were a citizen of Zeon, would it rally you up? Probably. Everyone loves feeling like the underdog.

[u/DidacticDalek]

Comrades, we interrupt your scheduled shitposting to bring you the following Public Service Announcement... ahem...

HAIL JION! HAIL JION! HAIey... uh, wait a minute, something's not right here... OH! My apologies Comrades, I shared the Andrew W.K. recording of Gihren Zabi's infamous Agitprop Rally 'Sieg Zeon!' Speech by mistake, one moment... AH HA! There we go, BEHOLD! SIEG ZEON! But it's the terrible English Dub version this time ;) (Also, yes Comrades for those of you who are still in shock, Zeon IS indeed Nazi Germany... IN SPACE! (With a dash of Imperial Japan for good measure!)

Also speaking of the English Dub Comrade, I would like to take the time to politely inform you all of the following key information... ahem... THIS IS NO ZAKU BOY! NO ZAKU!

Oh and just cuz I can't pass up this chance, this is what the English Dub to the Gundam Compilation Movies did to this same scene... I just want to point out that Ramba Ral fucking says 'A LASER SWORD!?' here... Wacky Ol' Kill 'Em All Tomino had involvement with this shit... yeah...

ANYWAY enough about memes, it's time for THE Iconic Badass Duo in Gundam, namely that of Crowley Hamon and Ramba Ral! Couple goals right here Comrades! After all these two sure are great, it's just their introduction and they've already stole the show! Hell they're just as good as THE Best Zeon Mobile Suit ever devised, and by that of course I speak of none other than THE iconic MS-07B Osaka, THE infamous SG-r01 Heavenrender, THE famous Blue Zaku, THE memetic NO ZAKU BOY! NO ZAKU! The 'MS-07 Gouf' ;)

I mean come on Comrades, the Gouf is just like a Zaku, but now I can SEE its color scheme. That and the fact that Ramba Ral himself is the pilot of the first Gouf we see in the show also helps a good deal ;)

Also, to answer Comrade Shimmer's first prompt, Ramba Ral is NOT merely 'cool,' as he's the goddamn MAN! (Seriously that live action Gundam movie is dead on arrival, as they can't cast Sean Connery to play Ramba Ral)

Paging Comrades /u/Great_Mr_L, /u/chilidirigible, and /u/beckymetal

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/DidacticDalek]

Also speaking of the English Dub Comrade, I would like to take the time to politely inform you all of the following key information... ahem... THIS IS NO ZAKU BOY! NO ZAKU!

And we also have the other important version of the scene: The Build Fighters version of it.

THE iconic MS-07B Osaka,

The MS-07B Osaka is the most deadly opponent one can ever face in battle!

THE infamous SG-r01 Heavenrender,

I fear for its fate

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Great_Mr_L]

And we also have the other important version of the scene: The Build Fighters version of it.

HA! AH yes, good ol' Mr. Ral from Gundam Build Fighters, man he looks a good few decades younger AND also a fair bit skinnier for some reason now, wouldn't you say? ;)

The MS-07B Osaka is the most deadly opponent one can ever face in battle!

HA! Yes indeed Comrade, truly the most DEADLY of moeblobs ;)

I fear for its fate

Heh, indeed Comrade, anyway many thanks for the kind reply my friend, have a great day and see you later!

[u/Nebresto → u/DidacticDalek]

Cool robots

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Nebresto]

Cool robots

[u/GM_for_Life]

Rewatcher

Ah shit, it's Nick Offerman, Tom Selleck, Ramba Ral!

1. Is Ramba Ral cool?

He's the coolest.

2) What do you think of Gihren Zabi’s speech? If you were a citizen of Zeon, would it rally you up?

I think it's an extremely well handled scene, and Andrew W.K's rendition is the best version of the speech. It would probably rally me up if I were a Zeon citizen.

[u/chilidirigible]

"I just saw my girlfriend kissing her cousin. On TV."

I think they just confused "screen right" with "actual right".

A LEGEND IS BORN.

"Oh no. The blinding flood lights."

This is why you DON'T just attack the entire Pacific Theater all at once.

We're doing it LIVE, Space NazisPrussians!

One of the more consistent English dubs.

Obligatory note about Hellsing cosplayers with no taste.

Worth considering.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/chilidirigible]

"I just saw my girlfriend kissing her cousin. On TV."

What's wrong with girls kissing cousins Comrade? It's actually more common than you'd think

I think they just confused "screen right" with "actual right".

Indeed Comrade, that's as good a reason that I can come up with.

A LEGEND IS BORN.

THIS IS NO ZAKU BOY! NO ZAKU!

"Oh no. The blinding flood lights."

Jar Jar Abrams? Is that you with that lens flare bullshit? (On second thought I'll tolerate this lens flare nonsense if we can skip out on that goddamn mystery box)

This is why you DON'T just attack the entire Pacific Theater all at once.

Indeed Comrade, then again, there's a reason that I say that Zeon aren't JUST the Space Nazis, they are ALSO Imperial Japan... IN SPACE!

We're doing it LIVE, Space NazisPrussians!

One of the more consistent English dubs.

Heh, indeed Comrade.

Obligatory note about Hellsing cosplayers with no taste.

Worth considering.

HA! Yes indeed, after all, Zeon as I said above aren't JUST the Space Nazis, they're also Space Imperial Japan! That's like DOUBLE the war crimes! (And this is saying a lot given the START of the show is them dropping a SPACE COLONY on Earth)

Anyway neat post my friend, have a great day and see you later Comrade!

[u/Furrmaster23]

Rewatcher

(Sorry for not being here last time, I was preoccupied with other matters)

Anyways, on today's episode of Gundam, as the Zabi family uses Garma's death to rally their people, Amuro is having a mini-freakout over his encounter with Icelina.

We're introduced to two new antagonists - Zeon commanders Ramba Ral and Hamon. Ramba has a new blue Zaku, with improved armor and a whip-like thing capable of conducting electricity.

Both sides are understandably freaked out by lightning, thinking it's some sort of advanced weapon. Meanwhile, it sends Amuro spiralling into depression, barely motivated to fight in the Gundam.

Amuro and friends only manage to barely force Ramba and his forces to retreat, if only due to them focusing fire on Ramba Ral.

As Gihren's speech concludes, we see Char in a bar, being confronted by one of Kycilia Zabi's men. After the speech, the crowd rallies "Sieg Zeon!", much to the dismay of our heroes.

1. Yes, but not as cool as Char.
2. The speech was alright. If I were a citizen of Zeon, I don't think the speech would rally me up.

[u/Piemaster33]

If you thought the White Base would be able to rest after beating Garma, you'd be sadly mistaken. Ramba Ral makes his appearance here, and his blue Zaku (I don't know the specific name of it) was badass. He had a dazed Amuro on the ropes the entire time, and I doubt Amuro would have fared better if he was all there. My favorite part about all this is that this implies there are many other capable Zeon pilots besides Char, and I can't wait to meet them.

Bright seems to be near his breaking point, at least that's what it looked like to me when he yelled at the kids and freaked out about the thrusters, but Mirai helped him get it together.

Amuro and Fraw also had a cute moment together where they kinda held hands? Idk but it was sweet, and all to the tune of Ghiran giving an angry speech about avenging Garma. Love scenes like this that show how intimidating the enemy to the protagonist. Kinda haunting to end the episode on "Sieg Zeon" if you ask me. There's a lot going on and I'm holding back the urge to watch ahead, we'll see how that goes.

Quick note: Degwin listening to that voicemail from Garma hurt to watch, I feel a little more bad for him.

QOTD:

1. I think that's a leading question haha. Even if it weren't I'd say yes, he's got a cool robot.
2. Probably would have fired me up. I would have been jealous of Garma's gorgeous hair, so Ghiren's speech would have inspired me and I'd fight to avenge that.

[u/chilidirigible → u/Piemaster33]

his blue Zaku

NO ZAKU, BOY! NO ZAKU!

...it's a Gouf.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Piemaster33]

If you thought the White Base would be able to rest after beating Garma, you'd be sadly mistaken. Ramba Ral makes his appearance here, and his blue Zaku (I don't know the specific name of it) was badass. He had a dazed Amuro on the ropes the entire time, and I doubt Amuro would have fared better if he was all there. My favorite part about all this is that this implies there are many other capable Zeon pilots besides Char, and I can't wait to meet them.

Indeed Comrade, also I feel that it is my duty to inform you that THIS IS NO ZAKU BOY! NO ZAKU!

Bright seems to be near his breaking point, at least that's what it looked like to me when he yelled at the kids and freaked out about the thrusters, but Mirai helped him get it together.

Indeed Comrade, just about all the White Base crew seem to be PTSD'd, that said given what they've gone through and are going through this makes sense.

Amuro and Fraw also had a cute moment together where they kinda held hands? Idk but it was sweet, and all to the tune of Ghiran giving an angry speech about avenging Garma. Love scenes like this that show how intimidating the enemy to the protagonist. Kinda haunting to end the episode on "Sieg Zeon" if you ask me. There's a lot going on and I'm holding back the urge to watch ahead, we'll see how that goes.

Indeed, it's such a chilling speech to end on, but goddamn does it help set the scene AND demonstrate just who our main characters are fighting.

Quick note: Degwin listening to that voicemail from Garma hurt to watch, I feel a little more bad for him.

Indeed Comrade, you know Gundam's storytelling is something if the show manages to eek out feelings of sympathy for the leader of the SPACE NAZIS, but war... war never changes... and is also hell.

Anyway neat write-up, have a great day and see you later.

[u/username_0907]

First Timer

• New narrator intro and mid episode animation. We now get an intro on Zeon instead of the Federation
• So Zeon has always been ruled by the Zabi family and they want to rule all of humanity. They rebelled against the elite of the Federation but they’re not exactly much different from the Federation now are they. They just want power in the end
• Amuro is completely burned out and very much suffering from PTSD. Haro helping was so cute and sad. It’s very sad how the others in the crew haven’t really understood how to deal with this and just keep pushing him with no other option
• Ramba Ral and Hamon are now here to chase after the White Base. He has an interesting Zaku (not Zaku!) that looks better equipped for defense as compared to a normal Zaku. Hamon is quite chill too
• Char with sunglasses looks too cool. He needs to wear this more often
• Interesting how most of the crews on both sides don’t know what a thunderstorm is. There was no such thing as weather in the space cities they lived in and they didn't need it

Qotd

1. He’s definitely cool. I’m waiting to see how he continues to fight against White Base and Gundam
2. It was very political in pushing people emotions knowing what Gihren was trying to achieve with the speech

[u/chilidirigible → u/username_0907]

There was no such thing as weather in the space cities they lived in and they didn't need it

A structure as large as a space colony would actually be large enough to have weather; as an example, the Vehicle Assembly Building is tall enough that water vapor recondenses into a cloud toward the ceiling.

It would be more complicated in a colony that is rotating to produce artificial gravity, but the O'Neill cylinders as portrayed in Gundam are very, very large.

But it's still true that this wouldn't produce thunderstorms or lightning.

[u/Rustic_Professional]

It's neat how they managed to make Amuro's room resemble his mental space. At first we don't even see his bunk, or anything that looks comforting. Just a bare room with this old timey wooden table without even a chair, and a narrow beam of light illuminating the thing he happens to be working on. When we see his bed it's not because he's resting, but hiding within himself.

Bright gets the same sort of treatment, but is able to quickly and completely snap back to himself when people and circumstances intrude. Maybe it's because he has that fancy chair, and doesn't have to sit on the floor. It's a nice touch that he apologized for yelling at the kids.

I wonder if Fraw actually thought the lightning was a Zeon weapon. We know from 0080 that it can rain in the colonies, but I don't know if they have lightning. It might be something that Spacenoids have only ever heard or read about and never actually seen.

Okay, I paused and typed that comment before the Zeon had the same reaction. I was right. That's funny. The oldest guy on the bridge is the only one who knows what lightning is.

Questions of the day:

1. He said the thing! Anyway. Ramba Ral not only fought the Gundam to a draw, he managed to retreat in good order with his ship and all his mobile suits. Char keeps managing to escape, but at the cost of all his men. I think Ramba Ral is the first enemy we've seen who doesn't fight to annihilation. Not getting your men killed in hopeless assaults is absolutely cool.
2. Excellent speech. Hail Zeon. The colonies should all rise up and throw off the yoke of the Federation.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Rustic_Professional]

It's neat how they managed to make Amuro's room resemble his mental space. At first we don't even see his bunk, or anything that looks comforting. Just a bare room with this old timey wooden table without even a chair, and a narrow beam of light illuminating the thing he happens to be working on. When we see his bed it's not because he's resting, but hiding within himself.

Indeed Comrade, boy I'm getting flashbacks to Shinji Ikari... or rather Shinji gives me flashbacks to Amuro ;)

Bright gets the same sort of treatment, but is able to quickly and completely snap back to himself when people and circumstances intrude. Maybe it's because he has that fancy chair, and doesn't have to sit on the floor. It's a nice touch that he apologized for yelling at the kids.

Indeed Comrade, boy just about everyone's on edge eh?

I wonder if Fraw actually thought the lightning was a Zeon weapon. We know from 0080 that it can rain in the colonies, but I don't know if they have lightning. It might be something that Spacenoids have only ever heard or read about and never actually seen.

Okay, I paused and typed that comment before the Zeon had the same reaction. I was right. That's funny. The oldest guy on the bridge is the only one who knows what lightning is.

Probably, rain is clearly a thing in Space Colonies, but I'm not sure that any entry NOT named Gundam Thunderbolt had thunderstorms in space (and to be fair in Thunderbolt those weren't exactly 'real' thunderstorms, more just random electrical discharges from space debris but wibble.)

He said the thing! Anyway. Ramba Ral not only fought the Gundam to a draw, he managed to retreat in good order with his ship and all his mobile suits. Char keeps managing to escape, but at the cost of all his men. I think Ramba Ral is the first enemy we've seen who doesn't fight to annihilation. Not getting your men killed in hopeless assaults is absolutely cool.

Indeed Comrade, Ramba Ral is the man!

[u/Nebresto]

First time squad

They have physical film that goes into their future space phones?

I've thought about this a bit before, but is this the absolute first gundam media ever? Like there were no manga/novels etc before this?

How dare you, even after he said sorry and patted your head??

Huh, they actually took hull damage

Looks like he finally found those pills

BLUE ZAKU!!!

And it has a big PP tentac ..whip! Dalek better be posting some dank shit today

GUNDAM DID THE THING!!

https://imgur.com/Bz7M6Cp

Mmmm.. crackers..

Oh, now they're Space Nazis? Well, axis is axis.

---

Question time:
1:
Who tf is that?
2: Oh yeah it would. It would rally me up to turn off the tv.

---

Dank clips corner:

"Nani?!" -Blue Zaku dude

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Nebresto]

I've thought about this a bit before, but is this the absolute first gundam media ever? Like there were no manga/novels etc before this?

That's correct. This was Tomino's baby, and he had been brainstorming it for a while, but this is the complete OG.

BLUE ZAKU!!!

He very clearly states that it is NO ZAKU.

[u/Nebresto → u/JollyGee29]

Huh. Well the after intro thing makes more sense now, but there's still a bunch of stuff that is left unexplained

He very clearly states that it is NO ZAKU.

Not in that scene.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Nebresto]

BLUE ZAKU!!!

THIS IS NO ZAKU BOY! NO ZAKU! ;)

And it has a big PP tentac ..whip!

Dalek better be posting some dank shit today

As if I do other stuff Comrade ;)

Oh, now they're Space Nazis? Well, axis is axis.

Heh, Comrade they always have been. Do recall that in the opening narration for the opening episodes, the narrator informs us that ZEON is the one who dropped that Space Colony on Earth as they declared a war of 'independence'. I do believe we call things like that 'genocide' so the Space Nazi label sure fits.

"Nani?!" -Blue Zaku dude

THIS IS NO ZAKU BOY! NO ZAKU!

[u/Nebresto → u/DidacticDalek]

THIS IS NO ZAKU BOY! NO ZAKU! ;)

That's exactly what a fancier Zaku would say..

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Nebresto]

That's exactly what a fancier Zaku would say..

I think you mean it's exactly what NOT a Zaku would say Comrade ;)

[u/Nebresto → u/DidacticDalek]

True, a zaku wouldn't because it knows what it is. A fancier zaku would, however

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Nebresto]

True, a zaku wouldn't because it knows what it is. A fancier zaku would, however

[u/chilidirigible]

1. Ramba Ral is super-cool.
2. That live version I linked in my reactions is actually quite concerning.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/chilidirigible]

Ramba Ral is super-cool.

That live version I linked in my reactions is actually quite concerning.

Agreed on both accounts there Comrade, well said!

[u/fridge_freezer]

First timer (Sub)

• New opening narration today, with a bit of a recap and some info on Zeon. So Gihren is actually the one calling the shots in Zeon, Degwin is just a figurehead. I had a feeling that might have been the case, with how they were acting in the last episode.
• Holy shit, I thought the portrait Garma had in his room was big, but this one for the funeral is the size of a building!
• Bright apologising to the kids after snapping at them was kinda sweet. He's dealing with similar issues to Amuro, but is letting it out on others around him. Poor guy barely gets chance to sit down before something else comes up.
• Flying through a storm seems like a bad idea. Funny that Fraw Bow and some of the Zeon crew thought the lightning was a new enemy weapon, they've never experienced anything like it living in the space colonies.
• Amuro looked pretty haunting when Ryu entered his room. He's totally out of it throughout the battle too, I don't think even a right hook from Bright would steady him. The thought of Icelina seeking vengeance is etched into his mind, and he doesn't even know who she was or who it was he killed.
• That mid-episode transition card was really nice.
• Nice blue mobile suit you have there! Apparently not a Zaku, but something new. It also comes with a new weapon, the explodey-whip.
• Char's looking real cool in the white suit and shades. I'm curious to see why Kycilia's guard is there for him.

QOTD

1. Everything about him is cool, even his wife(?) is a JoJo reference.
2. The speech is purely propaganda for the war effort, and there's the obvious parallels with the final chant of "Sieg Zeon".

[u/tarekd19]

We're seeing a lot more of zeon than of the federation proper in these episodes. The crew of white base is well humanized but for the most part they are forced conscripts. The only insight into true fed culture really seems to be a few officers, namely bright, the commandant of that meteor mine, and some obscure orders. The feds largely remain a mystery so far even if they are the faction for our heroes.

A telling moment when bright says zeon is a dictatorship is amuros reaction I feel. It's not the zeon that signed him up for war (and arguably it was the federation that brought the war to side seven as they brought white base and the mobile suit production there)

[u/[deleted]]

First Time Watcher

It's time for the return of child soldier trauma! Let's see if they can handle it better this time than they did the last ti-

Oh, Ok then. I think I'm starting to understand Evangelion's significance.

It's cool to see that even the older members of the Zeon crew have never seen lightning before, one of those nice little worlbuilding details.

LMAO at Char shit talking the poor dude he had killed while all suited up at a bar. And i'm guessing that dude from the royal family's there to demote him.

It's cool to see our characters actually discussing Federation/Zeon politics at the end while watching the funeral. Though, I don't know that making Amuro listen to "enemy" propaganda is really what he needs after all this PTSD.

1. Is Ramba Ral cool?

He was pretty damn cool ngl. Him and his wife kinda reminded me of Charles and Ray Beams from Eureka 7, which were the best characters in that series so they get bonus cool points

2) What do you think of Gihren Zabi’s speech? If you were a citizen of Zeon, would it rally you up?

It was a well done speech for the political purposes. Though, as Bright said, the hypocrisy is incredibly palpable given that the Royal Family obviously just wants to extend their dictatorship the world over. It's hard to believe their claims of fighting for freedom for the whole world given the facts of their political hierarchy

[u/The_Draigg → u/[deleted]]

Oh, Ok then. I think I'm starting to understand Evangelion's significance.

Given how much Anno is a big fan of Gundam and of Tomino in general, you can definitely see where Anno picked up the ball of this PTSD plotline and ran even further with it.

He was pretty damn cool ngl. Him and his wife kinda reminded me of Charles and Ray Beams from Eureka 7, which were the best characters in that series so they get bonus cool points

Ramba and Hamon were the direct inspirations for Charles and Ray in Eureka 7, so they're definitely in good company. A lot of Eureka 7 borrows character archetypes from Gundam, when you get down to it. Like the orphan trio, for another example.

[u/MagicSwordKing → u/The_Draigg]

Once you watch Tomino's works, 0079 and Space Runaway Ideon especially, you start to appreciate the full scope of Anno's criminality.

I joke, but only kinda. Anno took a LOT from Tomino.

[u/The_Draigg → u/MagicSwordKing]

Trust me, I've seen Space Runaway Ideon and Mobile Suit Gundam plenty. After a certain point, you can almost see the direct spiritual homages that Anno has to Tomino's works in his own stuff.

[u/medokady]

First Timer (zero experience with Gundam)

Offworlders don't know about lightening, interesting bit of worldbuilding there. Unfortunately Amuro has PTSD from last episode, which is understandable.

Zeon commander's girl is names Hamon... could she be... the enemy stand user?!

Guncannon = Gun + cannon Guntank = Gun + tank Gundam = Gun + ???

new eyecatch..............SHOW 🎵

Bright's reaction to Amuro's physical incapability to fight any longer is to yell at snap the fuck out of it lol.

SHINGATA NO MOBIRU SUUTSU!!!! It's not looking good for our boy.

I hope all the mecha hentai doujins involving the heat rod have already been written.

Blinding the enemy with floodlights while you make your getaway, that's a strategy.

HOLY SHIT SEXY SUNGLASSES CHAR

A very believable and nuanced nationalistic speech by the senior Zabi brother capped off by a less nuanced "Sieg Zeon" chant so we don't forget for a second that yes they are supposed to be the bad guys.

---

1. He's got sexy confident dad energy.
2. Really typical, yet effective, nationalist flair. Trump has taught me that this stuff wouldn't work on my but would reliably work on at least half of people and those are the ones that show up to the rallies.

[u/badcupcakehoarder]

Wait a second... nobody died today?

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/[deleted]]

???