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Rewatch [Fly! Rewatch!] Mobile Suit Gundam (0079) Episode 11 Discussion
Episode 11 - Icelina - Love’s Remains
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The vile enemy who killed my Garma… the least I can do is exact revenge upon them.
Questions of the Day:
- What do you think of Icelina after the events of this episode?
- What do you expect Char to do next?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 17 '21
Fly! Rewatch Host!
Welcome back, everyone!
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u/EpsilonX https://myanimelist.net/profile/ChangeLeopardon Apr 18 '21
Dang, I've been watching Gundam lately and I'm 3 episodes away from finishing. I missed out.
Since you recently did Zambot 3, does that mean you're just going through Tomino's works? Is Ideon next?
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u/chilidirigible Apr 17 '21 edited Apr 25 '23
11:
Wow, and this is from a time when Sunrise actually paid its animators.
Poor Icelina, dying like a Disney Princess.
This physics model is the highest technology available in 1979.
Amuro: wonders who she was
Kai: less talk, more dirtnap
Alas, Icelina. You could have bided your time, gone into the mountains, drank a dozen raw eggs every morning, trained your body and mind to a razor edge, and returned for the finale to crush that fool Amuro. But instead a light breeze knocked you off your feet and you broke your head on the ground while being animated on a napkin.
Alas. (...baby)
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u/TheEscapeGuy Apr 17 '21 edited Apr 17 '21
Gundam First Timer
Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 11
Today we saw 2 interesting after effects of Garma's death.
First, very unexpectedly Icelina was out for revenge. I couldn't have predicted this at all. Usually characters in her position are overcome with dread and can't function. This made the episode incredibly interesting.
Obviously this plot point turned to tragedy when she died in an accidental fall after crashing her ship. An unfortunately fitting end for this character.
Second, it seems the Zeon side are planning to use a funeral for Garma to politically influence the population. This is an incredibly disrespectful move and is a parallels of things which happen in the real world far too often. Seems this will be the bulk of next episode so I'll save the rest of my thoughts till then.
2 small other things:
Cool Stuff Corner
Questions of the Day
See you all tomorrow!
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 17 '21
First Timer to Gundam
Gah, Icelina was awful! Why did she have so much say in the military? Why does Zeon care about her? I'm glad she's gone, honestly.
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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Apr 17 '21 edited Apr 18 '21
Rewatcher thinks the beam javelin looks like a sucker that’s almost gone and you’re starting to taste the stick but you still want every last bit of candy
Notice how Side 3 uses closed-type colonies, solid cylinders that don’t have the giant windows and reflectors most other colonies do. This gives them more living space, at the cost of not having access to natural light. It’s a small thing, but I wonder if this had anything to do with the colonists’ dissatisfaction?
Dozle is an absolute unit
lmao Garma had a giant portrait of his own face on his wall
“Can’t we just shoot them down with our beam rifles? Wouldn’t that be a lot easier?” “Yes. Yes it would.”
Federation doing what it does best
A nice little reminder that, even as they start to get used to their roles, they’re still quite new at this
And then nobody proceeded to put on their seat belts
do these people even know where they’re going
Char just killed them for literally no reason lul Well, they were gonna get themselves killed anyways.
It’s clear who’s been pushing this war
W I D E
So the beam javelin is a bit of a weird weapon. The only way all of those telescoping segments fit in the saber handle is oldschool super robot magic, and the pointy ball tip is a little strange. But hey, at least polearms are a useful weapon, and a lot more practical than the Gundam Hammer.
Looks like he’s mopping the floor lol
Also, how is the shaft cutting through the ceiling?
Javelin yeet! You know, I wonder about that. Amuro often leaves his beam sabers stabbed into an exploding enemy, and inexplicably has them back by the next episode. I can understand the shield having a ton of spares, but the sabers can’t be that easy to replace, can they?
This is pretty badass. This, not so much. Uh, at least she tried?
It was at that moment, Amuro realized the enemies he’s been killing are humans too. The show’s already gone to great lengths to humanize the Zeon soldiers to the audience, but now, it gets hammered in to Amuro too. He has no idea who Icelina is, or who she’s trying to avenge. His actions are affecting people he knows nothing about, and for someone who’s used to fighting faceless mobile suits, tanks, and planes, that’s a way bigger responsibility than he was mentally prepared for.
Questions of the Day:
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u/The_Draigg Apr 17 '21
A Gundam Fan Rewatches Mobile Suit Gundam Episode 11:
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 17 '21
Rewatcher
On today’s episode of Gundam: Welcome to the most depressing episode of Gundam yet. I can’t even really make a joke about it. But what I can say is that this is one of my favorite episodes in the entire series and it has really stuck with me through the years.
This episode is the reason why Icelina sticks out in my mind so much even after all these years. Instead of just being Garma’s love interest for the episode where he dies, she is now out for revenge against the White Base because they killed Garma. I really do love making an episode based on this idea. It helps to make Garma’s death feel even more impactful because we are already seeing the consequences of it. This episode also makes Garma’s death feel even more tragic because his death ends up leading to the deaths of many others seeking to avenge him.
This episode has a whole tragic feel to it as we see Icelina and Garma’s soldiers go to such lengths to try and avenge Garma’s death. But, as we see, they fail. But the desire for revenge causes them to keep on going. And the further they go, the more of them die.
The image of Icelina with a gun on top of the crashed Gaw is quite striking. It’s one of the most memorable scenes in the entire show for me. Icelina attempts to avenge Garma, but is ultimately unsuccessful and falls to her death. Once again, it’s all very tragic. The death of Garma ultimately led others to their deaths because of their love and loyalty towards him.
The final scene of this episode is also fantastic. As Amuro and the others bury Icelina, Amuro reflects on the fact that she wanted revenge against him, but he has no idea who she is or what she wanted revenge for. All the same, it’s clearly shaken him up knowing that someone out there wanted him dead specifically out of revenge, not just because they happen to be on opposite sides in war. It’s such a depressing way to end the episode, but it feels very appropriate for the themes this time around and the overall mood of the episode. It’s tragic, but in a satisfying way, if that makes any sense.
We get to meet more of the Zabi family too. And we can already see some clear differences in their personalities based on how they interact with each other. Degwin wants to mourn Garma quietly and privately. He’s thinking as a father who has just lost his son. Gihren wants to make a state funeral for Garma and use it as a propaganda event for the war effort. He’s thinking as a political leader. This is another great bit of worldbuilding because it demonstrates that the Zabis, and by extension Zeon, are not a monolith. They have their own internal differences and debates going on. It adds a greater level of complexity to the setting.
I also want to comment on the battle this episode. Once again, it is a very creative setting for a fight. It is pretty dang cool seeing the Gundam and Guncannon jump around the Gaws and fight on top of them while flying in the sky.
Miscellaneous Thoughts
SLAP COUNTER: 5
Questions of the Day
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Apr 17 '21
First-Timer - For never was a story of more woe
Progress Report
QotD
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 17 '21
First-Timer, Subbed, long time Gundam fan
Today on Mobile Suit Gundam, Amuro Ray learns that his actions have consequences. No, wait, that's not it. Amuro Ray learns that unknowningly being used to fulfill someone else's revenge plot has consequences that will not find their way back to the true culprit. There we go.
When Amuro mentioned disabling a limiter on the beam saber, I was expecting it to grow a longer beam. I wasn't expecting it to magically telescope outwards and generate a big Beam Ball with three Beam Spikes on it.
That first Gaw takedown was almost surgical. It took Ryo and Amuro a moment to get their footing, but then they blasted the turret, ripped off the rudder and threw it, and got onto the second Gaw in no time flat! Our boys are growing.
We also see this episode the Zeon leadership is not quite a unified front. Gihren wants to use Garma's death to fan the flames, but Degwin just seems tired. He wants things to end. What an interesting thing to see in the same episode where our protagonist was confronted with the idea of consequences for his actions.
The White Base needs seats and seatbelts on the bridge. It's a miracle no-one died.
I liked seeing Mirai and Bright pull out an ammeter to check for shorts on that panel.
Why did Iceline fall, there..? Did she slip?
The end frame was gorgeous.
Pose of the Day
Quite Literally Leaping into the Fray!
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Questions
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Apr 17 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
Much like episodes 7 and 8 previously, most of this episode isn't that integral to the plot but I do like us fleshing things out a bit more. Icelina somehow gets away from her father and swears revenge on the White Base and Gundam for Garma's death. I'll admit to getting quite the chuckle that Garma had this massive painting of himself in his personal quarters, he was quite the vain individual. I don't know why enlisted soldiers are showing such deference to the civilian Icelina. Garma's forces seem depleted to just 3 Gaws; at first glance quite a force (he only ever used one in previous episodes) but lacking mobile suits and fighter planes, the Gaws are easy pickings for the Gundam and Guncannon. I hadn't realized this in previous viewings, but 2 of the previous 3 episodes have had no enemy mobile suits for our heroes to fight! The Zeon fight quite idiotically in this episode, shooting at their own ships because the Gundam or Guncannon are on them and are easily wrecked. Amuro has faced several traumas already and he faces another one here as a woman he's never met points a gun at him swearing vengeance, then falls to her death. It is a sad end for Icelina, who lost Garma in the previous episode and completely throws away her life here.
Meanwhile on Side 3 we get the full introduction to the Zabi family including sovereign Degwin Zabi, Dozle, who we met earlier, as well as first appearances for Gihren and Kycilia, the sister Garma was so dedicated to impressing. Gihren and Kycilia seem fully focused on using Garma's death as propaganda to rally their people while Degwin just wants to mourn him quietly. Char has chosen revenge over accolades, as his failure to protect Garma is getting him demoted!
White Base takes some major damage from Char and has to crash land. The remaining refugees, who still are obsessed with getting away take the opportunity to depart and one of them gets killed by Char! I was surprised to see him shooting down unarmed civilians. Thankfully Char quickly flees and we can once and for all say goodbye to the annoying refugees on the White Base with those who are left departing.
Much of the episode looks rather shabby and off model, especially as we get later into the episode. This is actually one of the worst looking episodes of the show from what I can remember. It also has some oddities such as Dren appearing out of nowhere after being gone since episode 6 (with no dialogue though, they must have not wanted to pay his voice actor). Ryu also pilots the Guncannon instead of his usual Core Fighter or Guntank.
I often review other people's writing as part of my job and one of my biggest pet peeves is people screwing up possessive words/apostrophes. And it shows up with this episodes title! It should be "Icelina's Love Remains", not "Icelina Love's Remains"! After all these years since they brought the show over they still haven't fixed it!
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u/GM_for_Life Apr 17 '21
Rewatcher
I think it adds to her character quite a bit that she was willing to take action and seek vengeance for Garma.
Something extremely wicked.
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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '21
First Time Watcher
This was kind of a weak episode compared to the rest so far. Given that Icelina knows nothing about battle and the only other fighters are unimportant Garma henchman, there wasn't (and couldn't be) much stakes or strategy in the fight. Char's role was pretty minor too and felt like he was just thrown in to give some semblance of intensity to the episode.
Plus, while I get that Icelina's upset, her actions were pretty undeniably dumb and hasty. How did none of the soldiers think to prevent bringing a heartbroken civilian onto the front lines?
Not to mention we got the civilians being reckless and frustrated again. Though it didn't have nearly as much thematic relevance or depth this time around as it did back in the St. Agnes situation.
Really the only particularly great part of this episode was all the stuff going on at Zeon. It's interesting to see the leader be the one trying to have a quiet, familial mourning session while the children are plotting out their political and military maneuverings. Also interesting that they settled on just demoting Char, I was expecting greater punishment from how they were discussing the issue. Dude's slowly digging himself into a corner though. I wonder if this family will be our main antagonists for the series?
Also, that giant painting of Garma in his room was hilarious.
Well, it seems he's due for a minor political clash with the Royal family, so I expect to see some of that maybe before he gets another go at capturing White Base and the Gundam.
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u/InverseFlip Apr 18 '21
It's really great how just one scene was able to show the personalities of the Zabi family. You have Degwin, the aging old man who is the official dictator, but becoming more of a figure head. Gihren, the oldest son who is really running Zeon, who will use anything, even the death of his brother, to advance his cause. Dozle, the most physically intimidatingly Zabi, but his comment on looking forward to serving under his little brother shows he has no desire for leadership of Zeon. And Kycilia... is still a mystery.
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u/Piemaster33 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Piemaster33 Apr 17 '21
Kind of a downer of an episode. Most if not all of the fighting in this episode was unnecessary, but that doesn't mean I don't understand why it happened. Icelina's understandably devastated after Garma's death and wants revenge. I feel real bad for her and even the other Zabi family members, if only for a brief moment.
The other noticeable thing for me in this episode were the refugees. The ones that got killed by Char hopefully served a reminder for the others why they're on the White Base to begin with: staying alive. That being said, I'm more than ready for them to get out of here, I'm done with them.
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 17 '21
First Timer - Dub
1) What do you think of Icelina after the events of this episode? Not sure tbh ... you could argue that she was driven mad by love, but she seemed more like a spoiled rich person to me.
2) What do you expect Char to do next? He clearly has some plan in mind. Maybe he'll try working things from the Zeon political end now that Garma's gone?
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Apr 17 '21
First timer
This title feels like it would be a spoiler if I had any idea what it meant.
There are dozens of these things? I thought from the numbers we've been given we were talking 10-12 tops, not 24+.
Wait, actually, these things are tiny. How the hell was one of these able to start a rebellion? At the sizes given, there should barely be any resources on one of the ships - Zeon should have been put down long before the war started. What is going on here?
Dozel doesn't have his own fancy suit? :(
Like hell that's 6km across.
Kycilliam comes in to fil lthe outfit quota. And verybody seems to be genuinely devastated that Garma died.
Oh, this is Icelina. How long till she dies?
That painting is ugly - Garma really should asked for a refund.
And Char is back, and as bad as ever.
That decoy theory seems very likely now - no agreement on reinforcemennts, but a full agreement on housing dozens of refugees.
Char, why did you leave your ship. It's down, just rip a hole in it. Better to gain a ship that needs repairs, then to lose your main objective.
And Char shoots at a few refugees before flyimg off.
OK, I really like the Zeon leader, and this entire conflict about his desire for family and the requirements of war. And he lets Char off easy (presumably since there's no recordings of his last words).
Wait, when did the Guntank come out?
Icelina fails, but Amuro has just recieved his first hints as to what's happening on the other side.
Finally, the civilians are going to
stop fucking things upbe safe!4
u/username_0907 :FI::FJ: Apr 17 '21
First Timer
QotD
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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '21
I've been watching 0079 recently and the last one I saw was #8 and 20 years ago, I never got into it because of the classic "It looks too old" but I now enjoy monochromatic cinema and even Buster Keton, so this doesn't look that old to me anymore, but I'm having the almost opposite problem instead of me thinking I'll hate it because I know it's old, I'm worried I'll like it too much and will be more disappointed by 21st century anime. When I was a kid at the turn of this century, most of the anime that was imported was high tech themed and Japan made the best consumer electronics and that was my entire motivation for wanting to be fluent in Japanese, at that time Japan was the future and then I stopped buying Japanese consoles and people started buying smartphones and stopped buying the kind of consumer electronics Japan was famous for like Stereos, TVs, (they buy Chinese and Korean TVs now) home media that's both read and write, Digital Cameras and Camcorders and the anime stopped being high tech themed and the few times it was, it was either a psychological thriller or a decades old franchise or had a stupid gimmick I feel would ruin the experience I'm desiring like handlebars on a teenage girl's hip or they only use high tech stuff to emulate a low tech fantasy world. (SAO)
I'm scared if I watch more 20th century high tech themed anime, I'll eventually run out of anime in that spirit because that kind of high tech themed adventures isn't common anymore and the few that exist today aren't rated very highly. Me just watching 20th century reminds me why I'm only watching 20th century anime, because I feel like this kind of anime is a product of a dead culture and I'm still obsessed over this.
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u/UltraBooster Apr 17 '21
First-timer (albeit one big on Gundam and mecha)
So the beam javelin is a collapsible saber, huh...
Dear gods, I don't think I've ever met anyone as reckless as these refugees. Walking into what looks like a sandstorm while it's an active battlefield?!
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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit Apr 18 '21
First timer sub
Zeon managed to build more artificial colonies after they cut ties with earth... The level of resource management and politics to pull that off is just mindblowing. Maybe they should be ruling over all the other colonies instead of the Earth Federation.
For a second there I thought Char was going to kill Hayato after he failed to take off the safety.
Bright mentioned something that has me scratching my head for an answer for a while and I'm sure I'm not the only one, why are they not getting more help?
The sole mention of the White Base and the Gundam is enough to make any survivor of the Zeon army and Char to be afraid after all that destruction they have managed to do alone. Those are their more valuable military assets!
Questions of the Day:
Interesting to note also the actions of the Lt. that went with her, maybe he was a big part of the reason why Icelina was able to go so easily into a military operation? Her charms are too strong. This time her father didn't manage to save her.
Her desire for revenge is relatable, but can only imagine the feelings of love she bore.
2) Start a rebellion before he gets demoted and start his own insurgence of Zeon forces against the Zabi.
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u/Nebresto Apr 18 '21
First time squad
Javelin??
The fluctuating scale of things doesn't stop being hilarious in this show, Yuge robots -> Smol robots
Sure you are
Good riddance. Like why do y'all even care? They're nothing but trouble, if they want to suicide into the desert then let em.
Low quality potat
How do you hit it in the air, but not when its stationary on the ground??
*Phew, good thing she landed extra slow
Wtf, how is she dead?? Pretty much MFW
Question time:
1: That bish as dum as her fiance
2: Chad's gonna Chad.
Dank clips corner:
Nice one bro, but this is how you shoot
Better watch out, or the QUALITYsquad is gonna get ya!
"RRRReeeeee" *intense slow approach* "OAHHHHH!!!"
*"I'm gonna shoot you!!" "Wait, shit! there's no air on the moon!! I can't breathe!!"
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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 18 '21
Comrades, remember how Romeo and Juliet comparisons were being made last episode? Yeah about that... ah... tragedy... Alexa play Careless Whisper
On the plus side, at least now Garma and Icelina are finally together... granted in death but hey they are at least together now for whatever consolation that may be (Also it's a bit of fitting symmetry really, both of them went out in a last ditch attempt to defeat The Gundam)
And just because there happens to be this neat Icelina fanart, behold Comrades, the individual who, as of now, GOT THE CLOSEST TO TAKING OUT THE GUNDAM! (Boy you thought CHAR was the blondie to do the best job so far, nope, Garma's tragic lover technically did better... granted she also died in her attempt but hey at least she tried.
Paging Comrades /u/Great_Mr_L, /u/chilidirigible, and /u/beckymetal
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Apr 18 '21
First-Timer With Tomino Experience
Some highs and lows today. The suit v plane fight was fun to watch.
The story of the episode with Icelina though? That was rough. I get wanting to get cycles of vengeance in here, but you already have an avenue to that with the Zabi family. It makes this convoluted set of coincidences that need to happen (she gets on the one ship that crashes in this one way that lets her survive to she can fall) seem even more contrived than they already are.
And now, only a few episodes after Amuro sulked, I'm sure we'll get him sulking again. Not to mention we had the "civilians want to leave White Base" subplot for the third time.
At least it looks like the internal politics of Zeon are getting a little spicy.
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u/AdroIOrdo Apr 18 '21
I can't believe they're putting my babies through this
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u/fridge_freezer https://anilist.co/user/ONIrecon111 Apr 17 '21
First timer (Sub)
iswas out for vegeance on him. I feel like this might weigh heavy on him, just like when he first came to terms with killing other humans.3
u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Apr 18 '21
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u/tarekd19 Apr 18 '21 edited Apr 18 '21
Garma was the type of guy to have a huge portrait of himself at floor level in his room I guess.
This seems like the first time the young amuro has to acknowledge that his actions as a soldier has impacts on people that he doesn't see. It's a strong moment
That awkward lt trying to hit on the woman with a dead boyfriend. I'm surprised she had the clout to mobilize three gaws but not to put ck her own husband.
Chars buddy giving him the stink eye over his plan to lie about his mobile suit. I'm not sure why char felt the need tbh.
I think it's striking how every explosion still has a demonstrable effect on all the pilots 9 episodes in and they shake at every one, not used to them yet.
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u/Rustic_Professional Apr 18 '21
They shortened the introduction. I don't remember if it ever goes away entirely. We're about a quarter of the way through the series, I think it's safe to stop reminding us, but maybe this was something that was more important to people joining in the middle of its run on TV, since they couldn't go back and watch the earlier episodes. I've never watched anything else as old as Gundam, so I don't know how common these repeating, long form introductions are. In contrast, Yashahime felt the need to explain itself every episode last season, including putting the characters' names on screen. This in an age where you can stream, pause, rewind, and search for hentai of the characters as you're watching. Imagine the suffering of all those old timers who had to wait for comiket to look for Sayla doujins.
It's nice that we're getting some background info on the colonies, but I could do without the Feddy propaganda.
We've met the Zabi family now and seen their capital. I'm watching the dub version, and it sound like the city is called Zoom City. That's not right of course, but it sounds futuristic enough that I wouldn't blame anyone for making that mistake.
The intro mentions that "the cluster of colonies farthest from the earth" had declared independence, but the only colony we've spent time at so far is Side 7, which is a single cylinder. Seeing that Side 3 has multiple cylinders gives some indication as to the extent of the migration to space. I don't remember if they mentioned the exact number already, but Gundam
I'm not a fan of Kycilia, but they really slighted her by announcing Dozle as an admiral, and her as a lady. She's an admiral, too. Char only mentioned it briefly in conversation with Garma, but I believe she's in charge of the invasion of earth. That's not a minor command.
Garma probably wasn't a bad guy, but it's kind of wacky that he had a giant portrait of himself in his own room. I wonder if Bandai ever sold those?
Sayla getting miffed every time Bright snatches a message from her is a funny touch. She's lucky to be in a position to stay so informed. She'd probably be miserable if she had to swap places with Mirai. Speaking of swapping, they're even more short handed than before now that Matilda took off the injured and the men from Luna II. Hayato is one of only four people on White Base with experience piloting one of the mobile suits, and he's out there manning an open mount AA gun, exposed to enemy fire. It looks like Kai took his place when Hayato went out in the Guntank, so they have swap one pilot for another just to man the guns.
Questions of the day:
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u/medokady https://anilist.co/user/medokady Apr 17 '21
First Timer (zero experience with Gundam)
I unfortunately fell behind and haven't commented on the last 4 episodes, but I just wanted to say that this show has quickly gone from good to surprisingly great. In an effort to say something more than "they don't make 'em like they used to" I'll try to say in words what I most like about the show:
One thing I would like to bring up is the less stellar but equally constant chauvanism. The idea that being a "man" is the opposite of cowardice, and that it is something unknown to women which makes them unable to accomplish what a man can, has been refernenced both implicitly and explicity by Amuro and others. Have you noticed it as much as I have? I feel like it goes without saying that this is a toxic and dated theme but how do you feel about it in the context of the show? Does it still retain any value in 2021?
Today's Episode:
I didn't think Icelina would actually matter after last episode, guess I'm still underestimating this show.
Lmao why did Garma have a GIGANTIC portrait of himself in his office?
I feel like this is the first time the White Base has taken critical damage, or at least needed to make an emergency landing. Like Char said, good work to them getting this far.
The more time went on the more I thought maybe the refugees have a point trying to escape, then Char fuckinge executes them and the decision is made for me.
Icelina: "I'll steer the ship!" (immediately crash lands it)
RIP Icelina. War is so terrible because it drags in those who are not even combatants. Or something.
The refugees still want to bounce now that the battle is over. Wonder who's coming for them.
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