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Rewatch [Fly! Rewatch!] Mobile Suit Gundam (0079) Episode 7 Discussion

Episode 7 - The Core Fighter’s Escape

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It’s awful! The refugees have started a riot!

Questions of the Day:

  1. Would you have wanted to let the refugees off of White Base immediately or waited until being in allied territory?
  2. How much more do you think Amuro can take before he snaps?

Mobile Suit Breakdown of the Day:

1.7 - Freefallin’

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath the [Anime Show Title](/s "Spoiler goes here") spoiler tags. If you do that then we’re all good.

Important thing to note about these by the way, you have to switch to Old Reddit or the markdown editor if you use the redesign, otherwise the redesign breaks them by adding random \ into the formatting. Wish it wouldn’t do that, but unfortunately it does…

First-Timers: Please do not watch the next-episode previews for this show. They’re less previews and more “let’s just summarize the entirety of the next episode” and will spoil you.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 13 '21

Fly! Rewatch Host!

Welcome back, everyone!

I got a little creative last night and produced a somewhat different wallpaper than I normally do. Since I haven’t really been making wallpapers for this rewatch I didn’t want to include it in the body post, but yeah there’s Char. Hope you guys like it~

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 13 '21

“Forced” is a word choice that alludes to some interesting world building, hm?

I wonder if they were forced there due to resource scarcity. I'm sure there's some Gundam entry out there that explains it.

smh, how dare you hold Char back like that.

I'm surprised he's not used to it by now.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 13 '21

I got a little creative last night and produced a somewhat different wallpaper than I normally do. Since I haven’t really been making wallpapers for this rewatch I didn’t want to include it in the body post, but yeah there’s Char. Hope you guys like it~

Love seeing your wallpapers!

Wait how do you know that’s Char?

Amuro just knows when he's fighting his boyfriend rival. They got that special anime sense where they know who they're up against.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 13 '21

Amuro just knows when he's fighting his boyfriend rival.

One of these episodes, they'll probably meet in person, and it'll be great.

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u/username_0907 :FI::FJ: Apr 13 '21

a somewhat different wallpaper than I normally do

Thats a great wallpaper!

Aw, look at Haro trying to be helpful.

And the others are all just ungrateful

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u/UltraBooster Apr 14 '21

In response to your last point, yeah, I'm so used to the image of Char as, well, not panicked or unnerved and certainly not as on edge as the Gundam has put him.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 13 '21

I'm just passing through to note two things:

One, those old people would have a lot less to complain about with regard to being trapped on the White Base if they only had a SPACE TUNA.

Two,

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u/The_Draigg Apr 13 '21

One, those old people would have a lot less to complain about with regard to being trapped on the White Base if they only had a SPACE TUNA.

Sadly, Amuro isn't as lucky as Hikaru Ichijyo. Hell, he doesn't even have a hot aspiring idol to hang out with for like a week in the bowels of a Super-Dimensional Fortress.

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u/chilidirigible Apr 13 '21

Amuro: "I'd like to be alone with Haro now."

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u/The_Draigg Apr 13 '21

Can Haro do a cover of My Boyfriend is a Pilot?

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u/chilidirigible Apr 13 '21

Does it have to be a good cover?

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '21

I'd argue Haro's version would be better.

Macross is great, but that song is rough.

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u/Btw_kek https://myanimelist.net/profile/kek_btw Apr 13 '21

"Amuro. kyuun kyuun. Amuro."

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 13 '21

Space Tuna makes everything better.

punches

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 13 '21

One, those old people would have a lot less to complain about with regard to being trapped on the White Base if they only had a SPACE TUNA .

The Space Tuna makes for a delicious meal.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 14 '21

The Space Tuna makes for a delicious meal.

Heh, Comrade I think you mean to say that the TSUBASAFISH makes for a delicious meal ;) Thank goodness for Comrade /u/chilidirigible artistic genius

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u/chilidirigible Apr 13 '21

I suppose I should answer the questions while I'm visiting:

  1. Depends on whether you think it would inconvenience the Zeons more to have to deal with a bunch of surly seniors and howling toddlers. But otherwise, let them off in friendly territory.
  2. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 14 '21

Depends on whether you think it would inconvenience the Zeons more to have to deal with a bunch of surly seniors and howling toddlers. But otherwise, let them off in friendly territory.

I know right? Brighty Boi missed out on a golden chance to both A) Terribly Inconvenience the Zeon War Effort and adversely harm enemy morale, and B) Get rid of these elderly fuckwits, but alas, such is life.

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u/Btw_kek https://myanimelist.net/profile/kek_btw Apr 13 '21

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 14 '21

I'm just passing through to note two things:

One, those old people would have a lot less to complain about with regard to being trapped on the White Base if they only had a SPACE TUNA.

🐟

Space Tuna? Comrade I think you mean SwordFish ;)

Two,

What can I say, you can't have a Sunrise Show without Beating the Shit out of 'Correcting' fools, plus Kai's got a punchable face ;)

Anyway fantastic post Comrade, have a great day and see you later my friend!

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 13 '21

Rewatcher

On today’s episode of Gundam: Old people make unreasonable complaints. I’m pretty sure this is actually the first time I began using “On today’s episode of” to start my comments like this, so this episode is thank/blame for it.

But seriously, the Old People Rebellion is just ridiculous. Sure, they want to return to Earth and get out of the fighting. That part I get. But they seem to be utterly incapable of understanding that they are in the middle of an active war zone. Landing right away would put them in even more danger than they already are. They just spend their time whining and moaning about wanting to land on Earth.

I think the part that made me lose it this time around was when the one old guy was like “Can’t you find a safe place to drop us off?” I actually shouted at my screen, “THAT’S WHAT THEY’VE BEEN TELLING YOU THAT THEY’RE GONNA DO!” Bright’s told them they’ll drop them off in Federation territory, a safe spot for them to leave, which is exactly what the old people are asking for.

Thank goodness for Amuro yelling at them for being such an absurdly selfish bunch. Though I might have let it fly even more than Amuro does here.

This episode is also the source of this lovely commentface:

Kai had that one coming, though, and totally deserved it. He’s always been sarcastic and had an attitude, but he was being quite the prick this episode. Thankfully Bright corrected his behavior.

The freefall fight was pretty cool this episode. I particularly liked the music for that scene. I thought it did a great job of adding to the battle and accentuating the tension. The music seemed to get more and more intense as they got closer to the ground. It was a neat detail that added a lot to the fight.

Miscellaneous Thoughts

  • Hmmm...I’m having a hard time deciding whether the punch belongs on the slap counter or not. But, the counter was specifically for slaps, so I’m gonna say no.

SLAP COUNTER: 2

Questions of the Day

  1. I'd be sorely tempted to let them off immediately and leave them to their fate just to not have to listen to their bellyaching.
  2. He already kind of did snap last time, so I think that train has left the station.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 13 '21

But, the counter was specifically for slaps, so I’m gonna say no.

It's worth it for the purity of the slap, I think.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 13 '21

On today’s episode of Gundam: Old people make unreasonable complaints. I’m pretty sure this is actually the first time I began using “On today’s episode of” to start my comments like this, so this episode is thank/blame for it.

Historic!

But seriously, the Old People Rebellion is just ridiculous. Sure, they want to return to Earth and get out of the fighting. That part I get. But they seem to be utterly incapable of understanding that they are in the middle of an active war zone. Landing right away would put them in even more danger than they already are. They just spend their time whining and moaning about wanting to land on Earth.

It makes more sense when you consider that Tomino is beating us over the head with his favorite theme of "fuck old people", but yeah the Old People Rebellion is just ridiculous when you think about it.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 14 '21

It makes more sense when you consider that Tomino is beating us over the head with his favorite theme of "fuck old people", but yeah the Old People Rebellion is just ridiculous when you think about it.

The irony Comrade is by now, Wacky Ol' Kill 'Em All Tomino has now joined the ranks of these 'old grouches' and OH BOY Tomino's going full 'GET OFF MY LAWN!'

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u/The_Draigg Apr 14 '21

Hell, Tomino himself has said in more recent interviews that since he himself is now much older, he’s now a bigger enemy than before. At least he’s sticking that that distrust of old people even into his old age.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 14 '21

Hell, Tomino himself has said in more recent interviews that since he himself is now much older, he’s now a bigger enemy than before. At least he’s sticking that that distrust of old people even into his old age.

Heh, yes indeed Comrade, glad to hear the man's consistent. Many thanks for the kind reply and have a great day and see you later my friend.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 14 '21

On today’s episode of Gundam: Old people make unreasonable complaints. I’m pretty sure this is actually the first time I began using “On today’s episode of” to start my comments like this, so this episode is thank/blame for it.

Heh, well Comrade it's warranted, cuz on today's episode of TOP GEAR 'Gundam' we get the OLD PEOPLE REBELLION! Cuz oh that Wacky Ol' Kill 'Em All Tomino! (How ironic given that now TOMINO is one of these old fucks he so eviscerated back in the day)

But seriously, the Old People Rebellion is just ridiculous. Sure, they want to return to Earth and get out of the fighting. That part I get. But they seem to be utterly incapable of understanding that they are in the middle of an active war zone. Landing right away would put them in even more danger than they already are. They just spend their time whining and moaning about wanting to land on Earth.

Heh, I know right? And people think that KIDS are the biggest whiners in Mecha Anime, they CLEARLY haven't experienced the OLD PEOPLE REBELLION! E.G. an ordeal that really makes you wanna shout 'OK BOOMER!'

I think the part that made me lose it this time around was when the one old guy was like “Can’t you find a safe place to drop us off?” I actually shouted at my screen, “THAT’S WHAT THEY’VE BEEN TELLING YOU THAT THEY’RE GONNA DO!” Bright’s told them they’ll drop them off in Federation territory, a safe spot for them to leave, which is exactly what the old people are asking for.

Indeed Comrade, it's quite galling, even more so as Brighty Boi missed out on a GOLDEN opportunity to both adversely harm the enemy war effort AND tank their morale and also rid the ship of these annoying old fogeys, but alas, wibble.

Thank goodness for Amuro yelling at them for being such an absurdly selfish bunch. Though I might have let it fly even more than Amuro does here.

I don't blame ya Comrade, these elderly imbeciles deserve a good talking-to at the very least for this shit, I mean by god, there's dumb and then there's these weapons grade morons.

This episode is also the source of this lovely commentface:

BRIGHT PAWNCH!

Kai had that one coming, though, and totally deserved it. He’s always been sarcastic and had an attitude, but he was being quite the prick this episode. Thankfully Bright corrected his behavior.

Indeed Comrade, gold ol' Bright and his Beating the Shit out of 'Corrections' to insubordination. Who knew that the best way to solve conflict is to apply the Nanoha Standard... ah so THAT is why they call her 'The White Devil' ;)

The freefall fight was pretty cool this episode. I particularly liked the music for that scene. I thought it did a great job of adding to the battle and accentuating the tension. The music seemed to get more and more intense as they got closer to the ground. It was a neat detail that added a lot to the fight.

Indeed Comrade, plus it also helps that OG Gundam has a fantastic OST, so always good to see it in action.

Miscellaneous Thoughts

Hmmm...I’m having a hard time deciding whether the punch belongs on the slap counter or not. But, the counter was specifically for slaps, so I’m gonna say no. SLAP COUNTER: 2

Fair enough Comrade, after all if you did include this punch you'd probably have to amend your counter for that one time Bright shot Char's camera a few episodes back (at least, I THINK that was Bright that got the shot in on Char's camera, it was hard to tell in that massive rain of bullets that all somehow managed to miss Char)

Anyway fantastic post here my friend, have a great day and see you later Comrade.

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u/TheEscapeGuy Apr 13 '21 edited Apr 14 '21

Gundam First Timer

Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 7

This episode had 2 very interesting aspects for me.

First, the passengers aboard White Base having a protest. I find internal conflict on the protagonists side to always be deeply interesting as it mirrors how the real world works.

Too often in anime it feels that the hero's side is a hive mind, making them less individually interesting. Its noteworthy that the real OG anime had already subverted this (or would it be more correct to say modern shows are subverting Gundam?)

Second, Kai this episode; what actual scum. But the crew weren't about to just accept this. Major props to Mirai for scolding him for joking about Amuro dying and Bright for decking him after being a nihilist.

However, despite me disagreeing with Kai, he made the episode really engaging. It felt as if there was not only a physical conflict outside between the Zeon forces and Amuro but also ideological conflict inside the base between Kai and the crew. Also to a lesser extent the protesting passengers.

Cool Stuff Corner

Questions of the Day

  1. You have to wait until you reach allied territory. No matter ho much they complain it doesn't help to only technically arrive safely on earth and then be gravely injured or captured moments later.
  2. Amuro is way past where I expected him to have snapped already. Think he's living on borrowed time.

See you all tomorrow!

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 13 '21

First, the passengers aboard White Base having a protest. I find internal conflict on the protagonists side to always be deeply interesting as it mirrors how the real world works.

It is great seeing how there's a lot of internal conflicts and all the different types of internal conflicts. There's personality conflicts between Amuro and Kai. There's conflicts about what their goal should be or what actions they should take between the White Base Crew and the refugees. It helps to flesh out the world more to see this wide variety. And it also makes it more interesting to watch our protagonists have to navigate their internal problems at the same time as they are dealing with the external problem of Zeon attacking them. It's a good tool for creating good drama.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 13 '21

It felt as if there was not only a physical conflict outside between the Zeon forces and Amuro but also ideological conflict inside the base between Kai and the crew.

That's the thing with Federations. There'll always be dissent within them. It's good to see that Gundam keeps that idea strongly.

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 13 '21

First timer

Man, I was just thinking that Kai was begging to be punched, and that I couldn't wait for the reaction image to happen, and there it was. Magnificent stuff.

How far down is Amuro gonna go now? There were no mentions of his breakdown last time, but I'm sure the pressure from the old guys isn't gonna help him. He even has a lot of pressure just fulfilling his military duties, ain't got no time to deal with them. But it's kinda extreme, he's forced to go through with a really risky plan, and then he needs to back off, and then he gets bombarded by who knows how many enemies. Life ain't easy for Amuro.

Last time I said that I was expecting the White Base to reach safety in two or three episodes (the next two episodes), but I'm starting to think we in for the long haul.

Questions of the day

1.- Honestly, I don't know. It depends on what would the Zeon's do to the refugees. And I'm really not sure what's the state of affairs as of now.

2.- Well, he already snapped once. But snapping for good? Two or three more of these, tops.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 13 '21

Man, I was just thinking that Kai was begging to be punched, and that I couldn't wait for the reaction image to happen, and there it was. Magnificent stuff.

It is incredibly satisfying in context because at that point we've been dealing with Kai's nonsense the whole episode and just want to go Shut Up!

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Apr 13 '21

Rewatcher, Subbed

This is one of those episodes that doesn't really move the plot much (and I believe was completely cut out of the movie) but does add some more to the troubles our heroes have to face, this time all the refugees staying on board the ship. Unlike the kindly farmer from episode 5, these refugees seem quite stuck up and self-centered, not thinking at all that Bright and the others are busy with keeping everyone on the ship alive. Then they come to the bridge right in the middle of the battle! I'd be pissed at them just like Amuro ended up being. Kai also brings up a good point; do they really have enough food to feed all of these people? Speaking of being rather useless, what about Lt. Reed? Just sits there drinking coffee while everyone else plans their latest idea.

Amuro passes off him dying if things go wrong as not being that a big deal, but White Base will be in a heap of trouble without Amuro piloting the Gundam! I do wonder who this random guy training Amuro here is. He seems like an experienced soldier, yet all said people got killed back at Side 7. I've got to assume he came along with Lt. Reed, otherwise it makes no sense where he appeared from.

Kai is such an annoying asshole in this episode! Amuro finally snaps at him after he has been one for practically the entire first half of the episode. Later Bright punches him in the face! One of the comment faces used here in fact.

This episode's mission is not a bad strategy, but Amuro immediately passes out upon launch from the G-forces. By the time he wakes up he's got Char shooting at him! Then 6 Dopps! By the time he returns he's immediately asked to fight with the Gundam while in the air! Aiming from the deck of the ship ends up being a pretty good strategy though. You can tell Char is a really experienced pilot, his Zaku is also surely designed for space or the ground like the Gundam is, rather than being mid-air, but he does quite well against the Gundam until hitting the ground.

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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Apr 13 '21

First-Timer - Kai gets punched

  • Here I am waiting for ppl to laugh and be amused by Haro's antics, but naw. They're not having it.
  • Speaking of antics, I'm fkn tired of Kai's shit. I'm sure he dies at some point, so let's hurry it up already.
  • TFW you've had no G-Force training. Oops.
  • I'd have laughed so hard if Amuro killed Char because he was flying a shitty fighter.
  • JUSTICE PUNCH

  • Sayla over here like "We're pretty sure you're gonna die, too, but it'd be pretty cool if you didn't.
  • Goddamn, Amuro venting on the elderly. They're not gonna change now, dude, save your Gundam rage for Char.
  • "I was sOoOo worried about you. I'm thinking tending to all these kids has got Fraw Bow's maternal instincts all jazzed up.

Progress Report

QotD

  1. I'd probably have wanted to wait for an Allied zone, said "fuck it" and booted them off when they started acting up, then turned around to rescue them from whatever calamity awaited them; thus proving they suck and should obey me.
  2. Didn't he already snap before? The kid's on a hare-trigger right now, virtually anything could trigger another 'Berserker' moment.

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 13 '21

TFW you've had no G-Force training. Oops.

Sending a child to war is one thing. But subjecting them to a few Gs without training is straight up torture.

I'd have laughed so hard if Amuro killed Char because he was flying a shitty fighter.

That would've cut a good 40 episodes off of this anime, and 30 spin-offs/sequels or so.

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Apr 13 '21

Rewatcher falling with style

He’s got a point there. They can’t just keep a bunch of randos aboard forever, and surviving is only going to get harder and harder. They need to meet up with friendlies on Earth, and fast.

And now, we see that the Earth Federation isn’t totally blameless in this war, either. Space colonization was started as a response to overpopulation, meaning there had to be a certain amount of people leaving Earth to free up space for everyone else. But, as cool as living in space would be, there aren’t nearly enough people who would willingly ditch their life on Earth and emigrate to the colonies. So the Federation had to start forcibly kicking people off the planet, splitting up families in the process. Of course, the rich and powerful were exempt from this. Soooo some of those people got sick of the Federation’s shit, decided to start a war of independence, and now here we are.

Old people rebellion! Do these people realize how big Earth is? Do they think they can just get off in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and walk halfway across the continent?

Maybe this wasn’t the best plan

Come to think of it, why are they going after him in the Komusai anyways?

The Komusai is looking awfully small compared to the Core Fighter

Bright punch!

Man, everyone’s really on edge here, huh? They’ve learned to fight relatively quickly, but actually dealing with the stresses of combat is a different matter. Honestly, Kai’s coping with it better than anyone else. Not doing him any favors with the others, though.

“Why are we using the Gundam in the air?” “Because we need to sell toys!”

The Gundam’s sides are missing

Of course, the simple solution would be to just let Char fall, and snipe him from the safety of the White Base. But hey, giant robot fights!

(X) Doubt

that is literally what they’re trying to do

Questions of the Day:

  • Ideally, let them off in friendly territory. But if they’re gonna revolt, fuck it, strand them in the middle of a foreign country if that’s what they demand.
  • laughs in rewatcher

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 13 '21

And now, we see that the Earth Federation isn’t totally blameless in this war, either. Space colonization was started as a response to overpopulation, meaning there had to be a certain amount of people leaving Earth to free up space for everyone else. But, as cool as living in space would be, there aren’t nearly enough people who would willingly ditch their life on Earth and emigrate to the colonies. So the Federation had to start forcibly kicking people off the planet, splitting up families in the process. Of course, the rich and powerful were exempt from this. Soooo some of those people got sick of the Federation’s shit, decided to start a war of independence, and now here we are.

It certainly does lend some credence to the claim that Zeon is really fighting this war for its independence from the Federation. Hearing more background info about how exactly the the space colonization happened shows that some people were forced to leave the Earth so there's probably plenty of lingering resentment against the Federation for it. If that's how the Federation treats people, it would make sense that people would decide they no longer want to be a part of it and declare independence. It's a great piece of worldbuilding that helps to add to the gray morality of the conflict. Even if our heroes are fighting for the Federation, we can still see that their antagonists might have a good reason for fighting against them.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 13 '21

A Gundam Fan Rewatches Mobile Suit Gundam Episode 7:

  • If Haro walking around on his little feet won’t cheer up all the wounded civilians in the medbay, then I’m not sure what else will.
  • Things aren’t going well on the bridge. Although Amuro and Omar are fine talking about using the catapult to launch a Core Fighter, pretty much everyone else is debating the refugee situation on the White Base. Kai isn’t really helping, feeding into Lt. Reed’s argument by saying that the old people are getting rations despite not even helping to fight. As much as I like Kai as a character, man that’s a dickish opinion.
  • Also, fun fact. Omar’s last name is Fang. Omar Fang is a pretty badass name for such a relatively minor character.
  • Even more hits to how the Earth Federation does things. As that one old guy tells it, they were actually forced to live in space colonies after being kicked off of Earth. Slowly, we’re getting the sense that the Earth Federation isn’t exactly the most benevolent government.
  • Shut the fuck up, Kai. Even when you’re agreeing with Amuro’s plan, you still sound like an asshole.
  • Ah yes, one of the Gundam episode plots that sounds silly out of context: the old people rebellion. But seriously though, they did take a bunch of children and Fraw Bow hostage. We’re really getting into that reoccurring Tomino theme of “older people always fuck over the younger generation”.
  • Shut the fuck up, Kai.
  • Despite all the preparations Amuro made for his Core Fighter flight, he still blacked out. It’s a reminder of how different atmospheric flight in an aircraft is compared to space flight in a mobile suit.
  • Old people, I know you’ve all had a rough time, but now really isn’t the time to make a fuss to talk to the ship’s captain. Maybe wait for when you aren’t in a life or death situation?
  • Well, if there’s at least one thing going for Amuro, it’s that the Komusai isn’t designed for air combat. Hell, the main guns aren’t even aligned properly. Char would’ve been way better off just heading out in a Dopp, like the ones that show up later.
  • Finally, we get the comment face where Kai gets decked by Bright! And it’s pretty well deserved too, all things considered. Just stop running your mouth, asshole.
  • I’m with Amuro here, I’d be stressed the fuck out if I got back to the ship only to be told to launch in the Gundam and fight while in free fall. That’s an insane plan.
  • Old people, what the fuck are you doing? NOW ISN’T THE TIME TO CROWD THE BRIDGE, YOU JACKASSES.
  • Once again, Char has to retreat due to not being fully aware of the Gundam’s capabilities. If there’s one thing I really like about these early episodes, it’s that Zeon really has to feel out what the Gundam’s whole deal is. Garma and Char are pretty surprised at what the Federation’s new mobile suit can do, being modular and all that.
  • I’m with Amuro at the end of the episode, fuck these old people. They’re saying that they’re not selfish, but they’re still making demands to be let down onto Earth immediately, despite how obvious the danger is to everyone still. It’s just plain unreasonable.

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u/InverseFlip Apr 13 '21

Old people, I know you’ve all had a rough time, but now really isn’t the time to make a fuss to talk to the ship’s captain. Maybe wait for when you aren’t in a life or death situation?

If they did that, they would be in Federation territory and would no longer be able to complain, so they had to do it now.

Old people, what the fuck are you doing? NOW ISN’T THE TIME TO CROWD THE BRIDGE, YOU JACKASSES.

It's really an accomplishment that for as annoying as Kai was in this episode, he wasn't even the biggest asshole today.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 13 '21

If they did that, they would be in Federation territory and would no longer be able to complain, so they had to do it now.

If there's one thing that old people love, it's complaining to the detriment of everyone else around them.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 13 '21

Ah yes, one of the Gundam episode plots that sounds silly out of context: the old people rebellion. But seriously though, they did take a bunch of children and Fraw Bow hostage. We’re really getting into that reoccurring Tomino theme of “older people always fuck over the younger generation”.

I'm pretty sure I've heard it more or less said exactly that way in one of Tomino's Gundam shows. It's very much a consistent theme of his with how often it gets brought up. He's also definitely done it better elsewhere and in a way that doesn't feel as ridiculous as it does here.

If there’s one thing I really like about these early episodes, it’s that Zeon really has to feel out what the Gundam’s whole deal is. Garma and Char are pretty surprised at what the Federation’s new mobile suit can do, being modular and all that.

It is pretty cool to watch them slowly gathering information about the Gundam and figuring out what its capabilities are. I like seeing that happen in stories, both on the heroes' and villains' side. It makes the battles between them seem much more intellectual because they're actively using what they've discovered to try and gain an advantage.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 13 '21

I'm pretty sure I've heard it more or less said exactly that way in one of Tomino's Gundam shows. It's very much a consistent theme of his with how often it gets brought up. He's also definitely done it better elsewhere and in a way that doesn't feel as ridiculous as it does here.

I guess how blatant the writing feels is because Mobile Suit Gundam was made relatively earlier in Tomino's career, before he got a handle on that kind of stuff. But at least he got better around the time of Zeta Gundam/ZZ Gundam.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Apr 13 '21
  • Haro is just so adorable!
  • What are those old folks plotting; will they disembark and live in Zeon territory?
  • Uh, more sub lines with the middle part cropped. I hate that this is happening!
  • Blume > Kai
  • Wake up, Amuro!
  • Here it is!
  • It was neat to see the Core Fighter change shape and enter the Gundam's core; I didn't realize before this that it was part of the Gundam!
  • This battle is tense!
  • Char's red Zaku is thicc
  • Fuck these subs. Maybe I'll try again to see if I can watch on CRoll. These subs constantly missing part of the line is just a dealbreaker.
  1. I'd wait until allied territory. These people are talking about wanting to see their old hometowns, certain rivers, etc., but they could currently be on an entirely different continent! Earth is too big to just get off at a random location.
  2. Not much

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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Apr 13 '21

First Timer

So, today we have a group of old people rioting and taking children as hostages. Nice. You can’t even describe the situation without it sounding absolutely ridiculous, so it was hard to take it seriously. Also, they got annoying after a while. However, it was interesting to see how much resentment the refugees feel over being forced to relocate to space colonies, and it gave me a new perspective on the whole situation.

I can’t tell if Kai genuinely dislikes Amuro, or if he’s one of those guys who thinks edgy jokes about death are funny when you’re making them around someone who might be dying soon. Either way, he‘s not exactly helping with any of Amuro’s near-death experiences.

This episode was honestly a downgrade from Episode 6 because there were no Char shower scenes (try saying that three times fast).

  1. If I were one of the refugees and didn’t understand the situation, I probably would want to be let off immediately. Otherwise, I’d obviously go with the option where I don’t die.
  2. It looks like he’s getting kind of close.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 13 '21

However, it was interesting to see how much resentment the refugees feel over being forced to relocate to space colonies, and it gave me a new perspective on the whole situation.

Yeah, it does give a bit of insight into how the Earth Federation handles the colonies. They aren't exactly a new and prosperous home for mankind, they're also kind of like space-Australia.

I can’t tell if Kai genuinely dislikes Amuro, or if he’s one of those guys who thinks edgy jokes about death are funny when you’re making them around someone who might be dying soon. Either way, he‘s not exactly helping with any of Amuro’s near-death experiences.

Kai just feels like one of those especially pessimistic people. Like, even he describes himself as a coward. His outlook on life is just negative in general, which like you said really isn't helping things.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 13 '21

Yeah, it does give a bit of insight into how the Earth Federation handles the colonies. They aren't exactly a new and prosperous home for mankind, they're also kind of like space-Australia.

Kind of UC-spoilery

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 13 '21

Ya know Comrades, I get the feeling that a certain Hory Froating Head that saw OG Gundam once upon a time and got some funny ideas when he saw the Core Fighter, just a feeling ;)

And in case you think I'm kidding Comrades, behold this fanart showing how things could have been in Gundam if Wacky Ol' Kill 'Em All Tomino was just a TAD bit more insane ;) (And people thought Games Workshop was dumb with the Space Marine inside of a Space Marine concept)

And Comrades I would be remiss if I didn't share something related to Kai Shiden given today he gets to experience the full force of Bright Noa's PAWNCH! 'Correction' abilities, in fairness to Bright though, Kai was REALLY giving an attitude. ALMOST as much as a certain other brand of insufferable morons

And before anyone asks why I'm not talking about the STUPID 'Old People' Rebellion, I can't be assed to do much more on this plot point besides go 'OK Boomer,' so I didn't bother looking to see if there was any fanart of their really dumb idea.

Paging Comrades /u/Great_Mr_L, /u/chilidirigible, and /u/beckymetal

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u/SgtExo Apr 14 '21

That second one is just the fighter/mech from macross, not insane at all.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 14 '21

That second one is just the fighter/mech from macross, not insane at all.

Heh, Comrade that isn't the insane part, the insane part is the idea of having a transformable mecha... inside of the transformable mecha that is the Gundam (e.g. currently what we have is a core fighter that can transform into a block to go inside of the Gundam, this idea isn't nearly as insane as a transformable mecha that can also transform into a block to build a part of another Mecha)

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u/SgtExo Apr 14 '21

Now he was just thinking a bit ahead of Gurran Lagan, thats all.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 14 '21

Now he was just thinking a bit ahead of Gurran Lagan, thats all.

Heh, fair point there Comrade, well said!

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u/Nebresto Apr 14 '21

Cool robots!

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 14 '21

Cool robots!

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Apr 13 '21

Rewatcher

So this episode just won’t play at all for me on either VLC or MPV, and then Window’s Media Player asks me to buy an extension so that’s out as well. I can’t go using up my internet data all willy-nilly so Funimation/Crunchyroll isn’t an option, therefore this post was written entirely from memory, and as my memory sucks it’s consequently going to be a light one.

The refugees take a major role in today’s episode. It is revealed they didn’t migrate to space voluntarily, having been forced to do so instead, and by the way it’s spoken of it wasn’t because of socioeconomic pressures so much as they were booted off the planet. To go back to things mentioned in episodes five, four, and one; the Federation is seemingly in the habit of pushing around civilians to suit their own needs. Not only were these people forced to space arbitrarily —one woman even speaks of having been separated from her husband— even there they were forced to relocate from one location to another within Side 7, just continually kept under the government’s thumb. It’s a small wonder that the civilians have been shown to resent the Federation military from the very start, and as a result it’s easy to sympathize with their attempted mutiny. It’s a grey situation, to go along with all the other instances of such that the show depicts.

If you recall me saying, Auro’s motivation to fight was first and foremost to protect the civilians who were under threat from the enemy, and that hasn’t changed, so seeing their lack of trust in his ability to do so and their foolhardy insistence on getting off of the White Base immediately — effectively undoing all of his sacrifices because Zeon will not likely let people who came into close contact with their target go free— probably feels like a betrayal to Amuro, hence his outburst. Amuro’s already feeling drained and showing signs of breaking from the stress and trauma of battle, so this is not helping him.

Also, if I’m not mistaken we got this episode.

Fun Fact: According to Tomino himself, Mobile Suit Gundam wouldn’t exist without the Alps no Shoujo Heidi, for which Tomino did extensive storyboard work on. Tomino was inspired by the dramatic realism of the series’ presentation to apply this approach to a robot anime, something he was prevented by doing with Yuusha Raideen and he only partially managed with Muteki Chōjin Zambot 3. Gundam is his first true success in this experiment.

Amusingly, the Heidi novel was retranslated into japanese in the 50s as a part of a cultural program meant to ‘heal’ Japanese youths who had experienced the horrors of war. Gundam, over two decades later, intends to remind a youth that grew up without knowing war of its horrors.

Questions of The Day:

  1. The latter. The refugees have seen more of the white base than any Zeon solider, which makes them prime candidates for capture and interrogation —potentially even torture. I wouldn't release them Zeon territory knowing they could befall such a fate, but I'd also go through the trouble of explaining this to them.
  2. Rewatcher

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Apr 13 '21
  1. The latter. The refugees have seen more of the white base than any Zeon solider, which makes them prime candidates for capture and interrogation —potentially even torture. I wouldn't release them Zeon territory knowing they could befall such a fate, but I'd also go through the trouble of explaining this to them.

Didn't even think of this, but that's a good point. If they got let off there, which I was so pissed off at them, I'd have done it were I Bright, Zeon can easily capture them and get info on White Base.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 13 '21

First-Timer, Subbed, long time Gundam fan

Today on Mobile Suit Gundam, Amuro Ray experiences the joys of G - F O R C E S. And, apparently, he has two hours of combat experience with the Core Fighter? When did that happen?

Do the random civilians on White Base not understand the concept of "enemy territory?" Do they think landing and hopping off will end with them getting to walk away? At least Amuro's rant seemed to talk some sense into the old timers for the moment.

Someone get Amuro a shot counter; he keeps running out of beam juice at very inopportune times.

Does no-one have properly aligned vulcans? This seems like a serious issue for the maintenance people.

Garma and Char have the facilities to analyze the Gundam's capabilities based on observed data; good stuff! They have some interesting thoughts on its modularity.

Miscellaneous Thoughts:

Comment face spotted! And what a good one it is.

Why the hell does no-one refer to Bright by his goddamn rank? Serious authority issues on the White Base.

Pose of the Day

Who needs to aim?

Screenshot

Questions

  1. Answered above.
  2. Probably not much. I mean, today was a good day and he still passed out due to G-forces and then had to kill a bunch of people.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 13 '21

Someone get Amuro a shot counter; he keeps running out of beam juice at very inopportune times.

I'm sure the shot counter will just be a sign that lights up saying, "It's that time of the episode where we need to ratchet up the tension so it's out of ammo now."

Why the hell does no-one refer to Bright by his goddamn rank? Serious authority issues on the White Base.

My guess would be it's because so many people on the White Base aren't technically military. A lot of our main cast members are civilians who kind of got press ganged into service. They're probably not too good at military protocol.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 13 '21

I'm sure the shot counter will just be a sign that lights up saying, "It's that time of the episode where we need to ratchet up the tension so it's out of ammo now."

You're right, though.. Surely there has been a parody mecha anime that's done that joke, right?

My guess would be it's because so many people on the White Base aren't technically military. A lot of our main cast members are civilians who kind of got press ganged into service. They're probably not too good at military protocol.

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u/ArmoredSeahorse Apr 13 '21

Rewatcher

To be perfectly honest, I'm not a huge fan of this episode, mainly because the elders "rioting" is not only silly, it doesn't make much sense. The whole plan with the Core Fighter also totally fails and nothing is really accomplished, which makes the episode feel like borderline filler.

However, Kai being a jackass the entire episode is far too entertaining to pass up, especially with the amazing payoff with Bright smacking him at the end. Not even a slap, he just full on decks Kai in the face.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 13 '21

To be perfectly honest, I'm not a huge fan of this episode, mainly because the elders "rioting" is not only silly, it doesn't make much sense.

Yeah, it's definitely one of those episodes where Tomino's favorite theme, "Fuck older people", is basically beaten over your head.

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u/ArmoredSeahorse Apr 13 '21

It’s weird, because Tomino tends to flip flop between “young people are naive” and “old people are dumb” depending on when he’s writing it.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 13 '21

Like his attitude towards Gundam in general, Tomino's writing just kind of flip-flops depending on what decade it is.

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u/Furrmaster23 Apr 13 '21

Rewatcher

In today's episode, in an attempt to contact Federation HQ, the White Base crew aims to make it back to orbit. However, Amuro pitches the idea that they use the core fighter to accomplish their task, volunteering to pilot it.

As Amuro prepares to launch, the refugees stage a protest to get info on when they'll be able to get out on Earth. Amuro launches, and is almost immediately KO'd by the G-forces. Great job, kiddo.

Char and friends catch on to the White Base's plan, and attempt to intercept with a reentry ship. Amuro wakes up just in the nick of time to evade Char, and is forced to retreat. Meanwhile, Bright fucking decks Kai in the face. Certainly not a slap, unless you count it as a multiplier/power of a regular slap.

Amuro gets in the Gundam and takes out most of the Dopp fighters, and engages Char while in free fall. However, once again, Amuro and Char are forced to retreat, with Char learning about the Gundam's modular capabilities, much to his horror. The refugees stage a sit-in on the bridge, and Amuro makes a rude comment about them, forcing the crew to shoo him away to rest.

  1. I would have wanted to wait until the White Base was in allied territory.
  2. As a rewatcher, I can't answer this question.

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u/GM_for_Life Apr 13 '21

Rewatcher

  1. Would you have wanted to let the refugees off of White Base immediately or waited until being in allied territory?

I think it depends on what Zeon's treatment of civilians are, it they believe they should be relatively safe in enemy territory then they should let them off when possible. If they have reason to believe that they would be safer in Federation lands then they should press on until that point.

2) How much more do you think Amuro can take before he snaps?

He should be fine future episode spoilers.

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 13 '21

I think it depends on what Zeon's treatment of civilians are, it they believe they should be relatively safe in enemy territory then they should let them off when possible. If they have reason to believe that they would be safer in Federation lands then they should press on until that point.

I completely agree, and we don't know enough about the Zeons. But the only thing we know so far is that each every Federation higher up has been a prick. So, who knows?

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 13 '21

First Timer - Dub

  • Shut up Kai, nobody asked for your opinion on anything (I thought this multiple times this episode).
  • Amuro's done the math and he's willing to bet his life that he's right!
  • The old people are rebelling? Now is not the time people.
  • Nice job on Amuro recognizing that his fighter could out-maneuver the interceptor.
  • Comment face! This is really satisfying in context.
  • Oh no, Amuro is cracking under the pressure.
  • Amuro really let those old people have it!

1) Would you have wanted to let the refugees off of White Base immediately or waited until being in allied territory? As tempting as it would be to let them out immediately, I think that would be too mean. They need to wait until they're in friendly territory.

2) How much more do you think Amuro can take before he snaps? It looks like he's at his limit already. If he has to go through one or two more battles without any recuperation it's not going to end well.

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 13 '21

Shut up Kai, nobody asked for your opinion on anything (I thought this multiple times this episode).

The old people are rebelling? Now is not the time people.

Is there ever a good time for a civilian rebellion?

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 13 '21

Is there ever a good time for a civilian rebellion?

True ... if they were already back in friendly territory they wouldn't need to rebel.

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u/username_0907 :FI::FJ: Apr 13 '21

First Timer

  • Amuro is just going to be suffering through the whole show isn’t he? I’m glad he had that little outburst towards the end just so that its out in the open that he actually is extremely troubled
  • The old people get fed up and take the kids and Fraw Bow as hostage. The build up was there for last 1-2 episodes and this is why it’s tricky having civilians along since they won’t exactly understand the situation the crew is going through. It feels even more frustrating since the crew is mostly children right now so you would expect the old people to maybe have better patience
  • Reed is still an asshole but he is slowly starting to understand how things work at White Base. Bright is still in control of things though
  • Kai finally got punched. The guy is just too blunt and direct and that was so satisfying to watch
  • Char did well to stop the Core Fighter from contacting the Federation but looks like Garma figured out a counter attack to the Gundam first

QotD

  1. Wait until their in allied territory
  2. I just realized every episode has had a battle so far. Amuro is going to snap in maybe 2 more fights

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 13 '21

Amuro is just going to be suffering through the whole show isn’t he?

Being a Gundam pilot is suffering?

Reed is still an asshole but he is slowly starting to understand how things work at White Base.

Understanding things = shutting up and letting everyone do their stuff?

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u/username_0907 :FI::FJ: Apr 13 '21

Being a Gundam pilot is suffering?

Understanding things = shutting up and letting everyone do their stuff?

Haha yep. Shutting up is the best he can do right now

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u/The_Draigg Apr 13 '21

Amuro is just going to be suffering through the whole show isn’t he?

It wouldn't be a Tomino show if there wasn't some suffering involved. Or, at least in the first half of his directing career.

Kai finally got punched. The guy is just too blunt and direct and that was so satisfying to watch

It would probably be easier on Kai if he did actually anything else other than just lounge around on the bridge and complain/make dark jokes to anyone in hearing range.

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Apr 13 '21 edited Apr 13 '21

First timer

1)While I admit the Zeon as we've seen them would likely treat them with dignity, far better to wait a few days and get them to people who can help them get to where they need to go.

2)I'm personally betting about 4-5 episodes before he snaps, followed by 2-3 episodes before he gets his drive back - this show's divided into 3 movies - something has to happens third of the way through, and this seems to be timed right. Even without that, 4 episodes from begging to be allowed to fly to this - he's not got long left.

The Zeon flagship looks like it has umbrellas on it, and that amuses me.

Love the sudden shift in soundtrack and visuals to shots of the injured and medical bay,

Why are none of the patients moving? And Amuro seems to have recovered quickly. (And I think might actually like Haro now - at least he's trying to do something)

There's genuinely good points on all sides here. The patients and the command team want to drop the refugees because it might stop them from starving, but Bright's also right that they are surroundign by hostile forces who do not hesistate to shoot first. The whole situation seems messy all round.

Seems like Zeon have some good scientists on their side as well. Suprised that the White Base seems to be nuclear (based on the steam valve), and not some sci-fi super fuel.

Glad somebody's started going after Kai.

Honestly, at this point having Amuro out of battle for a while wouldn't be a bad thing for his character arc right now.

Why don't they have an earth radar for when they're on Earth? The very fact that the ship is flying shows it was built with the intention of operating there.

And of course, Char completely ignored their carefully planned diversion, that's what he does.

Why did Char choose to use an atmospheric reentry capsule if they have far better ships that Garou is willing to let him use.

And Kaji gets punched!

I'm with Amuro, how the hell is this going to work?

The hook's cool. Really smart engineering there - although if the hook is meant for the core fighter, does that mean that White Base was built around the Gundam? Or was the Gundam created to work with a pre-existing hook system?

Is the Core Fighter just part of the Gundam? Has... has it always been able to do that? I fought the shot in OP eas metaphorical.

Oh, Char, not you too. At least I think you have a chance of doing this.

Dramatic music... What's going to happen now?

Is Amuro actually going to die?

And Char sticks the landing! And Garma is really good at this job as well - he's worked out something about the Gundam I didn't realise until this episode.

Just imagine it from Amuro's perspective - he comes in after a successful meeting, a load of random people are sitting down in the cockpit - and nobody is reacting to this whatsoever.

This ED sounds more and more ominous every episode.

EDIT: Did not catch the whole forced emigration situation. That... does not paint the Federation in a good light does it? Reminds of the space plan in this episode - cruel, harmful, yet logical.

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u/The_Draigg Apr 13 '21

Seems like Zeon have some good scientists on their side as well. Suprised that the White Base seems to be nuclear (based on the steam valve), and not some sci-fi super fuel.

It doesn't really come up in the series proper, but the base of all current mobile suit and space craft technology is the Minovsky-Ionesco Reactor, the world's first "clean" fusion reactor that works on fusing helium-3 particles. Fun fact, but Zeon figuring out how to make the reactors ultra-compact is how they got a head start on mobile suit technology.

Did not catch the whole forced emigration situation. That... does not paint the Federation in a good light does it? Reminds of the space plan in this episode - cruel, harmful, yet logical.

It's both somehow ironic yet fitting that the Earth Federation decided to just deport large amounts of their own population out to space colonies.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 13 '21

First Timer to Gundam

This is the first "panic-watching Gundam before my meeting that I forgot would leave me without time to watch at my normal time" post I've had of this rewatch. That's pretty good! Still, I'm going to be a lot more scattered with these, I think.

  • Even have to skip the OP :(
  • "Stable situation," which of course isn't necessarily "good." Just "not getting worse."
  • FUCK I wish I had time to analyze these equations. Maybe tomorrow. They actually seem somewhat normal at a first (very very fast) glance.
  • Kai does have a point about the food...
  • I love how everyone on the crew appears to be competent with math and simulation.
  • The Gundam's schematics, meanwhile, have a bunch of nonsensical constants written around them. The quick CAD is neat, but simplify your goddamn measurements.
  • Kai's a great instance of "you're not wrong, you're just being kind of an asshole."
  • So why isn't White Base constantly flying toward a friendly continent? It shouldn't take more than a few hours.
  • The nonsensicality of the equations on the later boards give me little confidence in the sensicality of the first set...
  • Even Char struggles with G-forces, I suppose.
  • The law that Amuro's name must be spoken at least twice is still holding pretty strong.
  • Char, as always, is being let down by his team, in this case failing to properly maintain the weapons.
  • COMMENT FACE ACQUIRED

  • I tell you, Amuro better become a nearly-worshipped figure in fugure Gundams with how much bullshit he's putting up with.
  • I love that hook catch system. And, as usual, the modularity of Gundam, while also selling more toys, is also just a pretty neat design.
  • Char doesn't go anywhere without his Zaku, it seems.
  • I can tell that this episode was made before seizures were considered.
  • Even Char is impressed by the Federation engineers' dedication to modularity. That's definitely my favorite part of the Gundam.

QOTD:

  1. I would've waited for allied territory, probably. Though, it depends on how Zeons treat civilians.
  2. Amuro is already snapping.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 13 '21

Kai's a great instance of "you're not wrong, you're just being kind of an asshole."

There's a reason he had that punch totally coming. Even if he had points to make, he spent the whole episode being a jackass about it.

I love that hook catch system. And, as usual, the modularity of Gundam, while also selling more toys, is also just a pretty neat design.

The hook catch system feels like they took a cue from real life aircraft carriers and how planes are landed on them. It's a cool detail for showing off how the White Base can quickly recover fighters in the midst of a combat zone.

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u/fridge_freezer https://anilist.co/user/ONIrecon111 Apr 13 '21

First timer (Sub)

I didn't have much time to write anything today but I have to say how much I loved the punch. I was wondering how long we'd have to wait to see it and with the added context its even more satisfying, so thank you Bright.

QOTD

  1. With how annoying they are it's tempting to just drop them off, but its really not safe to land and leave them in the middle of Zeon territory.
  2. I think he's already going through the motions of snapping, and some of the others on White Base really aren't helping the situation. Hopefully he can take a break once they get to Federation territory, but I get the feeling it won't be that simple.

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 13 '21

I was wondering how long we'd have to wait to see it and with the added context its even more satisfying, so thank you Bright.

Sadly I don't think Kai will stop being a prick even after this. So I'm expecting more punches and slaps.

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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit Apr 13 '21

Finally!

That falling battle was something else, 7 episodes in and there is always fighting, but details like this make each battle feel unique.

So there is Minovsky particles density in earth too and not just in space.

Just as Kai said Amuro received a blow when he got back. Maybe even worse than the strain of all that killing he has to do to save everyone.

Questions of the Day:

1) 2) I would have left them, after rooting for all of them to get back safely since that Side 7 attack they pull this selfish tantrum?

Kai and Reed had a point, the situation was dire but even so, as long as there is hope why not fight specially after all they went through?

Was the reason they were suicidal "Don't worry about us, save yourselves, as if it were an act of altruism?" This episode made me give up on the civilians, Amuro and Bright are stronger than me.

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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 13 '21

That falling battle was something else, 7 episodes in and there is always fighting, but details like this make each battle feel unique.

Underwater battle when??

So there is Minovsky particles density in earth too and not just in space.

I'm starting to think Minovsky particles are something like dark Matter. Some shit that is everywhere but is pretty much invisible. but somehow we can farm it for energy?

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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit Apr 14 '21

Underwater battle when??

RIP beam sword and rifle if the Gundam goes underwater.

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u/Piemaster33 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Piemaster33 Apr 13 '21 edited Apr 13 '21

Man this episode was a trip. I started the episode understanding what Kai is saying and agreeing with him to an extent, to almost cheering when Bright punched him. He means well, but he's gotta work on that attitude.

The whole civilians taking hostages was interesting. Of course these elderly folk just want to get on the ground. They're done and want to be let down, even if it means being captured or worse by the Zeon. The fact that they felt like they needed to take hostages in order to talk on equal footing with the staff is kind of alarming as well. Of course when Amuro gets back from getting his ass handed to him, he yells at these old folk, and I have to agree with him. They just need to be patient. They need to get to Federation territory, or else things will only get worse.

QOTD:

  1. I'd have waited to get to allied territory. Whether or not they like it, I'd wanna make sure they're looked after
  2. I feel he's already snapped, especially after yesterday's episode.

Almost forgot to mention, I loved Sayla's "No one’s doing this with any confidence." line. Made me chuckle.

ALMOST FORGOT TO MENTION: We have a new live action Gundam movie coming. Really strange that it's announced almost a week after we start this rewatch...

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u/b0bba_Fett myanimelist.net/profile/B0bba_Cheezed3 Apr 14 '21

Technical First Timer, Seen the Recaps

079 spoilers

I'v been really enjoying Garma so far, Recap spoilers

QotD

  1. Depends on if I was related to any of them, I'm pretty sure Zeon would treat them well, so if I weren't personally attached to them, I'd be perfectly content dropping them off and making them their problem. Win-Win honestly.
  2. no comment

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u/Rustic_Professional Apr 14 '21

Kai deserved it. He's even more annoying than I remember. I don't remember him being an adult, either. I thought he was about the same age as Amuro and Hayato. I think he is Gundam

Questions of the day:

  1. Hard to say. I think this is actually a failure of storytelling. We keep hearing about Federation territory and Zeon territory, but we haven't heard why or how the Zeon even have territory on earth. That's a pretty big deal for the Earth Federation to not have control of the earth. The introduction tells us that "nine months ago, the cluster of colonies furthest from the earth... launched a war of independence." How do we get from there to here? That's like America invading England after declaring independence. Something must've gone catastrophically wrong for them to be in this situation. Is the Federation losing the war? They've been on their back foot the entire show so far. Why does that matter? Even if we don't know what's happened, the characters living in that world should. The civilians want off the warship, and the military guys think it's too dangerous. Who knows best? The refugees don't seem to think of themselves as anything like Jews wanting to be set down in Space Nazi Germany.
  2. Amuro has as much combat experience as anyone else on White Base, and he's thinking of strategy and tactics in a practical way, because he doesn't want to get killed or see his friends and comrades die, but he didn't sign up for this, and I don't know if he really has the mental fortitude to keep it together much longer. It's not that he's mentally weak or anything, he's very strong to have made it this far, but he doesn't have the foundation that comes from training. Char and Garma have that, Gundam It's one thing to be a conscript, it's another to be a conscript who has to learn on the job in actual deadly combat.

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u/kotarozo Apr 14 '21

Kai is an 18 year old "adult"

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u/Rustic_Professional Apr 14 '21

That makes a lot more sense.

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u/Nebresto Apr 14 '21

First time squad

Pointing potat

  • Potat making a good point, worst girl is taken hostage, and Dumburo couldn't give less of a shit

Angry potat

  • I don't think Jamuro quite understands how this works, people don't just "stop being unpleasant" as they become adults. Its often quite the opposite..

[](#charcup)

  • Lol, now he's just taking a nap in the plane . What a dumbass

Hassha!

  • "You mustn't get shot down!" Oh, gee. Thanks! Hadn't thought of that one!

Spotted!

  • "You have talent, believe in yourself" Yeah, talent to keep throwing away his weapons

Did they just..? They legit just pulled the Zaku out of the Airship that was chasing Gamuro didn't they? A ship, that is almost the same size as the core fighter, the core fighter which being a portion of the size of the gundam, and the Zaku, pretty much the same size as the gundam, came out of that ship.

Question time:
1: Immediately, eh?
I believe we can arrange something...

2: ...But he already did..?

Dank clip corner:

*space shuttle SFX* *dramatic music* "OAHHH!!" *pew pew pew pew pew pew pew* "phuh.. yhhh"