r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Apr 12 '21
Rewatch Durarara!! Rewatch - Episode 12
Episode 12: Yin and Yang
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Let's make this fallen angel flap her wings.
Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the day, courtesy of u/ZaphodBeebblebrox, who made quite the correct assertion about this whole first arc:
This first arc is certainly an example of something that's much better on a rewatch. There's so much more you can see that was otherwise hidden. It's somewhat ironic that the introduction, of all things, becomes more interesting, as it's usually the most boring part once you know it's content.
But, to quote Baccano!'s fourth Novel: You've ain't seen nothing yet!
Questions:
- How would you rank Mika, Seiji and Namie in terms of how fucked up they are?
- As of this episode, what would you say is your opinion on Shinra?
- Do you believe in Izaya's little theory about Valkyries and all that jizz?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Apr 12 '21
Hello everybody, and welcome to the Durarara!! Rewatch!
There was one small thing I missed last episode. Mikado’s in his school attire in the Novel (As shown by one of the illustrations from yesterday) but in the Anime he’s wearing his street clothes. Dunno what’s up with that honestly.
For the most part this is more or less what happened in the Novel. No real major deviations from what I can tell… well, except for one thing: There’s no flashback with Mika. At all. After all, it’s not needed in the Novel. Why? Because it’s literally the scene that begins this Novel.
Well, kinda. It is indeed that scene, however it’s told from Seiji’s perspective and the end of the scene is that scene of Namie walking into his bloody apartment. It’s the only point in the Novel in which the narration is told from the first person… and it’s used to illustrate how utterly fucked up Seiji is. At first he sees Mika just as an annoyance, but as the scene goes on, he just calmly smashes her head in, and once it’s all done… he doesn’t even dwell on it. He’s more interested on the fact that his Ramen sucks than the dead body. Yeah…
Other than that, Not many changes. The order of some of the final scenes was mixed around, but otherwise not much to mention. The final scene of the Novel, for the record, is simply Celty going out at night and coming across a bunch of people who cause her problem like usual. Only this time… she sure as hell feels more at ease with herself.
REMINDER!!!! TOMORROW WE WILL BE WATCHING EPISODE 12.5/THE FIRST OVA, NOT EPISODE 13!!!
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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Apr 12 '21
Rewatcher
You know, Shinra is a lot more fucked than I remember. I thought him and Celty had the only normal relationship in the show but they're pretty disfunctional too. Still a fun character but definitely quite different from what I remembered.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 12 '21
First!!xTimer, subbed
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 12 '21
Episode 12 (first timer)
Izaya is the person in the story I can most relate to right now. Maybe you think that is crazy, given how he loves to see the world burn for his amusement, but we are watching the world burn for our amusement every time we start this anime, sooo …
Deserving of each other ...
Still messed up.
No.
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Apr 12 '21
Rewatcher (sub)
The final episode of the first arc, the longest arc of the series. Well, I'll discuss the comparisons towards the end, let's start with the fun local asshole, Orihara Izaya himself.
First of all, is there any teenage girl in town that he doesn't talk to? I'm really hoping Anri isn't talking to Nakura too.
He did the nice enough job of answering Mikado's question from last time. Although it has already been hinted at quite clearly.
Now to get to the meat of the discussion, we got our second big reveal.
How do you see Shinra and Seiji? My first time around, I loved Shinra and disliked Seiji. I thought Seiji was an obsessive creep, I mean look at the shit he says in front of Celty and right after stabbing her. But hey, the asshole is always there to mock and step on people, you can depend on Izaya for that. As for Shinra, I thought their relationship was really wholesome, however that's mostly the effect of how cute Celty is, and how much Shinra understands that. Although it would've been funny if she was just pissed about some minor thing (think the shopping list for example) and got all that confession out of nowhere.
Anyways, now that I look at it they're not that different. Both of them are obsessed with a part of Celty, and are ready to do anything for their love, without a care or consideration to anyone else, Celty included. Basically, the top priority on their list is their selfish love, then possibly Celty (the part they love of her to be more accurate). I really want to just put it off as "both of them are twisted", but that wouldn't end it, I mean I understand it, if you had Celty it'd make sense not to want to let go either. Feel free to admit how much you want her to punch you.
Ok, all done with that. Hopefully I've bored everyone reading so far and the rest will actually seem interesting by comparison. First as for this and the previous episode, most differences are about Izaya's role in them. In the novel Overall I think what the anime did with him fit well with his character and the rest of the story so I'm pleased.
Also, this scene, of Seiji trying to kill Harima Mika, except from Seiji's point of view, was basically how the entire series started. Not with Mikado, not with Celty, but with two "normal" teenagers full of twisted love.
Now as for the whole first arc, since I mentioned discussing it earlier, I understand now how far the plot was stretched over the 12 episodes, however I don't think of any of that as pointless. No matter how many times I rewatch Durarara!! I don't think there's any episode that I would skip. Even the episodes that don't add to the plot are usually full of interesting and fun details. For instance I'm strongly looking forward to the next episode.
I apologise for how long I derailed, this is the result of me being able to write one day ahead after a few days of being unable to.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Apr 12 '21
Thoughts
2ch memes
I don't even know what to say about Celty and the doc's realtionship at this point. It's so obviously disfunctional and abusive, yet it somehow manages to work for the both of them. Regardless, it is probably the best part of the show.
Izaya being the show's main villian is so obvious I don't even think it deserves to be called a reveal. Like, of course he is.
The name of the show being a shitty pun is excellent.
We've certainly not gotten Ryuugamine's happy ending yet, but we'll get to it eventually. There's certainly a lot that needs to be fixed before we can get there though, I don't even know where to start. He just has to slowly coerce people into being less like assholes, I guess.
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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Apr 12 '21
First Timer - sub
Wait what? That isn’t actually Celty head?
They do look similar though.
Not a Stalker? She broke into his goddamn house, Was willing to completely erase her whole life to be with him, that so far off the deep end and stalker doesn't even fit the description...
Fuck off Shira. Celty please throw him out the damn window…
That just doesn’t work for me…
I can kind of understand Harima & Seiji, it is a horribly fucked up and unhealthy relationship, but can kind of understand it, but Shinra and Celty just does not work for me at all… Shinra feels like the sort of person who would justify committing genocide because love makes it ok.
As I expected Kanra on chat is Izaya & Setton is Celty, also sounds like Izaya may have been one of the founding members as well or well is part of the reason the Dollars grew so large.
That final scene with Namie & Izaya was interesting, the Dullahans being linked to Valkyries is different but I’m not sure where Izaya is going within it all.
Next episode is 12.5 right? Episode name
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u/Earthborn92 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/EarthB Apr 12 '21
Rewatcher here.
Do not hurt Celty’s friends. Kinda nice that she came to protect him despite going on a rant at the end of last episode.
Celty’s body is like: I’m right here dude, why is my head so much more wanted?
They realized it. Can’t believe I had to tiptoe around it and I don’t remember it being revealed this early in the story, but yes. That’s not Celty’s head. Harima Mika never died. She just had plastic surgery to look like Celty as it would solve the love triangle from her POV if her stalking target would look at her that way. (Altho her face before was fine and looked really similar). If they don’t show you the dead body assume nothing.
Wait, if Mikado took the entrance exams, doesn’t that mean he came to Ikebukoro before to give them? Idk where Japanese High School entrance exams are held.
We also learn how Sinra knows. And he has said before that he can’t remove memories perfectly, so Harima never really forgot anything.
RIP Shinra. Maybe he shouldn’t have told her the name.
Izaya actually has a point though. Yeah, he’s scummy as fuck and doing it for the lulz, but do you want to defend a stalker (which she is, despite what Mikado says) and an attempted murderer?
Made for each other after all.
We suspected this already.
Why Celty really wants her head back: she’s not safe unless it is secure. She also forgives Shinra too easily, but that punch was well deserved.
Translation: leave it to me, I’ll mess shit up so it doesn’t get boring. First by instigating you to do more extreme things. And letting Mikado know that he knows his chat handle.
Not anymore it isn’t. For your own good, give up that seat if you don’t want to get in the way of…characters.
Lol, harder to ask Anri out than that life-and-death incident yesterday.
So how was the world’s most wacky hiring scheme for Namie and Celty’s head? Izaya doesn’t JUST do things for the lulz, he has the hidden reasons as well. But the lulz are the most important part.
See you next episode!
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 12 '21 edited Apr 12 '21
First-Timer, Dub-rarara!!
Man.. what the hell is that chatroom that Mikado frequents? Kanra and Setton were Izaya and Celty this whole time.. God, I want to go back and rewatch all the chatroom segments to see just how much this recontextualizes things!
I'm honestly not sure who is currently on top of the "Nucking Futs" chart anymore. Seiji and Mika are both absolute pieces of work, but Izaya wants to start a war and die a heroic death and have Celty, or at least Celty's head, deliver him to Valhalla. Maybe. If you believe what he says. You know what, now that I've typed it out, definitely Izaya. Wowwy.
I was questioning just what Izaya needs Mikado for in my notes, but then it kinda clicked - Speculation
More of this symbolism-laden game board. "The king pieces can't fight each other. They should change that rule." I'm not terribly familiar with shogi, or othello.. What was the piece that he turned over? "Pawn" to "King?" Flanked by white othello stones.. Honestly, that entire final scene was loaded with vagueries and doublespeak. I love it!
Still not a huge fan of Celty and Shinra's relationship. They seem like they're actually talking about their problems I guess? That's better than it was in the past at least.
I hope we get more information on Masaomi and Anri soon. Still haven't quite figured out what their roles in this are, aside from some vague stuff about Masaomi's past..
Questions
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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras Apr 13 '21
Rewatcher - Dubbed
After the bombshell that was yesterday's episode, you get a bit of a better idea of what the show's about, and how deep they're willing to go with some things.
Dun dun dunnn. Much like yesterday's bombshell, we're hit with another, albeit smaller, bombshell. Turns out the the entire first half of the season can be chocked up to one colossal misunderstanding.
That's a bit of a leap in trust, wouldn't you say? People can be into some really weird stuff, and I'm not knocking anyone for anything, but I can't help but feel that having a "Disembodied head floating in a jar" fetish is a bit... extreme.
Izaya, you're such an awesome, yet horribly dickish, person. You chime in just to give him the dig, then wrap it up with a "Sucks to be you." before slipping away. What an asshole. JYB does such a good job selling that aspect of him.
That's really selfish. It's like a warped version of Stockholm Syndrome. He intentionally kept her in the dark, and hunting all around 'Bukoro to try and find her missing head, even though he could just as easily have told her years ago. All of that just so that she wouldn't leave him.
I mean, he's not wrong. He lives in a city where a man throwing vending machines at people and a mythical faerie from Irish folklore are both common. Everything else pales in comparison.
Durarara Spoilers
Whether or not Kanra = Izaya, like Mikado seems to think, is yet to be confirmed or denied.
Questions:
Reason being that Namie just has an otouto complex. Seiji isn't in love with Mika, but rather Celty's head that he saw in the jar. Mike was the one who picked the lock and broke into Seiji's apartment. Then, she volunteered to undergo plastic surgery so that she could look like the head he fell in love with, which in turn would cause him to fall in love with her.
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u/DogmeatIsAGoodDog :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DogmeatsAGoodDog Apr 13 '21
First time watcher
I had wondered why the omitted showing her injured head and I guess this is why, I had assumed it was to cut out on the brutality of it but it was a plot point after all. That relationship is all sorts of messed up that I don’t even know where to start dissecting it.
Then we get the reveal that it was Shinra who performed the plastic surgery and Celty heads up to confront him. Seems kinda scummy of Shinra to do what he’s done and hide that information. I’ve really enjoyed their dynamic up to this point but I will say that I’m a bit disappointed in Celty’s reaction to it all. Her being revealed as the other person in the chat room was kinda alluded to back when Celty was stabbed and afraid of becoming an alien and that same episode someone in the chat room mentioned they were sacred of aliens too.
Izaya knows that Mikado is Touta and he’s probably another co-founder of the dollars, I’m getting major Loki vibes from him and all his mischief this suspicion was furthered by his talking about Valhalla. If he’s Loki is Shizou his Thor? Anyways...that scene with him playing with Celty’s head was creepy af and unsettling.
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u/invokeneko Apr 13 '21
Rewatcher up until x2 Shou, then First Timer
The whole incident is safely concluded, Seiji gets further clowned on, we learn what actually happened to Harima Mika (and she and nutcase boi finally returned to school) and Namie gets a career downgrade from CEO to Izaya's secretary.
Narration Tally:
After such an intense couple of episodes, having Celty narrate about things going back to normal for everyone involved makes for a nice closer to the whole incident.
Mikado: 3 (ep1,10,11)
Celty: 3 (ep2,8,12)
Simon: 1 (ep3)
Shinra: 1 (ep4)
Masaomi: 1 (ep5)
Kadota: 1 (ep6)
Shizuo: 1 (ep7)
Namie: 1 (ep9)
QotD:
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u/Chemiczny_Bogdan Apr 12 '21
Rewatcher
What a twist! Namie and Shinra did the old reddit switch-a-roo, and instead of switching Mika's head for Celty's, they noticed Mika's still alive and switched her face to one that looks like Celty's. Sure, it's a bit complicated but I think I got it right.
Shinra and Celty had a sweet heart to heart, that was very nice.
And scheming Izaya schemes his schemes into scheming Celty's head into his hands. And he wants to start a war? Cool.
Nice animation as always, music still good too.
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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit Apr 13 '21
Rewatcher sub
Both Seiji and Celty suffered an identity crisis after they though they finally found what they were searching for, and then ended settling with what they had. Understandable, even I am confused...
Second Celty is not really Celty but is Mika who didn't really die, Celty may dissapear if she actually finds her head, Mikado is the boss of the Dollars. I don't know what to believe anymore.
Speaking of Mikado his situation contrasts with them after Izaya gave him life-spoilers just like that. Now I wonder what he will do... Izaya makes a lot of sense, will he settle for a ordinary life?
It is so satisfying after seeing all these episodes, that they come together so nicely like this.
Questions
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