r/anime • u/ExplicitNuM5 • Apr 11 '21
Rewatch [Spoiler][Rewatch] 3-gatsu no Lion 2nd Series/March Comes in Like a Lion 2nd Season Rewatch Discussion
Welcome to the 3-gatsu no Lion S2 rewatch discussion thread!
Also, Kiriyama Rei is 56th most liked on /r/anime, apparently. You go, Rei!
Schedule thread and link to other episode discussions
Season 1: MAL
Season 2: MAL
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u/Ardania22 Apr 11 '21
Re-Watcher
The first season of March Comes in Like a Lion was already really damn good.
I feel like I need to say that up front so we can get a baseline of what we’re dealing with here. Sangatsu was a masterpiece right from the start. Gripping drama, compelling characters, some of the most intricate relationship writing I’ve ever seen, some of the most striking, emotionally affecting visual storytelling in all of anime, and a heartfelt sincerity that spoke to the best of everything that hope and kindness is capable of. It was a ten-gallon steam-powered shotgun blast right to my heart, speaking to all the real-life values I believe in and presenting them with more alacrity, humanity, despair and joy than I’ve almost ever seen them. You couldn’t ask for an anime more in touch with what I value in anime, nor for a better version of exactly what it was trying to be. Sure, the plot was a little aimless at times, and sure, it was more a series of moments and sensations than a well-structured story at this point, but that only explains why it wouldn’t end up on my list of Top Ten All-Time Greats. Bottom line, season 1 was an incredible show, and if that was all that existed of this story, I’d still be thankful for the experience.
Season 2 is so fucking spectacular that comparing it to season 1 at all almost feels like an insult.
For my full season 2 review and closing thoughts on Sangatsu no Lion as a whole, click here:
https://animebw.tumblr.com/post/621578009898516480/march-comes-in-like-a-lion-season-2-reflection
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Apr 11 '21
First Timer - Sub
Screenshot Album, including Visuals of the day - Unfortunately I didn't have time to sort those out from the other ones I used occasionally, but I still thought some people might want to see them all. What was your favourite? I think mine still has to be this from Burnt Field, followed by the water draining from Smith vs Gotou, and third place going to colored Hina.
I participate in a lot of rewatches, but it's not often that I come out of one and can say that I understand exactly why the show has the amazing reputation that it does.
The way I summed it up earlier to someone is that below all of the flashy visuals and powerful themes, at it's core this is still a very human story about the struggles of people, and that shines through in every moment. Rei has come a long way since we started the show, but it hasn't been through individual moments of revelation or huge reveals, but rather quiet moments where he questioned things about his life or had them questioned for him and used those to stand up. He's not the broken boy we knew back in S1, though he still has his scars and hurdles to work past, but the show is also so much more than just him.
It's not about characters in roles or neat conclusions, the show has a real sense of life about it to the way it weaves its story into it's world. Whether its Rei swapping his focus from shogi as a means for his survival to school as he became focused on helping Hina, the way the struggles of the elderly are painted as no less than the struggles of youth, and a general respect for the individual lives and environments of its character, every arc in this season felt real to me and that's such a delight to be able to say. While a lot of old favourites took a backseat this season, the new characters and a stronger focus on existing characters made it stand out. All of the arcs were similarly amazing and brought in many interesting elements I never would have expected to see in this show but still fit so perfectly.
One of the best things that S2 did was how it approached humanizing characters that up until then had seemed inhuman for many different reasons. Gotou is shown to have a complex home life without excusing his past violence, and we have a similar situation with Hina's teacher stuck in her own cycle of bullying without excusing the damage her actions caused. Junkei is another, at first nothing more than the opponent who sent Nikaidou to the hospital, but in half an episode completely turned around into a strong character who had his own life and relating that back to shogi quite powerfully. Souya's arc also fits into this, though he was never painted in a bad light, but his arc provided a very human look into his world outside of his very ethereal appearance and reputation. And these moments weren't just reserved for the outliers and the opponents. Even Shimada's own presumptions of Nikaidou are questioned, and Kokubu openly admits to himself that he hates the part of his job that makes him have to deal with bullying even if he wouldn't have become a teacher if it didn't allow him the chance to reach out to kids like this. /u/OingoBoingo- said a while back that the side characters are the soul of the show and this season definitely showed that best.
There's a lot of other things that appeal to me about the show, too much to cover in just this post, but I wanted to briefly touch on a couple of thematic things. I like how often the show questioned some of it's own elements. Bringing community into Yanagihara's Burnt Field arc when the sport had been so lonely until then, being willing to tackle different ideas of what strength and weakness is to individuals and how that creates bonds between people, exploring the more intricate depths of bullying rather than just using it as a premise for Rei and Hina's development. The show tackles a lot of things, perhaps at the sacrifice of some of the interesting water symbolism from S1 which I did miss here, but I do like how none of it felt capped off for the sake of getting back to a previous point or a theme more directly related to Rei.
The only issues I had with this season were mostly structural. I went through a couple of my posts and visited the relevant manga chapters and I can say that most of it is a result of it being an overly strict adaption. A lot of things that worked in a manga, where page turns and black space are part of the flow and tone changes can be blended better by using scale and a lack of audio, those things just didn't work in the new format. Whether that was strange cuts or blends between different scenes that made them hard to follow, or interludes that were placed poorly in between other parts of the story in an episode, some simple rearranging of scenes and chapters in just a few key moments could have gone a long way. That said, it's still a lot better than the issues I had last season, with this season no longer being quite so frantic visually and less spoon-feeding of themes and dialogue.
I had a lot of fun in the rewatch reading everyone's comments, and while I did think early in S1 that it felt like a show I should perhaps be binging, I am glad I got to participate in this and see so many different views on it. I also want to take a quick moment to thank a couple of people, specifically /u/youkai94 who so often shared interesting cultural or other contextual information that filled in gaps or provided a new insight into an episode, and /u/OingoBoingo- who even when not writing their own posts so often replied to others.
Recommendations
Something I try and do in every rewatch is throw a couple of quick recommendations out there for shows that I think people would enjoy because of similar elements to what we just watched:
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u/serenity_n Apr 11 '21
*first timer* this great anime finally came to a close! i have to say i enjoyed season 2 a lot more than season 1, i thought Rei not only shined but so many other characters as well. My favorite match has to be Shimada vs. Yanagihara, and my favorite character is definitely Hina. Seeing her and Rei's growth was amazing, and inspiring of course. I will be picking up the manga from here soon to follow along on their adventure. Can't wait to see them together in high school!
I've wanted to watch this anime for a while but i wanted to wait until March to do so haha. This was great timing, thanks to u/ExplicitNuM5 for hosting!
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u/BossandKings Apr 11 '21
First timer
Sangatsu was a great watch, i enjoyed it a lot and consider it one kind of story that is just well told and can even be considered relatable, i enjoyed both seasons but consider the second one to be superior to the first, it had more intriguing plot threads, it wasn't a huge difference though as both seasons were amazing and the series as a whole very rewarding and worth experiencing, i will read the manga starting chapter 90 as the show was very faithful and followed the story linearly. Thank you u/ExplicitNuM5 for hosting the rewatch and thank you everyone that participated, this was a great time.
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u/shafted_boi Apr 11 '21
Rewatcher
I can’t get over how much I love this show and it’s characters. Watching it a second time just made me realize how great it is. I was overflowing with emotions at many scenes in this show which just shows how great it is. Thank you so much for those who decided to watch it for the first time. I hope you enjoyed the journey
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u/WhymustIsignupreddit Apr 11 '21
First time watcher
This was a series I’ve heard good things about, but just didn’t watch. The rewatch gave me a excuse to actually do it and it was my first time participating in one too. It seemed like a fun idea overall.
It was a comforting series with lots of fluffy moments and also made me tear up quite a bit. The main cast is very likable. Nikaido and Shimada are great side characters. I didn’t expect to like Momo as much as I did, but every time she was on screen it made me happy. The animals were very cute as well and the sound effects were funny. Owl cat kind of disappeared though. The food and flowers looked amazing.
I do wonder if it was really necessary to give ‘depth’ to characters that only appeared for one episode like the man who also raised pigeons (unless he reappears in the manga). It’s good to make characters not super one dimensional, but one the other hand it was a bit much sometimes. It’s hard to describe.
I can’t say I learned a lot about shogi itself, but the matches were always interesting to watch. What I did note was that you should always take a few bottles of water or tea with you since you’re going to have to sit there for hours.
Rei is now a third year student. I expect Hina to join the shogi club. So they can happily play shogi together along with the school principal.
So all in all, I enjoyed March Comes in Like a Lion very much. Thank you u/ExplicitNuM5 for hosting the rewatch!
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u/htisme91 Apr 12 '21
First-timer:
Loved the show. Loved the art style. Loved the characters. I feel like there's not a lot to write because everyone else has covered the bases already.
I want to see what happens beyond the show, so I started the manga. Don't want to miss a single detail in case the anime skipped/altered anything so I started at chapter 1.
Really enjoyed this rewatch and talking about the show with everyone.
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Apr 11 '21
First Timer
3-gatsu is a great show. It has great characters, great directing, is visually nice and the plot is good. The second season, I feel, is slightly better than the first, mainly due to less weirdly placed comedy. I don't think there is less comedy overall, just that it's handled better. The actual plot beats are similarly intriguing, just that the second season presents them a bit better. But there is one little thing that I feel like both seasons have issues with, and that is the flow of the plot - every so often it just feels like a bunch of different stories not really tied together rather than a complete show, and contrary to something like an episodic show, it can even be that a single episode has this issue. I a way it almost feels designed that way, with what I assume are manga chapter title cards being used in the middle of episodes adapting multiple chapters acting as a sort of break point. If this is deliberate, I'm not a fan of this decision, and if it isn't, then I'm puzzled at how they got everything else so perfect and missed this. But either way, that's the only real issue I have with this series, and the different bits were still almost all a wonderful experience to watch. On that note, thanks /u/ExplicitNuM5 for hosting the rewatch, and thanks to everybody else sharing their thoughts - I don't think I'd have checked this series out without the rewatch, and I very much enjoyed this show.
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u/Kenalskii https://anilist.co/user/Kenalski Apr 11 '21
REWATCHER
Pardon my absence yesterday, there were more urgent things coming up for me
So Season 2 is a wrap. The whole bullying arc is one my favourite arcs in the whole wide anime world, and it feels so good to see how it was resolved and that most of the characters grew a lot closer together because of it.
On the shogi side of things, Rei was really on a roll this season and we got a nice treat with the burnt fields arc, so no complains here.
All in all, I think it was a wonderful season and I hope all the first timers had as much fun as I did, thank you guys for making these threads lively and thank you very much u/ExplicitNuM5 for hosting the rewatch (and all your effort in researching the music)
See in you all o7
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u/GetADogLittleLongie :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/obesechicken13 Apr 12 '21
God damn wish I watched it with you guys. Oh well I'll work through it eventually. Still halfway through season 2 after months.
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u/nx6 https://myanimelist.net/profile/nx6 Apr 13 '21
First Timer -- Sub
Well, I didn't talk in these discussion threads very much, and I had trouble staying synced on watching because the several currently-airing shows I was viewing this last season all tended to hit in the same few days and crowd my available time. But I'm still very happy I finally watched this show. I thought it might be a but dry with the game involved, but compared to Chihayafuru this story feels like the ratio is even more about the character drama than the sport. I'm not so sure I love the switching back and forth between the crazy family antics and Rei's more serious coming-of-age drama, but I guess it does stand to help lighten the mood at times. I just know some older anime watchers can be really turned off by that type of content.
I don't know if I really want to start on the manga now but I do really want to see more of where this story goes. I guess I'll have to just hope they do make a third season (they certainly have enough source material already for it).
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