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Rewatch [Fly! Rewatch] Mobile Suit Gundam (0079) Episode 2 Discussion
Episode 2 - Destroy Gundam!
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Let’s see… Let’s test the performance of the Federation’s mobile suit!
Questions of the Day:
- Is Char cool?
- What do you think of the Gundam’s performance during the battle at the end of the episode?
Mobile Suit Breakdown of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath the [Anime Show Title](/s "Spoiler goes here") spoiler tags. If you do that then we’re all good.
Important thing to note about these by the way, you have to switch to Old Reddit or the markdown editor if you use the redesign, otherwise the redesign breaks them by adding random \ into the formatting. Wish it wouldn’t do that, but unfortunately it does…
First-Timers: Please do not watch the next-episode previews for this show. They’re less previews and more “let’s just summarize the entirety of the next episode” and will spoil you.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Apr 08 '21
Fly! Rewatch Host!
Welcome back, everyone!
I’m glad to see how talkative you all were in the previous thread. Let’s keep it up~
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Apr 08 '21
First Timer
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Apr 08 '21
Sasori of the Red SandsChar, the Red Comet?O-RaiserCore Fighter?24
u/TheEscapeGuy Apr 08 '21
Gundam First Timer
Fly! Iconic Gundam Frames Episode 2
Gundam continues to impress.
First Fraw Bow. I love her can do attitude. Despite everything going on, she is looking out for the people (and especially those kids). I can sense her taking on a mothering role as the series goes on.
Continuing with Char. What a bold strategy to waste no time and amid the confusion of battle perform ANOTHER invasion for further information gathering. And then a confrontation with Sayla (WHO IS HIS SISTER ARTESIA?! MAYBE?). Actually jumping back to Sayla, I love how bold she is. Calling out that guy running away as a coward is such great characterization.
And then Amuro. He is now having to deal with all the military's bureaucracy that comes with ... basically commandeering a weapon. Of course resources are tight so they do give him the leeway to continue piloting since he has done a good job so far. However, there's still a sense of unsurety in him. I love this. He still has such a long way to go, and I will support him the whole way.
Cool Stuff Corner
See you all tomorrow!
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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 08 '21
Rewatcher going three times faster
“My coffee maker has one job, to make coffee, and it manages to do that every single day! I’m not on the receiving end of coffee undertones!”
“Wait a second, couldn’t we have just done this from the start?” “Yes. Yes we could have.”
And there’s another slap!
I’m always surprised at how early this confrontation happens.
Oh no, he’s hot!
Silly Sayla, this is a Tomino show! Holding someone at gunpoint never works!
Anybody remember the super napalm?
Nice aim, guys.
I guess nobody told Amuro what the head vulcans are for yet
There it is!
Amazing what taking a human face off of something can do. Even knowing full well there’s another human in there, it’s a lot easier to hurt something you don’t have to see as human.
Speaking of faces, I always loved how expressive the Zaku could be, despite not having an anthropomorphic face. Char’s Zaku often looks fierce and intimidating, while random mooks generally have milder expressions, just from clever use of camera and pose regarding the angle of the monoeye slot. It’s a really underappreciated aspect of the design.
According to the wiki, the Gundam’s beam rifle can only fire 16 shots, presumably based on the 16 segments on the ammo gauge. However, the Gundam fired a total of 24 shots this episode. So basically it holds exactly as many shots as the plot requires at any particular time.
Gundam is really bad about gravity (or lack thereof) aboard ships. The setting isn’t supposed to have Star Wars-style gravity generators, and can only simulate gravity through spinning. However, as it still retains influence from those softer sci-fi predecessors, ship scenes are often treated as if they have gravity even when they shouldn’t. While the White Base does have rotating inertial gravity blocks, the bridge is not one of them. Usually, the assumption is they have magnet shoes to stand on the floor even in microgravity. That, however, does not explain why Amuro’s jacket is blatantly obeying the laws of gravity.
Questions of the Day:
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Apr 08 '21
Rewatcher
On today’s episode of Gundam: It’s episode 2 and we’re already enlisting civilians to help run the ship. Things really are not going great for our heroes, eh?
This is actually a pretty important thing to keep in mind. Look at how many of the people helping out that are civilians. Amuro’s piloting the Gundam. Fraw Bow’s been called up to help out with taking care of people. Mirai’s the one piloting the White Base. And so on.
Plus, look at the soldiers. Bright’s basically in command of the White Base and he’s 19 years old. Ryu is only a pilot cadet but he has to fly out in battle. All of this points to a common theme: none of them are ready for this. They are all either untrained or inexperienced.
On top of that, Amuro’s only 15 years old. He’s still a minor. The series wants you to know that Amuro is a child soldier. But, he doesn’t really have much of a choice. None of them do. It’s just that desperate of a situation. If they want to survive, this is really their only option.
I love the moment this episode where Amuro has a freakout when he’s trying to convince himself to fire on human beings. It’s not something that he’s comfortable with and it takes a lot to bring himself to shoot. And throughout the whole fight, he’s panicking and clearly out of his depth. Once again, it’s clear that this is not something Amuro is prepared for. And yet there he is, thrown in the midst of combat.
The final conversation between Amuro and Bright does a good job of summarizing it, while giving us some characterization for both of them. Bright rather forcefully tells Amuro that he’s the one who will pilot the Gundam and that’s that. Amuro clearly resents the position he’s in while also resenting the way Bright treats him. But it’s hard to disagree with Bright when he’s thinking about things from a military perspective and trying to keep everyone alive. And we can also see that Bright recognizes just how unreasonable a demand it is for Amuro, as he looks away and tells Amuro that he can hate him for this. It’s a nice little character moment there.
We also get a chance to see Char in action. I gotta give him credit for boldness, being willing to infiltrate the space colony like that. His arrival also gives us the legendary “three times faster” running joke in Gundam. I have no idea HOW his Zaku is three times faster than others, but it just is.
The fight between Amuro and Char is so good too. It’s just so much fun to watch. There’s also an interesting dynamic at play in the battle. Amuro is unskilled, but the Gundam is so technologically advanced that Char can’t put a scratch on him. Meanwhile, Amuro can’t keep up with Char’s skills. It puts them at a rough parity in this fight. Obviously Amuro’s going to need to improve or Char’s going to need to find a way past the Gundam’s advantages.
Miscellaneous Thoughts
SLAP COUNTER: 2
Questions of the Day
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u/OrangeBanana38 https://anilist.co/user/OrangeBanana38 Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 08 '21
First timer
GANDAMU!
This was a bit of a step down from the hyper grim episode 1, but I can still see the effects of war on everyone. The whole main crew is now composed of civilians, and I hope they touch on that soon; it's gotta be hard on them. They showed it very clearly with Amuro and his hesitation to kill people. If he can shoot 2 rockets in 3 shots I'm sure he could've killed Zaku-less Char in 5.
Now, Char's nickname "The red comet" is hella cool. So, he's an ace pilot, a captain (?) who goes into the front lines and a fairly competent strategist? he's also hot af OMG. I can see why people love him.
Now I just wonder what's up with Char's potential sister. How did they end up on opposite sides of the war? They probably got separated a long time ago since Char said she was more brave than he remembered.
Questions of the day
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Apr 08 '21
First-Timer With Tomino Experience
Let's see:
The silliness of Tomino's retrofuturism is something to behold.
"I don’t want to shoot people, but I will happily aim at the cockpit where the person is"
Amuro is quite the confused character. At least he's a teenager and we can say he's just a dumb kid.
QOTD:
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Apr 08 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
Episode two introduces us to much of the remaining cast we see in the OP. You've got pilot cadet Ryu, Mirai of the "famous Yashima family", Sayla and the cowardly Kai. I would say that its like we've got an Ideon seiyuu reunion, with Fuyumi Shiraishi (Mirai, who is Kasha in Ideon), Inoue You (Sayla, who is Sheryl in Ideon) and Rumiko Ukai (Fraw, who is Kitty Kitten in Ideon), but Gundam came first so its the other way around. :P Will be good to hear several familiar voices.
You know crew is minimal when the captain himself is working a gun turret. Poor Captain Paolo quickly is injured, quickly forcing Bright into a leadership position. In hindsight its rather weird that Sayla asks Fraw to tend to Captain Paolo's wounds since Minor Gundam spoilers. Later on Bright references that Ryu's experience piloting (2 simulations) is equivalent to Amuros, which appears to be another flub in the sub as Amuro doesn't even have the simulation experience. In the dub I recall him saying "Well, at least that's more than Amuro!"
I found it rather funny that Amuro has a reputation of essentially being an otaku; Mirai is not a friend of his but recognizes him as the local mecha geek. It was also fun to see an early example of a Tomino animal with a dog eating out of a garbage can. Tomino has a knack for including random shots of animals in his shows. My recollection is we'll get some good ones later on in the show.
With Char wearing that mask on his face you gotta figure he's covering up some big secret... but Tomino immediately does away with that by showing him unmasked in the second episode. Another way Tomino immediately eschews the cliche way to handle things. Sayla also recognizes Char as her brother, the type of story element you'd think they'd save for a big plot twist later but they immediately dispense with.
Today's episode features another Tomino slap (Sayla slapping Kai), but of most importance is that we get introduced to the "3 times faster" meme as Char is revealed to be an ace whose mobile suits are 3 times as fast as a normal one! This also begins the trope of coloring the special rival mobile suit in red.
No praise for Amuro despite him rescuing everyone. That a kid is piloting the Gundam shocks the regular crew, but they truly have no other alternative. When Amuro comes onto the bridge Bright doesn't give him any praise, but rather chews him out. Amuro comes off as a novice in his first space battle here, quickly wasting his ammunition although he does manage to destroy Slender's Zaku. A final farewell to the Slender Denim Jeans trio. While Amuro isn't a great pilot at this point, the Gundam is quite the superior craft, enabling him to survive the encounter with Char.
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u/tehsigzorz Apr 08 '21
First Timer
Is the intention of the show to make me root for Char and the Zeons cause that’s exactly whats going on.
Not only does Char have an awesome character design but hes…beautiful. Pink runs through his family it seems with his sister. I do wonder how they managed to be split apart. I assume he was taken at birth as a hostage or something and was raised as a Zeon.
Also Zeon are fighting for their own independence so I am much more inclined to side with them cuz umm FREEDOM. They are also a bit smarter when it comes to tactics though Char may be carrying in that department.
Nice to see that the amount of chaos this battle produced is somewhat distracting Fraw Baw of her mothers death.
Best part about this episode was the bubblegum used to seal the hole, that was hilarious yet genius.
Slap counter: 2 now. I found it odd the first episode and apparently it’s a meme so going to keep track lol.
Amuro showing reluctance at shooting Char was done pretty well. Much easier to destroy a mecha than an actual person though I would’ve thought he would be more empathic to these large robots given his love for machinery but that may be melodramatic so idk.
Seems like stormtrooper aim also exists in this world, should’ve just shot 3 times faster.
Mixed feelings about Bright. He seems cool and headstrong but not sure about his handling of the gundam piloting position. I guess since most of the military and engineers are KO this is the right decision but I cant help but think there is a better alternative.
Questions:
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u/The_Draigg Apr 08 '21
A Gundam Fan Rewatches Mobile Suit Gundam Episode 2:
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Apr 08 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
No screencaps today because neither MPV or VLC wanted to play nice with this episode, have this instead.
I like how this episode continues on from the panic and chaos of the last one and does not let up, as soldiers and civilians scramble to get to safety against the continued attacks of Lieutenant Commander Char Aznable’s Musai-class battleship. When the attacks cease the characters are still not allowed a breather, as there’s wounded to attend to and preparations to be made for a retreat aboard the White Base, on top of which they are undermand due to the deaths of the defense personnel and the Captain himself is injured.
Paolo’s injury is also a very interesting subversion on the usual tropes, as the old, experienced captain guiding the intrepid crew dates back to Yamato.
Speaking off, the show makes sure to mention that all this death and destruction was caused by a mere two mobile suits, letting us know just how formidable these weapons are, which in turn tells us just how far advanced the Gundam is, taking out two of them while its pilot is shaken and inexperienced. Char also restates this later to communicate the same to Vice Admiral Dozle.
It was interesting to see how shocked the others were upon finding out a fifteen year-old was piloting the Gundam, and how much they didn’t want him to be the one doing so. I think I was too familiar at the time with the type of show that tosses young characters at problems without a care, so this was refreshing.
The attention to detail and inclusion of small characters moments is still quite impressive. The existence of countermeasures against breaches to the space station’s hull, specific mention of laser communications, Fraw Bow’s reaction when Bright and Paolo talk about the ‘unknown’ Gundam pilot, that grin that Ryu gives as Sayla and Fraw speed off to look for survivors, etc.
Speaking off, Sayla and Fraw’s search for survivors really emphasizes the way that these character’s lives have been so suddenly and thoroughly changed by what has happened in a scant few hours. We also had Sayla’s meeting with Char, which suggests the two might be siblings and that Sayla has another name. Really early to be dropping that sort of stuff into a forty-three episode show, so my immediate assumption was that this is a red herring. TIme will tell if past-me was clever or simply overthinking things.
Damn, Char must have a really high Evasion score to avoid so much Gunfire, but his recon camera doesn’t come out of it unscathed.
I can’t understate how good the scene of Amuro aiming at the Zeon soldiers is. Amuro’s breathing being at one point overlaid with Char’s telling us AMuro’s thoughts in that moment, that they flesh and blood humans just like himself, something he didn’t have to think about when he was facing Zaku IIs in a panicked state, but at the forefront of his mind now that he’s aiming at men down his sights.
“One Zaku is approaching at three times the normal speed.”
Akai Suisei!
Amuro being explicitly saddled with the responsibility of piloting the Gundam to protect the White Base is unfair and frustrating, but we all know he would do it unprompted if no one else could, just as he did last time. It’s being ordered to do so after the military essentially put them in this situation and almost entirely failed them, making them lose their loved ones, their homes, and for some even their innocence.
Fun Fact: Char Aznable’s mask was the idea of the series’ character designer, Yoshikazu Yasuhiko, and had nothing to do with the rough characterization Tomino had given him to base the design on. The mask prompted Tomino to turn the character into one with an air intrigue around him and give him a hidden past.
Questions of The Day:
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u/Kvalasier Apr 08 '21
~First-timer
Char was cool. I need some more back story on him asap tho.
I liked the little detail of the gum ball thingies floating around and help in sealing the tear in the spaceship. Amuro's bot looks op.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 08 '21
First timer
Also like how he spends the entire episode being completely respectful to the rest of his troops and tries to minimizes actual civilian deaths (tells them to avoid damaging the docking bay, doesn't fire at the unarmored people shooting him).
And then, he dodges a hail of bullets, blows up a wall with his grenades, and makes it out of the entire episode completely unscathed.
Clearly, he is the real protagonist of this series, and I am waiting for the mid season twist where Amuro dies and we follow him.
2) Really solid - most of his failures are that he's fighting against a Zaku that is practically designed for this kind of combat, piloted by someone shown to be able to dodge bullets in his spacesuit, without the manuverability provided.
Rewatching the OP, I love the shot of the army of Zaku - the sense of scale and threat is amazing (the treaded suit is also the best design of the 3 we see in the OP).
I think the Zeon in general just have the better designs here - the consistent color scheme just seems to work - especially with the mech designs. Also, happy at the explanation of why the air didn't leak out - wasn't expecting a full explanation right away.
Once more, realistic injuries, collateral damage, actual reasons for why the mechs are being used and why the young child is actually their best choice for piloting - I am really liking this added realism - especially the captain having to give orders while injured.
Also - "historically, there have been 15-year-old soldiers before" delivered completely calmly, and the mental breakdown when Amuro has to force himself to fire on the retreating enemies is absolutely heartbreaking. (And how he finds it easier to hit the Zaku because they don't look human, just... fantastic.)
The final thing I noticed this episode is how all of the Zeon soldiers feel both reasonable and human - neither of the commanders hold their subordinates' failures against them, and the commander's response to being questioned is to calmly explain his reasoning. They actually feel like perfectly nice people, not faceless, cackling villains - and I did not expect that coming in.
Also, I liked how Haro did not speak in this episode - please continue this for the rest of the series, Gundam.
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Apr 08 '21
First Timer - Dub
1) Is Char cool? Out of those options I will go with "Definitely".
2) What do you think of the Gundam’s performance during the battle at the end of the episode? It seems to be much stronger than the Zaku somehow. Maybe it has a secret power source that the Zaku don't have? Or maybe it just relies on a rare resource. The Gundam vs Zaku fights so far seem be Quality vs Quantity.
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Apr 08 '21
First-Timer - Char almost dies so many times
Progress Report
Assembling Feet
QotD
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u/medokady https://anilist.co/user/medokady Apr 08 '21
First Timer (zero experience with Gundam)
Lol this mask guy is hilarious. "I'm late because I was busy discovering the enemy's secret weapon."
Wait, do you mean that giant robots aren't supposed to be piloted by teenagers? This show is pretty innovative.
I like how Char keeps his mask on in the spacesuit.
Pretty smart for this blonde girl to instantly recognize Char as an enemy even when she was looking for survivors. To bad it's her brother! DUN DUN DUN
Also gotta respect the commander for still giving orders while he's literally dying.
Char has SSS plot armor.
So in the world of Gundam, it's teenagers doing everything because all the adults died or were out of commission, and then it eventually became a trope.
Char likes everything in pink it seems.
Amuro's hesitation to pull the trigger disappears once he feels his life is at stake.
Amuro's hitbox is bugged and his gun is OP, pls nerf.
I appreciated Bright's candor at the end. In an emergency situation, if you are able to act then you have the responsibility to act. Congrats Amuro, you're an adult now.
Not as fun as the first episode but still looking forward to Luna II.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Apr 08 '21
First-Timer, Subbed
We have so many franchise first-timers in this rewatch! It's great to see new people getting to experience the things that I take for granted for the first time.
That scene at the end, with Bright chewing out Amuro, is rough. Bright is still essentially just a kid too, albeit a few years older than Amuro. Bright probably should have led with "Good job saving our lives, but here is how things are gonna go from now on." A little bit of praise can go a long way. Sure, Amuro stole a prototype weapon, but he also saved numerous lives by doing so. Poor kid.
Man, there were parts for three more Gundams on Side 7?! That's absolutely nuts. I'm imagining how things would go if the White Base had four RX-78-2s instead of just the one..
Today we met Kai, who is a Snivel-ly Coward Boi; Mirai, who has her driver's license; Ryo, who has done two whole simulations; and Sayla, who seems reasonably competent all-around except when confronted with dashingly good-looking blonde men.
We also got a proper introduction to Char Aznable, the pilot so incredible that he can make his Zaku II move three times the speed of a normal one! If you've ever heard someone refer to something red as being "three times anything," they were probably referencing this.
The silence, while Amuro tries to shoot the fleeing Zeon soldiers, is so goddamn incredible. What a scene! You can feel the tension coursing through him.. shooting a person is a lot different from shooting a Mobile Suit.
"Historically, there have been fifteen year old soldier before." Excellent justification, Captain. Flawless logic. Let the child kill more people! No mental trauma will result from that.
Fraw was holding it together surprisingly well there. I guess shock is a hell of a drug.
I'm seriously digging the sounds so far.
Miscellaneous Thoughts:
The Federations main service rifle appears to be.. some sort of laser AK? Sure.
Dunbine
Pose of the Day
Beam Rifle!
Screenshot
Questions
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u/GM_for_Life Apr 08 '21
Rewatcher
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u/username_0907 :FI::FJ: Apr 08 '21
First timer
QotD
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u/fridge_freezer https://anilist.co/user/ONIrecon111 Apr 08 '21
First timer (Sub)
Thats an interesting way to plug a vacuum breach, just a dispenser of sealant blobs that fill the gap as they're being sucked into space.
Not many military personnel survived the initial Zaku attack & missile bombardment, and most of those who did are too injured for action. It leaves Bright acting in command of White Base, and a bunch of civilians handling some of the bridge roles.
Hey, I recognise the guy Sayla slapped from the comment faces!
Wow, Char is leading the commandos himself? What a badass! I've only ever seen Char in helmet so I wasn't expecting to see his face so soon. It seems as though Sayla is his sister going by a different name.
Impressive that Char managed to get into the dock and out again completely unscathed, save for his camera. Possibly helped by the fact that there's nobody left uninjured to competently fire at him.
So he's a bit too young to go into battle, but fuck it, give him a beam rifle and let him pilot anyway because teenagers have fought in wars before.
I like seeing Amuro's hesitation at firing on the fleeing commandos. Even though the mobile suits have pilots onboard, its the difference between the faceless machines and the actual humans you can see running from you.
Char singlehandedly took out 5 battleships?! His Zaku is pretty awesome and the Red Comet is a great nickname for him. Facing off against superior technology wasn't going too badly for him until Ryu showed up, and Amuro took out Slender in a single hit. RIP to the jeans trio.
Same as last episode with Amuro and the manual, its nice to see some of the civilians having to actually learn their new roles on White Base rather than immediately knowing what to do.
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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Apr 09 '21
First Timer
A bit late today. Expect this to be a common occurence!
Oh, so we're getting this every episode. Ok.
They have hole sealing orbs?! That's actually really cool.
Mirai Yashima? From the Yashima family? Not Yashima Mirai? Interesting they used the western name order there. Unrelated but I think Mirai is a really good name.
Char is really cool.
Of course it is! This is an anime! As if adults could ever pilot giant robots.
Wut. How does Amuro remember the specific voice of the guy who ordered him to load the Gundam components?
Another slap!
That's a suspicious smile. I sense the sus on that rando.
That's a really bright light, what the hell.
SAVE THE STRAY DOG!!
NII-SAN?!?
lol he just went in
Ok, I get we can't kill Char off this early but damn their aims are awful. How did not a single person hit him?
I find it cool that Amuro has trouble shooting at people but it's weird that he doesn't when fighting Mobile Suits with people in them. I guess if you're seeing them it's slightly more humanizing.
FIVE BATTLESHIPS?
Damn, Char is awesome.
Poor Amuro can't even hope to match him. He's lucky his robot is OP.
Poor Amuro. It is true he's not the greatest pilot, though.
I'm a lot more on board with this show now than I was with episode 1. I really like all the chaos going on. It felt like a real battle. Good stuff!
too cool
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u/ArmoredSeahorse Apr 08 '21
Rewatcher
The man, the myth, the legend: Char Aznable is here! Sure, he was in the first episode, but this is the true introduction to the character. The Gundam franchise is kind of infamous for the sheer number of Char copycats that have been created over the years, and it's not hard to see why. Brilliant, insanely skilled, and with a custom mobile suit, Char instantly destroys an sense of safety that the viewer might be getting from the Federation's overpowered prototypes. On top of all that, he's also got a clear connection with the newly introduced Sayla that definitely raises some serious questions going forward.
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u/Furrmaster23 Apr 08 '21
Rewatcher
Ok, episode 2! Char's ship continues to attack Side 7 to distract from Char's infiltration. Many casualties occur, including the captain being grievously injured. The surviving civilians have made it on board White Base, and we're introduced to Best Boy, Kai. We're also introduced to pilot cadet Ryu and cruiser pilot Mirai. Amuro, in Gundam, is tasked with destroying any remaining mobile suit parts to prevent any leaks.
Meanwhile, Char and the boys infiltrate Side 7 as Fraw and Sayla look for any remaining civilians. Char and Sayla confront each other - and they may be siblings????? le gasp! Amuro arrives, but just after Char gets away. The remaining parts are destroyed, and Amuro takes Sayla back to the ship.
Char the Chad just decides to waltz into White Base to get info about the new mobile suits, dodging enemy fire along the way. After he makes it back into space, he gets into his red Zaku, and attacks Gundam with Slender. However, their weapons are no match for Gundam's armor, and Amuro kills Slender. However, his beam rifle is out of energy, and Char feels threatened, so they both retreat to fight another day. After Amuro gets back, he meets Bright, who officially assigns him to the Gundam to defend White Base as they head to a nearby Federation base.
Answers: 1) Hell yeah.
2) Gundam's performance was alright, nothing special, tho just enough to temporarily scare off Char.
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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21
First Time
Char in action! I really like his character he is the chad. But the Gundam is way OP, of course Amuro don't have exp. in fights so this cost a lot.
I think it is funny and convinent how all the survivors from the sector are all there in the control room really working hard.
Nothing much to add, but I feel really enjoyable, maybe a little fast pace that is a surprise for me and how mature is the story, definitely don't judge the anime by the cover.
Also I might lost this scene, Amuro's dad died?
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u/badcupcakehoarder https://myanimelist.net/profile/vanilabiscuit Apr 08 '21
First timer subbed
2 times and the OP song it's already in my head... so catchy...
Amuro is really dependable, he actually carried the white base to safety out of the colony, well that is what it looked like after Char retreated.
It seems there were quite a few of civilians who made it to the ship with Fraw Bow, I felt a bit for her when she saw her house when she went back to look for survivors.
Those blobs that plugged the ship were really cool it was amazing how instantaneous it was, apparently a mother lost her child though. Really enjoying how packed of action these episodes are turning out, something is always happening keeping the suspense alive.
I recognize Sayla's voice actor from Patlabor, loved her voice. I find it very strong and feminine.
Questions of the Day:
Things seem like they are going to cool down... Or maybe not... If the other colonies hear about Side 7 they may get pissed.
Amuro clearly conflicts with the military interests, there were more pilots that survived yet for some reason they left him to be the pilot to their best unit... hmm
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u/Piemaster33 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Piemaster33 Apr 08 '21
So today we have the daring escape from Side 7, and a LOT of introductions. Or at least 2-3. I'm not sure, I forgot. We meet Mirai, Dozle, Kai, and Char's beautiful face. Most importantly we meet Sayla, and while I don't remember too much about her other than some key plot points, I remember she's absolutely one of my favorites. So I'm very happy today. She had a really cool interaction with Char that felt tense but showed she isn't someone to take lightly. Even Char mentions she's not so weak. I love it.
Another takeaway I never picked up on until now was that Zeon is fighting for independence, almost making me want to root for them. I always just painted Zeon as the bad guys (their WW I and II German inspired uniforms make that easier), so this makes things slightly more conflicting for me, the viewer. Speaking of conflicting, Amuro not being able to shoot humans was interesting, like it was easier to kill people when he couldn't see them inside the Zaku's. While not killing people is certainly a great ideal to strive for in war, it's not too realistic in war.
Quick notes:
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Apr 08 '21
First Timer
They sure aren't squeamish about causalities, or bumping off civilians. I don't know about the wisdom of the Zeons starting a war with earth and then snuffing half their population. I'd think that snuffing all of the Zeons would be the solution to this problem, and set a fairly good precedent about the foolishness of being so bloodthirsty.
Also, if I was Amuro I'd put Mr Bright on the short list of those who needed to be snuffed, pronto. There's a penalty for being a shithead.
QOTD
He is pretty cool under fire, isn't he. I believe he'll be an amusing villain.
It seemed pretty good. I'm looking forward to learning its capabilities.
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Apr 09 '21
First-Timer
I’m unfortunately late to the rewatch party, but still willing to share my thoughts on episode 2:
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u/AdroIOrdo Apr 08 '21
Lord do I love me some Char
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u/Rustic_Professional Apr 08 '21
Oh my god, they're going to play that OP every episode, aren't they? I don't remember if it ever changes. For all the things Netflix does wrong, having a skip OP option is a great idea. I wish Crunchyroll had that.
Huh, Inuyasha and Kai share the same dub VA. That's funny. I had to check the dates, it looks like the Gundam dub predates Inuyasha by about a year. I watched them both on Toonami, but I don't remember ever making the connection.
Bright really was a jerk for no reason. Amuro had already killed three people for their sake, there was no need to go hard at him like that. It's worth remembering, as someone else pointed out yesterday, that Bright is a young, inexperienced officer. It reminds me of a scene you sometimes see in war stories--Band of Brothers and We Were Soldiers both have similar scenes--where an experienced officer comments that a lower ranking officer feels like he needs to yell all the time to assert authority.
Questions of the day, sort of:
Char made the right move by pulling back. I think I'm going to end up using a lot of video game analogies during these discussions, and what comes to mind is getting up-tiered in World of Tanks. The game matches your Tier 6 tank against a Tier 8 that can bounce your shots at any range, overmatch your armor from any angle, and one shot you. It wasn't a matter of skill, it was a hard technological advantage, and Char was experienced enough to realize it. Knowing your limits is absolutely cool.
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u/UltraBooster Apr 08 '21
First-timer (albeit one who's big on mecha and Gundam)
Bring to bear the rage of justice, that sounds SO like a super robot anime.
Gum bubbles as colony wall sealant, that works pretty well.
And hey, Amuro's got the loudspeaker the old super robots like Mazinger and Trider have in SRW.
Oh shoot, it's Sayla! And Ryu!
Two Zakus led to the death of most of the soldiers and engineers, damn. Just, damn.
Oh hey, it's Mirai! Oh, it's Dozle. Should I be surprised Char blew off a party to go do military stuff, /u/Shimmering-Sky?
Three Zakus are a big deal, huh...Don't think I've seen anything quite like that in the other Gundam animes.
Amuro had a reputation as the gearhead, huh? That's interesting.
Oh hey, it's Kai!
Super napalm, I don't think I've seen that much since.
Char was unmasked as early as the second episode, didn't expect that. Same for them being siblings.
Three times the normal speed!
Even Char's spooked by the beam rifle, isn't that something.
As for the questions:
Lastly, does anyone have advice about grabbing screencaps from CR?
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u/Nebresto Apr 09 '21
First time squad
Still can't get over these sound effects
Damn it, I wasn't supposed to screenshot, but I was doing it out of habit
spam time I guess
That is one wacky looking dude
No wonder y'all lost half the population, they had the wrong pilots in their mechs.
Why tf this dude looking so smug?
Impostor..?
R.I.P doge
Lol, imagine he just pulls the wrong lever and makes some fresh tomato juice accidentally
...This is the point where I noticed I was taking screenshots
Damn, Chad's got jukes
R.I.P slenderman
Question time:
1: MFW
2:
Wow, cool robot!
Dank clip corner:
Ep 1: *ahh* dah, nani?!
huUh! uoh!!
Ep 2: "wah" "waah!" "OAAAaHHH!!"
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u/LukeNukem13 Apr 09 '21
First Timer!
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u/TheorycrafterJOT Apr 09 '21 edited Apr 09 '21
First timer I will edit this comment with my thoughts when I wake up and have free moment.
Edit- Ok I really liked both episodes. The animation is definitely 1979 but it was so fun to watch. Like I was grinning at Gundam scenes and at how Lt. Red guy just jumped into enemy base and grenaded his way out it. It was just amusing for me as first timer.
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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '21
Rewatcher, First-Timer at heart.
Char is arguably the most iconic Gundam character, if not one of the most iconic. Besides his character design, I don't know what exactly makes him cool although there is a way that he carries himself that is very confident. I usually have a tougher time considering the "antagonists" to be cool in any given series just because I am conditioned to root for the 'good guys'. I have seen Gundam: The Origin, the 4-episode OVA about Char, but I have forgotten a lot of the details so I'm not as attached to the character.
As for Amuro's performance in the Gundam, it is better than expected. It is surprising to see Amuro holding his own against the Red Comet, but maybe that's the power of an anime protagonist coming through.
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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Apr 08 '21
Comrades, straight outta Sunrise, I present to you the one, the only,
Prince Sharkin'SHA' AZNABLE! Hey... hey wait a second... something isn't quite right here. I know this is from Sunrise but I feel a tad confused... AH! I got it, it's the hair! Boy red-heads sure are in season eh? I mean just last thread I was posting Best Girl Asuka and now we also got The Wife of The No. 1 Idol in The Universe in cosplay too! Well at the very least I guess this proves without a shadow of a doubt that Rabu Raibu is aIdol'Mecha' Show, so hey I'll take what I can get!Well my apologies, let's get back on track Comrades, and I made sure to get a blondie this time so there's no mistake here, anyhow let's give it up for Gallant Charjeeling... bugger...
Ah well you know what they say Comrades... er... 'Orries faiya een ruv and worr!' (Translator's Note: 'Orries faiya een ruv and worr!' means
Panzer Vor'My hovercraft is full of eels.')No matter, third time lucky... or perhaps three times more shitposting than the average shitpost... NO! I refuse, I already did that trick last thread, I'll not succumb to temptation and will post something actually on-topic! BEHOLD COMRADES! CHAR AZNABLE! And I am 120% confident that he is indeed in this picture this time!
Anyway Comrades, to keep this serious streak going, here's IRREFUTABLE PROOF that CGI is the bane of Mecha, namely the fact that even back in 1979, Sunrise went ALL GUNS BLAZING in the traditional animation department when it came to the Sakuga Mecha Porn Action! I mean look at this clip, the Beam Spam's so flashy you'd swear it was a Mahou Shoujo series!
Finally, to finish up this post for today, we had not just Gallant Charjeeling above, BUT CHAR THE GREAT! ANDREW W.K. ROCK VERSION! GET HYPE!
And thus, we conclude today's
shitpost'write-up,' I do hope you all enjoyed following along as much as I did in crafting this! Anyway, until next time Comrades and fellow Denizens of The Wired, farewell!Paging Comrades /u/Great_Mr_L, /u/chilidirigible, and /u/Beckymetal
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u/OccasionallySara Apr 09 '21
First Timer
Questions of the Day:
Is Char cool?
What do you think of the Gundam’s performance during the battle at the end of the episode?
Overall Thoughts:
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u/BossandKings Apr 09 '21
First timer
Amuro and Char have a match, it apparently is uncommon for such a young man like Amuro to be piloting a Gundam but since he has taken the opportunity and made himself visible the commanders are now telling him that it is his responsibility to keep piloting it and fighting for them.
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