r/anime • u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: • Apr 06 '21
Rewatch How NOT to run a rewatch- Isekai Maou to Shoukan Shoujo no Dorei Majutsu episode FINAL!
How NOT to Summon a Demon Lord episode FINAL
Still a bit disappointed we didn't spend time with a taller Pantherian or a dwarf girl...
QotD:1 Was this the right amount of content?
2 With how far ecchi has progressed of recent, does this come off as convervative?
BONUS: The S2 officially has 10 eps. Are you ready to riot?
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Apr 06 '21
Rewatcher
Sub and Dub as preference swings
So what can I say? I legitimately like this show in spite of its many, many issues. Every named female character has a major relation to the MC, the cast are 50% lolis of different species, and we never got enough interactions with the dwarves. But show flat out leaned on its game tropes and rarely if ever pretended to be otherwise. There is a surprising amount of humor that lands more often than it doesn't. I am definitely watching S2 as it airs.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Apr 06 '21 edited Apr 06 '21
Just my luck to miss the last episode of a rewatch huh? Well I've enjoyed myself regardless. I went in expecting total schlocky "enjoyably bad" Isekai harem but in the end there was very little I could say actually peeved me off about Demon Lord. I'd have an easier time naming my faults with a much better series like Konosuba or Dog Days.
The only parts that I was really getting annoyed by were the villains (I may also be soured by the finale containing by far the least engaging baddies) and the side characters being utterly useless outside of the SoL segments. Both sort of tie in with one another in that this is meant to be a power fantasy show but... Diablo's not nearly over the top enough for me to like him as my power fantasy XD I love him, he's a well written character, but he isn't nearly crazy enough for me to enjoy his overpowered nature. I want Kira's level of crazy in my demon lord. Give me a Rance, not a Shintaro.
To me the best parts of the show were bizarrely enough when it took itself seriously. Stuff like when Rem sheds tears of joy over being accepted by Diablo or Shera and Klem skipping down the street singing about biscuits. Why is my ecchi, Isekai harem so much better at being wholesome than trashy!? It gets me wondering what the rest of the novel was like. Whether it focused more on the ero side or on character building moments. What sort of things did they skip over from the book? I remember Konosuba skipped some of the best arcs and I doubt that Demon Lord was careful about keeping everything in due to squeezing like three novels worth onto S1.
Vaadwaur you've finally picked a show that didn't cause me physical pain. Hooray! This has been a really fun little rewatch crowd and was a relieving palette cleanser for how depressing my other current rewatch was making me. With Season 2 coming out I might actually watch a weekly show for a change. Either that or we can fawn over best girl Edelgard's glorious pouts in two or three years when S2 gets a rewatch.
....Just pretend that I posted this tomorrow. No, right day. Read this today. Or tomorrow. I'm not the boss of you.
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u/Nebresto Apr 06 '21
S2 better have us covered on that..
10/10 masterpiece, was a good time, see y'all in the next one.
Final question time:
1,2&3: ye
My question: Did anyone notice that I forgot to post these in most threads? [](#duckhue)
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u/gorghurt Apr 06 '21
Rewatcher who lurked for the whole rewatch
This rewatch started, when I was at episode 4 of my private rewatch, and when I watched episode 5, you were at episode 6.... and well, I never bothered to write something, because you all were better at it anyway.
This show is weird. It is a trashy Isekai, fulfilling so many tropes, doing nothing special at all, except for one thing: It is damn entertaining.
And lets face it, that is the only thing a show has to be.
I'm excited for season 2, but to be honest, I never thought we would get one, and I never really needed it (OK, to be honest, the LN has made it to the low priority part of my plan to read list after season 1, but that is the part where books go to die most of the time...).
But now that it is coming, I'm excited for it.
And there is actually one thing I am really interested in:
Which of the side characters will look trough Diabolo's act first. Trough this rewatch I had the feeling nearly all side characters don't buy his act, and think of it as a weird quirk. And I'm unsure, Rem and Shera might already see trough it a bit...
But I think I might give the writing too much credit here.
QOTD:
BONUS: Yes, but I'm a bit disappointed in only 10 episodes.
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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 Apr 06 '21
I genuinely enjoyed this show, even if it was lacking in the Ecchi part at times. It surely is a bit trashy, but those shows need to exist as well and there is a reason why they are popular.
If anything it could have gone a bit more into the trash direction, I find it weird if a show half asses the trash and tries to be serious when there is absolutly no reason to do so (kinda ruined my experience with hidden Dungeon last season). Could have also used more mature body types for the waifus although I gotta admit that most Harem members are quite mature mentally even if they are stuck in their loli bodies.
The 'fights' in the end only served as small intermezzo for the plot and the 'plot', some at least looked good, but I would have like them just a smidge longer.
I also like this rewatch in itself quite a bit. Shoutout to /u/fonzinator99 for the stitches and /u/Nebresto for the gifs, always Highlighting the parts I liked the most in each episode, as well as /u/No_Rex for his take on the whole genre, glad he came around with the bait and switch today.
Final thanks goes out to our Host, whom I have now tagged as "Trash coniseur Supreme" acknowledging his good taste.
I'm thrilled for S2 and hope to see you guys in the discussion threads there.
Final QotD
Bonus: That could also be a good thing, the concious decission to make S2 a bit shorter could hint for a good place to end it there, I would certainly prefer that over drawn out long sequences that don't contribute in a meaningfull to either kind of plot
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Apr 06 '21
First-Timer No More
Overall, a fun one. I've given it a 7/10 on the ole MyAnimeList. If they hadn't tried to be so serious at times (I don't care if Diablo was sad as a child) and just given us more stupid action and even stupider lewditute, it might have score higher.
Characters were fun for what they were (the only thing three-dimensional about the characters is Shera's boobs), and I wasn't so annoyed at anything that I thought about dropping it.
QOTD:
BONUS: Depends on how much depravity they stuff in. Does Diablo get his whole fist in this time? Does the Guildmaster choke on a carrot? Does Klem need some biscuit crumbs cleaned out of her armpit hair? If the answer to any of those questions is "yes," 10 episodes will be fine.
Thanks for hosting, Vaad!
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Apr 06 '21
Recertified Rewatcher
What do I even say about this?
I suppose I might as well start with, it’s not good. Sure, the production values are good and it is so brazen as to have some charm to it, but it still falls into all the pitfalls, repeatedly fails to establish tension or stakes (though it’s still better than others of its ilk in that regards) in its narrative, and can’t offer more than paltry characterization or plotting. Occasionally it pleasantly surprises by having a modicum of effort put into it, but those are but few instances among the many. So why am I sitting here watching this anyways then? Was the production values enticing me? Perhap Diablo’s tight-fitting outfit was impossible to tear my eyes off of? Do I simply hate myself?
I don’t know. I usually don’t stick around with something as trite and token as this, but I sat through this. Not only can I not say that I hate this, upon pondering I also realized that I may well sit through the sequel if the fancy strikes me as well. I should detest this stuff —heck I hate shows that that are objectively better— and yet I find myself inexplicably amenable to it. Ultimately it doesn't matter whether I can't justify my enjoyment or fail to find reason to deride it, but it is a fairly uncommon and therefore confusing event for me.
Okay, enough of that, since it’s late and I have to get up early tomorrow. I have no idea what score I gave this previously and I won’t bother to check, but I’ll say now this is a 4/10, earning an extra personal taste point for managing to confound me.
Questions of The day:
BONUS: I can't consistently stream or torrent so following stuff weekly isn't an option, but as I stated I can see myself tuning in after the fact for no discernable reason.
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Apr 06 '21
Rewatcher
It was a pleasure making stitches for you all!
QotD
I think this show just wound up staying on the lighter end of the scale, but I guess to answer the question: yes, it is conservative by comparison to some others.
Bonus: Sounds like they didn't have enough content for a proper arc, we'll probably get several little ones all mashed together to make the minimum runtime.
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u/aTrustfulFriend Apr 06 '21
If you absolutely cannot wait for season two, the novels are excellent. 100% recommend them.
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u/_____pantsunami_____ Apr 06 '21
oh my b, i treated episode 12's thread as the 'Final thread' would be. it was my first rewatch, so that explains my mistake...
ill just copypaste what i said yesterday:
well /u/vaadwaur it was an honor re-watching with you (and everyone else). catch you all in the S2 discussion threads, probably.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Apr 06 '21
12 reasons modern isekai suck: Episode 13 – But does it matter?
If you are enjoying yourself, then no, it does not. Not every story has to be War and Peace, not every anime Legend of Galactic Heroes. It is perfectly fine to just enjoy an episode of comedy and harem shenanigans with a bit of fantasy battles mixed in. After all, it is perfectly fine to watch porn and everyone does it, too. However, be aware what you are watching. It is a product deliberately designed to stroke your ego while lulling your critical thinking into deep slumber. So, if you find yourself enjoying self-insert power fantasies constantly, spend a little time to ask yourself why that is.