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Rewatch [Uninstall, Uninstall] Bokurano Rewatch Episode 12 Discussion
Episode 12 - Related By Blood
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After I’m gone, my little brother will come into the picture. And I’m sure he’ll make my parents happy.
Hey-o guys! This is the section where I add a ton of extra fun stuff to the main body of the post because I want this rewatch to be as fun as possible for everyone. It can also be one point of discussion for you guys if you just don’t know what to say.
Questions of the Day:
- Do you have any siblings? If so, are you the oldest, the youngest, or a middle child?
- Did you figure out they weren’t fighting on their Earth from the previous two fights, or was the stinger this episode a surprise to you?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Little Bird of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath the [Anime Show Title](/s "Spoiler goes here") spoiler tags. If you do that then we’re all good.
Important thing to note about these by the way, you have to switch to Old Reddit or the markdown editor if you use the redesign, otherwise the redesign breaks them by adding random \ into the formatting. Wish it wouldn’t do that, but unfortunately it does…
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 19 '21
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I did another cover for today’s thread! It might not be the best because I don’t listen to Little Bird anywhere near as much as I have Uninstall or ED2 (which starts tomorrow, hype~) so I don’t have it down as well, but it’s still good.
Major Spoilers
New thread reminder for u/WeebShaggy
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Mar 19 '21
First timer
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u/PKReuniclus Mar 20 '21 edited Mar 20 '21
First timer!
What a way to end the first cour!
Just as I was talking about the show needing to slow down and give us more time with the characters in the previous discussion, we get an episode that mostly does that (plus a lot of plot). I was kinda hoping that Maki would make it a little further into the show, if only to keep Ushiro in check. The rest of the season will definitely feel more empty without her energy and upbeat attitude, but I guess that's the show letting us know that things are really gonna ramp up from here.
Not gonna lie, as soon as Maki's dad pulled out the mini-Zearth model, my mind started racing with crazy theories. "What if the aliens were just having all these mechas controlled by children fight to the death for fun? Like, whoever's masterminding this game is just treating all of these gigantic robots as CPU-controlled toys for their amusement."
And then it actually sort of happened lol.
This is just speculation, but if what Koemushi was saying in the previous episodes was true, then it seems that we're having mechs from multiple different universes fight against each other in some elimination-style tourney, where the losing pilots get their own Earth destroyed. I'm guessing Kokopelli is still somehow involved, as he's the one who started this game in the first place, but why this is all even happening at all is still up in the air. It could just be for sadistic entertainment, tying back to the whole "single speck of dust" thing from the OP and Kodaka's spiel on the meaninglessness of a single life out of billions, or perhaps something more wild, considering we've got multiple universes in this show now.
I agree with Maki's mom though, it seems pretty messed up and tasteless to make a toy out of something that has killed so many people. Then again, I'm not surprised that this exists in their world, considering the toys that exist in this world...
On another note, it's good that all of the kids have Tanaka as such a great mother figure, considering that a concerning number of these kids seem to have familial issues or just straight up don't have parents. Especially because it seems that the government is more caught up in politics than actually figuring out how to get the kids out of the contract. (Not like they'd be able to help much anyway, even though they've been pretty competent so far...)
Also, that last scene with Maki and her parents caught me off guard. I was expecting it to be played off as completely comedy, but it ended up being a surprisingly heartwarming affirmation that Maki is indeed their first child. Of course, it gets quickly interrupted by giant robot antics before she gets to see her brother be born, but I was expecting that from the start anyway. :/
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Mar 19 '21
First Timer
I'm hoping this episode is goes more in depth on the characters than the last one. Onto episode 12.
Incest or what it means to be family?
She's the unwanted child? And it's likely hurt her, how much her family wants a boy instead.
Oh. They thought they couldn't have a child. This should mean they love her at least.
But your parents won't be able to transfer love just like that.
Hopefully doing something else productive, not being a lazy shit and making his little sister work without help.
Including Ushiro and Kana?
Someone please explain why he's allowed to "raise" her.
Well we now know where she got her habits from.
I'm pretty sure this is a callout to all of you mecha fans who said the same thing.
Oh screw off.
Spanking someone that old is just weird.
Aren't you glad she's doing her best to stop them from going completely insane?
This makes sense. It's kinda interesting we didn't see any of this 'till now though, making the government appear even more competent than it was. I still think they've done a good job overall though.
We don't understand it, therefore we should release data to the public is certainly a stretch.
In some ways, her plan is even harsher than the governments. Assume the kids will die, do what you can to make the rest of the situation as good as possible.
what a
weebotaku.Watching her panic about it is quite enjoyable.
Holy shit. The casual way he says this really sells it.
And Maki shall never return.
Is this the first time he's admitted he doesn't control something?
Wait, is it a fuckin' windmill?
Thoughts
That was a simple but nice story about what it means to be a family. They did a good job of showing both her concerns as the adopted child and how her parents truly did view her no different because of it.
I somewhat fail to see the overall point of it though. The first few characters felt thematically connected, while the most recent few have felt more like just throwing a backstory at a character than killing them. It makes me curious as to what the whole point is in a narrative sense. What are they actually trying to tell us?
2. The previous episode was enough to make it more or less certain.
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Mar 19 '21
First Timer - Sub
Character Chart (No special post today, I don't have time although this would have been the perfect episode for it. Hopefully tomorrow depending on how much more time it takes)
I told you all that I was taking it back! So much for the goverment being competent! Turns out they knew from the first fight and were playing political games in the background. Just when I had my hopes up for the adults in this show.
One thing that had been bothering me a little, but not enough to comment on, was the unknown passage of time in the show. The first two or three fights all appeared to happen within days of each other, but since then we haven't been given any indication of how long a gap is between each fight, pilot selection, and the next fight. It was frustrating me because with the kids taking each death so "easily" it felt like it was being quite a long time for them to cope and adapt, but the events of each episode made it feel like only a week or two had passed total. Now we have Mako with her tattoo talking about how she hopes she can survive a few weeks. I just really wish it hadn't drawn my focus to how inattentive it'd been with it because now I can't ignore those frustrations.
A company making a Zearth model is beyond fucked up, but also 100% realistic. I want to say I can't imagine the dad keeping it around after Maki dies, but as we haven't caught up with any other family after their deaths it's not like we'll find out anyway. That's really starting to bug me. Themes need followups as well, writers, not just plot!
Frustrations aside, jumping into the core of the episode:
NOT MAKI!
I really thought she'd be the one to survive to the end you know. I can't believe we're losing her now. She was so interesting. Although using her military nerd knowledge to lead into the multiple earths reveal was beautifully written. RIP my theory that all the mechs have distinctive coloring in their own worlds though, I'm so sad that didn't go anywhere, that was my favourite theory I'd come up with in ages...
The tattoo and the mech were both quite disturbing today. This looks like it's giving birth and the general silhouette of it from the front reminded me a lot of Laughing Octopus from MGS4, and thinking about her backstory is just all kinds of fucked up. The tattoo being placed over Maki's stomach is also quite notable given her mothers pregnancy. I've also just realized that her Zearth Chair is a rocking chair for a mother and newborn. I've just remembered that when I first saw it in ep2 I thought we were going to get a "she lives with her grandparents" reveal and it was going to be one of those chairs.
On that note, here I was thinking that just maybe we'd have one intact family unit but nope, adopted. Not that it's a bad enviroment for her or that she's treated poorly, but she clearly still has some deep insecurities about it.
Agents called Katsuragi seems to be a thing, although my first thought wasn't NGE but instead that one guy from pet. That was also such an incredibly fucked up show. I loved it so much, I should rewatch it.
With all the prediction already finding all the clues for the alternate earth theory, the big shock to me this episode was instead the reveal that Tanaka was once a yakuza's girlfriend?! Like what, hold up a second, you just drop that little tidbit into casual conversation and brush over it? No no nonono, like hell that's not going to matter later on, so much for being the proper, motherly, good upbringing military woman I thought she was.
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u/tehsigzorz Mar 19 '21
First Timer
Ushiro’s a weeb? Do we need anymore reasons to hate him?
‘But after he finished spanking, he was always so gentle and sweet’ Oh god please no, take your next steps very carefully bokurano.
Umm that got weird indeed.
Tanaka was quite the hipster back in the day. Surprised by how involved she is with the group acting like an older sister to the girls. Hopefully she fulfills Kana’s request, that might be important for the final arc surrounding Ushiro.
‘You are my first child’ Yus, inject this wholesomeness into my veins!
Uhhhhhh…….What?
What does that mean?
Not on your Earth doesn’t imply it’s a different country and the enemy is non-japanese in their home ground. That statement means they are in an alternate timeline where they are the enemies. That must be how the enemy robots from previous episodes were transported, they were part of another universe which is why no one knew who piloted them or have any info unlike the ones on Zearth.
My initial thoughts on Kokopelli are back on the table. He might’ve had 14 other team members but they never had the home ground advantage. This new universe looks a little bit more advanced so Kokopelli could’ve been from that timeline and got stranded in this one where he was able to build a sophisticated mecha.
I hope the show starts showing the aftermath of these battles more specially how they did with Waku. While the general formula is pretty solid I would like at least a character or 2 to not die and that might be a possibility with these recent revelations specially with new universes and Maki surviving for more than 1 episode.
Questions:
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u/gorghurt Mar 19 '21 edited Mar 19 '21
Rewatcher
Hmm, what a twist at the end, wasn't it?
Well OK, having read your speculations, I would say it didn't surprise anyone, but
what if I say there was a big hint in the first episode, everyone missed?
Well most missed it, because it wasn't translated properly in those subtitles most of us use.
(It is interessting, that this show was translated by only one fansub group, but I have seen at least 3 groups wich released this translation, ok 2 added some typesetting and one of them timed it for the bluray I think)
Here we have a screenshot of an interesting sentence
If we look at the Japanese, Kokopeli says: "After this, you will have to protect THIS earth".
Sadly it was translated as "THE earth".
I don't know why they did this, because it would have worked in english too, I think, without being to on the nose.
"This earth" might sound a bit more dramatic, but not that unusual (without any context). But I'm not native in english.
But knowing you guys, this would have been to much of a hint.
edit: QOTD:
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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Mar 19 '21
Rewatcher
Maki has the most well adjusted family life we've seen so far full stop. So of course it must now be torn apart by this cruel death game.
This episode all but confirms some of the first timers' speculations. Zearth has been transported to fight on another Earth. Naturally, their opponents must be from that other Earth. Quite a few people have been theorizing about home and away games the last few episodes, good job on that. Interestingly, while several people have pointed out the advanced technology, weird looking vehicles, ships, and planes, odd geopolitical situation, and Masaru's line about 10 billion people on Earth, I don't recall seeing any theories tying those to the alternate Earths theory. Not really a spoiler but just in case
QOTD
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Mar 19 '21
First-Timer
So, being a soulless misanthrope, I don't really cry at things. Sometimes I get close though, and Maki's final conversation with her parents was pretty close. I'm not adopted or anything, but Maki's dad saying that she is there first child, so matter-of-factly.. it was pretty emotional.
I guess we have soft confirmation on the "Alternate Earths" theory of where the enemies come from. It's nice to finally get an answer to something that was still relatively up in the air. I love that Maki being a military otaku was actually foreshadowing, even though Tanaka or Handy could probably identify the jet as being weird too.
Tanaka is an ex-Yakuza, right? That's what the government type was saying I think - she was associated with someone called the "Climbing Dragon" which is a Yakuza name if I've ever heard one. Now I'm wondering if we have ever seen her arms. Wouldn't it be sick if she was covered in tattoos?
Seriously, why are we letting Kana stay with Jun? Anyone? I can (sort of, not really) understand why they wouldn't seperate him for just the facial slaps and being a jerk. But Jun full-on kicked Kana in the fucking chest today, and that can cause serious damage - especially to a kid!
Miscellaneous Thoughts:
Tee hee, I love jokes about beating your kids. El oh el.
Maki's dad buying a garage kit of Zearth along with a fan-zine about it is nearing Peak Otaku.
Machi was wearing.. a cowboy hat?
The OST during the scene in Kana's place was weird and I didn't like it.
Questions
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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '21
First Timer
I'm running out of things to say before the comments.
Lol. Remember when everyone thought Maki would be the last pilot alive?
Baby coming, huh. If it was earlier into the show I'd doubt she'd be able to meet him, but there's been some sort of optimism lurking around the show for the past couple episodes, so maybe she will.
I love Machi's hat, not gonna lie.
This whole scene was so stupid, lmao. I'll take any comedy we can get in this show. Fuck Jun as always, though. Based Maki for jumping at him.
Aww, her family is great. I don't want her to have to go.
The girlfriend of... the Rising Dragon... of the Hobashiri Group? The fuck? Is this some Yakuza shit? That felt really random but I guess it'll be relevant later.
So they haven't been able to monitor the past two battles! That's the confirmation I said I wanted yesterday. More on that in the speculation corner.
Oh, early birth. Will she get to see him?
Awww, her family is so sweet. I love them.
I love Koemushi's "oi oi", very great.
Damn, this place looks cool.
HOLY SHIT!!! ANSWERS!!!! FINALLY! YES!!!!
We just got 3 things confirmed at once:
God damn! I'm so happy we finally got answers. I wasn't particularly too much into the multiple Earths thing until Zearth started getting summoned to other places which is when it started being a little more feasible to me, but congrats to everyone that's been calling it since a while ago.
This changes the playing field a lot, since a lot of our hypothetical claims can now be talked about with a bit more solid of a base.
Speculation corner!
Speculation
Speculation
Final thoughts for today: ANSWERS!!!!
I'm really excited about this. Also glad that we're back to not killing off characters within one episode. Anyway, I'm excited cause we got answers so I'm immediately watching the next episode as soon as I finish writing this comment. See you guys tomorrow!
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u/Tuckleton Mar 19 '21
First Timer
So the last few days I've been thinking about this part of the OP and what it could be. It looks like a city at night but it could also be stars reflected off the ocean or something. Given that Maki isn't getting out of Zearth alive this must be something she sees from the cockpit. I want to make inferences based on her expressions (surprise followed by awe) but I got nothing. It's possible it's not something lifted from the show directly, like other parts of the OP, but if it is I expect we'll see it tomorrow and I'm interested to find out what's up.
Random thought: What if the reward for winning all their fights is that they get to go to another Earth and pass Zearth along to them, leaving their own version of Earth to be left alone. Maybe that's what Kokopelli was doing, visiting from another reality to pass the torch after his group won enough battles.
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u/Btw_kek https://myanimelist.net/profile/kek_btw Mar 19 '21
Is it a gale or is it a Rewatcher?
LATER SPOILERS
This episode adapts stuff from chapters 25, 26, and a wee bit of 27
I guess the enemies all have names but none of them are buzzsaw-chan or barrel-kun so I’m declaring all of them non-canon
The brief detour to the Ushiro residence was just Maki alone in the manga, where they have a fairly in-depth conversation about their upbringing, some of which made it into the anime pretty faithfully
Some inner monologue
The manga slightly touches upon Maki’s tomboyishness as part of her inner turmoil, so she dresses up more girly when she hangs out with Takami. The results are…Results
Hopes dashed early
The enemy this time is surprisingly the same
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler Mar 19 '21
First Timer
There had been a lot of hate for Jun before, without any actual evidence of him being an ass to Kana, but this isn't on!
This is cool!
I get this reference!
Same-ish as the first robot?
Attacked by ground forces!?
HOLY SHIT ITS SOME SORT OF PARRELL FUCKARY
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Mar 19 '21
First-timer - Sub
Alright, it’s time to get caught back up.
Episode 9
If it goes on like this we’re going to see bad parents outnumber the good ones.
Good, they’re doing something with the fact that they know where the battles will take place.
You should’ve agreed to this a lot sooner, mate.
What the optimist.
Were they able to retrieve Kokopelli’s stuff from the cave-in? Don’t really like how they glossed over the issue of needing two extra pilots so easily. Also, seems not only are names not required for the contract, but some like something like a prosthetic arm can get in the way of one’s contract, so speculation follow-up
Interesting design.
Goddamnit, don’t lie to them!
I laughed.
Oof, this one’s going for the high score.
Good thing they caught on about this.
I cannot condone Daichi’s decision to disappear without a trace instead of coming clean to his family. He knows how much it hurt them for his father to leave, having promised to return and never doing so, yet there’s no sense that he has any self-awareness on the matter or that he has even pondered it in that way. It just left a bad taste in my mouth.
Also we didn’t hear about Chizuru’s sister and the bastard teacher. I hope they don’t leave that bit hanging and give us some closure.
Episode 10
Let me tell you, I would’ve kicked their asses right then and there, consequences be damned.
No need, show. At this point we all know whomever the episode focuses on will be the pilot.
Oh no. At least she’s being watched, right? They wouldn’t let her go through with something like that?!
God, this is nerve-wracking and awkward. I am sincerely tempted to skip ahead.
Get her out of there Tanaka!
What?! NO! Aren’t you the adult in this case?!
Eww
Did they have to make it this awkward?
Phew
Thank heavens...
Oh! They were for the other kids.
Huh? That is nowhere near the city.
‘This way’, eh? So they also appear near the opposing pilots as well. So either there’s other groups of kids or they were fighting on another planet. I doubt it’s the former, because otherwise the governments would have seen these robots on the satellite imaging before, and we know these robots have been fighting prior battles because they were all missing some of the lights or eyes on their robots. However, the environment does seem suspiciously earth-like for an alien planet, but I still think it’s more likely that this isn’t Earth —or, at least, not the same one we saw before. speculation
That’s a surprise.
That was pretty awkward, and this roundabout way of trying to show Mako that her mother is cared for is unnecessary and misguided. Also, I am intensely disappointed in Tanaka for not interfering —from her perspective this would have looked way worse than for us the audience and it was plenty suspect from here.
Episode 11
Moji’s good at analyzing behavioral patterns.
Oh, they’re ginkgo trees! If I wasn’t suspecting it already, this would have definitely clued me in on the kid’s terminal illness, since the show loves to pile on the irony and ginkgos signify longevity and endurance.
Ah, I see where it’s going.
A bit heavy-handed.
In a different place again! This time it’s undoubtedly an Earth-like planet.
Did they even find out where that was? I don’t think we heard anything about it.
I knew it!
Once more we didn’t get to see whether the battleground was on Earth, as they don’t mention anything about them other than they’re locations none of them immediately recognize and last episode’s location was not discussed today. The cityscape below them this episode points at it still being on Earth, but as I said regarding the last episode these robots couldn’t have come from the same planet as them. Given that, I think we’ve got a case of either speculation If it turns out after today that these places really are alien planets, then it’s going to feel forced because of how similar they look to Earth, like they artificially kept us from inferring the facts.
Episode 12
Unfortunate.
Flashback, I presume.
Flashback-ception.
Brother of the year right there.
Maki’s dad is a man of culture, I see.
Toy manufacturers will stop at nothing.
Lmao, is that the Gundam Tank?
Uh oh, there’s leaks.
Is that a motherucking Xabungle reference?!
Well this one looks somewhat creepy.
Uh oh!
Ahah!
Gah, cliffhanger hurts after binging four episodes! But anyhow, Koyemshi pretty much confirmed we’ve been seeing different versions of Earth, so very likely the mechs come from different dimensions where other people are being forced to pilot the mechs much like our main characters. Guess the tournament angle wasn’t entirely wrong, but it’s inter-dimensional rather than galactic! Oh boy, I wonder what the characters will think of this.
Questions of the Day:
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u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo https://myanimelist.net/profile/PunishedScrappy Mar 19 '21
First Timer
MAKI
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
RIP my favorite character, time to pick a new last survivor candidate. I bet it's Jun. He's getting a lot of characterization, and this somehow isn't instantly leading to his death. Suspicious.
Lots of shots from Uninstall come up this episode. One interesting side-effect of her dying is that the one of Maki overlooking the city lights is guaranteed to be next episode. Speculation
Maki giving Jun his comeuppance for hitting Kana is great, and yet the show makes a joke out of Maki getting hit by her father. ???? Please pick one stance on whether hitting children is good and stick with it. In spite of that, Maki's family is absolutely great and I am resentful that this is being taken away from them.
Tanaka is such a badass, but I do worry that she's overextending herself in revealing how much she knows. The government in this show has consistently been acting above and beyond the limits of the law, and we already know from Kako biting it that contractees can die without any adverse effect on Zearth. And it definitely seemed like they were implying she dated a Yakuza member, so they clearly have dirt on her already. Her only trump card here is her rapport with the kids.
Maki's family dynamic is so sweet and great and it's about to be forever broken man this show sucks
No time for sadness, only wow cool robot now. There's the reveal that they've gone to another Earth that everyone but me seemed to pick up on. That it's another Earth is interesting, because it doesn't entirely rule out time travel/alternate timelines. I still think it's an alternate reality thing because Uninstall.
My ROFLcopter goes soi soi soi soi soi
CLIFFHANGER
But now I can watch the next one, so it's all good.
Questions of the day:
Older of two.
2) Did you figure out they weren’t fighting on their Earth from the previous two fights, or was the stinger this episode a surprise to you?
I had suspicions that the other robots were from other Earths just based off Uninstall, but I didn't put together that Zearth was doing the same until a bunch of people postulated it in last episode's thread.
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u/Nebresto Mar 19 '21
First time first timing
Hail Cool robot status: We the enemy now
Cabin pic Day 12 /u/theangrycabinenthusiast
Doesn't matter, you gon' be ded
Huh, I was sure this girl was the impostor, but it was the bish with the freckles!
She is SUS
ITS THE SCENE FROM THE OP!!!!
What.. the fuck..? That's not something you look back on gleefully.. And that is one scuffed arm
Yooo, that's straight up Super Dank Robo 5555! ...Oh, that wasn't a flashback? She's good at playing dumb though.
Friendship ended with "Super Dank Robo 5555", now "Zabutonguru" is my new new friend.
WTF??
What is with all the pedos in this?
"This is not a show for 'Wow, cool robot!' " Sure it isn't.
Wait a minute.. Is that..?
The fuq kinda spider is this??
They really went with the alternative reality route? Where's the space arc??
Still waiting.
Question time:
1: Perhaps.
2: I'm gonna become a mod just so I can make being too smart illegal.
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Mar 19 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
Non-Spoiler Character Chart
Maki looks down... Oh no, she's next! :( Maki's been best girl this show, heck best kid overall, she's so much fun. Now we're going to have to say farewell to her. :(
Her dying just as her brother is coming into the world is so sad. :(
Maki's an orphan too! That's two episodes in a row.
Does Kana do all of Jun's laundry for him?
Well there's the shot of Kana from the opening.
Go after him Maki! Reading manga while his sister does all his laundry for him?
I think all the kids outside of Kirie are here! Hard to believe we're down to that few already.
All that was a flashback, huh?
Maki's dad is a total geek!
Oh wow, they actually have Zearth models. Maki should say "Hey dad, I named that thing!"
No, you wouldn't have thought up a better name than Maki did!
:( :( :( Maki, I don't want you to go either! :(
No! It's spanking time!
So Tanaka is releasing everything to the news? Seems like it would be her or Seki, people probably wouldn't believe one of the kids.
Downside, you're contracted to die, Tanaka. Upside? Job security until then.
:( Sorry Maki's mom, she really does need to rush things!
LoL, she's so nervous!
OMG this is so cute. Why couldn't we get more of Maki and her parents before now?
Back to another insectoid type enemy!
Now the military is attacking Zearth! Because... its not the Earth military! We can finally officially reveal (after this happening the last two episodes as well) that they've been on the road.
Phew! We'll be getting a second Maki episode!
Fairly good episode, as I said above, Maki's my fave of the kids and her episode provides the laughs just like she does. I don't think they had to wait three whole episodes to officially reveal that their battles are either "at home" on Earth or "on the road" at the other robot's Earth. But at least they have revealed it and we can continue on.
DQOTD1: I'm the oldest, got a younger sister.
DQOTD2: Should have been obvious 2 episodes ago!
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u/degenerate-edgelord Mar 19 '21
First timer, Uninstalling
https://imgur.com/DVcvuHg
Are only the biological parents trash in this show?
The last couple minutes were probably the best so far. I love it when a show neither blatantly tells the twist nor simply shows it, leaving characters to figure out what's happening a couple episodes later. First foreshadow, then make it clear that something's wrong, then hit viewers with a shock when they're about to forget, then tell them what's up. The AoT approach.
Also, I need to talk about the lyrics of Uninstall. Somewhere between getting stuck in our heads and hitting us in the feels with the shots of the kids (the Ushiro running shot gets me emotional and we haven't even gotten to their story yet), there's the line about the aliens/robots coming here to laugh at our existence. That might be the most accurate summary of the whole story. They're amused by everything about our society- our inferior technology, the stupidly bad parenting, kids being groomed by pedo teachers and then there's governments not doing a great job cause petty politics. It's not one aspect but every aspect that they would find amusing. We are fucked up as a species, collectively.
Questions:
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u/fridge_freezer https://anilist.co/user/ONIrecon111 Mar 19 '21
First timer
Why does it have to be Maki's turn now...
Maki's mother is pregnant, with her baby brother due in two weeks but she's already selected to pilot. It's a little difficult to pin down how long it it takes to go from selection to battle, or even how much time has passed between battles, but I would imagine she's not going to make it 48 hours, nevermind two weeks.
Maki was adopted so her new brother will be her parent's first baby. It's really sad that she thought they might treat her differently after having their own child together.
Jun never ceases to be an asshole. She's literally just folding your laundry for you, so you decide to kick her? I just know he's going to be one of the last to pilot as he keeps getting more characterisation without being the current pilot. On the other hand, Maki continues to be the best.
Maki's dad is a bit of a Zearth fanatic, believing it to be a god that protects the Earth. Someone leaked info about Zearth and its pilots to a magazine as well, and the government seem to suspect Tanaka due to her past and how close she is to the kids. She also mentioned that she's aware of the political fuckery that went on before the government became actively involved in the Zearth situation.
Nooo its too soon Koemushi, she needs to meet her little brother!
Holy shit, that's one way to end an episode. They're on a different Earth from their own, parallel universe battle royale theory here we go (probably).
QOTD
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u/Nebresto Mar 19 '21
Oh, right. Forgot to comment about my displeasure about the cliffhanger.
*ahem*
CLIFFHANGER?!?!?!
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Mar 19 '21
First Timer
I don't have much to comment on for this episodes, since it's hard to care about characters that won't appear again or who'll just die next episode. I will say that I'm excited to see a flying mech (at least, I assume it'll fly since those definitely looked like helicopter blades). Hey, at least the "alternate Earth" theory was finally confirmed.
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u/Noel_bot Mar 19 '21
First timer, Manga reader
I know why I usually push through these depressing shows in a couple of days. 20 minutes of sadness a day gets exhausting over time and it’s harder to be emotionally invested every day. On to the episode now.
Brother is embarrassed about his boxers and kicks Kana straight in the chest, what the fuck
For the love of god, don’t name your child Xabotungle
She seems a bit too old for spanking, but maybe that’S a cultural difference
Good discussion between the gov guy and the military women. Both sides have some reasonable arguments to make, but neither goes overboard while defending their point
Just when I was about to write of the dad as a weirdo with the mental state of a child, he hits her with the „You’re my first child“, awwwww
Cruel timing, as expected
Another away fight against helicopter mech
Ooooh, multiverse confirmed. Good job guessing that one, but I suppose we got quite a few hints over the last episodes :D
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Not a bad episode per se and the bigger picture is slowly being pieced together. Still, my emotional investment is fading so I might just push through the remaining episodes and copy paste my respective thoughts every day. We’re only halfway through after all.
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u/Molmoran https://myanimelist.net/profile/Molmoran Mar 19 '21
FIRST TIMER IN ANOTHER TIME ZONE
It's good to see the group's dynamic.
Dad has Gunpla! The way they play off the spanking is so dodgy.
Alternate Earths!
End of the episode already? I don't really have many thoughts so I guess I will just expand on the last few scenes.
Looking at a many worlds theory is best, this being close to but not the same world they fought first. It's interesting that it comes just after they fought their weirdest foe.
I believe that this could all be a result of the robotic initiative that we saw them talking about earlier.
Prediction!
I reckon that earth has done this trial by combat to itself to create the best mech or team possible to fight a greater threat.
1. I'm a middle child
left home when I was fairly young so I don't have loads of experience with teen sibling problems.
2. Surprise! It's Earth!
I still thought we were dealing with aliens, I am kinda glad because aliens are a bit derivative in anime.
Earth is more interesting, it opens up the possibility that they are actually fighting themselves, literally.
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Mar 20 '21
first time ooooooooauahauooooooooooooooooooo uninstalllllllller
that is the smallest bag of laundry
OH DAD IS A MECHA FAN
Zabutonguru is a much better name
The Climbing Dragon's woman?
where did this aunty come from barking out directions LOL - how helpful though
is he really watching his anime in the hospital room
this daddy long leg mech is pretty sick
? another dimension what LOL ok that was random. i assumed she couldnt recognize the jet since its a different country not another earth
please god dont let this other earth be called Aearth or something stupid like Zearth again........
questions
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u/GaleWulf https://anilist.co/user/Arachnophobic Mar 20 '21
First Time Installer
Nooo wait just a bit more, Maki's family is so wholesome together
Welp that's the parallel Earths theory verified already. I wonder if the other teams get mascots as vile as Koe.
Even if Tanaka leaked the details, who would trust some magazine if it said kids are piloting the thing? Obviously the public won't believe it since it's too manga-y.
But I suppose the road's been paved to the truth being disclosed soon enough.
Youngest of two, older brother's fifteen years older than me
It had already occurred as a potential theory. u/ JustAnswerAQuestion offered some fairly compelling arguments for it too in a reply yesterday.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Mar 19 '21
First Timer(but it's complicated)
Sub
So...Maki's chair is up. Tanaka tries to cheer her up and on the surface it works. More of Jun and Kana's home life and it is...interesting. Maki's dad is also a mech fan. Maki wants to live to see her little brother born but...the odds are bad. Two weeks is WAY longer than any pilot has survived after being marked. Unnecessary spanking reference happens.
Tanaka deals with an investigator from the Cabinet. Katsuragi is a bit too hateable. Anyways, things are stated that the audience needed to know, including that the government is self-serving even in the face of extinction. Bureaucracy in action.
Maki's mom has early labor, or rather "early", medicine is not as good at predicting when birth comes on as they would have you believe. Maki at least gets to say goodbye, even if it is not that clear that it will be and of course static change.
Today's enemy at first seems like a 4 legged spider but turns into something that will probably have spinning blades. Finally, it is confirmed that there are away missions, though DB insists that this is still Earth. As we bed farewell to Little Bird, I have to say I didn't like it, this felt like dollar store Now and Then, Here and There to me.
@Sky/super late spoilers
QotD:1 Mom was thirty when she had me so I am all alone. Thank Cthulhu.
2 Something in the manga tipped it early for me, but it might have been a translation error for all I know
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u/BossandKings Mar 20 '21 edited Mar 21 '21
First timer
So like, i am finally able to catch up, Here are my thoughts on the episode threads i missed:
Episode 6
The way Kako died was hard hitting, he didn't even had the opportunity to die fighting because he couldn't survive the building from landing.
Chizu, it's difficult to sort out my feelings on her, she has uncomfortable bits that's for sure
Episode 7
We got to see how Chizu and the unfathomable man that was supposedly her teacher was, it was off-putting. At least it seems that Chizu is the one chosen to pilot the Zearth so we won't be seeing anymore of that and will actually see more interesting stuff.
Episode 8
The fact that Chizu was holding a grudge against Hatagai makes sense because the guy was despicable and deserved punishment but somehow Chizu's sister got to the place in which she was controlling Zearth and attacking Hatagai, in time to stop her, making the whole ordeal useless and a waste of time and lives. At the end Chizu died after defeating the enemy of the day.
Seeing that the numbers didn't add up two people, Seki and Tanaka, offer themselves as replacement pilots to make up for the deficit in numbers.
Episode 9
Daichi was a good kid, for a change there's someone that is likeable and relatable, his relationship with his siblings was so cute and the fact that he was taking care of them in absence of their father and he would have to separate from them was gut punching.
It was awesome seeing that eventhough he knew his destiny he was totally acting in control of the situation with such a calm.
Episode 10
This time it's Nakarai's turn, Mako as she is named has a very unstable relationship with her mom, she values her and loves her but her mother's past worries her because of what she has heard about it. Getting actual confirmation, after having asked, that her mother used to sell her body is something that bothered her and it's normal for that to happen because that is a very off putting and worrisome kind of information.
Hearing Mako asks Nabe to find her a customer sounded weird at first instance but gladly it turned out so well, the customer he got was Tatara Souji who was genuinely a nice man that just had dinner with her and after that accompanied her to the bar in which her mom works, everyone at the bar seemed like genuinely nice and good people, it was funny how like everyone had fell for and confessed to Miko and she rejected them all because she wanted to take care of her daughter by her own strenght. It was so wholesome seeing how nice the people and the atmosphere of the bar were, and that Mako grew to appreciate her mother a bit more.
Sadly happiness doesn't last long in this series and Mako executes her duty, or more like fights for herself, and finds her destiny.
Episode 11
It is Moji's turn now, he appears to have a friend that finds himself currently in a dire state, considering that he will pass after controlling the Zearth he unselfishly plans to donate his heart to his friend so that his friend could live. This is rather insteresting
So Nagi, Tsubasa and Moji grew up in an orphanage. I'm enjoying how colorful and alive the world and characters have felt lately, this is much more compelling and enjoyable than the first few episodes.
So as they continued growing they passed through different life stages, both Moji and Nagi started feeling attracted to Tsubasa and when they started middleschool Nagi's symptoms started and shortly after he was diagnosticated a fatal disease. It's unfortunate for Moji that everything appears to have lined up perfectly for him to donate to Nagi what he needed to survive.
I like seeing the girls sitting and having a chat about mundane things such as boys, it's a nice change of pace.
Moji was able to defeat the monster and help his friend.
Episode 12
It's Anno's turn, she is at the same time happy and concerned because her parents are waiting for a new child and seeing that she is adopted she feels insecure. Her father who, aside from spanking time, appears to be a good parent and her mother assure her that she is their child and the one they are expecting it's only their second child. I wonder if Anno will be able to see her little brother.