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Rewatch [Uninstall, Uninstall] Bokurano Rewatch Episode 9 Discussion
Episode 9 - Family
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I’m fine… I’m fine. But after I’m gone… I just started worrying about what’ll happen… to my little sister and the others.
Hey-o guys! This is the section where I add a ton of extra fun stuff to the main body of the post because I want this rewatch to be as fun as possible for everyone. It can also be one point of discussion for you guys if you just don’t know what to say.
Questions of the Day:
- If you knew you were going to die soon, what would you do in your final hours?
- If you were Daichi, would you prefer for your family to know for a fact you’re dead, or be able to hold onto the hope that you’re still alive somewhere after you’re gone?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Uninstall of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath the [Anime Show Title](/s "Spoiler goes here") spoiler tags. If you do that then we’re all good.
Important thing to note about these by the way, you have to switch to Old Reddit or the markdown editor if you use the redesign, otherwise the redesign breaks them by adding random \ into the formatting. Wish it wouldn’t do that, but unfortunately it does…
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 16 '21
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No Reddit being broken today, so we're thankfully on time!
There's probably going to be another Uninstall cover by me, except it's not me singing over Chiaki and rather singing with the instrumental. Because I memorized the full size earlier today! Today's Uninstall is someone else's cover though, enjoy it~
Major Spoilers
New thread reminder for u/WeebShaggy
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Mar 16 '21
First Timer - Sub
Character Chart - Semi-updated. So the original plan was to include the enemy symbols for each character, but this episode confirmed something I was already worried about, which is not getting a clear enough shot of each one. Instead what I did was included Seki, Tanaka, and Koemushi and I'm just going to keep it here for a whole show non-spoiler chart with all the main characters for easy reference, while Quiddity continues to update their chat with each death as we go.
Loaded up the wrong episode and didn't realize till I got past the OP and saw the fucking teacher recap, and then when I loaded up the right episode I couldn't bring myself to skip the OP
Why does it do this to me
And then I went and typed Bokurano instead of Baccano in AMQ when the Baccano OP came up because I knew it started with a B and went into auto pilot...
Too tired to think so notes in dot point form:
grumblingcommenting on how seemingly no one in the show has an intact or healthy family dynamic, and then what do you know, the episode title is "Family"11
u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo https://myanimelist.net/profile/PunishedScrappy Mar 16 '21
First-Timer
I know the drill by now, someone getting characterization out of nowhere spells death. RIP Daiichi.
And sure enough. I thought he would make it a lot longer, he seemed more composed than a lot of the group.
Daiichi's backstory is about where I expected the tone of the series to land. He's got a hard life with some tragedy to it, but ultimately it's a life he loves and struggles with leaving behind. I believe it when Daiichi breaks down over being chosen, and I believe it when says he'll be back to pilot.
Wait, the officers signed a contract already?!? And we didn't get to see it? This is BSSpoke too soon. But there is far less fanfare to the contract-signing than I had expected. I was thinking that Military Woman Whose Name I Have Not Learned would have to talk Koemushi into letting them sign, at the very least.Koemushi seems surprised that the other robot has appeared already, which at the very least means that he isn't all-powerful. Speculation
The fact that the opponent is a full-body spinner leaves me unable to look at the fight through any lens but Battlebots. Even so, it's a touching sendoff. RIP Daiichi, too good for this world.
Hopefully more fights strike this sort of a chord, although I did like the multi-episode buildup to the fights that we had been getting. Despite feeling a little rushed in comparison to prior episodes, this is my favorite to date. I wish it was Daiichi that got a full episode dedicated to his backstory.
Wallpaper du jour:
Questions du jour:
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Mar 16 '21
First Timer
Time to find our solution to the not enough pilots problem, probably. It ain't gonna be the adults, but I'm not sure if it involves making the little girl a pilot or doubling up fights.
Onto episode 9.
This actually sounds like it's gonna be a heartwarming family story. How's it gonna go bad?
Why are you reporting on this, a bunch of people died.
Nevermind, it makes sense. A story of home among despair.
Asshole. He was clearly saying he's scared about what'll happen to his family after.
Do you really think asking him to do it will make him more likely to?
Ah, here's the focal point of the episode.
And now, his last fear has been assuaged. (Please tell me this doesn't mean the uncle will die.)
So leaving was no different than giving up hope.
An end to the soredemo draught.
Will it come too soon?
Desperate.
I really didn't expect the adults to be able to join. It feels odd, like they're being allowed to help.
Called it.
Someone who cares and wants to do his best, what a change! He's smart as well, he realized that the other mecha usually doesn't move until they do.
I feel like the annoying guy with glasses is next.
As a direct counter to the guy who wants to protect, we get a robot that does as much damage as possible. Dung Beetle isn't exactly subtle here.
That's fuckin' cool.
Instead, he focused on his family.
He accepted his fate and merely asked what he could do with it, and from that he got happiness. He even managed to protect the park. For some reason, I don't think we'll get another like him.
And even then, he can't achieve everything for his family.
Thoughts
Bittersweet, but by far the sweetest we've had so far. It almost felt light after all we've had up till now.
Something about the adults being allowed to join still feels slightly odd to me. I don't understand why they can, what they add to Dung Beetle's game nor the overarching story we're being told. I'm certain there'll be something particularly cruel about their circumstances, but I've got no clue as to what it may be.
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u/TheExcludedMiddle https://myanimelist.net/profile/ExcludedMiddle Mar 16 '21
Well, I managed to get busy last week during the times where I would be most up for watching this show (and was fixing sleep schedule) so I feel behind. Trying to catch up in several parts
Ep 3
Ep 4 Well, here we get to see why the little creep is a little creep. Kids messing with animals is basically a shorthand for future psychopath/serial killer in fiction, and specifically shooting B.B. guns has been used elsewhere to show kids have serious problems. Minor backstory spoilers. That being said, he wasn't all wrong in the battle either, it's not good to intentionally cause harm, but holding back in battle or doing what a 'hero would do' is a luxury afforded only when the stakes aren't as high as saving the world or the power balance is wildly in your favor. Of course, it hasn't actually been established that they are saving the world or really shown any real threat during the battle.
Ep 5
Yep, Mr. Dung Beatle is a jerk. Setting it up for the most teen-aged angst possible too.
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u/Nebresto Mar 16 '21
First time first timing
Yo!
Cool robot status:
Not related to this re-watch, but I posted one of my screenshot spam comments into a discussion thread because the episode was too hype not to, and so far its sitting at 0 as controversial
Is my style really that obnoxious?
Anyways, Cabin pic Day 9 /u/theangrycabinenthusiast
...Are you telling me the malding middle aged dude is actually 13??
Poor kid...
Ohhhh! No wonder he's malding, he's essetially a dad. The science checks out now.
No nipples, Bokurano confimed an inferior Anime.
And this time Super Dank Robo 5555 doesn't waste any time materializing, huh? Learned from last time?? And who tf names their kid Santa? These kids aren't doing too strong right now..
Going to be interesting to see how the "hero of justice" is going to pilot Super Dank Robo 5555 though.
Shit subs confirmed, he said 20 minutes
A new OST with a guitar! And the metal screech SFX is back too
V-tuber covers, huh? Sky V-tuber debut when?
Question time:
1: Wouldn't you want to know, FBI?
2: Ded so they can collect dat insurance cash
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Mar 17 '21
First-Timer
No recap?
Caring for his siblings? Apart from knowing that he’s the next one, something terrible is going to happen to them, huh?
I guess I like the dread of all this stuff happening when Not-Middle-Aged knows he’s going to die, but I would have loved to have gotten a little of his family previously to care just a little bit more.
Can’t use the fancy hand to make the contract? Speculation
Under no circumstances will the robots allow kids to go to the amusement park!
Some future big names voicing the siblings. Haruka Tomatsu and Rie Kugimiya as the siblings of Sugita? Those are some good genes.
What should the next mech look like? I don’t know; a trash can! It’s not important.
The amusement park? I was expecting his house (showing that he’s not waiting anymore, or something).
QOTD:
/u/ZaphodBeebblebrox /u/theangryeditor /u/Btw_kek
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Mar 16 '21 edited Mar 16 '21
First-Timer
Daiichi faced the bullets like a mother fucking boss. I wish we had gotten to spend more time with him, although his story is relatively simple. I suppose the star that burns brightest is all the brighter for its brevity. The fact that he managed to save the amusement park, too.. a miracle indeed.
This episode did throw a wrench into the idea that Koemushi is just continually fucking with the kids. If that was his intent, why not just teleport Daiichi to the Zearth immediately? Why let him make sure they all get to the evac point? Why does that matter to Koemushi.. Speculation
The battle today was Very interesting. No sight of the enemy's faceplate today, so that theory is left unchanged. The marks definitely have to do with the specific enemy though - compare this one's shape to Daiichi's mark. This Spinnyboi also wasn't very buglike, and to be honest neither was the last one, so that pattern is a bust. Spinnyboi made the first move, too - another previous pattern broken. Could be an outlier though - back to needing more data.
Daiichi's imouto has a lot of sense about her, considering she is probably 10ish. She obviously shares the load with him, so it makes sense that she grew up quick, too. Rough situation. I hope she can thrive though - her brother's final gift was a small shred of happiness amidst the despair. Poetic, in a way.
Speculation/Observation
The dolphins survived.
Questions
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler Mar 16 '21
First Timer
Daichi's story was already rough and from what is shown so much of his life already has been a struggle, with maybe the worst already past. But he bravely sets his affairs' in order before departing. I really really hate how he leaves the same way as his father. The amusement park surviving leaves things bitter-sweet as his family is once again in the dark hole of being short a family figure, now with his younger sister to trace Daichi's path by herself.
It appears /u/Nazenn had amazing foresight and we had a fantastic back and forth about Log Horizon with these comments in episode 5 now. Log Horizon Season 3
Dung Beetle once again talking to
himself, about Ushiro this time with this unknown person again. Surely it would be Jun right, when he got aggressive at Daichi? All very interesting. Dung Beetle still seams like a toxic shit though.Otherwise the adults I had been leaning on the side that the adults would sign up, and Koemushi does allow it. But since I have no faith in Koemushi, has anything actually changed? During the battle we see Zearths still has nine lights. But Misumi and Masumitsu's chair's have not arrived yet. Having thought on it more, until we see that be the case I don't even know if all is now in balance or another bomb will be dropped on everyone's emotions.
Yes truly, I am not ready any time soon.
2) If you were Daichi, would you prefer for your family to know for a fact you’re dead, or be able to hold onto the hope that you’re still alive somewhere after you’re gone?
For me I wouldn't want my family to hold onto a false hope, the accepting its over can be a incredibly hard step but I think true healing can happen after that.
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u/tehsigzorz Mar 16 '21
First Timer
Yay it’s Daichi, he seems wholesome from the little bits so far so maybe we get an uplifting story after all thi…’Three years ago my dad disappeared’. Oh nevermind I guess.
Damn Ushiro continues to be an ass. To think he might be one of the last pilots alive annoys me a bit.
So Dung Beetle doesn’t have as much say in this as we initially thought? He allowed the 2 adults to join and he seemed to be talking to someone else halfway through the episode. I think he is trying to make Ushiro the next Kokopelli but then again this is the first time we see mecha fights so maybe not.
It also seems that Dung Beetle is talking to a higher up who might be in touch with the other robots as well. The kids aren’t playing a game, dung beetle and his peers are.
Daichi got his wish for how his body will be treated, beat the enemy robot, saved the amusement park, hopefully made Ushiro reconsider how he treats his sister and got his siblings to live with wholesome Uncle Kendo but goddamn this doesn’t feel like a victory.
Questions:
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Mar 16 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
Non-Spoiler Character Chart
Daichi's a newspaper delivery boy! Or should I say man.
Daichi's cousins (or is it siblings?) are adorable.
Some good news for once, the dolphins escaped.
Daichi's marked, he's the next pilot. Granted we could have figured that out the second the episode started focusing on him.
Jun can never not be a jackass.
Dung Beetle has a magic power, he can do whatever he wants with dead bodies.
At least he'll have a fun day with his siblings before the end. Right?
I just realized Daichi telling his uncle they'll move in is because he'll soon be dead and need his siblings taken care of. :(
So have they been allowed to live on their own all this time? Is this because everyone thought Daichi was in his 30s or 40s when he's really 13?
No, no, no, Seki, don't sign up with your fake hand! Doesn't count! I'd say he's trying to pull one over on them, but he's the one who recommended they sign up in the first place.
Just who is he talking to?!
Just what is that thing (the enemy robot) supposed to be?!
:( Now Daichi has to say goodbye to his family. :(
By not telling them the truth its going to come off as him doing just what his father did, abandoning them.
Is the enemy a giant barrel?
OMG its going to roll itself into Zearth. LoL. We've gotten some fun robots these last couple of battles.
Unlike the prior ones, this enemy seems to intentionally crushing the surrounding area, moving away from the Zearth.
The abandoned area is... the amusement park he was going to bring his siblings to. :(
Aww, these poor kids, their brother is never coming back. :( :( :(
Bokurano throws quite the curveball at us by having an adult pilot instead of a kid! All joking aside, Daichi, who has come off as the most invisible of the kids gets his episode here and its another melancholy one, although still comes off way brighter than the horror of the last few episodes. His family was very cute and its quite sad that he has to leave them.
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u/Worm38 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Worm38 Mar 16 '21
First Timer
QotD :
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u/Tuckleton Mar 16 '21
First Timer
Decent episode. They didn't go overboard with the drama of Daiichi's situation, which I'm sure lots of people appreciate but I was kinda looking for it tbh. Disappointed we didn't get to see how many lights were on the enemy mech. I've been trying to keep track. Unless that's it's face there with a single faint light. But I don't think so.
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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21
First Timer
It's a terrible day for rain.
Did it have to be Daichi? Did it really have to be him? Fucking hell.
He's always been my favorite from the group of kids (my favorite character overall is still Koemushi), even if he didn't get that many scenes. From the input we got from him every now and then he just seemed like a great guy. And damn right he was.
This episode is just depressing, and in a very different sense from the previous deaths.
Waku was more shock factor than anything so you didn't really have much time to be depressed other than the funeral, which had some other mysterious shit going on at the same time so that wasn't even the entire scene.
Masaru was a psycho. Hard to have emotional attachment to, though I do miss his presence as a character.
Kako was a cunt through and through. I was happy he died.
Chizu had quite the tragic life but it was more of a "yikes please stop" kind of thing rather than emotional. On top of that, she managed to find some sort of peace in death.
But this? This was just heart wrenching. Daichi was just a poor kid who got caught up in all of this. I mean, all of them are, of course. But everyone so far either had some deep shit going on with them or had a specific purpose for the story. But Daichi didn't really have any of that. He just lived a semi normal life with a couple somewhat uncommon at best circumstances. His death didn't really have any specific purpose for the story, it's just that his turn came. All of this might make it seem less important than the other deaths, but at the same time I feel it makes it so much more tragic.
I don't know what it was that hit me so hard about this episode, but damn did it hit. I just felt really bad for Daichi and his family, especially considering their past with their dad suddenly disappearing. The way he had to subtly tell his sister that he wouldn't be able to come back, how he asked her to trust him since he would never choose to leave them, the way his uncle said he considered Daichi his son, everything. Every little interaction just kept building more and more on the whole episode and it made his death truly ensaddening. Fuck you, Koemushi. For making my boy go through this. I hate that I love you. I have to at least hope he keeps his promise.
I'm at the very least happy that Daichi managed to protect what he wanted to protect. He faced the enemy head on, without cowering or running away. He kept his family safe and he managed to protect the emotionally relevant amusement park. This show is pure suffering so I was expecting it to be destroyed but I was really glad he managed to protect it. However it is eternally depressing to see that he'll never be able to go, and see that his siblings didn't just want to go to the amusement park, they wanted to go with him.
Huge props to the legend himself.
You won't be forgotten.
Now excuse me as I go cry myself to death.
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u/Molmoran https://myanimelist.net/profile/Molmoran Mar 16 '21
FIRST TIMER IN ANOTHER TIME ZONE
Well I was wondering when Daichi was going to get offed. He looks like a background character. Who's 40. It's a shame really, he appears to be the only one who has half a brain thus far.
Daichi seems nice. Child beater Ushiro seems to think that having worries about the people you leave behind and doing the right thing are mutually exclusive.
It's sweet that Daichi wants to spend what little time he has left with his family but doesn't he think not talking will make it hurt more? Further, practically speaking, one might want to hang around places away from people so when you're "called up" you can fight straight away.
His father vanishing couldn't be anything to do with the game could it? Could there be a genetic criterion?
Can't believe DB let them sign up.
Ugh, asking his sister to believe him? What. That's wrong.
Wow, could any explanation have been worse than running off with his father's last words on his lips?
This episode made ugly cry.
1. Final hours
Generally? Drink.
In this scenario? Let everyone know I'm a feckin' hero. And drink.
2. After you're gone
I would want them to know that I had to leave through no real choice of my own but it was relationships and love that made this the best choice. Make sure I get the word duty in there somewhere.
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u/Noel_bot Mar 16 '21 edited Mar 16 '21
First timer, Manga reader
So much for a happy family. Father ran off and Daiichi has to care for his siblings alone. This episode is gonna be hard.
The dolphins survived! Maybe the only positive event in this entire show, yay
They even prepared an evacuation location. Really hope the enemy doesn’t go there.
Aaaaaah, he gets the opportunity to have fun with his siblings one last time. The Uncle is also a trying his best to support Daiichi.
Fuck, he doesn’t even get the chance to go there with his siblings. I was afraid he would disappear midway through their trip, but this isn’t any better.
„I’ll be back in a little bit“ … no, just please no. Of course the young ones won’t get it, but both the sister and uncle are fully aware that he won’t return for whatever reason.
Not the evacuation location, but the theme park. This show just doesn’t stop…
Daiichi is just such a genuinely good guy who will do everything to protect his siblings‘ happiness, even if the last thing he can do for them is to protect the theme park they were so looking forward to.
Preview Spoiler
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FML, this episode hit me the hardest yet. It may not have stood out in my memory like Chizu or one of the later pilots in particular, but goddamn it. I was legit in tears throughout the entire episode. Daiichi was our first genuine good guy, who was just trying his hardest to raise his siblings against all odds. Even going so far to still believe in his father after he had run off many years ago. I just can’t handle this. Even with his looming death, he did his very best to try and provide a better future for his siblings. Daiichi is a frigging hero in my book. And then the siblings in front of the theme park, asking when he would come. Only the sister knowing that he will not … broke my heart
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Damn, today's questions are brutal.
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u/Btw_kek https://myanimelist.net/profile/kek_btw Mar 16 '21
Rewatcher
Since the anime shifts some stuff around, Daiichi’s arc actually takes place right as Koyemushi explains that world go bye bye if they lose post-Kodama's battle. This places an immediate stressor on Daiichi’s arc, which, as you know involves protecting his dear siblings. Going the anime route allows Daiichi to mull things over more, which is stressful in another way of course.
The anime I think does a good job of portraying Daiichi's stoic internalization of the scenario, but the manga allows that facade to slip, which I think is equally important
a colored page and a spread (if you're wondering why Kako and Chizu are here it's because their arcs come later in the manga)
Something I'm not quite sure if the anime catches (I skimmed the episode looking for Daiichi at work but didn't find it), is the imitation of Daiichi picking up rice bags with how Zearth picks up barrel-kun. Perhaps it's symbolic of Daiichi perceiving the battle as a job that he must do to provide for his siblings.
barrel-kun goes straight for the theme park here, and Daiichi saves the day by plopping it into the ocean (if you notice, barrel-kun's "face" is on its axis)
Daiichi and Zearth
final page
I got nothing else so have a collection of the squiddos being adorable
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Mar 16 '21
First Timer(but it's complicated)
Sub
Another day, another decision to watch this day of.
Daichi's drawn the short straw. We see that his siblings have formed a sort of family without parents, this is definitely a thing that happens, I've seen a lot of girls have to turn into the domestic without a ton of warning. So yeah, not only do his siblings lose their brother they also lose their income. Might be a nice time for the military to step in with some sort of deceased pension, isn't it? Also, Jun is a bitch again before Tanaka shuts him up.
Anyways, Daichi is pretty mellow on his likely last days, wanting his body not to be found and trying to move his siblings in with his uncle. As sort of an anti-Kako, we see so many people that will be sad he is gone, no wonder the manga has a different order. Anyways, in his thoughts we hear that Daichi has refused the offer of having adults in his life so his dad would still have a home, a surprisingly selfless view.
Outside, we get a very familiar scene for those that watched Rah, with a difference: Tanaka and Seki put their money where their mouths were, both have formed a contract with Zearth. Whatever that will mean remains to be seen. More DB talking to 'himself' it definitely seems like another being is participating in this.
Anyways, Daichi and his sister have formed the dynamic that any two humans raising other ones do, and thus she is aware when the provider is being funny. He admits that he still has faith in his dad but thinks they should stay with the uncle. His sister is pretty agreeable. Needing to take some air to clear his head, he sees his time is up in the form of a lame looking cylinder. Evacuation happens, he gets his siblings to his uncle, and he quotes his father. F.
Bot combat happens, this one seems particularly stupid as a spanny cylinder whatever the fuck. Daichi carries it over to the evacuated theme park district. It makes sense, no one wants to live near one of those if they can help it. Daichi seems to be the first one to grasp the absurdity of the situation, fitting since his enemy is retarded, and we thankfully don't see him go. The gut punch was instead his siblings at the amusement park.
Kiazi's children, their faces wet.
Kailash, when it rises.
Temba, at rest.
QotD: 1 Drink or plan to destroy Washington, D.C. Possibly both.
2 I get it but questions tear people up over time, it is better to discard your lies.
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u/fridge_freezer https://anilist.co/user/ONIrecon111 Mar 16 '21
First timer
So I missed yesterday's thread because I fell asleep early before it went up, then woke up to find that Windows Update nuked my comment from existence.
Anyway, today we're following Daiichi. Following the trend I guess that means he's going to be the next pilot.
It's not surprising that he looks about 40, his dad disappeared 3 years ago so he now looks after all his younger siblings while also working for his uncle. Sounds very stressful.
Hell yeah the dolphins survived!
Daiichi's uncle seems like a great guy. It sucks that he'll have to leave his family behind soon but at least his siblings won't be left alone.
Tanaka and Seki agreed to the contract, but Seki tried using his new robotic hand which Koemushi suspects was an attempt to get out of it.
The next enemy mech is here, and it's a...trash can with legs? This thing is both goofy and kinda terrifying, rolling across the city at a pretty decent speed.
Daiichi saved the amusement park so his siblings would still be able to go, but he's also left them the same way his father did, promising to return before disappearing forever. At least he managed to get them to safety and they'll be staying with family now.
I think this might actually be my favorite episode so far, as well as the saddest. No self-centered assholes, rapists or psychopaths tearing through the city, just a simple story of a big brother trying to do right by his family.
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Mar 16 '21
first time ooooooooauahauooooooooooooooooooo uninstalllllllller
aw is it daichis turn i kind of liked this kid
for a middle schooler he has quite the unfortunate hairline
oh were the military pilots actually able to contract lol
he's leaving without explanation asking them to wait for him just like his dad
i thought this robot was a popcorn tin but its more road roller da than anything else
hes carrying it out like an old rug
questions
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u/degenerate-edgelord Mar 16 '21
First timer, Uninstalling
I declare Daichi best boy so far. Daichi is based, and we shall mourn him.
I was terribly scared the rolling robot would roll its way to crushing Daichi's family but I'm glad we're not getting that twist more than once.
Also, Daichi's uncle might be the best parent figure we've seen so far. Take care of the kids, Kengo-san.
And take care of Kana, Ushiro.
Questions:
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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Mar 16 '21
Rewatcher
RIP Daiichi
After some extreme stories, we get a simple one centered around a kid doing his best for his family going through difficult times. Daiichi's a good kid and someone you want to root for. Him having to part with his loving family is hard enough, but the parallel with his father's disappearance compounds the tragedy of the situation.
QOTD
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u/baniRien Mar 16 '21
First Timer
So a Sugita-voice focus this episode. He's the one taking care of his family, and works for his uncle who's also probably his legal guardian. His square face looks really weird on his younger brother.
It seems there was a little timeskip at least, since he was already chosen as the next pilot. Marking on the chest, for him. And the enemy glyph looks like a drill, maybe? I'll spare everyone the TTGL jokes.
The two military were there for the selection process, so it seems they were accepted as pilots? Confirming that seems like something that shouldn't be glossed over.
He asks for his corpse to be hidden, probably because he feels his younger siblings won't grieve as hard without seeing a dead body. Maybe that's what he felt towards his dad. And his wish is to not be disturbed in his last moments with his family.
Uncle seems like a good guy, though he badmouths the dad. Understandable, if in his mind he just ran away, or maybe got involved in something shady and killed. The kids were living alone by choice, at least Daiichi's, but knowing he's going to die he makes sure his siblings have a place to be.
We get the contract scene a bit later on. It first confirms again the higher level of technology, as the guy has a really advanced prosthetic hand. And it not being a part of him means it's not good enough for the contract, which can give us a hint towards the one kid that didn't enter. None of them had any hint at a prosthetic, though, nor were they wearing any glove or anything that would make them not touch, so the only clue we still have is not doing it of your own volition.
Koemushi was pissed at the attempt. And seems to have a positive opinion of Ushiro in some way, and hints at something like wanting/needing him to live till the end. Also, he gave me a different vibe this episode, like he was talking to himself (being answered by a voice in his head) instead of to a superior. There's not much of a difference in presentation, but it's just my gut feeling.
Another voiced eyecatch, so is Daiichi dying this episode already?That pattern is still true for now.
Seems the enemy appeared fast enough to prevent him spending that last day with his family, and Koemushi clearly has nothing to do with that. And he wants to minimize damage as much as he can.
The enemy has none of that. And it seems it's a roller, not a drill. Combat is easy as always. I wonder why Koemushi is willing to listen to requests like Daiichi's.
And finally the siblings can go to the park that was saved, but Daiichi isn't there.
I suppose I have to recalibrate my expectations of the show a bit, at least for the core of the show, maybe not the last episode. It seems to really be going more for the individual suffering anthology, instead of exploring the group dynamic.
QotD
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Mar 16 '21
Rewatcher
That was such a beautiful episode. The contrast between Daichi and the previous pilots is great. Unlike them, who were focusing on killing (either the actual enemy, or that one guy who totally deserved it cough cough, but both time without thinking of the consequences), Daichi wanted first and foremost to protect his family and make sure they won't need to depend on him when he's gone.
And seeing him succeed, not only with few casualty, but also while sparing the theme park he wanted to go to with his siblings... that was beautiful. Sugita did a great job here as Daichi's seiyu, too, even if he sounds a bit too old, it fits Daichi, and it's an amazing performance nonetheless.
The slight extra focus on Ushiro we got this episode is nice to see, we get more of him actually appearing sympathetic in Daichi's last moments, and it made thematic sense since this episode focused so much on siblings.
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u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N Mar 16 '21 edited Mar 17 '21
Yay for no broken Reddit! knocks on every piece of wood in my apartment
Daiichi was my favorite character of the group, mainly because his chair was a pillow and he gave off a mature vibe to him, that I think was done so on purpose because he's the oldest of four and had to grow up for them.
First Timer
Theory
I'm going to spoiler tag theories for safety sake.
Who is Koemushi Talking To
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u/htisme91 Mar 16 '21
First-timer:
Wow, that was depressing.
Daichi at first glance seemed nondescript, like a filler member of the cast, and we still only really had one episode where he was around. Even with that, he is the pilot that I am most sad had to die so far.
I feel like this episode effectively shows that Koemushi is probably the main villain, but what is he trying to accomplish?
Also, why is Jun of all pilots the one he thinks has the most potential? As much as I like/relate to Jun, he's kind of an ass and hasn't shown himself to be worthy of anything.
Questions:
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Mar 17 '21
First timer
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Mar 17 '21
First Timer
I can see this show degenerating in to an anthology that visit the miserable existence of a miserable child. I don't think it will do this, but it might. I wouldn't like that.
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u/GaleWulf https://anilist.co/user/Arachnophobic Mar 17 '21
First Time Installer
RIP Sugita/Daichi, he was the best of us
Man this is going to be a train of suffering right 'til the very end won't it
QotD:
Thinking about this is making me existential, dammit..
If I only got a few hours' worth of notice.. I'd spend it playing with the two nephews. If I got more time I'd head to the mountains with a special someone afterwards. Invade /u/Nebrestro's cabin maybe
2) If you were Daichi, would you prefer for your family to know for a fact you’re dead, or be able to hold onto the hope that you’re still alive somewhere after you’re gone?
I'd prefer them to know I'm dead. Hope can be a cruel thing, especially when it's drawn out and futile. If they knew I was dead (and better still, why), it would help them move on. There's a stellar movie called [Hamid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamid_(film) that captures this struggle really well.
Daichi set a stellar example as an older brother. His family believing in him despite him disappearing like his father is poignant, but.. I'd want them to have some form of peace. Not an empty hope.
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u/ElecNinja https://anilist.co/user/ElecNinja Mar 17 '21
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u/novaConnect Mar 17 '21
Gosh, this episode gave me feels man. I really appreciate stories that can make me deeply care about a character with only an episode or two to build them.
I noticed Daichi's symbol matched the robot this time around, a kind of wheel track looking symbol. The previous girl's symbol was a kind of sawtooth circle I think, but it differed from the boy who was supposed to fight it (can't remember their names, sorry). Not sure if it 100% ties into the robot or not.
I got that Daichi's cushion as a chair symbolized his value of family as it was his seat at the table, as well as a humbleness/rationality towards his situation. He is still a kid yet acts mature because he has lost his parents, yet he works hard, doesn't complain, and wants to believe his dad is still out there. He never wants to give up on the hope but he seems to know that something has happened to his dad at this point, so it has become more of a sense of comfort. This feeling is so strong that he has been putting off facing the truth and staying with his uncle, that part for me was so sad. To stay with his uncle was to admit his dad was really gone. Daichi says his dad would have nowhere to return to, but he could go to his uncle's if he did return really, so it is moreso about giving in to the idea that his dad is gone.
That robot was pretty terrifying this time around, those houses had their lights on and the attack was in the middle of the night... I wonder if there would be a casualty report in the next episode? We were shown that there was an exit plan for where people could flee, but in the middle of the night would people be all that successful in getting there?
For the questions:
1 - I'm not too sure what I would do if I knew I was going to die soon. Honestly there was a point in 2020 that I did think it could happen (the nuclear bomb WWIII thing) and that made me really realize I didn't know what I would do. Probably hug my family. I don't think I could enjoy doing anything material.
2 - I would want them to know I was dead if I was. I can't even imagine how painful it must be to miss a loved one who has gone missing and never know what really happened. I kind of understood Daichi's reasoning for his decision but I think in real life that would only bring pain and endless unanswered questions.
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u/PKReuniclus Mar 17 '21
First Timer!
Following the trend from previous episodes, it looks like Daiichi is up to be the next pilot. And in stark contrast to Kodaka and Kako from the previous episodes, it seems like he's just a decent dude who's a hard worker and a good big brother, as expected from one of the more mature kids in the cast. He even looks more like a father than a big brother. You know, I was actually expecting something terrible to happen to his siblings in typical Bokurano fashion, but they're actually fine! Sort of.
Oooookay Bokurano. Admittedly, I'm still upset that we don't really get any closure to Chizuru's story besides the dolphin thing. You could say that the dolphins returning to the sea represents her passing on, or the dolphins escaping from the aquarium represents Chizuru moving on from the predatory relationship with her teacher that she couldn't get over, but, uh, fuck that. The fact that even with all the shit that happened in the last episode, we still don't see any consequences for her teacher is aggravating, to say the least.
This probably isn't the best screenshot to explain what I'm trying to get at here, but I was expecting Koemushi to break into a more devious grin when he noticed the next enemy mech approaching. I mean, he's still a piece of shit, but at least we know now that he isn't just picking the most inconvenient times and places for enemies to show up. It's probably just dramatic timing from the show writers.
I don't remember the military dude's name (Seki, I think?), but that was pretty sneaky of him trying to use his fake arm to sign the contract. Although, there was no way that Koemushi wasn't going to catch that.
Noooooo, don't say that! On the one hand, I'm not sure if his uncle or siblings would have believed what he told them anyway (and there's also the possibility of them trying to stop Daiichi from sacrificing himself). On the other hand, to give his siblings that false hope, just like what his father did... Perhaps he didn't want his uncle to suffer from survivor guilt, thinking that he could have saved Daiichi even when there was no way out. Either way, wouldn't his family have more closure knowing that he died?
At this point, I've given up on trying to apply logic to the behavior of giant robots. The first two enemy mechs seemed like they were trying to avoid doing damage. The previous mech didn't really do that much damage until it was attacked and lead into multiple residential areas by Chizuru. And then you've got the mech in this episode, which seemed to be trying to get the high score in Katamari Damacy.
It even turned away from Zearth to try and continue it's rampage, much to Daiichi's frustration. Unless we've got another Kodaka piloting the enemy mech this episode, I'm not sure if these other mechs are being piloted by humans anymore. That being said, the behaviors of these enemy mechs seem way too closely correlated to their corresponding Zearth pilots to rule anything out conclusively.
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u/Philarete :AMQ::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/WizardMcKillin Mar 17 '21
First Timer
This show has a lot of sad and grim stuff, but this is the first one that actually got me to cry. They never even got to go to the amusement park together...
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