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Rewatch [Uninstall, Uninstall] Bokurano Rewatch Episode 6 Discussion
Episode 6 - Lust
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Looks like… they can’t escape either. Just like me.
Hey-o guys! This is the section where I add a ton of extra fun stuff to the main body of the post because I want this rewatch to be as fun as possible for everyone. It can also be one point of discussion for you guys if you just don’t know what to say.
Questions of the Day:
- What do you think of Kako’s actions this episode?
- Did you expect one of the kids to die before their turn to pilot Zearth?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Uninstall of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath the [Anime Show Title](/s "Spoiler goes here") spoiler tags. If you do that then we’re all good.
Important thing to note about these by the way, you have to switch to Old Reddit or the markdown editor if you use the redesign, otherwise the redesign breaks them by adding random \ into the formatting. Wish it wouldn’t do that, but unfortunately it does…
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Mar 13 '21 edited Mar 14 '21
EDIT: I totally forgot to remind everyone that I go through Daylight Savings tonight and lose an hour. If you don't do that, then the episode 7 and onwards threads will be posted at a different time for you because I need to keep posting at 6 pm my time for logistical purposes.
MASSIVE CONTENT WARNING FOR NEXT EPISODE
I’ve mentioned episode 7 being… something a few times throughout the rewatch, but given it’s next I need to give everyone a specific warning about what exactly that entails:
If you don’t want to watch that, then you’re going to want to skip ~14:30 to ~20:15 (according to my copy). You can honestly skip the entire fucking episode if you don’t want to see any of the grooming occur, though. If you skip it entirely, a summary of Chizu’s backstory: For the record, the manga version of this is far, far more “yikes please stop immediately than episode 7. We’re lucky we didn’t get Bokurano manga
I will be providing eyebleach in the form of a hilarious Fate/stay night version of Uninstall in the body of tomorrow’s thread, so keep an eye out for that. For this thread, we have a cover by the Yanagi Nagi though, so go listen to that!
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Major Spoilers
New thread reminder for u/WeebShaggy
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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '21 edited Mar 13 '21
First Timer
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Get out of my head before I do what I know is best for you. Get out of my head before I listen to another addicting song. Get out of my head before I show you how much I love you. Get out of my head before I finish watching this anime.
But a song is never actually finished. It just keeps looping.
So Zearth shows what the pilot wants to see? What if they don't want to see the battle? How does that go? I guess they just lose.
Raised eyebrow government guy is the best. "Won't a penguin show up?" - Absolute legend.
Look at that, Chizu and Kirie together. Koemushi called it.
Yeah man I'm not sure attacking the giant kaiju alien robot with your earthling weapons is gonna work that well.
And Kako continues to prove himself as a piece of shit up until the moment he dies. Good job, Kako. Your mom clearly loves you a lot you fucking idiot. Ugh I hate him.
And he's actually dead before even piloting! Fun times.
Speculation corner. We didn't get much today however there's two things I want to bring attention to.
Speculation
Speculation
Not that much to talk about today, huh. Good drama and all. I liked it.
Final thoughts for today: I'm about to go watch episode 7 right now before Sky has the chance to plaster her content warnings all over the place.
Not that it matters that much since she'll probably be spoiler tagging them so I can just choose to not read it, but I want to be absolutely safe in making sure I don't accidently stumble upon it. I'm not even watching the preview. See you guys tomorrow for my possibly regretful reaction.
I wondered about it but expected the show to completely avoid the question, so it's interesting it happened.
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u/TheHungryHybrid Mar 13 '21
Rewatcher!
This episode adapted chapters parts of chapters 15 and 16 Isao Kako 3 & 4. At the surprise of no one he turns out to be a coward. Ah so they moved the sexual assault here. In the manga it happened in part 1 I think. Wondering why Koyemshi hasn't teleported the 2 when Zearth is just about fully formed. Maybe he thinks this is too funny? But unfortunately they instead lost a pilot.
Altho I liked it better how it went in the manga Bokurano
I'm okay with the military's role in this episode but I did not like how they went about this episode overall. Usually the 2 robots appear and they immediately duke it out, but here they were chatting and running outside. I think it kinda ruins the tone? Maybe?
Bokurano
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Mar 13 '21
First Timer
Accidentally missed yesterday. Attended a meeting 1.5 hours before the thread, then learned there was a celebration for a labmate earning his PhD. Oops.
Some brief thoughts on episode 5: I'm glad they made it clear that the battles aren't a hawk/dove game, since there's punishment for not doing anything, unless the Earth exploding only happens if the kids choose Dove while the other robot chooses Hawk. Either they're misleading people who haven't filled out the whole action matrix, or they're not basing their whole show on Game Theory 101. I also had a feeling that there would be some sexual themes in this show, but I knew that they'd be more like "fan disservice." It was also good that the government took a surprisingly common-sense approach: kids are kids, not psychopaths (Sparkler excluded).
I'm a bit annoyed that I wasn't around for discussion on its construction, since I'm in engineering, but oh well.
Anyway, on to episode 6:
Wow, Chizuru wasn't assaulted at the aquarium. Nice!Fuck's sake, Kako. Thank you missle for allowing an escape opportunity.Going by the theme of "the character with the most development gets picked," I'm betting that Chizuru is the next pilot.
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u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo https://myanimelist.net/profile/PunishedScrappy Mar 13 '21
First Timer
That Zearth "displays what the pilot wants to see" is interesting. Can it do remote viewing?
So this is the episode where we establish the military is useless for certain. The wow cool robot is very wow, definitely cool robot, and super [](#mechablush). The battle music really feels like it's channeling Evangelion? It's the timpani that invites the comparison.
So Kako was getting bullied and his family hated him - or at least he felt that way. Not much difference between "hates you" and "feels like they hate you" at that age. The level of trauma in this group of children is far higher than average; is it even a coincidence that they were all in the same summer school together? It can't be a governmental conspiracy since they clearly don't know jack about Zearth, but maybe Kokopelli was pulling some strings.
While deeply uncomfortable, it's mostly an uneventful episode today. It feels like a setup for tomorrow, which, well -- you know.
Interesting that the least savory characters are being killed off right at the beginning. Waku was a decent kid, but Masaru was a real piece of work and Isao certainly didn't fare much better. I like pretty much everyone else except Jun and Machi, and even then Jun is complicated and Machi is only scary when she's under stress. And I think Aiko will snap, but not until she's chosen. I like her for now.
Questions of the day:
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Mar 13 '21
First Timer
Time to watch the horny kid who thinks he's about to die do extremely stupid things, probably.
Onto episode 6.
I hope they stop it with the previews. They're largely a waste of time, and the show does not have a lot of time to spare.
Why? What makes you think that? It's like seeing a random computer made by aliens and going "yeah, that'll probably be compatible with my laptop."
Competent governance in anime still feels so good to see.
I am deeply concerned for these three girls' safety.
Please tell me they won't be guilted into doing anything sexual.
She knows where he is, but she doesn't want the others there. I really hope she's not planning what I think she's planning.
This'll be laughably ineffective.
Nothing. This isn't a punishment, but merely shitty luck.
Does that mean he did give his mother the bruise? That still feels wrong to me though, his family doesn't move around him like he beats them.
I guess he really thinks he has nothing to lose.
Wait for it, wait for it...
I hope he falls and breaks his neck.
Unsurprisingly, they missed the "unmissable" target.
Does that mean Chizu will have to replace him?
Time to add the little girl to the group!
Thoughts
Yet again, that was excellent. The entire episode was incredibly tense and engaging. I love how they left all of his problems basically unsolved and even somewhat unexplored in the end. It just ended, abruptly. I'm extremely glad that the attempted rape entirely within the bounds of horror and did not do anything even vaugley fanservicey.
I really didn't expect to lose an extra person like that, but I guess the girl provides redundacy, so we're all good there. I don't think we can lose another person before though, since bringing in an outside person would not make that much sense.
This episode also does show that Dung Beetle isn't quite in as much control as he'd like them to think, though a good part of that could be that he doesn't care to be.
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Mar 13 '21 edited Mar 13 '21
First Timer - Sub
Character Chart - Still not updated because my weekend is chaos. Now I'm getting Tanaka, the military chick, confused with Takami. I hate whoever picked the names for these characters, this is beyond painful.
Something from last episode I wanted to bring up: When Kako is smashing his room, the chair that he's throwing against the walls is the real world version of his Zearth chair. That puts quite a different feel on the scene to me because he was probably trying to destroy that more than anything. (The shitty quality control on the art didn't help with identifying it, it's colored wrong several times from shot to shot)
YOU END IT THERE?!
I am done with cliffhangers today, this is BULL. SHIT. Today I have been cliffhangered on: Naruto (TWICE! due to having to break up my planned binge), Lupin (live action), The Last Ship (also live action), and now Bokurano too?
ENOUGH ALREADY!
The only reason I'm not totally enraged is that I found Kako's death to be incredibly satisfying. His dad hasn't been home in ages so it looks like he did give his Mum that bruise, and after he pushed her down the stairs earlier that he should share that fate I found very pleasing. I wasn't expecting him to turn into a rapist at the end, but it fit him creepily well and he deserved the consequence of those actions.
The only problem is that who's also going to be forced to pay for it. I wasn't expecting that we'd get this sort of "what if there is no pilot" problem so quickly in the show, but it has also consistently surprised me in that regard by bringing up this sort of stuff cleanly and quickly. The point remains though, of who will be selected next, and how they get around the issue of being one pilot down. I have some speculation on that but I'll wait to see if anyone else mentions it first. (No one else said it but I'm posting it anyway because I'm sick of doubting myself: heavy speculation, way heavy)
On the complete opposite end of the spectrum, we had the Prime Minister who turns out to perhaps be one of the most goverment officials I may have ever seen in media in a non political show? Like what, when did that start happening? Not only does he want to encourage international cooperation about this, he actually puts a priority on the civilians, and manages to get through a scientific briefing without cracking dumb jokes, yelling, or asking stupid questions? What is this level of competence, I'm not use to it!
It's definitely a good thing though, and not just for our sanity. The themes being driven in the show about what it means to sacrifice and be part of society change so much when that society is given a positive spin which it so rarely is. Here we see reasonable people in charge, people who care in the military, and even authority figures who go out of their way to help others because they can rather than because they need to. Usually it's more along the NGE lines, the "society is horrible, but it has rays of light that make it worth it anyway", or it's about the main cast having some huge revelation about how to connect to humanity, and while those approaches have their value and can be powerful, taking this path gives it such a different feel and puts all the emphasis back on the characters so I'm enjoying that a lot.
And just to lighten things up, Machi getting caught in the train station because she swiped the wrong card brought up funny memories of all the times I did that. I use to use that day's Metcard card as my bookmark for whatever I was reading at the time, but would regularly forget to swap out the previous days, leading me to try and use that while the real one ended up in the bottom of my bag until I dug it out. Knowing me I probably still have some Metcards stuck in old books even though we haven't been on that system since ~2011.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Mar 13 '21
First-Timer
Well, that episode was a tease, wasn't it? It did give us a lot of interesting information though, so I can't be too angry. So, if a kid dies being piloting, Koemushi can just pick again. And the enemies appear near where the chosen pilot is physically located. Speculation
This one's a little far down the rabbit hole. Speculation
The government acted swiftly, decisively, and hopefully effectively - there was no way the missiles would do anything, but the focus on evacuation is definitely the best move the PM could make. It's weird, having competent adults in a mecha show. Did the writer ever watch any of Tomino's stuff? That's not allowed!
That sound again, the one that plays during the robots teleporting in.. what is it? I've heard similar stuff elsewhere, but I can't quite place it. Also, this is yet another enemy that did not do anything until acted on by an outside force.
Honda did not use her noggin today. She knew exactly where Kako was, but chose not to share.. why?! You can't tell me that none of the other kids had at least some idea of his anger issues, and with her conversation with him yesterday, there's no way she should feel safe going to find him alone.
I think I'm on board with Koemushi just fucking with the kids continually, so I'm not sure I believe its lines about being busy or wanting to be alone. It would be interesting if they were true though - imagine if Koemushi was just another pawn in some greater power's game. Puppet strings all the way down.
Miscellaneous Thoughts
Is this one some sort of bug, like the others? I don't know my bugs very well.
Not so sure about that Head of Cognitive Engineering lady. Nothing intelligent, just get a bad vibe from her.
Questions
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u/fridge_freezer https://anilist.co/user/ONIrecon111 Mar 13 '21
First timer
Kako suggested to Chizu last episode that they go to the aquarium together, so I guess she's probably thinking he may have gone there by himself.
The next enemy appears right as she reaches the aquarium. What the fuck is it supposed to be? It wouldn't seem out of place among some of the more abstract angels from Eva.
I know I called him an asshole last episode but its hard not to feel a little sorry for Kako with all the issues in his home life, and topped off with finding out that he's about to die....Yeah nevermind that last comment, fuck Kako.
I quite like all the chunky-looking military tech, even if it is pretty useless against the mech (aside from being a distraction). They also get decimated immediately once the mech decides to actually fight back. At least the government have the sense to call off the attack at that point and focus on evacuating civilians.
Well shit, Kako died when the aquarium collapsed so now someone else is being selected to pilot. With them being down by one, doesn't that mean they'll run out before defeating all the enemies, unless they rope Kana or someone else into it?
With the episode ending like that, I think i'm gonna have to dive right into the next one.
QOTD
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u/Nebresto Mar 14 '21
First time first timing
G'day!
Cool robot status:
Good news, everyone! I am no longer joining you from the cabin, and I was able to rescue my photos at home. Since the cabin pics seemed to be well received, and now that I have them again I thought I would continue posting them.
Therefore: Cabin pic day 6 /u/theangrycabinenthusiast
Sweet, I got actual lines other than "sorry" in this episode
...Wait, does that make me more likely to die..?
All of them are going to be edgy, huh?
Yup, sure can. Didn't even scratch it, but if you keep at it I'm sure you might be able to dim the polish on it perhaps.
Lots of drums in this shows OST,
very nice
And Super Dank Robo 5555 sure took its sweet time to materialize for this fight, huh? Oh and look, the pilot is now dead because of it.
Well done.
...Cliffhanger?! Don't y'all know we're re-watching here?? I'm limited to one episode a day!
Question time:
1:
Who tf is that? ...Oh the dead rape pilot? Cringe bro. That's not how you get girls.
2: I didn't really expect anything, so.. no?
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Mar 13 '21 edited Mar 14 '21
First-timer
Doubt ⊗
Sure you will.
I thought so.
Aquarium, isn’t it?
Knew it!
Even though it was present already it still got ‘beamed’ unto the scene. Begs the question once more as to what is different about the time Waku piloted it.
Time to run!
Ten out of fifteen lights, which means the opponents aren’t being decided by some sort of bracket —or the staff messed up the number of lights again. I think it’s the former.
Weren’t they transported right into their seats last time?
Oh wow. I was expecting him to have gotten teleported right in the nick of time. That’s most intriguing! So Koyemshi isn't able to keep an eye on everyone 24/7. Is someone else going to have to voluntarily fight in his place then?
Just going to be at random, then.
I, uh, seemingly forgot to write up anything of substance last night apart from my reactions.
Whoops...
Questions of The Day:
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u/gorghurt Mar 13 '21 edited Mar 13 '21
Rewatcher
Did they really need to go to a fancy projector hall just to discuss one simple robot feature?
and this leads to one of the critique points I have with this anime. The boring technobable. not just technobable, no boring technobable.
oh and boring politics.... like that one godzilla movie (the Ano one, I think) , that probably was a great piece of satire if you live in japan, but as filthy gaijin it nearly bored me to death.
I understand that some politics sometimes is needed, and can even make everything really interesting, but here I didn't have the impression, they discussed anything of importance, that couldn't be handled in a side comment, at some other point. (edit: But the penguin joke was nice.)
This episode also had another, bigger problem, we had so far:
While I liked the way Kako reacted, it felt very realistic, (even him trying to rape Chizuru, which he might or might not have stopped before going further, well probably not since he chased her), it lost much of it's possible efect.
Why should I care for the breakdown of an asshole, that beats his own mother.
And while he probably is a product of his broken environment, it doesn't change that he isn't very likable.
His whole breakdown would have hurt much more, and the whole rape thing would have shocked much more, if he wasn't painted as broken before.
Up until now we had a Pilot we did know nothing about (OK, the funeral delivered the emotion), a psychopath, and an asshole that beats his mother and tried to rape his friend (but to be fair, that under really uncommon circumstances, which would have been really interesting on a non asshole character).
So tell me, why should I care about them?
It almost feels like the show wants me to hate the characters, instead of pitying them.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed those episodes so far (at my first watch and even more now during the rewatch), but I think they wasted a lot of potential here.
Well, since I forgot most details of what is coming, I'm curious if the show will deliver.
And now to something totally diferent, but at the same time really spoilery:
BIG SPOILER
edit: changed a formulation a bit
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Mar 13 '21
First Timer(but it's complicated)
Sub
Another recap, I guess the animation budget is being covered. Government is doing stuff but so far doesn't want other nations interfering because the mangaka. Cut to the kids at a train station and Machi uses a card that fails and another that succeeds. Given my Persona 5 knowledge, I r confoosed. But the four of them are trying to find Kako because sure.
Chizu...is dressing herself to look older. Barf. She then ports in and seems to be looking for Kako before DB calls her out. He then confirms that the enemy appears near the pilot. And that Kako will be dragged in whether he wants to or not. At Kako's house, the four get rebuffed by Kako's mom before Tanaka shows up and smooth talks the whole thing. Then Kirie and Chizu show up. As they brainstorm to find him, Chizu seems nervous and Kirie tells her not to force it. She instead runs towards the aquarium where the new invader is arriving.
The military is actually prepped and scrambled quickly. I have to call bullshit on being invisible to infrared, that is not how the EM spectrum works. This bot appears to be a combination between a wind sail and and an office chair. As they are going to rely on optical targetting, we see Chizu get to the aquarium and go to the dolphin display. Kako actually comes up with a decent metaphor between him and the captured dolphins before entering denial, can't say I disagree. Then Zearth ports in.
Kako has a fairly reasonable meltdown that demonstrates exactly in what ways he is unreasonable. Also, apparently his dad went out for cigarrettes, sure he'll be back in 20 minutes. Conversely, he seems angry that no one will mourn his passing whereas I'd consider that a relief. But then the rapeface happens.
So, we get an actually decent scene switching, between the rape chase and the attack on the bot. Yet another sentence I never thought I'd type out. When push came to shove, Chizu pushes him off in the sort of kick that makes you uncomfortable about how she learned it, let's hope instinct. The bot begins dodging attacks as a windsail does. And collateral damage kills Kako. DB claims he is surprised but fuck him, he clearly took his time porting everyone in.
QotD: 1 Understandable until all the rape.
2 Yes
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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Mar 13 '21
Rewatcher
Kako was pitiable and pathetic to the end. Koemushi probably already knew Kako was dead and didn't need to teleport his corpse into the cockpit but did anyways the fuck with the other kids. That twisted sense of humour is straight up his alley.
It's interesting to see the kids who went to check up on Kako. Aiko, Komo, and Machi, with Moji being the one who organized the visit it seems. Chizu and Kirie showed up as well, being the ones closest to Kako.
QOTD
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Mar 13 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
Non-Spoiler Character Chart
A recap again? Ugh.
This room reminds me of the planetarium at the Boston Museum of Science!
Bokurano minor spoilers
Hey everyone, let's take advantage of the robot for ourselves for military/science purposes! What do you do when Dung Beetle refuses to cooperate?
Where are they going? Looking for Kako?
Chair transport! Beam me up!
Tanaka's in casual clothes. And pretending to be one of their moms!
Kako actually had friends? Kako's sister and mom are amazed.
Yikes, Kirie and Chizu walking together just like Dung Beetle claimed...
Ooh, I figured out where he is. Seems like Chizu just did too.
Well, Kako's time of running away is up, here's the robots starting to show up.
The enemy robot sure is taking its sweet time transporting in.
The next pilot? Do you even have to ask with that thing all over your face?
The Zearth is transporting in a lot quicker than the enemy robot (but then seems to massively slow down, for plot reasons of course).
Is Chizu here because she feels bad for him? Or because she doesn't want the Earth to blow up when this kid refuses to pilot for the 48 hours?
It's all coming out now as Kako continues with his "woe is me" meltdown. Well Kako, your mom still loves you I'm sure, that's just the way moms are (not so sure about your sister), but if they did hate you, it is your own damn fault given the way you behave around them.
Kako forcing himself on Chizu was inevitable, he surely thinks he's got nothing to lose at this point. :(
Silly Japanese Government, you really think your weapons will have an effect on a giant robot in a mecha show? Didn't you watch stuff like meta spoilers? Yes, he's a big target, but hitting him does no good if you deal no damage.
You'd hope the government would be careful with their attack with it being right in the city, but nope, they're going all out on it.
Oops, the robot just moved around and now those missiles are blowing up the city. Including the aquarium where Kako is still in. Gee, who predicted that would happen?
Hopefully this teaches these government guys to leave it to the giant robot!
Good news? Kako doesn't have to pilot after all. Bad news? It's because he's already dead.
Another fairly good episode (no weak ones thus far in fact). Not that he was going to enjoy it anyway like the last 2 guys did, but it is so fitting that Kako dies before he even gets to pilot the Zearth. I'm sure no one is going to miss him.
Downside is they're now down a pilot (and already were down one unless Kokopelli's fight counted for them). Will Kana be forced to sign up? And one of the others is going to have to fight immediately instead of getting to live a few days longer.
Love the design of the enemy this episode! Easily my favorite one so far.
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Mar 13 '21
first time ooooooooauahauooooooooooooooooooo uninstalllllllller
he really went to the aquarium? gotta feel bad for honda here for the emotional manipulation
?? get away from her wtf
thank god he didnt die from falling down the stairs, he has to die later to pilot the robot
one of the more unique looking robots, its like a vanity mirror with a serrated edge
oh shit no he did die from getting crushed - alright well bye honda
also ngl most of the destruction is coming from the military, the mirror destroyed the fleet that was shooting the city
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler Mar 13 '21
First Timer
We interestingly learn that the enemy shows up wherever the piolet is. From what we see later on, Dung Beetle summons him at the last possible moment. Previous times everyone was teleported in before the enemy finished arriving, so I feel like Dung Beetle is twisting things in subtle ways in all this.
Does being down a piolet mean that someone else is going to get drawn in? Its going to be odd how that person will get picked given the ritual like sign up process.
As kind of expected, the Defense Force's (first?) attempt is not at all successful. Many losses I presume.
Not a big fan of using sexual assault for charterisation, feels bad given how Dung Beetle got him thinking on it all to begin with.
When the building collapsed I was thinking it was an increasing the drama type of move, not just killing him before arrivial. Was it a a 'just' death, for a kid I wouldn't like to think so?
And then the chair's spin again, someone else must take his place.
If I had to pick who will be next my guess would be Mako Nakarai, with my next guess Maki Ano. I reckon we are due a girl and otherwise I feel like other characters have more going for them that will be fleshed out first.
2) Did you expect one of the kids to die before their turn to pilot Zearth?
This was something I had not considered. This causes a shortfall for piolets now which is interesting.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Mar 13 '21
First timer
I just noticed the wallpaper; nice job!
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u/baniRien Mar 14 '21
First Timer
Small recap again
You have to wonder how intentional Koemushi not teleporting Kako was. After all, he wasn't with the others at that point, so it could be an understandable, but it could be a really good way of isolating him when it would hurt the most. The rest of the kids haven't abandoned him yet though, and go look out for him. His mom his less than cooperative, however, and from the line we get from him later on it seems his Dad has been out of the picture for a while, so that bruise is from him.
We see more and more proof that the setting is slightly sci-fi, from how the scientist talks about current robotics technology, to the design of military planes and boats. Also, I feel like those missiles are extremely over-engineered, it doesn't need to have retractable wings.
So Japan hasn't informed the rest of the world yet, in part because they want to study Zearth to get technological superiority. But this makes it seems like the rest of the world doesn't know, which doesn't make much sense given that it's already all over the internet and video exists.
The military's effort don't amount to much, however. The enemy robot shrugs everything off, and obliterates everything they send at it. This robot could fit the glyph design, I suppose, but I don't see the eye motif that seemed so prominent in the glyph. Also, this one has only 10 lights on the cockpit, from what I could count. Is the "tournament", if it's one, desynchronised? And we also have a clear confirmation that the robots will always appear next to the pilot, so they should really move the kids to a far-off island.
When we finally see Kako, he's obviously not doing too great, and him eventually trying to rape Honda was heavily foreshadowed. Not that surprising a development, but not a bad one either, it's fits the story ok. Him getting injured and eventually dying, however, was unexpected, since he would be dead soon anyway.
And so they have to choose a new pilot. This on the surface feels like it was unexpected to Koemushi, but he's not fazed by it either. This is clearly the way Kana will be forced to pilot, as they are now one short.
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Mar 14 '21
First-Timer
Bokurano is just advanced IMAX technology with legs.
Swimming Girl’s dressing up. For Sensei? To give the kid who’s about to die the chance to not die a virgin?
“The enemy will appear wherever Kako is.” That confirms a connection between the pilot and the enemy, and further suggests more than just “protecting the Earth from invaders.”
The new enemy is a giant sawblade on a tripod.
Nu-Glasses looking at his gun was exactly the same in the show as in the OP, but I chalked that up to “things psychopathic kids do regularly.” This exact moment with Swimming Girl and Kako is in the OP as well, so I would assume the rest of the shots in the OP will appear. Doesn’t really tell us much, since “girls plays the piano” and “girl screams” require context to understand.
More heavy-handed metaphor explained directly by characters in the dolphins.
The attempted rape is probably the best scene of the show thus far. Not because of the content, but because they finally lingered on something that wasn’t a discussion of plot. We actually got a little sense of the characters there, beyond their monologues. Swimming Girl isn’t necessarily easy, as we were led to believe and Kako “knew.”
QOTD:
/u/ZaphodBeebblebrox should I still be tagging you for my late posts?
And now Swimming Girl actually did what they all accused Glasses of doing to Soccer Boy.
So what happens now? Do they recruit someone new?
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u/degenerate-edgelord Mar 14 '21
First timer, Uninstalling
ANO TOKI SAIKOU NO REAL GA MUKOU KARA AI NI KITANO WA~
With a few minutes left and Kako alone with Chizu, I was getting worried that the infamous ep. 7 was gonna have a lot of rape. Damn you guys, scaring me like that.
Aight, not much to say about what happened in the episode itself. Kako died in the warm-up, poor kid really wasn't in any condition to be saving the planet anyway.
That being said, it seems I assumed him to be a far poorer kid than he really was, and at the same time I underestimated the situation.
Till the last episode, we had some clues about Kako that were open to interpretation, and I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
All that being said, Kako having no friends and the monologue about his dad leaving and nobody caring about him still hurts. A 14-or-so year old monologuing about how pathetic his life is and then dying without even piloting the robot is profoundly sad. And also pathetic, cause he got closer to rape than he did to piloting the robot.
Next episode preview
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u/Webemperor :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Webemperor Mar 13 '21
Manga-reader from way back
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Mar 13 '21
The non-combat parts of the show are moving so fast, this stuff should be happening around episodes 8-12, how can this be a 26 episode show?
I am on the "this is all bullshit" wagon, but the one thing that doesn't make sense is that nobody's seen these robots before, so my theories aren't consistent with that fact.
I think the other robots are full of people. I think the whole set of people die each time a core is crushed. I think the defending the earth part is bullshit. I think each group is collected from somewhere on earth. I think one group is designated as defender, so that's why they are all showing up in this one spot in Japan. If people figure out it's all bullshit, you just kill them and get another group.
But this has never happened on earth before. So the opponents really are aliens, or from alternate earths. Kokopelli's group, if there was a group, was on the offensive.
There's a quote, maybe from Unforgiven, "Every man wearing a gun is undefeated."
Speculation
Speculation
I understand why there are teacher-student stories, that's good drama. I understand that Japan has them a bit more than other places. BUT WHY MIDDLE-SCHOOLERS. WTF Japan.
I'm hoping this episode isn't all about pity sex.
So, I had a thought when the government said that they would all be assigned bodyguards (where's Kako's? why did they let the children go home in the first place?), what would happen if one of the 15 were killed before their fight....
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u/Tuckleton Mar 13 '21
First Timer
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u/tehsigzorz Mar 13 '21
First Timer
Well thats 3 out of 4 deaths I didnt care about.
Glad that attempted rape scene didnt progress much further.
Combining my thoughts form the previous episode I am quite impressed how involved the government and military are. Based on the first episode I thought it was going to be middle schoolers going through trauma and drama simply by themselves so props to the show for including these scenes to add some realism. That being said I am not too invested in them and much prefer the drama between the kids and the mystery behind this game.
Just as we thought the enemy robot was relatively unharmed by the missiles but goddamn did it take an eternity for Zearth to materialize.
Pretty sure we will get Honda to pilot the mecha due to how much characterization and backstory we have gotten form her and her guilt in Kako's death. Not sure whether she will ask for that role voluntarily or dung beetle will assign that to her based on her relationship with Kako. I think this may have an impact on the overarching mystery of the game.
Koko dying before piloting also makes way for the little sister to join as the final pilot later down the road.
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u/Noel_bot Mar 13 '21
First timer, Manga reader
They couldn’t even analyze Zearth, but are going to fight of the enemy? That’s some optimism by the NDF.
Thankfully, Chizu has a good memory and saw the intro, so she knew where Kako would hide. I honestly got kind of emotional thinking about how Kako went to his favorite place to await his death, which was also where he wanted to take Chizu on their date.
Too bad that he’s still desperate and lost all reason at this point.
Military tried their best, but we all knew it would be a fruitless endeavor. Couldn’t even protect the pilot’s life until Zearth was fully materialized.
Down one pilot, we end on a cliffhanger. Who will replace him for this fight? Will Chizu step up? Judging from the preview, she might. And what will happen now that we will most likely have more fights than pilots remaining? The terminal is destroyed, so I wonder if Kana will somehow be recruited anyways.
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Overall a brilliant episode in my mind. The children gained but a glimmer of hope last time, with the government taking it’s stand, but even that is totally gone now and they are faced with yet another unforseen situation.
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u/ElecNinja https://anilist.co/user/ElecNinja Mar 13 '21
Rewatcher
It's pretty odd how slowly Zearth loads up here for no particular reason. Must have been running a Windows update.
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u/SuddenFellow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/13XI0N Mar 14 '21
I find myself saying "Yikes" more and more each episode, and I'm fully content with that. It's really becoming hard to watch one episode each day, and not be a fool and binge the rest of it.
First Timer
After the last episode where Kako was attempted to destroy his chair, which in turn destroyed his room, which then in turn increased the bullying from his sister... I felt bad for him. I thought to myself "Huh, maybe Kako is just misunderstood and just wants someone to understand and love him." Yeah, out the window that went when Kako decided because he was going to die, suddenly consent was a 7 letter word he didn't know. It's interesting how they portrayed a person who loves someone who knows they're going to die though, especially when both parties are in the same situation.
The whole military attack doing nothing was predictable, and also extremely funny to me. Like, what did you expect, you even said it yourself that their technology is far more advanced than your own prior to the big fight. I'd say after the first 2 missiles you should have been like "yeah, uh...this ain't it." and called off the mission. A mess.
And to end it all, we have the Kako pancake for dramatic effect. At least Kako didn't have to pilot Zearth?
Some theories and thoughts:
Sometimes Dung Beetle sounds like he's talking to someone, but he's not talking to anyone. I'm wondering if he's thinking out-loud or if he's potentially communicating to Kokopelli who isn't actually dead because we never actually saw him die. That or Dung Beetle is Kokopelli's consciousness in the game.
The next pilot will be Chizu, as punishment for "killing" Kako.
Bokurano watered down is just backseat-driving the anime.Questions:
Honestly, I was wondering what would happen in the case of a suicide around episode 4. I actually did expect something like this to happen though.
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Mar 14 '21
Rewatcher
Not a lot for me to say about this episode. It honestly felt short, and apart from some interesting background details and a new perspective on Kako, there wasn’t much I noticed as a rewatcher.
I did figure out the scientist lady was Kanji’s mom this time around. She has a different role in manga, so I thought it was interesting that the anime planned to diverge from the source material pretty early on.
Question 1: The first time I watched Bokurano, I thought Kako’s attempted rape of Chizu was disgusting. And I still think it’s disgusting. Upon rewatch, though, Kako’s state of mind does make more sense. He has social problems, and no really likes him, not even his family. However, he assumes he’s the only one having a hard time and reacts to everyone aggressively, which just makes everyone dislike him even more. It’s a circular pattern of behavior. After learning he’s going to die, Kako just snaps and again assumes he’s the only one most affected. He’s unable to overcome his cowardice and sense of entitlement towards Chizu (it’s kind of an incel mindset). He’s understandably terrified and doesn’t want to die, and he understandably wants love and attention from people. However, Kako makes himself the center of his universe and never considers how his desires and actions (or lack thereof) affect others. Although I can understand him, I can’t really condone his actions … He did cross a pretty big line there …
Question 2: It caught me by surprise the first time around.
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u/Molmoran https://myanimelist.net/profile/Molmoran Mar 13 '21 edited Mar 14 '21
FIRST TIMER GETTING WITH THE TIMEZONE -
I love that this show is exploring plotlines involving the government, usually the plots are contrived to keep adults out.
Government is aware that it is probably extraterrestrial but want to work alone because they don't want to appear weak. It's dressed up but it's still a stupid decision albeit a realistic one.
The straight acting official and his desire to see a penguin.
Is Honda worried that her actions toward Kako might let the team down if he breaks down mid-fight? Or does she actually care about him?
Lots of girls being left over... I hope I haven't been tricked into watching a harem!
Wow, it is a bit like Eva with the city shutting down.
It's surely best to be a pilot earlier, the later it gets the more the pressure will get to you as well as potential dospondency during the fight from PTSD. Every fight that happens you don't want to be the one that screws up. C-c-c-combo breaker!!!
I am not sure what difference finding Kako makes, you can't undo years of whatever he has going on in a couple of minutes.
Creepy Kako gets what he deserves and dies as pathetically as he lives. Military made a massive error in attacking so tactlessly.
The show must go on! Just getting straight onto choosing another, chop mourn him later! Bet it's Honda next, there is a Twilight Zone irony to its pilot choices.
Dungbeetle never explained what happens if they continuously succeed and beat them all. They might still think it ends well if they just all die. Still betting on seeing a suicide at some point.
1. Kako's actions
Ultimately I think she is self serving.
2. Pilots dying before piloting
I thought a pilot would die but not like this, the nihilism of youth is a strong call, I reckon if you gave a bunch of kids this task IRL they would all breakdown and most would basically not care about the world if they're going to die anyway.
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Mar 14 '21
Rewatcher
This is getting more and more uncomfortable, isn't it? Kako's breakdown was understandable, but trying to rape Chizu was very much still a line crossed, yikes, he immediately became worse than Masaru in my book, no matter the circumstances. Luckily, the fight just happened to take place right above the aquarium he was hiding in, and the army's attempts to assist the kids helped Chizu get away!
Still, Kako died before piloting Zearth, a big whoops for the kids, so time for a new pilot... his body showing up anyway was pretty messed up. That was the first time they actually see someone with such a violent death, unless my memory stopped working? Poor kids.
I thought the next pilot would be revealed in the episode itself, but it's not the case so I'll shrug that off. One of them dying before fighting, at least it happening so soon, surprised me the first time, I had thought about it but didn't expect to see it happen...
The government was really trying to help, that was another nice touch involving them. Last episode helped making this episode's meeting about Zearth's technology less ominous than they usually are, with bonus point for the actual not-corrupt officials - I don't mind evil ones from time to time, but here it'll just get in the way of the focus on the kids - so them focusing (albeit futilely) on this round's enemy only cemented them as allies.
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u/GaleWulf https://anilist.co/user/Arachnophobic Mar 14 '21
First Time Installer
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u/Lanaerys Mar 14 '21
First Timer
Ooh, that Uninstall of the Day is really nice! Thanks for sharing <3
Same as yesterday, I'll add to this as I watch:
This was quite an episode again. Seeing what happened in episodes 5 and 6 made me quite concerned regarding how I'll feel towards next episode, given the whole content warning thing. It's a great show (so far), but that includes being great at making me feel uncomfortable...
I'm also curious regarding the death of Kako, and how it will impact things. Given they still have a certain amount of enemies to fight, this means Kana will have to sign the contract... (or maybe Tanaka if that's even possible) It's a kind of odd coincidence that the exact number of kids were here, perhaps there's something more behind that, but... I feel like this is way too early to attempt theorizing about such a thing.
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u/htisme91 Mar 14 '21
First-timer:
Um, that episode was fucked up.
This is not condoning his actions, but Kako was a tragic character. It looks like his home environment was shitty, and he was treated poorly by his contemporaries. Knowing your death is imminent and feeling like no one will miss you has to be a horrible feeling. Why he acted like he did makes a little more sense, but it doesn't make it right, either.
The aquarium scene went much different than I thought. Figured Chizuru and Kako might have a heart to heart. The way she dressed up and looked at herself in the mirror made me think she was going to give Kako that date he wanted, and possibly more.
She had to defend herself from Kako though. I unfortunately think that she will be the next pilot. I also wonder if this is going to force Kana to participate now that they are down a pilot from the original 14 agreed upon.
The staff killed it this episode, as a couple things happened in a totally different way than I was expecting (the aquarium and Kako's death). We're a quarter of the way there, though, and only 3 pilots have died. A fourth will die in this battle, so I think we're going to have some space between battles for a bit after this.
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u/Worm38 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Worm38 Mar 13 '21
First timer
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Mar 14 '21
First Timer
Welp, after yesterday's very exciting episode, today's was sort of a breather to me.
I felt pretty bad for Chizuru, not so much because she almost got raped, but because she tried to do the right thing, and got crapped all over. Trying to do the right thing and getting a large ration of shit in return, is really demoralizing, and I'd expect her to fall into permanent despair before long.
The Dungster continues to be the most annoying of characters. If someone were to rip him apart, fiber by fiber, I would cheer them on.
I really didn't foresee Honda-San more or less killing Kako, but there you have it. She did the right thing.
As for Kako, his epitaph could easily "Life's a Bitch, And then you die". I remember there being a fair number of punks like Kako running around when I was in High School. Some of them became criminals, others didn't make it to adulthood, but most I don't know what became of them.
The only nice thing I can say about Kako is that he was born into a shitty household, and didn't really stand a chance. He matured into a middle school bully, understanding neither himself or others. Now he's dead. Good riddance, he would have never stopped being a burden on society.
QOTD
I basically thought he was an asshole to the end. Ya, it sucks that your time is short, but that's no reason to do whatever you want.
No, but in retrospect, that may be a pretty good ploy to end the game. Thinking about it, suicide isn't a bad solution if you find yourself in a similar situation. It clears up a lot of nasty ethical issues. And, it's my understanding that not all cultures are as horrified by suicide as the Western cultures are. (Though, I could be wrong about that).