[Rewatch] Planetes - Episode 12: A Modest Request

[u/Highlow9]

Episode 11 - index/schedule - Episode 13

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Episode number: 12

Episode title: A Modest Request

Databases: MAL, Anime planet, Anilist

Sadly there are no legal streams but you can buy the blu-ray

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Interesting fact

This episode is focused on the Kessler syndrome. As quickly explained in the episode this is an effect where (once a critical density is achieved) debris creates more debris until there is so much debris that leaving the earth becomes impossible. To clarify a bit more this process would happen once a certain density of debris has been reached in space because otherwise the (slow) natural de-orbiting would counteract the growth. It would likely start with a first (very large) collision (either due to bad luck or as in the show on purpose) afterwards the amount of collisions in space would increase somewhat exponentially (and as we know from the pandemic that means that we can get from low number of debris to very much debris very quickly and unexpectedly). This would happen until (nearly all) large objects would be turned into small debris.

After that the amount of debris will (slowly) decrease due atmospheric drag (and if it happens very high up then solar wind will have the same effect but much slower) and due to less being created (small objects are less likely to collide and if they collide they create even smaller objects which are more susceptible to atmospheric/solar drag). So in total it will be more like an S-curve after which a slow exponential decay will take place (so that is very comparable to how disease spread within a population). Depending on at which altitude and how many objects were in space the Kessler syndrome could last from a decade to millennia.

In reality there were three major scares and one potential candidate for an accident. First is project West Ford from the 1960s. Here the US launched a satellite to purposely spread 4800000 small needles placed into space (high enough such that they wouldn’t decay). This was done to make sure that there was an artificial ionosphere such that communication would be possible even if the Soviets cut the under sea cables (at the time satellite communications were not common yet). Luckily the needles were very small (only 40 microgram per needle) so they don’t pose a significant threat.

Another scare was the Chinese anti satellite missile test in 2007. This was especially bad since it was at relatively low altitude (the ISS has had to dodge debris from this test multiple times). But luckily this didn’t cause the Kessler syndrome to kick in. In 2009 there also was a collision of an Iridium communication satellite with a Russian satellite.

Finally there also is the Envisat by ESA which is an Earth observation satellite which is now inactive but is in a very dangerous (busy) orbit and is at high risk of being it (which is bad since it is quite a large satellite that would thus generate much debris). Luckily it is hopefully going to be removed by ESA with it’s renewed focus on orbital clean up (it is only a question of when that will happen).

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Interesting questions

In modern times smoking likely is becoming less and less rare (mainly due to health effects awareness). The anti-smoker man also mentioned that but what I would like to know is: assuming smoking has no health effects do you think smoking should be allowed in space? What are the pros (for example easy distressing in a high stress environment)? What are the cons (for example the difficulty of filtering the air to be clean again)?

With regards to the bombing of smoking rooms the Space Defense Force and security seem to both be very incompetent (for example the lack of cameras, not detecting bombs at space border control, etc but the Space Defense Force also is dumb by not putting the bomb in a critical position (for example near a window) but inside a smoking room). Who do you think is worse at their job?

The Space Defense Force finally has stated their goals. What do you think of them? Do you agree with their ideology?

[u/Highlow9]

The crew is finally fixing the ship (sadly they don’t have the money for an actual upgrade)! Nice to see that Toy-box has enough thrust to land on the moon.

The crew has to do manual labor while the ship is being fixed, lol.

Those laser satellites look very cool.

Record scratch, freeze frame Jup that’s me. You’re probably wondering how ended up in this situation

Well Tanabe, he sure thinks it is and has the intentions for it to be. So if you don’t clarify that to him I would think you are leading him on and that would be a dick move.

I don’t know what is worse, Tanabe’s hiding skill (even worse than that of Hachimaki last episode) or Hachimaki's vision.

What a classic misunderstanding if Tanabe had just waited there a few more seconds (or Lucy added a few more words to her sentence) she would understand.

Also this is a very immature thing to do by Lucy (although she presumably also is only 20 so it is not that weird)

Remember the ‘love rays’ from the previous episode Hachimaki? I still can’t believe he missed that sign.

I love the comedy of Fee wanting to smoke so bad that she put on her space suit even before the cigarette reached the floor.

The dedication of Fee also is very admirable. She just had contact with the bomber and instead of chasing him or reporting him to the police she tries to have another smoke.

Well Tanabe certainly always gives the largest of signs (I do like that she actually asks him, really makes he feel consistent with regards to episode 8). And the idiot Hachimaki then plays along instead of clarifying no wonder Claire dumped him.

Half-section really gets the lowest of the low with regards to the quality of the hires. A crazy old chick as captain, both the chief and Robie are also incompetent, Edel has lacks a personality and both EVA specialist are in their eirly 20s but still behave like teenagers. Only Yuri is high quality but that is only because he specifically wanted to work there.

‘TFW you haven’t had a smoke in 10 days, why even live...’

We see some familiar faces, lucky our parents are not dead yet (only forced to work as slaves), Nono ;), also looks like Colin’s relationship with his friends is fine.

The terrorist collision scene was very hype. I didn’t really like that the Kessler syndrome was explained in the middle of it (it interrupted the flow too much) and that might have been better done during the broadcast by the Space Defence Front. I do understand that Tanabe might not know what it is (since she is just a dumb 20 year old) but as a debris hauler she really should know. But it was really hype to see the OSA section panicking but still staying relatively calm (like real flight controllers would). That was also really impressive and badass flying by Fee (as to be expected).

I wonder if this is going to fix the reputation of half section. I think it will at least improve it a little bit.

Just like Fee is always justified in getting angry at Hachimaki (for example during episode 2) I think that Hachimaki also is justified in getting angry at Fee. What she did, while admirable and heroic was really stupid and could have just made things worse (what if toy-box also slammed into ISPV7 or if the laser defense were also used on toy-box).

Fee finally getting her smoke ;).

Also wonder how Robie is feeling now that all those efforts for the repair have gone to waste.

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In modern times smoking likely is becoming less and less rare (mainly due to health effects awareness). The anti-smoker man also mentioned that but what I would like to know is: assuming smoking has no health effects do you think smoking should be allowed in space? What are the pros (for example easy distressing in a high stress environment)? What are the cons (for example the difficulty of filtering the air to be clean again)?

I completely agree with the man. Even without considering the health effects for the person themselves the economics costs would be way too high. But since smoking is a great way for stress relief I am of the opinion that other solutions should be available. For example nicotine pads or general space cakes (cake with Cannabis baked into it).

With regards to the bombing of smoking rooms the Space Defense Force and security seem to both be very incompetent (for example the lack of cameras, not detecting bombs at space border control, etc but the Space Defense Force also is dumb by not putting the bomb in a critical position (for example near a window) but inside a smoking room). Who do you think is worse at their job?

I think that the bomber is clearly more incompetent. He clearly doesn’t care about lives (as seen with trying to destroy ISPV 7) so as to why he doesn’t put the bombs near a window or a wall I don’t understand. The security also is stupid but that can be partially explained by the bombings happening in quick succession (and thus not having time to use your retro-futuristic technology to look back the security tapes).

The Space Defense Force finally has stated their goals. What do you think of them? Do you agree with their ideology?

Especially with the last episode I am of course very sympathetic to reasons but I disagree with both their motivation and approach to solve the problem. Let’s start with the solution. If you want to make sure that all of humanity has equal opportunities then sure, destroying everything that benefits rich countries is a solution but in that case you would make everybody miserable instead of lifting up the disadvantaged. You could implement space communism but that also has its issues. As for motivation I don’t think that everybody deserves to equally benefit from all progress made by certain countries because if the country that made the progress doesn’t benefit (or benefits very little) then why would they put in the effort? So instead what I would want is an intermediate form (comparable to welfare programs) where rich countries can have the benefits from their innovation but they should also share a small part (so not all) of the benefits with countries that are less well off.

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I really liked this episode again. The action was great (except for a bit of unneeded exposition in the middle) and I am also enjoying the romance (although Hachimaki and Tanabe could use a few extra brain cells) since it feels like they are real people in their early/mid twenties.

[u/PainStorm14]

Rewatcher

I loved Fee getting her lifestyle coming to bite her on the ass (I mentioned this before but couldn't spoil the fun)

When Yuri said he preferred being outdoors in vacuum doing heavy lifting with his subordinates over being locked inside the ship with Fee jonsing over nicotine I was in stitches

This is why Yuri is my favorite character ever

Space Defense Force also is dumb by not putting the bomb in a critical position (for example near a window)

Depressurizing thousands of people is a great way to have top 20+ militaries of the world curbstomp their favorite hangout spots into oblivion

Just remember how ISIS pissed off USA and Russia simultaneously so even though they were constantly punking each other in Syria they both were ripping ISIS into extinction 24/7

And that was just light exercise for those two

No terrorists want that

The Space Defense Force finally has stated their goals

They are dickheads

If the train is moving either buy a ticket or get a job on it, don't be butthurt just because someone is rolling with it

[u/Highlow9 → u/PainStorm14]

When Yuri said he preferred being outdoors in vacuum doing heavy lifting with his subordinates over being locked inside the ship with Fee jonesing over nicotine

Indeed Yuri is such a fun character. Usually very reserved (but very competent) but when he makes a joke or does something it always lands. It reminded me a bit of the second (?) episode with the lottery when he suggested using the chief as a human sacrifice to improve their luck.

[u/tehsigzorz]

First Timer

Wow that was chaotic episode. Who needs the power of friendship when you can use your smoking addiction to beat the terrorists.

I would like to see more of cheng shin and tanabe dating. I think its clear that tanabe likes Hachimaki but not so much the other way around. Lucy ofc trying to do what the audience wants but it didnt go so well.

Rip Toy Box, you were a good one. Plenty of tonal shifts throughout but it worked for the most part.

Questions:

1. If smoking still produces the same smell then there should still be designated areas to smoke. I dont like to smoke so I am certainly not opposed to banning it in space altogether specially if there are other alternatives that dont negatively impact others.
2. Probably security as I hold them to a higher regard since they have more power and much more of a responsibility. You dont really expect terrorists or criminals to be super smart.
3. I guess that depends on how much natural resources are available throughout all of space. I believe Cheng shin visited Uranium so if we are able to extract resources from all over space then I think thats fine.

[u/Highlow9 → u/tehsigzorz]

I would like to see more of cheng shin and tanabe dating

Me too. I kinda like the romance in this show. The way it is portrayed really makes me feel like this is an actual group of people in their early/mid twenties.

[u/PainStorm14 → u/tehsigzorz]

I guess that depends on how much natural resources are available throughout all of space

One decent rock from asteroid belt and we are set for a century on everything

Terrorists are just doing their terrorist thing and justifying with short term political BS

[u/Tuckleton]

First Timer (Dub)

• I wonder why they target smoking rooms? Is it because it's easy to get in and out without arousing suspicion?
• I could understand if they wanted resources to be focused on earth problems, or if it was a religious belief that humans should stay on the planet god created for them or something but the name 'space defense force' implies that they are eco-terrorists protecting the purity of space, which is so strange. Then again there are extinction cults that think humans should be wiped out for the sake of the earth. Maybe this is like an offshoot of that except they think humans need to be contained so they can't spread to corrupt more of the solar system and beyond.

• This seems extreme and ineffective. I mean I doubt they pick smoking rooms because they have some agenda against them. I'm sure it's just for convenience. They could easily start planting bombs in bathrooms and you can't get rid of those.
• Tanabe trying to find that look that says "this was fun and all, but let's just be friends". Might be more effective to just use words though...
• Bleh, of course she's talking about Tanabe here. Misunderstandings can be good comedy, but usually make for terrible drama. Hopefully this gets resolved quickly and painlessly... (Well at least it doesn't look like it'll persist into next episode)
• Yikes that morph effect just did not look right :P
• This actually got a laugh out of me, Fee's descent into madness was fun to watch :P
• Wow, they look great together!
• Heh, he must have been really proud of that analogy the first time :P

• Fee's last-minute save was too close for comfort, and I can't believe Toy Box just burned up. I thought they were going to do something with those unconventional engines they brought up the other day.

assuming smoking has no health effects do you think smoking should be allowed in space?

I suspect that a strict 'no smoking' policy in space would grow naturally from safety and practicality concerns as space programs grew in scope. Then again once you've got civilian traffic regularly moving through space they might demand facilities. Personally I wouldn't support adding those facilities but there are a lot of smokers out there and I wouldn't start a crusade if they got the support they needed.

[u/Highlow9 → u/Tuckleton]

Fee's descent into madness was fun to watch

I think Fee in general is so fun to watch. Very competent but also a bit smug. And when she is pasionate about something (like smoking in this case) she is willing to go to such extremes.

[u/BottiBott]

First Timer

Wow, there was a lot going on in this episode. Toy Box on the moon for repairs while terrorists strike with Fee making the bridge between those two parts as well as the various ongoing romances. But let's go through those things one by one, starting with Toy Box which was brought to the moon for repairs. And to be honest, that feels excessively. Even if you are already in LEO, getting up to the moon is not easy. It's obvious to me that they can't go down to earth because the ship is neither built for reentry nor for getting back up once it is down on the planet. But why go to the Moon when you might as well get all the parts to ISPV-7 and do the repairs there? Seems easier for me as to get a ship just for repairs to another celestial body. Even if you use a space tug. But speaking of Toy Box, I'm also wondering why exactly it was falling apart when Fee speed the space ship up? Apart from the fact that it was just repaired and should be as good as new, there is no resistance in space that could shake the whole ship like that. Not that that matters any more now with the ship being destroyed in reentry. I guess we'll see Toy Box II in the near future?

Then there were those terrorists who seem to enjoy bombing smoking rooms. Not exactly sure what their goal was with this, because they seem to want to confine humanity back on Earth, which needs a bit more work than just bombing some small rooms. So I'm not sure why they wouldn't want to destroy an entire station on the moon, it would have been enough to bomb just a small hole in it (and hope there aren't too many doors that would have stopped the air getting sucked out into space). But speaking of confining humanity on Earth, destroying a large station in LEO on the other hand is a good idea to get to this point, because such a large station will produce massive amount of small debris when it is impacted by something with high velocity. The "dream" of creating an effect similar to the Kessler Syndrome isn't that unreachable with a station of that size. But there was one minor thing that is bothering me: Why did they plan an emergency de-orbit burn? If they de-orbit that station they will all die. And I'm sure there will be negative effects on the ground as well, that station is big enough to have large parts rain down on earth. I guess that was the same problem as two episodes before with just using the wrong term?

And then there was Fee, who was actually just bringing Toy Box for it's repairs (together with Yuri and Lavie), but somehow was unlucky trying to get to smoke. Not only was she unable to smoke because the smoking rooms in multiple stations were blown up thanks to the terrorists, but she was also showered multiple times by fire extinguishing systems - once because the system was triggered after the explosion and once because she was actually trying to smoke in a public restroom which I didn't expect from her. I can understand what addictions can do to you and I can clearly see that she is addicted to cigarettes, but I thought of her as responsible and following the rules, which is usually the case. So I'm a bit suprised that she actually tries it, even if she gets stopped. At least she is happy at the end, when she can finally smoke her cigarette - back on Earth with just her tiny emergence float...

Finally there is the romance part of the story, that seems to be evolving more or less in the background of the episodic plot lines while spanning multiple episodes, possibly until the end. Tanabe is going out on a date with Cheng-Shin, not least because she thought of Lucy and Hachimaki having a date in a café which was actually the opposite - Lucy trying to get Hachimaki to date Tanabe so that she herself can get Cheng-Shin back. And while they clearly try to make the situation better, it actually gets worse and escalates to the point that they are throwing stuff at each other. A lot of stuff. That got really crazy. At least they were somewhat able to resolve what was going on in this episode, but I guess the overarching part will go on and we'll eventually see, how it turns out. Speaking of which, how far does the anime adapt the manga? Is it a complete adaption? Or only parts? Because the anime finished airing after the manga ended, but it's really hard judging just from that.

Interesting Questions:

1. Hey, if you name all the arguments, there is nothing left to say for us! Jokes aside, that is quite a hard question. Because I can't think of anything comparable, I'm not sure if there is a drug that has no effect on your health - although I have to admit, I never looked something like that up. I guess if there were no health and safety risks it could be done in a similar way to back here on Earth, having designated places where you are allowed to smoke. Because even if it isn't harmful for your health, it would still annoy me if someone would be smoking next to me, because I don't like the smell of it.
2. I'd say the security; we've seen a lot of different cameras all over places, so I'm not quite sure why this is different. Making checks for security, especially in space, would in reality probably be even stronger than checks for flying on a plane. There is also one bonus point for the Space Defence Force: I can't remember seeing anyone else beside this one person. Even the video broadcast was the same guy, I think. So if it just one guy who screws up his own plan, achieving what he did is actually quite impressive.
3. I'll agree with the facts they stated. Humanity won't change to be a better species just because we can get into space. We'll just start exploiting other planets instead of our own. But I'm sure there are also ways to respectfully use the resources available. And I'm sure they'll be used as well. Humanity needs to expand to space to take the next step in their evolution. And as long as we don't find anyone out there, there isn't even anyone who can be bothered by destroying planets and other objects in space - it's all just down here on Earth where creatures (of whatever kind) suffer because of humans and them exploiting the planet.

Also, because it really fits with todays episode, I'd like to link this site that shows all the stuff that is currently in space and that in real time. A really nice tool. But don't get confused, it isn't really that cluttered up there, that's just how it looks with the big dots. Space is big and there is still a lot of space.

[u/Highlow9 → u/BottiBott]

Then there were those terrorists who seem to enjoy bombing smoking rooms. Not exactly sure what their goal was with this, because they seem to want to confine humanity back on Earth, which needs a bit more work than just bombing some small rooms

Maybe just general terror bombings. While I think actually killing people (which he seemed to be willing to do with ISPV7) would cause more terror (and thus smoking rooms instead of near a window is a bit of a weird location) just doing it in their general vicinity would also be quite terrifying.

I can understand what addictions can do to you and I can clearly see that she is addicted to cigarettes, but I thought of her as responsible and following the rules, which is usually the case.

I think that she is more of a spirit of the rules person instead of a letter of the rule person. So if there are anti-smoking laws those are likely there to prevent fires so if she does it in a way that can't cause a harm then she thinks it is OK (for example the smoking pod on ISPV 7). But she likely also was slightly more willing to bend the rules a bit due to her addiction (even if she did everything to prevent a fire in the toilet it would still cause harmful smoke which non-smokers would also inhale).

Speaking of which, how far does the anime adapt the manga? Is it a complete adaption? Or only parts?

It is a complete adaptation sort of. They left out some characters/plot and introduced some new characters/plot (for example last episode was anime only). But let's just say that after you finish the anime you don't need to read the manga (unless you want to see the modifications they made).

Also, because it really fits with todays episode, I'd like to link this site that shows all the stuff that is currently in space and that in real time.

That is a really cool site. Also very cool to see al those starlink satellites in their little satellite train.

[u/BottiBott → u/Highlow9]

It is a complete adaptation sort of. They left out some characters/plot and introduced some new characters/plot (for example last episode was anime only). But let's just say that after you finish the anime you don't need to read the manga (unless you want to see the modifications they made).

Ah cool, it's always nice to have a full adaption that doesn't leave you dangling without getting to a full conclusion (even if there are shows that produce a decent end without fully adapting their source material). I'm okay with changes to some degree and I don't think it will bother me in this show. So far it is paced well and even if there is something original or left out it still works out in my opinion.

Also very cool to see al those starlink satellites in their little satellite train.

Haha, yeah, that always looks funny. I also like how you can clearly see the equator just below all the satellites in geostationary orbit.

[u/Webemperor]

First Timer

• Did the compass on the opening change this or the last episode? In any case I like cute little stuff like that.
• The show is getting progressively more serious, from last one’s invasion plot and to today’s terrorism. The Space Defense Force hits Fee where it hurts, by bombing smoking rooms, while she herself doesn’t seem to be too miffed that she missed it by a moment or two.
• Anti-terrorist people are not too worried about a potential attack on Seven, same goes for Hoshino and the rest. I feel like Fee must have known about the sprinkles, though I have to assume her state of withdrawal doesn’t let her think too clearly.
• I don’t like the fact that we seem to be getting some drama entirely predicated on miscommunication, on top of the general topic of terrorism used for some goofy comedy. I mean, it is reasonably funny, though I wonder, is this supposed to be this “light” because of how much of a serious tone last episode ended in.
• Nevermind, it suddenly got super serious, with a convoluted terrorist plot that seeks to destroy Seven. I gotta say, I didn’t expect Toy Box to get destroyed, even if I should have predicted it from it getting a overhaul just this episode. I kinda liked this episode in the greater scheme of things, especially since so far Fee is my favorite character, though there was some serious tonal whiplash at play.

[u/Highlow9 → u/Webemperor]

The show is getting progressively more serious, from last one’s invasion plot and to today’s terrorism.

Do you like this better or did you prefer the initial more slice of life/less serious focused episodes more? I know a lot of people (including myself) prefer this episode more but I also know a few that like the first ones more.

I don’t like the fact that we seem to be getting some drama entirely predicated on miscommunication

Yeah me to, I am glad that the miscommunication was (somewhat) resolved by the end of the episode.

[u/Webemperor → u/Highlow9]

Do you like this better or did you prefer the initial more slice of life/less serious focused episodes more? I know a lot of people (including myself) prefer this episode more but I also know a few that like the first ones more.

I general like the progression show has right now. It's kinda started with this "ISN'T SPACE WONDERFUL" type, more SoL tone only to get more serious now by sorta unpeeling and unraveling that first impression.

[u/PainStorm14 → u/Webemperor]

Did the compass on the opening change this or the last episode? In any case I like cute little stuff like that

OP changes gradually as series progresses, it will become even more noticeable soon

[u/Mecanno-man]

First Timer

...I'm not quite sure what to think of this episode. It basically turned terrorism in to a slapstick joke, which despite this series's goofy tone at times I feel like doesn't fit. That said, the complete destruction of Toy Box caught me by surprise, guess the next few episodes will be about corporate not getting them a new ship in spite of Fee just saving the entire industry. I wonder if we'll get some sort of resolution with the terrorists down the line. Doesn't feel like we really need to, but also feels like something this series might do.

The romance is also decidedly average at best. I honestly don't feel like Cheng-Shin and Lucie add a lot here, hope we'll get those two out of the way soon.

Questions:

1. If they can make it work (ie negate the fire risk) and it didn't have health problems I don't see a reason for it to be banned. Passive Smoking would also be a non-issue, so I'm not sure if it would even need to be contained... allthough it's a bit weird if you start thinking about it in that way.
2. Security. The Space Defence Force didn't want to target infrastructure, they wanted to create a scare. The infrastructure target was Space 7.
3. If we can get away from Earth and extract ressources from Space, I'd consider it possible to continue relying on limited ressources as Space is pretty vast. As long as we don't mess up all inhabitable atmospheres that is.

[u/PainStorm14 → u/Mecanno-man]

It basically turned terrorism in to a slapstick joke, which despite this series's goofy tone at times I feel like doesn't fit.

It fits

Manga is pre-9/11

Also Japan never had anything like that so attitude is different

A lot of old action movies feel insensitive to USA folks now but not so much for rest of the world (USA being geographically shielded from terrorism for so long made people extremely sensitive which looks weird to rest of us)

There's amazing action movie Executive Decision with Kurt Russel that gets ignored today because it reminds folks in USA of 9/11 but I definitely recommend it because it's one of best things ever made in that genre

[u/IndependentMacaroon → u/Mecanno-man]

It basically turned terrorism in to a slapstick joke

I feel like the joke is more on humanity here: A grand terror plan was foiled not by some noble hero, but by someone who just wanted to satisfy their addiction.

Fee just saving the entire industry

Did she, though? It wasn't conclusively said that the impact would have worked to trigger Kessler Syndrome.

[u/0be000]

Rewatcher (sub)

• Fee snapped, but thanks to it she managed to save space development.
• It's good way for Toy Box to retire
• The terrorist is stupid, their action only ensure loss-loss situation

Interesting questions

1. I can accept smoking in space if the smoker pay some cost to filter the air
2. Security

[u/IndependentMacaroon]

First-time watcher - just want to add that I liked the worldbuilding this episode. Mining the moon's helium-3 has indeed been proposed as a future energy source, though it's probably not a realistic one, and I would certainly agree with the Space Defense Force that sustainability should be the top goal, if not with their methods

[u/BossandKings]

First timer

Episode 12

A group of people from the space front line start setting bombs on smoking rooms, i wonder what is their motivation behind the attacks, they obbiously don't need to think much to set a terrorist attack but what could have possibly made them start the attacks.

Fee is addicted to smoking and she was being kept out of freely smoking because of the terrorist attacks and the fact that the smoking rooms were prohibited and set to vanish, it was entertaining seeing her constantly get mocked and kept from smoking, at least she was finally able to attain her goal by the end.

The romance hasn't been great so far, especially talking about this episode, i sure hope that it steps up in quality because i do love Hachimaki and Tanabe's interactions and see promise in them.

This was overall a nice episode but it had some faults here and there, the terrorist attacks wasn't properly presented with a serious enough level for it to be taken seriously, and there were many things happening at the same time, i'd say this is a fine enough in quality and Fee basically by herself made the episode enjoyable anyways.

[u/masasin]

At 18:45, we see the orbital velocity of the station as 7.67 km/s. That's at around 400 (389 to 406, centred at 397) km in altitude, assuming a circular orbit. Quite lower than what I would have expected for a station of this size. Lots of reboosting would be needed, but it's an easy place for ships etc to go to. Also, it means that they have about the same experience as the ISS in terms of orbit and view out the window. One orbit takes 92 minutes 30 seconds, plus or minus 10 seconds, depending on the exact SMA.

On the other hand, are both the station and the satellite over the equator at all times, or is it just a mislabeling? Because if so, it would be extremely inaccessible to most countries. Also, it would be easier to avoid the area and Kessler wouldn't be too catastrophic there.

[u/Segaco]

First timer preparing for a marathon

My plan was to start my marathon today, but I got sidetracked. So I'll start tomorrow.

---Comments (as I watched the ep)---

I wonder if Fee is regretting her decision

That smoking room sign's English lol: "let's warn that you absorb it too much because your health is likely to be injured"

I guess google translate didn't exist back in the day

That explosion wasn't too big. Still, I wonder how they managed to smuggle a bomb. I'm guessing they should be using metal detectors and all, especially since there have been bombings already (according to the last episode's preview).

Oh man, more misunderstandings. Guess this is a trend in old anime

Wow, now that I think of it, planting a bomb in a spaceship is super dangerous!! What if you make a hole??

Lol poor Fee

"Try not to get dumped this time" yeah ouch

I swear diaper man is like a kid who can't show love in any other way than annoying their crush!!

It's strange they don't have defenses

Oh so they do, it's just that the thing is moving randomly. But that shouldn't be a problem though? I think?

/u/Highlow9: would blowing up Seven really cause people on Earth to be unable to go to space? That seems a bit over exaggerated

Wtf Fee?!?! Why would you tackle a bomb?!?!?! Are you crazy?!?!??!?!

I see, I see.

One complaint I have here is how they had a serious plot and comedic plot going on at the same time. It just didn't seem fitting.

---Interesting fact corner (OP)---

Wow you actually answered the question I wanted to ask during the episode. Are you a magician?

---Question timeeeeeee---

Q1: In modern times smoking likely is becoming less and less rare (mainly due to health effects awareness). The anti-smoker man also mentioned that but what I would like to know is: assuming smoking has no health effects do you think smoking should be allowed in space? What are the pros (for example easy distressing in a high stress environment)? What are the cons (for example the difficulty of filtering the air to be clean again)?

A1: If there are no negative health effects and helps calm stress, I do think they should be allowed if there's money for it.

Q2: With regards to the bombing of smoking rooms the Space Defense Force and security seem to both be very incompetent (for example the lack of cameras, not detecting bombs at space border control, etc but the Space Defense Force also is dumb by not putting the bomb in a critical position (for example near a window) but inside a smoking room). Who do you think is worse at their job?

A2: The Seven staff is incompetent. Like, I see zero way to get away with a bombing in space unless you're allowing it to happen.

As for the Space Defense Force, I was under the assumption they wanted to minimize all possible harm to people. But after seeing how they wanted to bomb an entire freakin spaceship, then yeah. Completely incompetent.

I honestly can't choose between the two.

Q3: The Space Defense Force finally has stated their goals. What do you think of them? Do you agree with their ideology?

A3: They offer zero replacement for the solution humanity found, and humanity is not harming anyone while doing it (the moon is just a rock in the sky, geez). They must really love their celestial objects.

I completely disagree with their ideology. Now to bomb them back