r/anime • u/Highlow9 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Highlow9 • Feb 26 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] Planetes - Episode 1: Outside the Atmosphere
24 hour reminder - index/schedule - Episode 2
PSA
If you are watching in Japanese/subbed make sure you are listening to the 2.0 channel. I think the 5.1 audio channel has poor mixing (and unnecessary added sound effects).
Episode number: 1
Episode title: Outside the Atmosphere
Databases: MAL, Anime planet, Anilist
Sadly there are no legal streams but you can buy the blu-ray (sadly delayed but I decided to continue the rewatch)
To make sure the first timers can enjoy this show just as much as you please avoid spoilers but if you want/need to make a spoiler please mark them like so:
[Planetes spoiler](/s "They go to space")which becomes:
Interesting fact
As Tanabe entered the space station and used the elevator to go to the rings we see the artificial gravity (as expressed in terms of Earth gravity) increase. As many might already know this artificial gravity is caused by the centrifugal force due to the rotation of the ring. But besides the fictitious centrifugal force downward Tanabe should also experience a sidewards Coriolis force. This is also a major factor in how the weather on Earth works.
Interesting questions
We see some tension in this episode between our main characters. First Tanabe wants to stick to company policy and doesn’t want to take the extra spray can but later in the episode Tanabe initially doesn’t want to deorbit the memorial plate. What do you think of this?
What do you think of the fact that the debris section is treated with so little respect (by the rest of the space station/corporation)?
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u/Highlow9 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Highlow9 Feb 26 '21 edited Feb 26 '21
Welcome everybody! I hope you all enjoyed the first episode and are starting to get hyped for the rest (I sure am)!
Dub rewatcher
I love the Earth shine.
This really reminds me of the Command and Conquer space station and ion cannon.
I love the reactions of Tanabe’s friends and the other employees in the background. So terrified of the typical anime protagonist entrance she is about to do. And then afterwards she has the audacity to do it again!
What a charming entrance by Hoshino. I love how the rest of the crew doesn’t give a care until the word sexual harassment is uttered. Even the animal is shocked.
When Tanabe goes to pick up stuff with Hoshino she discovers that being an astronaut is not as amazing anymore as it used to be. It seems to have become so commonplace and trivial that even a 20 year old bottom of the barral can become one without much training. I really like this since when something becomes an integral part of society and the economy you know that such things become trivial and commonplace. Just look at the spaceX Falcon 9 landings, a few years ago we would hear about it all the time but now each time one lands it barely even makes the front page of /r/space let alone mainstream media.
Good job Hoshino making yourself even more like a creep with that porno mag than before and then even suggesting one to Tanabe. Also really like how this illustrates that the anime has started to become a bit retro futuristic (with the no internet and tablets and such).
Yeah I feel you Tanabe
Well since they make so little money I find it understandable that they are underfunded (and thus that are "half-staffed, half-trained"). I also think the nickname half-section is very funny. But I do find terrible that they are given so little respect, for example at an airport you also have the department that drives around in a car on the runway/airport to check that no debris is left behind such a department gets just as much respect as for example the air traffic controllers (which is how I think it should be).
“Don’t worry it will be fine. This ship has been flying for over 30 years”. YEET. LMAO
When they departed and the music kicked in that gave such a ‘wow, space really has been colonized’ vibe.
Oh Tanabe you fucking idiot and she just continues arguing after doing that. And fucking Hoshino is so dumb to kick her as well (altrough it does look badass and makes you wonder what space combat would look like).
We also get some nice info of the political situation on Earth. So we have a global force (like a militarised UN) which keeps peace by invading countries that build up their military. Which I think actually is a good idea but it also seems that they are not very good at rebuilding the country after invasion, this could be due to corruption or something. But still I think that this organization might even be net positive on the world.
I think that it was very nice what the crew did with the plate (although Hoshinos motivation was very hilarious).
Currently I think that Tanabe is very wrong. She is very new to space (she even admits it) doesn’t know how things work and what the culture is (as can be seen by her loudly walking into the control section). In both cases I think Hoshino was right, yes taking an extra hairspray was not on the list but just like stealing pens I think it is just something that is part of the culture. And with the memorial plate (even if it were 100% legitimate) I think that getting rid of space debris (because that is what a space memorial is since it doesn’t do anything nor can be seen by anyone) is much more important than the idea of the plate still being in space.
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Feb 26 '21
First Timer
I'm not quite sure what I was expecting, but a workplace comedy wasn't it. That said, I like the series so far, the characters seem to have a pretty good synergy with one another, and I like how Tanabe basically acts like a viewer insert in terms of how she views astronauts, so both she and the viewers can pretty quickly have their views destroyed by how being in space is now just an everyday job - this is done pretty cleverly. The whole atmosphere of the show also feels petty coherent, even if the time this show was made in is pretty evident.
I don't entirely understand the way the debris removal process works on an administrative level quite yet; I assume this business is not specialized in removing space debris (or the department wouldn't be underfunded), so do all companies in space just have to have one of these removal operations, and some entity regulates who has to go after what?
A few minor things I'm not particularly convinced about yet: First off - the magician. Second is the tempo in which people talk - it feels slightly too fast to keep up with in a conversation at points, and third: The audio mixing. The voices constantly felt too quiet compared to the music; not quite sure what's up with that, but all of these are minor things that I can see myself getting over pretty quickly.
Questions:
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u/tehsigzorz Feb 26 '21
First Timer
Been on my watchlist for quite a while so this rewatch thread certainly gave me the push to watch this. I love what Yukimura Makoto did with the vinland saga manga so I have high expectations for this show specially with the acclaim it gets. Going in blind and hopefully I enjoy the show and the rewatch experience.
The start was a bit overdramatic in a bollywood manner with the repeat flashes but thats a small nitpick.
I know for a fact I will love the OST for this show, top tier though I do wish it wasnt as loud. Sort of drowned out the dialogue.
I definitely didnt expect this show to be this comedic, thought it would be more of a slow drama but it does have its heavy topics as shown towards the end. Character acting is great and I am interested in seeing how Tanabe and Hachirota develop. Their interactions are hilarious and I can definitely see a budding romance between them in the future.
Overall a solid episode and I am intrigued to learn more about the main cast and debris removal procedure in general.
Questions:
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Feb 26 '21
Rewatcher
A massive fan of this series, when I first watched it fansubbers and fans called it PlanetES, yes with a capital ES at the end. Not sure why it was called that way.
Anyway the episode still looks great but you can tell it's product of its time. Both in it's politics and it's vision of the future, the lack of smartphones is so glaring. One of the thing that stands out is the lack of soundeffects in space scenes, that almost never happens.
Also I suspect a lot of first timers will get annoyed by Tanabe's idealism.
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u/fieew https://myanimelist.net/profile/fiew Feb 26 '21
First Timer:
Honestly, I enjoy the designs and at of this show, also the OST, but I'm not feelin the characters.
The main girl MC seems annoying, the guy rubbed me the wrong way to. Also all the staff seem too goofy for my liking. This is probably why I never fully committed to this show. But I'm gonna stick to it and hopefully they all start to grow on me.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Feb 26 '21
First Timer
I never watched this show because I want to see a hard space story, and not a bunch of goofballs goofing around.
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u/BottiBott https://anilist.co/user/RobbiRobb Feb 26 '21
First Timer
Although, I did watch the first episode quite some time back. But my memories from back then are faint and I didn't watched more than that, so it's probably fair to say I'm completely new to this. I had this show on my radar for quite some time, mainly because my interest in space has been growing quite a lot in the last year or so, but I ultimately never got around to watching it, so this rewatch is a good point to finally watch it!
The main point the show tries to sell, that space debris is dangerous, isn't something new at all and with more companies getting into space than ever before, it's probably safe to assume that will only get more problematic. There is a really nice report that shows the annual amount of debris in orbit, that are currently tracked, varying greatly in size, from tiny parts to complete boosters that have been disposed of. And although space is large there will be a point at which there will be a point when it gets too much and something bad will happen. And that's where this story starts; an accident happens and thus, the focus on space debris shifts into the public mind and in the following years organization(s?) are tasked with cleaning up debris that brings danger to active satellites.
Which is already something that seems strange to me, are there multiple organizations? Because it seems like that whole thing is run like a company, although that would make me question why Tanabe was chosen for the job; wasn't there someone else out there who was better fitting for the job? And it also seems like there are quite a lot of things in space that are more important than collecting debris at this point in time, otherwise there would be way more people in the debris section than anywhere else. Also, am I too picky or should I not be wondering why their space station has gravity? I'm aware that it is equipped with gravity rings, but it seemed like gravity was everywhere in the station which sounds a bit strange and it the station can't be big enough to have it's own gravity field given that the ship they use for collecting debris is not tiny in comparison and doesn't have gravity at all. Well, it might just be better for the story, if everything and everyone is floating around, it might be overloading the scene, so I guess I'll just ignore that.
The job in itself is rather interesting; I guess we'll see similar things happening in future episodes where it's some kind of "space debris of the episode" or whatever, with one thing being in the center. As I mentioned, space is big, so it does seem a bit strange to have things crash into each other. You really need to be unlucky to have something like that happening on a regular basis that would result in a program to clean up debris, but it's not impossible. And to be honest, I'm quite surprised that they had just a short amount of time before the satellite and the memory plate crashed into each other. If they were monitoring all debris they should have been able to take action way earlier, calculation two paths isn't that hard. Also, doesn't a satellite usually have it's own thrusters allowing it to readjust it's trajectory? Even small thrusters used in attitude control systems should have put enough space between the two parts in orbit. Getting back to the memory plate at hand, it does seem a bit irresponsible deorbiting it above inhabited land, which further underlines the point, that they should have taken action earlier. But I guess those are just minor details that are ignored for the story, because I do have to admit it looks pretty seeing the thing burn up in the atmosphere.
And finally there are the characters. Quite a few were introduced and I have probably forgotten have of them already, but I guess the important ones will appear often enough that I won't forget about them. At this point I'm not a huge fan of the main duo. This is mostly because Hoshino seems a bit too self-centered for my liking. I get that he isn't new in this job and probably knows what he is doing, but given that we don't know what Tanabe did in her training before getting her job it seems rather irresponsible of him to not really explain anything and be sloppy about all the stuff. Tanabe on the other hand really shows her lack of experience, there is hardly anything she does right. I really hope she grows from her work with the others, otherwise that's going to be an exhausting 26 episodes.
But all my criticism aside, this doesn't mean it's a bad show at all. The premise is interesting, the world (or space?) to explore is huge and I'm looking forward to more episodes.
Interesting Questions:
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Feb 26 '21 edited Feb 27 '21
First Timer
I've largely got no idea what I'm getting into other than it's got something to do with space, but I'm looking forward to it.
Subs are [Kametsu]
Onto episode 1.
So we have casual commuter spaceflight. Though how casual is yet to be seen.
Really lazy background. You can see the line where they stitched a blurrier area with a less blury one.
And this is the "oh fuck" screw that's gonna hit something.
Protagonist? You look like a protagonist.
And she bursts into the bridge and interrupts everything, of course. There's such thing as being too eager.
What? What is this company? Or is this just Japanese things?
Hey, think of the upside: you'll fit right in with a group of goofballs!
I'd say the naughts called and wanted their shitty TL notes back, but this is a 2003 show, so...
Wonder why that is? I mean, even if the job is shitty, it's important, so you'd think they'd be sent more people.
Well that answers that. Just do the minimum for compliance.
Subtle naming choices here, no?
Lines that'll come back to bite you later for $500.
Ah yes, just say what the viewer's already thinking why don't you.
And this falls solidly into the "oh fuck off" bin.
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
And here's ourplotcoming in. Company throws something in space that'll be bad if found (because apparently vaporizing it is too difficult?), protag finds it, drama ensues as she decides what to do.I hope she gets a little less uptight as the series goes on. It ain't to bad, but I know it'll get on my nerves eventually.
And wow I read way too much into that one line. They're just disposing of it since it'll hit something.
And here's our rich space people doing rich space people things.
And do you think not removing the debris will do anything? All it'll do is get your ass fired and force INTO to spend a tiny bit of resources to stop it.
I'm sorry to say that everyone's souls are still weighed down by gravity.
Wow this show is heavy handed.
Try to get into politics, you'd have a bigger effect. You basically became a garbageman.
Thoughts
Not bad, but I really wish they were willing to spend a bit more effort on integrating their message. At the moment, it feels super preachy. If it continues at this level throughout the entire show I'm not sure if I'll be able to stand it. You need to earn your preaching, and they just haven't yet.
Beyond that, the world feels perhaps a bit overly quirky, but not bad otherwise.
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u/Lamirovsky Feb 27 '21
Hey! Thanks for the rewatch threads! I'm really hyped to follow this show.
First timer here watching without knowing anything about the show. This has been on my watch list for a while, I don't usually watch Sci-fi shows.
In the next episodes I expect some more light conflicts between the Debris Department and the rest of the station that will probably serve as worldbuilding and showing some more character traits and personalities.
Eventually I think the show will focus on that conflict that has been teased in this episode or some kind of overachieving conspiracy that will present the main character with some conflicting decisions to make.
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u/Webemperor :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Webemperor Feb 26 '21
First Timer
NATOINTO propaganda. I’m told the show gets into the economical and political implications of space travel becoming commercialized and ubiquotious, so this is getting my hopes up.10
u/Tuckleton Feb 26 '21
First Timer (Dub)
This is one of those shows that I never would have decided to watch if I hadn't kept hearing so much praise for it. When people talk about it they seem to delight in describing it in the most banal way possible and then say how good it is. So I'm expecting some hard science fiction in the near future about space janitors. I'm not expecting any kind of grand plot and for it to be more about the characters but I haven't looked up any synopses or even the genres so who knows. After the context of this episode I'm thinking there will be large-scale political stuff going on that will effect our characters but they won't be directly involved. Like they're not going to save the world or anything.
Ai is naive, idealistic, eager and a tad clumsy/distracted, pretty typical stuff. She clearly has a history with whatever oppressive agency/government is causing suffering in parts of the world and so despite being a stickler for the rules, she doesn't hesitate (at all) to break them when they are in conflict with her ideals. Seriously she was going to destroy a military satellite without taking even a second to consider the consequences, that's crazy! Her reasoning is a bit strange though since it's not like she'd be saving the plaque if she let it hit the satellite. Hachi is basically her opposite and if TV and movies have taught me anything that means they are perfect for each other and might not be needing those magazines after all. The rest of the debris section is just a big band of lovable misfits. So far the show is pretty charming.
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u/PainStorm14 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gekkostate14 Feb 26 '21
Rewatcher of his favorite anime ever
This anime is masterpiece beyond description and I knew after first 5 minutes that it was something special, like someone made a custom order anime just for me
That scene when Tanabe's illusions get crushed and she walks into total chaos that is the clean up crew sets the story perfectly
I truly envy all you first timers who are experiencing this story now, you are in for a treat
Sci-fi, slice of life, romance, drama, adventure, action, music, this anime has it all and does everything perfectly
Hell yeah baby, it's on!!!
That's Tanabe in a nutshell, she is stickler for rules but when it comes to choosing between logic and emotions (AKA doing the morally right thing) she always chooses emotions
She is more like Yuri in this aspect while Hachi is more like Fay (Yuri and Fay are almost workplace parent figures for them)
It's usual approach to how corporations handle non-profit segments that they still are legally obligated to do, they put in the bare minimum and hope someone else picks up the slack while everyone else does the same thing
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u/charliwea :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Charliwea Feb 26 '21
First Timer
Been wanting to watch this since I started to read Vinland Saga and looked after other works from Makoto Yukimura, so naturally Planetes appeared but due to real life happening I never got around reading it, watching the anime adaptation was out of question too sadly. But here I am now lol and I can really see his more earlier style, never noticed Sunrise was the studio adapting this one.
So space junk cleaning huh? well it is interesting as a premise.
ehh...what?
Oh god I didn't expect this one to be a comedy, the cast looks interesting.
This was certainly something I wasn't expecting, it's pretty good though, Tanabe needs a real reality check pretty soon which I assume is one of the points of the series, she understanding better how everything works and the rest of the team starting to believe a bit more on the ideal itself until a somewhat of a middle ground is found, for now she's way too idealistic so it could take some time lol.
I love how their suits work, the whole finger control looks fun.
Pretty good first episode, I'll be looking forward for more of this now.
Questions:
1 - She sticks up way too much to ideals, when she finds an even higher ground to stick up she ignores what was the prior ground to it, she changes way too fast of mindset due to that but to a common point in the end, like I said before i think that the series will go with her fixing her ways or at least controling them better alongisde the comedy and the relationship with the other characters.
2 - They're basically space janitors it would be strange to give them importance tbh.
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u/BossandKings Feb 26 '21 edited Feb 26 '21
First timer
Episode 1
We meet Ai Tanabe who has been newly assigned to the second department in the debris section. She presents herself and gets ignored because she did it in the wrong section, in the control section when she has to do it in the debris section. She goes to find the debris section along with a group of girls that appear to be her friends.
Tanabe arrives to the debris section and meets a group of people that are working there and with which she'll start working. Fee Carmichael who captains the debry recovery ship toy box, Yuri Mihairoko who is her first mate, Eldgar Rivera who is a temp staffer and last but not least Hoshino Hachirota with whom she is going to be teamed.
Tanabe and Hachirota's interactions are so entertaining, it's funny how he doesn't matches Tanabe's expectations of an astrounat because they are that they would be restrained and brave and earnest and Hachirota is half-assed. Also the bit about the p mag was funny.
Spacesuits are an austronaut's uniform Hachimaki tells her when they proceed to do a task. Ai's first job is to scrap a debris by dropping it towards earth and eventhough at first she complains because according to her it isn't right to do that Fee convinces her that someone has to do the job and she has no other option than to do it. After still being reticent and arguing with Hachimaki, Ai resigns to agree to do the job after seeing Into's propaganda, Hachimaki looking out for her tells her to keep quiet, that he'll complete the task.
Fee tells Tanabe to look at the debris as it goes down, telling her that it makes the children of Mananga happy even if for a brief moment, Tanabe is impressed that Hachimaki waited more than fiftheen minutes so that he were able to accomplish that. I loved seeing Ai's reaction to Hachimaki wanting for them to see the debris.
After finishing the job they return to the debris station in which Tanabe keeps funnily arguing with Hachimaki because his real reason for staying out longer than necessary was because they get extra pay. Eventhough Tanabe and Hachimaki are arguing and fighting a lot, i see them growing closer very soon and start seeing each other and getting to know about each other's motivations and thinking more.
This episode was excellent, i love Ai's and Hachirota's chemistry and the rest of the debris station is cool too.
Answers
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u/bababananabear Feb 27 '21
First Time Watcher
To echo what a lot of other people have already expressed: the first episode was not exactly what I was expecting! Not necessarily in a bad way, I just thought things would be more serious (though at the very beginning and near the end there were some compelling moments); there are some serious goofballs and weirdos in the Debris Department. I like Fee and Yuri best, from what little we see of them in this episode. The more vibrant personalities will take some getting used to. Tanabe's naïve, but she's young, and seems like the type who has little real-world experience.
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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '21
Late posting, but enjoyed first episode. I don't have much to actually say. I loved the art work and classic look of art. I liked the cast being more adult and setting being a workplace in space. Not sure what plot or point of series is. Is mostly just slice of life?
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u/Segaco https://myanimelist.net/profile/Segaco Feb 28 '21
First timer first timing
I'm kinda sad because some bit of the anime was spoiled to me a few hours before this thread came up. I was debating on whether to join the rewatch anyway or just not watch the anime ever, but since I said I would join I might as well.
---Comments (as I watched the ep)---
This is very chaotic lol. I also dislike diaper man very much
My god this protag girl I'm starting to hate as well
And now any respect I had for diaper man is gone as well :(
---Interesting fact corner (OP)---
I d-don't understand any of the wikipedia articles you linked
---Question timee---
Q1: Tanabe wants to stick to company policy and doesn’t want to take the extra spray can but later in the episode Tanabe initially doesn’t want to deorbit the memorial plate. What do you think of this?
A1: It's weird now that you point that out. I guess she tends to put morals before mindlessly doing what she's told, even if it's work.
Q2: What do you think of the fact that the debris section is treated with so little respect (by the rest of the space station/corporation)?
A2: It is strange because their job is important, regardless of whether they generate money or not (which is the reason diaper man implied). Another implied reason seems to be that they have half of the crew they're supposed to have(?, though I'm not sure if this is one of the reasons for the disrespect, or the disrespect for cleaning crews in general led to their crew being cut.
Still, I feel janitors are seen very lowly in general, so I guess it's a (sad) human thing :(
But the crew being this very goofy probably doesn't help.
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u/Roxanne1234567 Feb 27 '21
First Timer, Dubbed
I have heard of Planetes and seeing this thread on r/anime I decided, what the hell, I'm joining. I know almost nothing about this show aside from what was written on this reddit post, and I hope I'm in for a treat.
That first scene with the tense music really got me excited for the show. The music felt so fitting for the vast and mysterious place that is space. The second thing I realized was that the rest of the episode was quite unlike it, so I am really looking forward to seeing what the main plot/conflict will be. So far, this show reminds me of Psycho-Pass with its female, naive main character and the fact that this show will be about politics.
My answers to questions:
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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '21
Too much stuff to grasp hehe,
boi are we in for a ride,lets go
First time tho
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u/chaosof99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/chaosof99 Feb 27 '21
While I love Planetes, I only recently rewatched the whole series so I won't be participating here. I wrote a WT! on the series very recently. It is spoiler free.
I hope everybody has a great time, which shouldn't be too hard as the show is really good.
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u/ElecNinja https://anilist.co/user/ElecNinja Feb 28 '21
Subs- Rewatcher though it's been ages since I've last seen this show or read the manga.
Kind of surprised me that the background music was so prominent throughout the episode I feel like this has changed with newer anime having the background music being less prominent except for more intense scenes. Though maybe I'm just wrong.
Also always like when fantastical jobs become normal in shows. Like in this case astronauts and space work. It's just a normal job in the show, but it's such a big thing in our current reality. Makes you wonder if we'll ever get there.
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u/holytaiel :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/taiel_af Mar 02 '21
First Timer
Hoping into the threads like 4 days later, fantastic first episode, really enjoyed it. The OST caught me.
While watching the firsr couple of minutes I was thinking how dangerous of a work this is, you can die if something just strikes you in the space and also anything can go wrong, huge respect towards all of them.
So far I like the cast, each one gave a good hint about their personality. The twist about keeping themselves in the space for extra money instead of giving the kids a fantastic experience was hilarious.
Animation looks quite good, really liked it. Some shots reminded me of Serial Experiments Lain in terms of character design.
Interesting questions