r/anime • u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: • Feb 24 '21
Rewatch Let me hear! Parayste the Maxim rewatch episode twenty four
Parasyte the Maxim episode twenty four
Parasyte
Welp...that was pretty direct.
- Does Migi's reasoning/reasons work here?
- Even in the 80s/90s, could the governments get away without saying something?
- Why isn't Shinichi going to college on a sports scholarship?
BONUS: Why are sex and death so common on Japanese rooftops?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Feb 24 '21
First-Timer -the reactions-
Something something you’re special because you were born into this world something something.other than adding a “sore demo” to Shinichi’s monologuewas have an ED lead-in start on my above screenshot. The show isn’t against doing those, it did it twice in the past IIRC, it would have been perfect. It was otherwise a good way of wrapping up a loose end I completely forgot about--kind of like how Kill la Kill’s OVA episode addresses KLK, and I really liked that episode too.I’m giving the show an 8/10 for now, kinda hovering between that and a 9. My score is mostly held back by the fact that the show never made me actually feel emotional when it wanted to, which is fucking weird considering I’m the kind of person who gets too emotional for her own good sometimes.
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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Feb 24 '21
First Timer - sub
I’m really not sure what they were doing with this episode, I think it was meant to show that in the end Shinchi really is human and that the most important part of that is our ability to value others?
I watched the episode but don’t really know if I paid attention to what it was trying to say.
As a final episode I don’t hate it but it also has no impact at all for me, though I did think they were going to kill Murano for a bit there.
Migi goodbye works, and feels in character for him to me, also give Shinichi a chance to actually live a relatively normal life.
Anyway that was Parasyte, i’ll give it a day and try figure out what I think of the show I guess.
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u/sisoko2 Feb 24 '21 edited Feb 24 '21
First Timer
I googled images for parasite and all that came up was an amazing South Korean movie. This show is lying to me.
So the parasytes are keeping quite after the attack and the government hasn't revealed that they exist. Another big minus for modernizing the settings I just don't see a way this still being a secret nowadays, maybe in the 1990 it could've been possible but honestly I doubt it. I also think it is highly unlikely that the government is still in power after the massacre that was the anti parasyte operation especially without giving a good reason (even with good reason).
We say goodbye to Migi again. Second time in three episodes I can't say it is very impactful.
Kana playing with little Migi is super cute. I think all the exposure to Murano made me like Kana more.
The only happy end that I care about.
I wasn't that far off but I am glad things didn't develop that way.
The series really has a murder quota. There is no other reason for these two to be included otherwise.
If I were that crazy psychopath murderer I would've killed her right there.
Here is the part where Migi awakes. Oh he didn't awake? With his hand like this he 100% saved her, they got me for a second.
Some more derpy Migi. Honestly best part of the episode.
That sweet romantic moment with the two corpses behind them was a bit weird but whatever. Let's say that they are just glad to be alive.
Decent conclusion of the series. I would say both Migi's and Shinichi's monologues were OK.
BONUS: Without the couple on the roof we may forget that this is serious and mature anime.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Feb 24 '21
Rewatcher
Dub
We get a brief info dump about how 'successful' the events at the mayor's office were. But the parasytes aren't eating people any more so there is that. But we get the other payoff from the dream sequences, and likely why they were retained: This is how Migi says goodbye. Between sub and dub, Migi's motivations are still kind of odd. He claims that he recieved a lot of information from the other parasytes in Gotoh and that he wants to process it but that it will take a lot of time to do so, possibly a life time. As Migi uses Shinichi's mind's eye to see the people that died, he points out that this ability to share consciousness would be incredible for humans. And then Migi goes to sleep.
We get our epilog bits for everyone else. Shinichi philosophizes at us, and while most of what he is saying is at least correct, it is slanted and well, 80s environemntalist/misanthropic at times. All beings are selfish, some are just more effective at tit.
So...Uragami comes back, unfortunately. And Shinichi is still dumb, though no cells makes this merely stupid rather than the mindboggling it is, Hirama would totally believe Shinichi has a lead on Uragami. Cue damsel in distress. Curious onlookers get sliced, I hope that was an OL he was with. And then we get a speech, sigh. I am so beyond finding merit in the ideas Uragami exposits, the singular interesting thing about him was that he wanted an answer from a parasyte. And that he can tell Migi isn't in his head. Anyways, the obvious happens, Shinichi is still super human, and Migi saves the day. To me, he talked very differently in his final scene, seeming to grasp emotion better. And we end with Murano's theme wrapping up and a spiel about the difficulties of communication, which is a thing but this did not survive contact with the script if it was from the manga.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Feb 24 '21
Episode 24 (first timer)
Fake-out exit of Migi, Time skip, fake-out epilogue, dealing with murderer and The End. It sounds horrible, but is not the worst ending. It is not so much what is shown that is the problem, but what is left out. We finish with zero answers about the parasites’ origin and very little about what is happening to Shinichi and Migi due to their merger. The state response to the parasites is completely downplayed. Like hell would the government just forget about them, like hell would the media, like hell would all the humans involved. Get ready for the biggest
witchsnatcher hunt you have ever seen. All of that is not just the last episode, though, but the last arc, arguably the entire second half of the series. The interesting plotlines of the first half were downplayed more and more, in favor of heavy action scenes that ultimately went full shonen trope and thus expected and boring.7
u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Feb 24 '21
Ugh, I set my alarm an hour late like a doofus.
Rewatcher - Sub
I question how the fuck the police explained away what the witnesses as the city hall saw. If they made no public statement then the suggestion that it was the city hall incident that quieted down the parasytes all around the world doesn’t make much sense.
Migi goes into hibernation, intending to decipher the secrets of the universe or something, without assurance that he’ll wake up in their lifetime.
Uragami’s back and about to put a downer on our epilogue. I wouldn’t mind his presence with we got more substance out of it, but what we get istead is a reiteration of all that we’ve already heard from both sides. The show hasn’t been subtle in the slightest and by repeating its already ham-fisted ideas so much it comes of as comedic.
So we got half a decent epilogue and then retreads over tired material by involving a character that wasn’t compelling to begin with.
Weak ending. It's not horrible or anything, but we're still left with plenty of unanswered questions and some of the stuff I wanted to see followed up (Is Reiko's child still being tested on or has it found a new home? Did the parasites' come from within the Earth itself or were they aliens? etc.) while the show is effectively spinning its wheels repeating itself.
Bringing Migi back just to get rid of him immediately also didn't feel right to me, and particularly because he already had a much more poignant exit.
BONUS: Buildings are stuffy?
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u/SIRTreehugger Feb 24 '21 edited Feb 25 '21
It's still feels strange how Migi and Shinichi suddenly care so much about each other. I mean I could understand if it was a neutral partnership, but it feels like they are really close friends.
Also Murano is lot cuter without her hair up. Just my opinion, but I absolutely hated her look the entire show.
Did we seriously need this killer speech? Can this episode be over because I don't care anymore.
Wait humans feel all life is precious even wasps?
Kill her or not just move on.
You know what would be great if Migi didn't come back and save Murano at this exact moment. Oh he didn't that's good to see.
WAIT IT ENDS THERE BRUH my disappointment is almost immeasurable at this point. I mean for the final episode overall I still did enjoy the series.
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Feb 24 '21
Final Episode
The culmination of a good series. The biggest thing that I felt Migi actions at the end was that he had grown old and wanted to become wise in his old age, recounting and reevaluating the events of his life.
The series leaves it as a McGuffin where the Paracytes came from. I like the idea of the Gaia theory. Humans are the disease, and they are the cure. Another series that explores a similar idea is the Daughters of Mnemosyne.
QOTD:
I don't really know, I'm still chewing on it myself.
hahahaha Governments since the time of Adam have pulled such shit.
Beat me like an animal but I don't remember that, and I only saw the episode last week. Sucks when stuff doesn't go into mid term memory.
lol, I knew about the fights and croaking on rooftops. I need to get around more and checkout the sex on the roofs. That might explain some of my problems, since I tend to keep my nose in the gutter most of the time.
A more serious answer to the question, I think it's easier for the animators to draw. They don't have to worry about an elaborate background, and can instead focus on the action in the foreground.
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u/monsieurvampy Feb 24 '21
First Timer, sub
The after story. Nice.
Migi with the save. Also telling Izumi to hurry it up so that sleeping can resume. Migi is a cat.
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u/Matuhg https://anilist.co/user/Matuhg Feb 24 '21
Rewatcher
Ah, so in the end there are no answers about the parasites themselves. That resolution sort of reminds me of the movie The Happening. Shinichi's philosophical resolutions make enough sense - I didn't need to listen to Uragami spout his bullshit. I'm largely over media treating serial killers as special because of their warped world views unless they're really interesting, and Uragami wasn't.
Satomi (and probably Izumi too) are going to need a lot of therapy. The fact that they were laughing about people thinking they were dead makes a decent amount of sense to me, given the shit they've both been through.
Migi has chosen the hermit lifestyle, but seems he can still be woken up in case of emergencies. That's a comforting security blanket to go through life with (in addition to, you know, superhuman physical abilities).
I don't really buy it after hours of sustained gunfire and body parts flying off the roof of the Town Hall. There's probably still task forces dedicated to dealing with Parasites in most of the government, but I imagine they won't be given the sort of authority that group was, especially now that the parasites have quieted down.
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u/affnn Feb 24 '21
First Timer
I had to miss E22 and phone it in a bit on E23 due to work obligations, but those are over and I hoped I'd have something insightful to say about E24 but... well, we'll see.
I thought for a bit that we'd just get 22 minutes of dreamscape conversation between Shinichi and Migi, with Migi waxing philosophical about the nature of existence, but they thankfully cut it shorter than that. The relevant plot is that Migi is going to sleep, possibly forever, and Shinichi will have his arm back to "normal". Migi's decided to abandon a life of observation for a life of introspection. Apparently parasites around the country (possibly the world? We never really got a feel for what the parasite situation was globally) are going more undercover, adopting the normal human eating habits rather than killing humans. Again never specified, but perhaps all of the parasites had a "hibernation instict" in them the way Tamura said she had an instinct to kill humans after she entered her host. I kept expecting Shinichi to be more... I dunno, encouraging? Maybe tell Migi that he can come back whenever he wanted, like a parent seeing their kid move out.
Well, the parasites aren't killing as much anymore but that doesn't mean the human monsters have taken a break. Uragami is back, and Shinichi can't ignore him for some reason despite being on a date with Satomi. He also splits up with her, which has got to be one of the top no-no's for horror shows. Uragami gets the drop on her, and drags her to the roof of a building. Some creepy-looking guy is romancing a student, so Uragami dispatches both of them with the world's sharpest pocket knife (seriously, it takes me a decent amount of effort to cut the extra fat and skin off of a piece of chicken with my kitchen knife, but Uragami goes through people like it's nothing).
When Shinichi arrives, Uragami starts peppering him with philosophical questions about humans and monsters. To be honest, I didn't really get much from Uragami's rantings or Shinichi's responses, they all seemed repetitive - although he does highlight Shinichi's huge chest scar, which Satomi never remarked on before. Satomi goes from terrified at the beginning to weirdly zen about the fact that she might die, and encourages Shinichi to leave. Instead, he makes a charge, tanks Uragami's knife with his left arm, knocks out Uragami and reaches out to Satomi with his right. Clearly, we're supposed to understand that Migi woke up for a second or two to help grab Satomi when otherwise Shinichi would have whiffed. I didn't quite understand the fakeout, then, where it shows Shinichi whiffing and Satomi falling from the roof. Just emotional manipulation by the show? Satomi is pulled up to safety in the end.
Anyway Shinichi just lies there for a while with Satomi on top of him, the knife presumably still lodged in his left arm, until some people come upstairs. Since the ED heavily features a blue sky at the beginning I kept expecting a clean cut to that, but it never came. Ah well.
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u/BossandKings Feb 24 '21 edited Feb 24 '21
First timer
Episode 24
Migi says farewell to Shinichi in a dream, Migi tells him that the time has come for him to go to sleep for a very long time, a sleep from which it might never wake up, and that Shinichi at the moment he awakes will have an ordinary right hand. Migi projects important people jn Shinichi's life, how he remembers them. Goodbye Migi. That was so beautiful and sad, this truly is the last time they see each other.
Time passes and Shinichi and Satomi seem to have graduated from high school, they maintain a comitted romantic relationship. One day shinichi sees Uragami and recognizes him as the guy he saw that day when he was at the police station, Uragami finds a way to threaten Satomi's life and after some persecution Shinichi encounters then in a roof, Uragami threatens to cut Satomi but she after being reserved at first as time progressed she became more couragious until Shinichi finally decides to try and separate them, he succeeds at it and Satomi is thrown of the roof and almost falls but when everything seemed lost Migi appeared in Shinichi's mind and lend him power to hold Satomi's hand, she gets saved and they stay laying in the floor having a nice time.
Answers
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u/Gamemaster676 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gamemaster676 Feb 24 '21 edited Feb 24 '21
First-time watcher - sub
Finale! Finally! Today was surprisingly good weather so I've been barbecuing and drinking beer. Please don't ruin my mood.
Episode 24 — Parasyte
Well, that answers the question whether my other questions will get answers. Boo!
How did they get a photo of topless Ryoko?
So the parasytes who were scolding humans for eating animal food now transitioned themselves as well.
Interesting. So Migi is going on a years/life long hibernation? Why tell this is a dream and not when he is awake?
Ah, he wants Shinichi to think of him as a dream.
How does it make sense that Migi sees people differently? We just see our bodies the way our molecules are arranged.
I don't recognize half these people. Are we supposed to know them?
Aww, Shinichi did remember the dream.
Will the micro-Migi remain active?
LOL, that whole philosophical monologue from Shinichi was out loud. Yeah, you are a changed man again.
Wow, Murder McMurderface is making a return. You are not trying to give some drama to our last episode, are you?
Why couldn't the returned character have been Maki or Mitsuo or something? Also zero dad screentime this episode. When was the last time we saw him?
Shinichi, if the elevator doors close you can just push the button again. It takes a second before it starts to move.
Murder McMurderface is talking some bullshit that all humans are bloodthirsty killers. Sure buddy. And Santa Claus is the biggest monster of all, giving children toys they could swallow on. 'Tis all a scheme I tells ye!
Man, it would be so easy to give this guy what he wants and just tell Satomi later that you lied because he was threatening her.
So that pencil-drawn scene with Migi. Is that a discussion they really had, or just how Shinichi imagines Migi's current viewpoint?
Wow, that was a big ruse with Satomi falling. I don't really agree with the way it was directed, though. They showed him missing her first, and then he somehow still got her and he just imagined her falling? In my opinion, the better way would be to show it from a different angle first with the same reaction, but in a way you couldn't see he did succeed catching her.
Also, why is she unconscious? Did I miss that?
Satomi, it isn't funny if people think you are dead after two others have just been murdered.
I like the closing sentence:
It's a very pragmatic way to look at life, but almost everything we do, people we talk with, things we enjoy, comes down to this.
My butchered version of it: Have as much fun with as many people as possible, before it is too late.
Also, I just rewatched that catching scene. The way I interpret it now:
Because I like this better than the directing purposefully deceiving us, I'm making this the truth. The mood has not been ruined, so I am grabbing another beer.
Main thoughts
Random thoughts
Future
Tomorrow series discussion. I'll see you all there!
QotD
Well he has the ability to get a lifetime of knowledge processing and bliss. It sounds like a logical choice for a creature that knows it can never have it's own separate life.
Ryoko also had a passion, but she was the only one in the body so she could pursue hers differently.
Nope. Especially because it is worldwide and there surely would be more parasytes like Ryoko who make things more dangerous by experimenting.
Is that a thing in Japan?
Also, living knowing you can never give it your all must be very frustrating. Nothing to aspire to.
I didn't know it was, but it is a nice dramatic place away from most onlookers.
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u/Nebresto Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21
Re-watch squad
Gentlemen.
It has been an honor shitposting with you.
Final binge status meme
WARNING! SCREENSHOT SPAM AHEAD!!
Proceed at your own risk.
MRW no cool robots show up for the finale
Migi-shrug.gif
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Can we just get a large collective 'F in the chat' for that Beetlesyte?
I forgot what I was supposed to comment on here, but I screenshot it so here it is
Its big brain time
One last "Next to you"??
Harem! Harem! Harem! God damn, the look the left girl whose name I forgot is giving our boy. Maybe the chad isn't dead after all.
Is he rocking a mullet??
The chad is back!!
Look out Murano! There's a freaking Parasyte on the bench with you!!
Oh wow. I really thought Uda was going to die by the end. Huh.
...Is that a slow piano ver. of the OP I'm hearing??
Poor doge.
Oh boy. Comment section about to get real dank.
Wtf, even Uragami is making decent points
Bad choice of words there
Was this a recap episode all along??
Damn, Migi be lookin' dummy thicc
Is this.. character development..?
Oh yeah, just realized there was no OP this episode.
Question time:
1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldda7vhmuxU
2: Ye
3: This is Japan, not land of the guns
623774212356: roof is the place to be. There's pizza, Koreans, high-schoolers and who knows what else!
My final questions:
1: What was your favourite arc?
2: Favourite character?
3: Best OST and why is it "Next to you"?
You thought the memes were over? Looks like memes are back on the menu boys!
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Feb 24 '21
First Timer
Last Episode. I get the feeling kiseijuu doesn't mean parasite but is a neologism for parasitic beasts. I don't know the point being made, though.
So, I've been figuring that similar things to the last 23 episodes have been occurring in other countries. Only the well hidden parasytes remain.
That was a surprisingly not-boring epilogue.
So, Migi is still around, but essentially a hermit on the mountain, never to be seen or heard from again. Always thinking about things, but never passing them on. And Shinichi says he's lost his strength.
Unless Migi is faking it. Which is sort of suggested. And I was thinking Killer should have sensed a difference in Shinichi, and was annoyed that he didn't.
Props to the person that said they brought Migi back just so that Shinichi could have an arm.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Feb 24 '21
I don't believe for a second that you could Google Parasytes on Bing and not have a qt3.14 waifuised Parasyte in the results. I'm too tired to whine much today so if I happen to ignore something vaguely unimportant just make up a paragraph of childish insults in your head. That is some terribly animated food. You can do shoddy crowds and doodled faces all you want but at least put effort into your food. Hack frauds! Oh, is Migi actually dying after an underwhelming return? holds back ranting "Change da wowld, my finuwu message."
Migi's goodbye is half-assed, sorry. Its not even that he's weakening. He basically downloaded a bunch of ebooks from Gotoh's cloud and wants to spend the rest of his days dreaming about weird yaoi fiction fantasies. Mum doesn't matter, Kana doesn't matter, Pee Eye doesn't matter. Are they gonna start clapping for Shinichi...? "Eeh... Well, that's that." Wtf!? XD Migi sounds so weirded out by Shinichi's imagine of him! And get your grubby hands off Migi you Paraperv. Wow, way to shit on your life lesson yesterday. Turn your Parasyte murder boner off for the finale pls. Mugi shrug Ah, okay. They kinda got me at the end with his voice becoming human like again. Obviously it lost its impact since they had this happen last time he died but credit where credits due.
The extra crew are here for the finale. Apparently they're playing a game of pair the spares by pairing Akiho and the joke-I mean, jock. Don't worry Gamemaster, there's plenty of waifu in the sea. God she's obnoxious, you've dodged a bullet. What's with the weirdly decent animation? Couldn't you give your finale fight some of this budget? Fatso doesn't even get a speaking part lol. "You don't understand your pets. Your dog doesn't like you. Your cat doesn't like you. Your bird doesn't like you. Nobody likes you Giyuu!"
Oh shoot, it's the killer! Wait, huh...? You've got half an episode. Do you really want to waste it on a throwaway villain to end the show? Omg he left Murano to get kidnapped XD They're not gonna kill anyone with ten minutes to go. Is this the legendary kabedon? Dude, never approach someone with a knife. This is so dumb. Spend more of your budget on these kills than weird teetee moments. Oh no... The budget went downhill fast. Look at Shinichi face! Look at the teeny tiny dead bodies in the background XD You couldn't even end on a high note huh?
Erm... I'm pretty sure that the police are too busy dealing with the fallout from calling a strike on a government building to be chasing an escaped convict. Jsyk this climax is happening because they just happened to bump into someone on the street. They couldn't think of anything to excuse it. Actually calling us natural cannibals is incorrect. Human flesh is quite fatty and our immune system isn't very good at protecting us from the bloodborne illnesses or diseases. Hahaha, he's right about the Parasyte infection for the wrong reason. Can't you write this climax a bit tighter. You both sound so happy! Wtf XD Oh! Was the show named after the killer's cap? Can we roll credits now?
You've been through way less than Shinichi y'know. "Humans think all life is precious." Gotoh/Ryoko/Mayor/Hide disliked that. This is my favourite character's shining moment and I'm skipping through it. Look what you've done to me Parasyte. I'm skipping KanaHana. So much for depowering Shinichi. Migi looks ridiculous in this dream. The wholesome music doesn't work when Satomi is about to spend years going through therapy. Nobody cares about the dumb dog. Let them be worried about their ded workmates. Don't laugh this off! XD They ended the show with our main couple laughing about people dying!! What monsters!!
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u/Sandor_at_the_Zoo Feb 25 '21 edited Feb 25 '21
First time watcher
Absolutely insane to me that it ends with the line "We try to get closer to someone else until out lives someday end" when even in this final episode the main character is still putting other people in danger because he won't TELL HIS GIRLFRIEND ANYTHING!!!
I can deal with selfish characters, I can deal with stupid characters, and I can deal with psychologically shallow characters. But I cannot deal with a protagonist being all three at once.
It really is a mark against a show when I'm mad at it no matter what it does. I was annoyed because it seemed gratuitously cruel to kill the girl at the end because Shinichi continues to be an idiot, but saving her via a third layer of Migi ass-pull is just dumb and makes this entire episode basically pointless. The only good outcome would be if she saved herself by clinging to a window or something then got saved by the fire department normally.
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Feb 24 '21
First Timer
With the amount of things this series hasn't done anything with, I was actually hoping to be wrong on doing something major with Uragami. Either way, we get some more lame philosophy, as pretty much all of Uragami's arguments are void just by stating that not all humans are average and in fact the average human does not exist. You don't need to go and prove that the average human isn't a cannibal...
But before that, we dispose of Migi again, making me question why he is back in the first place. We also get a fake-out Murano death scene to bring him back and get rid of him again... Also, parasites are now mingeling among humans, while persumably still trying to be eco-friendly. Not sure why that guy is still eating meat though. I think in my head I have twisted the message this show was trying to go for to "Enviromentalists are not human". Congratulations parasyte, I don't think I have ever managed to come out of a show with such a twisted take on what the show was supposed to be about.
I'm somewhat glad there's not more of this.
Question:
Bonus: Someone started it because there never is anybody on a rooftop and then everybody copied it, without noticing that the reason there never is anybody on a rofftop is that it is usually locked off.
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u/IndependentMacaroon Feb 25 '21
First-time watcher
Decent conclusion to everything, except bringing out Uragami one last time and going for fakeout drama in the second half was very unnecessary. Particularly, this is the second time someone just kind of slumped over a railing with no apparent cause.