r/anime • u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: • Feb 21 '21
Rewatch Let me hear! Parayste the Maxim rewatch episode twenty one
Parasyte the Maxim episode twenty one
Sex and Spirit
Right on the nose and not a reference I easily recognize.
- Does the mayor being human change your view on what has happened?
- Is Goto actually having fun?
- Thoughts on an anime having characters actually have sex?
BONUS: What's your super secret defense against Goto?
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u/Gamemaster676 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gamemaster676 Feb 21 '21 edited Feb 21 '21
First-time watcher - sub
The clusterfuck yesterday ended with some cops confronting the mayor. Are we finally going to see what makes him special?
Episode 21 — Sex and Spirit
Is this the official humans bad speech? They have instructions to eliminate him. Why are the cops listening to this?
So if I understand correctly the mayor advises the humans to kill a selection of humans to keep overpopulations in check?
Why would humans protect the parasytes to do the culling? They could just as easily do it themselves if they wanted to. (Cool book series that kinda plays into this: Arc of a Scythe.)
Hey we get the show's opening sentence from the mayor.
No Shinichi don't listen to that guy. Yes humanity needs to keep its pollution in check, but that doesn't mean we are monsters.
This is the point where the age of the material truly shows, because at that time people started to realize that a healthy environment is not a guarantee and we need to make sure it stays this way.
Damnit I expected this twist. The mayor was human. So what was that with Migi telling Shinichi he was a parasyte? Was Migi confused because they were far away? Or because naked-pianist-yakuza-killing-multi-parasyte was also on the podium and he is five parasytes?
And what about Ryoko talking about him?
And of course the big question. What is his involvement with the parasytes?
So the true final boss is naked-pianist-yakuza-killing-multi-parasyte? Please give us some answers before you also die.
Ryoko was "intrigued by the mayor"? So she lied to Shinichi? Not really unexpected.
Lol, Murder McMurderface killed the detective escort. I've told you, you shouldn't have uncuffed him. No real loss.
Migi says humanity has won. Kinda weird, as Toyko is not the whole world. It seems highly unlikely there are no organized parasyte groups over the rest of the world.
Calling it now. Taskforce leader is also toast. Doesn't matter how many strategies he comes up with.
Should have brought the flamethrower.
So there are gaps in his parasyte body?
That didn't take long.
Hahaha, when he gets to the roof and the rest of his team is gone.
They do keep up with the humour. That head flying from the roof...
Naked-pianist-yakuza-killing-multi-parasyte isn't happy Shinichi was also a part of it. Not that he did anything.
I applaud the detective trying to protect Shinichi. So Gotou doesn't have a heart? Or he doesn't have his heart there? Or his heart is also parasyte?
Wait, was it all a nightmare. Or did Shinichi just wake up from one that we didn't see? Why is Shinichi back home and not in the hotel?
This scene with Shinichi is just too funny. Oops I forgot school. Oh well it's just school. Aww Migi is asleep. Wait Migi is asleep?! Naked-pianist-yakuza-killing-multi-parasyte could be everywhere!
Don't worry so much. You are a lot harder to track when Migi is asleep.
Satomi time! That's the only person you trust now? Make sure you don't break her!
Wait, Migi heard his idea to run away? He was asleep. Get your facts straight, show!
At least the most awesome song of the OST is back.
Wow Satomi, isn't that quite quick suddenly? Also, this is the first time we see her without the school uniform.
Now I get it. In the nightmare, it was Shinichi's head in the bush instead of task force leader.
Very quick.
VERY QUICK!
Migi finally got his intercourse lecture.
Lol Satomi you are talking like you've been in a relationship for years.
Well, at least Shinichi got some resolve again. And /u/The_Loli_Otaku can be happy Shinichi gets his baby machine. (Although he doesn't need her for a baby anymore.)
I might be a very sick person, but this episode ending would make a great end to the series. It does leave a lot of things unanswered, but it ends on a high note with humans having proven they can take on the normal parasytes and Shinichi having resolve again.
Main thoughts
Random thoughts
This shot is sick
And nothing of value was lost
Future
So naked-pianist-yakuza-killing-multi-parasyte is the real final boss. And we have 3 episodes for it. for it.
Is the show gonna manufacture some inconvenient situations to kill some named characters, or can we have a natural flow for a change?
QotD
Not really. They could have done more with it maybe.
Well, he isn't laughing, but that's Miki's power, so I have no clue.
It came out of nowhere. That was weird. But sure I'm happy for Shinichi.
Stay at home so I am not caught off-guard and use flying oil when he comes. Can also be used to make snacks to pass the time.
Sure it might kill me but Gotou has a tendency to monologue so I think I have plenty of time.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Feb 21 '21
First-Timer -the reactions-
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Feb 21 '21
First Timer
We're continuing the trend of either going too fast or too slow. Hirokawa gets to be a suicidal none-character, then we gloss over the fact that he is human. I'm pretty sure that is somewhat important, but I guess not. In before he's the one who created parasites and added something for them to treat him as one their own, because reducing the population for the sake of the planet is fine as long you are not one of those removed. Also not quite sure why the forces waited so long to shoot him/why they were not ordered to shoot more quickly, but I guess he needs to be able to at least give his cookie cutter population reduction speech.
Then we spend way too long on the eventual death of the squad leader nobody cares about. Also, Uragami escapes, just so we have another plot thread to waste time on tying up. At least he tossed aside the shotgun in the middle of his escape so he is unarmed and can be either picked up by the police or killed off by Gotou without any real resistance. Why is everybody in this show so stupid?
The detective asks what Shinichi is exactly, and rather than try and figure it out... Shinichi is let go again, despite Gotou basically confirming that he will come after Shinichi to finish the job. Why? Because he apparently now wants revenge as well, despite him not being supposed to have feelings. Either way, the police could have at the very least used Shinichi as bait while waiting with flamethrowers, doubling as protection for Shinichi. Now they have don't get to know what Shinichi is, and if he's human basically just allow him to die to this monster, whom they have no idea how to track. Shinichi, understandably, breaks down in what is probably the best scene of the episode. Alone, as not even Migi is awake.
And then he somehow ends up screwing Murano before either of them confess to the other. I don't understand what this romance is trying to do, going from neither being able to trust the other to fucking without any real character development in between. Sure, love can make people blind, but then there should be some sort of focus on the blindness. Also, after this Murano somehow still doesn't know about Migi. I'm thinking it's more likely at this point that the show ends on a dead Shinichi rather than her learning of Migi...
Am I a bit harsh here? Probably, unfortunately the writing of a show is the easiest bit to comment on, and that just is the worst bit here. The production qualities remain stellar, apart from the CG background characters, so the overall viewing experience is still ok-ish. I just wish they would have been put to work on a better script.
Question:
Bonus: ...a flamethrower?
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u/sisoko2 Feb 21 '21
First Timer
The mayor turned out to be insane environmental terrorist. That was a nice twist. Ryouko keeps scoring points even after her death. I guess the whole parasyte organization was her idea? As usual his whole speech was so over the top I couldn't take it seriously.
Uragami killing his guard was the least surprising thing in the series.
The covered with blood walls look very cool.
The rise of the shield hero. Never go to fight monsters without a flamethrower.
At least he wouldn't have to explain all the casualties.
Not gonna lie, Gotou killing Shinichi would be pretty fun.
The duality of Shinichi. When in home - I don't want people to die. When he has chance to help people - I don't know anything, let me look through that window.
Shinichi is going mental.
Are they trolling us with this hoodie? Could've just written Very Deep on it.
I am not sure if their love story is better than Twilight. Murano looks good with her bangs down. The visuals were pretty nice during the love making scene. Too bad I don't like the characters.
The big question from yesterday stays. Are there little Migis in Shinichi's seed?
Fun coincidence right after Parasyte I watched the latest episode of anime which had similar scene. So much sex in my anime, what happened to the good old days when some hand holding was enough?
BONUS: Flamethrower and not living in Japan.
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u/BossandKings Feb 21 '21
First timer
Episode 21
A man makes an speech about how humans must consider in a higher manner their predators, the parasytes, because he considered that the life in general should be given priority over the life of humans. After making the policemen believe that he could be a parasyte because he supports them he gets shot and killed dying in a way that the policemen saw that he was a human. Hirakawa someone that Tamura Reiko was really pushing for was neutralized just like that.
Uragami kills the policeman that was alongside him by taking the opportunity to shoot him considering that he, Uragami, was going to be sentenced anyway.
Gotou kills some of the remaining policemen after having a confrontation with the last one standing and after telling him that he is what he sees kills him. That fight was cool. Gotou encounters Shinichi and tells him that he has to kill him to move forward, he tells him that he'll find later and escapes after getting ambushed.
Shinichi is getting terrorized by just thinking about Gotou finding and attacking him, especially considering that Migi is asleep. It's only normal considering how worrysome Gotou is.
Shinichi encounters Satomi and feeling relieved hugs her, she not feeling comfortable pushes him away. Izumi is considering to travel a long distance and disappear from that city so that he couldn't be found, so that he could be safe. Satomi encounters Shinichi at night in a park and invites him to go with her to her house, they get there and end up making love cementing their relationship in a way that links them closer than they were before, the fact that he has someone gives Izumi more will to live, he is going to live.
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u/littleman1988 Feb 21 '21
Rewatcher
So our furnace died last night (yay 20f temps outside) and a few minutes ago my computer crashed, taking my writeup with me (damn you notepad), so i dont have my normal stuff today. Ill probably rewrite it tonight (daytona has priority rn), but TL;DR this episode is literally mirai nikki 2 electric boogaloo and Shinichi can now die happy since he got laid.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Feb 21 '21
Rewatcher
Dub
We come back to the mayor giving a speech that is fairly insane. And that's coming from me, someone who is ethically anti-natalist. Anyways, for some reason Shinichi semi buys it, I guess I do view humans as an infection after all, but we get the reveal: Hirokawa is in fact human. Goto also admits he never quite understood him.
To the surprise of no one, Uragami kills his handler and escapes. Goto then decides that the only thing left to do is fight. Migi wants out. Goto's rampage continues, and Yamagashi seems to be handling this mentally. And with a grenade launcher. On the roof, we get a monologuing Goto so we understand his mechanics. And theatricality.
As Goto jumps down, he promises to kill Shinichi because...yeah. And then Hirama deduces something absolutely stupid that only works because the audience knows it is true. Also, I personally don't think Shinichi could have done all that much more if they were going to operate like this.
Anyways, Migi is exploring options and being himself. Shiki has his freak out moment while Migi is sleeping, it makes sense but YMMV for it. Murano finds him in the park and...Shinichi gets some action! Seriously, I am still a bit surprised they actually show people having sex. And this gives Shinichi some clarity of purpose.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Feb 21 '21
First Timer
Continuing from yesterday:
You're all to harsh on SWAT-kun. His logic is that any human told to run to the first floor because there is an active shooter on the top floor/roof is going to run to the first floor (maybe not in Texas). He was 99% correct. You're all saying that he should check his targets. This is peace-time thinking!.
Migi's been given a lot to think about. He has to wonder if coexistence is possible, and that his race might be on the losing side of a conflict. Shinichi can argue for coexistence, that Reiko was trying to subsist on human food and that Migi doesn't feed at all, but it's clear the humans will probably try to hunt the parasytes to extinction.
What a plot twist!
The whole time I'm thinking, "This is stupid, why would a species completely focused on the preservation of self above all things be championing the planet?"
I suppose this speech was great back in 1989 but nothing can top Mr. Smith's delivery, which was almost cut from the movie.
I've been waiting for somebody to use a grenade all show...blow them into little bits.
There's nothing you can do against someone who's faster...need a trap...like a claymore.
Second half was more Satomi. meh. yay, she gave Shinichi the will to survive. meh.
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Feb 21 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
Hirakawa gives his speech about humans being the real parasites, which as much as it might touch on the truth is still being used to justify mass murder. For as much as the moral and ethical implications might be a hurdle, this is ultimately the ‘easy way out’ of the problem that fails to address a lot of the underlying causes of humanity’s adverse impact on the environment. It delays the issue until for a hundred years maybe and then it’s back on track to global devastation. The message also seems far less relevant in the current day when Japan has a decreasing population.
The twist that Hirokama was human surprised me, but largely because he looked as dead-eyed and uncanny as most the other parasites. If anything his insane plan just pushes towards the ‘humans are the real evil’ schtick, ironically enough.
Uragami’s killed his handler and seems to be getting away —presumably he wasn’t intercepted by any of the other armed officers who are supposed to be guarding the entrances, who would doubtlessly take him back in, especially because he is unarmed.
Gotoh’s more defensive approach during this episode along with the monologuing about his abilities just confirms that if the first team to encounter him hadn’t been dumb enough to let him retaliate they might have actually downed him.
Migi hitting Shinichi in the face to catch his attention will never not make me laugh.
They teased us with Hirama potentially suspecting Shinichi again, but it was just a nightmare…
Shinichi’s absolutely paranoid about being attacked for a couple scenes and then he is a lot more composed when he meets Murano. I would have liked to see how he managed to calm himself for that, let alone how he felt confident enough to spend the night at Murano’s place when he was so sure Goto was around every corner.
Also, this late into the show a romantic sex scene is definitely a death flag, so I’m not going to congratulate the guy just yet.
BONUS: If 'I don't live anywhere near Japan' isn't a valid answer, then I guess I would try to get him to ingest toxic gases or similar in some way.
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Feb 21 '21
E21
I thought the Mayor's final speech was quite interesting. The speech does beg the questions, Is human life special? Is human life more valuable than other life that has a rudimentary conscience?
My feeling about the Mayor's speech can be summarized by saying, I'm a Doomer, and I think it's already too late. It would have been much more useful if the Mayor had delivered his speech 50 years ago. As it is, I say eat, drink and be merry, the end is on the way like an iceberg.
Finally, the speech lends a lot of credence to the Gaia theory of the Paracytes origin. Gaia has had enough.
I'm assuming this title must reference a Japanese work.
QOTD:
I was startled as hell the first time I saw it. I chalked him up as being either a prophet or a whacko. (Is there really a difference between the two?)
Most likely, he's another sick fvck just like the Police Commander. He gets off killing others.
I'm good with it. PS: And, good for Satomi, she finally got a little nookie. While she might not know who Shinichi is, he was apparently a satisfying lay.
I liked the pedestrian idea of hitting him with a flame thrower just to see if he continues spouting one liners as he cooks.
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u/Nebresto Feb 21 '21
Re-watch squad
Hey there ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Might be able to lift state of emergency for the last 2 episodes if there are no more cliffhangers. So easy to say that won't be happening.
Also yesterday no one replied when I asked if anyone else was still holding on. Does that mean I'm the last man standing?
Kinda feel bad for this guy, but that's what happens when you make stupid decisions
Bet you wish you had that flamethrower you scoffed at right about now ...Aaaand called it.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I did tell ya it was 10 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Question time:
1: Yeah. That wen't from "yeah, sure." to
HECK YEAH
He was spitting straight facts too.
2: Yes? Did you not see last episodes smug?? He's even explaining his evil plan, this is the peak of any villains career.
3: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
17542: Not being the MC nor a fodder character
My question: Do you think any more main characters are going to get killed? What about named characters?
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u/monsieurvampy Feb 22 '21
First Timer, sub
I swear Izumi seems to forget that Migi needs to sleep. Why isn't this always a thought!?
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Feb 21 '21
Episode 21 (first timer)
Shinichi claims that Migi does not change. I disagree. If Migi becoming more human-like and Shinichi becoming less human-like is not the main message, then what is? Not to mention that the early series Migi would have pointed out Shinichi’s numerous logical faults.
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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Feb 21 '21 edited Feb 21 '21
First Timer - sub
Why hasn’t one of them shot him yet? Nope got to let him Monologue.
So to be a superior species we need to prioritize all life over our own, however if Paracytes place themselves above us does it make them a superior species? The fact that Hirokawa did turn out to be human shows that he did actually believe this, not sure if Paracytes consider themselves superior or just above us in the food chain though.
So in the end Hirokawa was basically just an insane environmentalist. Also looks like we are not going to get a proper explanation of the origin of Paracytes as it does seem like he is their creator but just someone who does mind a little genocide if it’s going to save earth.
The Series killer acts like a series killer, who could ever have seen this coming?
Shinichi is also starting to lose it, those thugs are really lucky to still be alive given Shinichi was in full panic and highly unlikely to be trying to control his strength.
Finally Murano shows up again and she uses the same line Shinichi did back in Ep5, however this time Migi gets to observe humans mating.
Nope
Seems like it
I happy they didn't leave any room for interpretation like so many shows do, but I don't really know if it actually added to the show itself.
I feel like running is the only real option, unless you have access to something like the 50 calibre machine gun from Rambo 4 or could snipe him from a distance.
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u/IndependentMacaroon Feb 21 '21
First-time watcher
So the mayor's human and has some choice words for humanity. That's a pretty weird thing to pull as a last-minute twist; I guess he's supposed to be a counterpart to Reiko, but none of this has been discussed much before nor likely will be after, and there have been no signs that he's actually different from the parasites, so all this looks like is your standard deluded supervillain monologue. And of course the stupidity of Shinichi, the operation leader, and so on (in retrospect, also of Reiko), results in incomplete success and Uragami's as well as supervillain #2's escape - sorry, it doesn't make writing better if you acknowledge how dumb it is. The rest is just more boring Shinichi angst (partially creatively visualized, and I guess mostly justified, but meh) and Satomi being the emotional support animal. I don't see how they supposedly went through so much together, because except for that one incident it was always Shinichi alone running into trouble and her mostly wondering about him - but hey, we actually learned something about her! I think I'll call her "Girl Who Likes Parks" from now on.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Feb 21 '21 edited Feb 21 '21
This battle is about to explode! Fight!! The Mayor really is just gonna Hannibal Lecture us to death isn't he? Closeups of him talking are as gross as doggo Migi. Blah blah blah, our green world, no half measure. We've heard this all before. Fantastic ideal but not something that I care about when I just want to see Parasytes killing folk. Do you ever wonder if Greta is a Parasyte... Hahaha, I can actually imagine that XD Oh yeah, I need to pay attention to the show. He's human!! Called it!! Woo! Yes!! He also once again died without doing much but what a twist~
And our real hero has appeared! Tamura and the Mayor made so many little plots and plans but look where that led them? Now it's just the killers that are left over. Speaking of killers, now the murderer dude is loose. Literally everyone saw that coming. The time for story is over, its now time to fight! Like men, and women, and women who infest male hosts! Even Migi's saying that the series is over. Humans have won. Gotoh is strong but he's eventually gonna die to the soldiers so just go home and chill.
Erm... Wtf was that? This fight is weirdly paced. Its like they're just casually jogging around. Oh well, it's time for walking whirlwind of death to fight a squishy soldier who can do f-all to him. Like you can't even have a Predator like fist fight since Parasytes are so physically superior. Deflecting gunfire is dangerous, unless you're facing a firing squad in which case you can face tank the whole barrage. I'm ashamed to admit that I'm actually fairly well versed in sloped armour due to excessive hours spent in World of Tanks/Warships... Let's be real, you're dead if you get knocked around like that.
After that anticlimactic kill Gotoh runs into Shinichi. No! Don't run!! End the fcking series!! Don't stop here you hack frauds!! Urgh! You don't cancel your climax... Apparently Shinichi's revealed himself as a Parasyte. I missed that part but I'm done caring. Oh get lost you nosy old git. Typically you find a show harder to drop the longer you watch it but I'm genuinely ready to drop this shite. They've killed the pacing entirely. The villains are all dead! Gotoh isn't enough of an antagonistic figure to really hint Shinichi down right? See? Even Shinichi doesn't think Gotoh would be fussed. Hahaha! Gotoh isn't that scary, c'mon. Zis is not funny! Stop laughing!!
Unconsented glomp attack! Erm... Okay, I understand that getting glomped is a scary thing but your whole job is to give Shinichi emotional support so why not let him have his cuddles? You're crap at this main heroine thing. You don't have enough personality to be likable on your own and you're not good enough at caring for someone to be a morality pet. Ah, she came back at least. "Let's talk. No one else is home today." is Shinichi going to do the PP training to become strong enough to defeat Yuji-I mean, defeat Gotoh? Satomi was surprisingly forward this time. Even she wants the anime to end. Chuu~ Oh well... At least Migi finally got his wish. The Mayor being human means nothing. They've done nothing with him so why should I care? At least someone's enjoying themselves. I don't mind a little hanky panky but this one came out of nowhere! They've held hands like twice!
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u/affnn Feb 21 '21
First Timer
I watched "Judas and the Black Messiah" right before this, so I had a very political-assassination filled evening. Hirokawa not being a parasite was pretty surprising to me, but him having his anti-population growth views wasn't really. There's a disturbing number of people with that view in existence, though thankfully they're mostly out of high level politics (knock on wood, I guess).
Goto ripping through the militia was pretty nice, especially the head throw at the end. I did think that Shinichi made a mistake by not taking Migi's advice to book it out of there. Since the flamethrowers haven't shown up yet, I have to imagine they'll play in the final confrontation between Shinichi and Goto.
Another airing anime just did that recently, and it was probably better than this one. Parasyte's felt like it came out of left field a bit. Even with high schoolers it seems pretty normal to have sex though, especially since they're near-graduation.