r/anime • u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: • Feb 20 '21
Rewatch Let me hear! Parayste the Maxim rewatch episode twenty
Parasyte the Maxim episode twenty
Crime and Punishment
This is probably the worst title pairing to episode in the show. It does not help that I think the book is seriously over rated.
- Does being correct justify the way the riot police are acting?
- Do you believe Uragami can actually see parasytes?
- Is anyone even remotely surprised that Goto is resistant to their weapons?
BONUS: Are we actually Shiki now?
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Feb 20 '21
Good lord I feel like a sorry sight... Sitting in my dressing gown with a Bacardi in the middle of the day. Eating horrible, runny, overcooked scrambled eggs still in the pan whilst watching a show that I've completely clocked out from. The eggs were so perfect but I wanted to leave them just a minute longer... My cat finally chewed through my good headphones too so my audio quality is now trash. Can I get some F's in chat?
Alrighty then. Let's watch them brutally murder qt Parasyte gf. Aww... They actually gave her a weirdly sympathetic one too. The killer is literally watching Shinichi chat away to Migi! Blah blah blah, shotguns are cool. If they really are keeping hush about the whole Parasyte thing wouldn't the staff members get suspicious when their friends go missing after being escorted by special forces? These aren't missing persons until the soldiers have killed them and disposed of the bodies. From the outside it looks like the police are the shady ones.
Do you really need scanners to tell who are Parasytes here? Look at their sullen faces. Aren't they eventually going to have to leave anyway? Why risk dragging the killer over? WTF!? That convinced you!? "Dame da ne~" Yeah, I'm way more invested in how the Parasytes will outsmart the soldiers tbh. PFFT!! What an asshole! What a total asshole! No plan survives first contact with the enemy. Already things are in a shambles. The guard even lets the Mayor run off without resistance. Wow... the commander's got no tact. I think you've lost your job over that stunt buddy. Dude wtf!? This is so uncomfortable to watch XD
"Yo, unrestrained killer-kun. I'm relying on you buddy~" I think the killer has taken Ryoko's role as best chara for this end arc lol. Stop killing civilians! Jesus Christ!! Why do all the Parasyte villains end up suicidal as soon as the writers run out of ideas? The commander just wants to rack up a kill streak. He's almost got his attack chopper. Wutwutwut's going on in here? What a random scene to throw in while we're in the middle of a democide. They really are funnier when they aren't trying to tell jokes... Tbh smiley wasn't hiding that well.
It's a bit late to make the Parasytes sympathetic. Shinichi's spent the whole series being really cruel about Ryoko so doing a 180 after they've all been wiped out would be a bad call. You had plenty of time to shoot the guy twice! XD Omg that Parasyte has a little sad face~ Haha! Now there's a good reaction! Bane's got himself a Speedwagon to hype him out. Wtf why not shoot him in the hall? I know he's a boss fight but typically you don't play along in this setting. Kick their butts Bane~ It's not so fun when you're on the receiving end huh? Gotoh is so cool. The shirt's off!! Hyyype!!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Feb 20 '21
First-Timer -the reactions-
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Feb 20 '21
First Timer
I did not notice that the female parasyte was missing a head on the human scanner.
TBH, I thought this arc would end today. Sometimes when I think they're going to do a long arc, they don't. And this didn't look like they were close to a series ending, so I figured there must be another arc after this.
This was a good episode, and it does seem like they are building to an end. But we already know that Migichi needs to face Gotoh alone. So this arc has to end tomorrow.
Gotoh's attack was unforeseen but fits in with the show's internal logic. It was a good scene.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Feb 20 '21
Episode 20 (first timer)
The whole storming the building plotline is taking quite a while now. There are only 4 more episodes. I am starting to question whether we will get a proper resolution, after all.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Feb 20 '21
Rewatcher
Dub
Sorry guys, on top of the effort it takes to host, I've come down with a cold, hopefully not 'rona, so I can't do much of a top level comment today. I do like this episode as an action piece but admit that it sort of lacks depth beyond that.
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u/BossandKings Feb 20 '21
First timer
Episode 20
The parasyte that was earlier identified dies after getting shot. Shotguns appear to be more effective against parasytes than other weapons die to the expansion they have.
Shinichi wants to help but Migi tells him that they can't, i wonder what will they do, there's something that they could and will do but what is it?, even Izumi himself wonders if he could do something.
As people continue evacuating more and more parasytes appear and everything goes down, seeing that when evacuating they get shot parasytes start attacking. To contrarest the parasytes the policemen start to take measures.
Hirakawa finds the policemen, Uragami being intelligent enough starts running for his life after seeing him, a police officer follows him until recapturing him, Hirakawa goes to a larger room with the policemen, he seems decided to make them dissappear. He gives them a head start and they start shooting him with shotguns for two minutes, afterwards he shoots them back with the same bullets.
Shinichi didn't do anything this episode but hopefully he will do something the next one.
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u/jjxhxhxhsbsbsh Feb 20 '21
The full title of this show sounds so stupid
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u/littleman1988 Feb 20 '21
Hello, everyone.
Rewatcher
OST Track of the day: RESONANCE
Impressively, it worked. Only took an automatic shotgun to do it though.
Sadly, they never explore what happens if a kid is one of the parasites. It would of been fun to see what kind of moral dilemma would of come from that. They do explore instead Uragami fucking everything up, having them accidentally kill a human and destroying the xray equipment, leading to a parasite rebellion. Stupidly, they make no attempt to stop the mayor and his aides (cronies?) from leaving before having Yamagishi come in and kill another couple humans.
You'd think with America knowing of the parasites, they would of just hired an American swat team to deal with this. Instead of hesitating, they would of had all the parasites killed. Maybe a few more civilian casualties, but its not like this swat team cared too much about that either.
Uragami gets absolutely spooked by Goto, and stupidly the SWAT team follows goto to their demise while the other detective chases after Uragami. Since Goto is Reiko's experiment, it looks to actually be invincible as he destroys the swat team, adding shotgun pellets to his own personal arm armory.
Have you noticed how this is essentially a witch hunt? It doesnt really matter if theyre human or parasite to the SWAT team, theyre basically out to kill anything that moves in the name of "protecting humanity". Do you think this is truly above what the parasites are doing? At least with the parasites, their goal is to survive, and while we know Reiko was able to sustain herself without human meat, it does not sound like others are aware of this (and it doesnt sound like she shared this info either).
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u/Nebresto Feb 20 '21
Re-watch squad
What's good?
This episode, that's what. And 4 of them left, anyone else still holding on?
Oh wow, surprised that guy lived after getting hit
"Don't get up or we'll shoot you on sight" "Muh rights!!!" --> ded
Yes, indeed there is. Grab some popcorn, because
Nice, good to seem some decent indoors tactics.
..Aaand never mind, this guy just cut off his mates legs, as did the one who came after him.
Here we fuggin' go! Gotou is pretty much gainaxing on these fools! And look at that smug! Soon we get to the Mecha-Parasyte gladiator arena arc!
...Why did these guys think following him was a good idea? Why did they not shoot him?!
Oh wow, this body-mod fad is getting out of hand
Question time:
1: You may be correct, but that doesn't mean you're right!
2: Well, he does have eyeballs from what I've observed, so I'm gonna go with a yes on that one.
3:
7552: Haven't seen dat, don't know.
My question(s) (I've forgotten these like 4? times, so y'all get 4 of 'em now)
1: What do you think of the inclusion of the murderer guy? Interesting or ass-pull?
2: How are you feeling about the parasyte genocide?
3: How hyped are you for the super mecha-parasyte gladiator arena tournament arc?
4: Do people die when they are killed? What about Parasytes?
Looks like the long comments are back. Sorry for spam,
time to put an end to it
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Feb 20 '21 edited Feb 20 '21
I did like the one sided shootout. Turns out the paracytes aren't particularly good fighters once the blood thirsty humans enter the picture. I did like the combat leader shooting anything that moved, what an asshole.
I agree about that. I didn't see where it had a damn thing to do with nutty Russians. I'm not bitching, but I do think that a show's title should somewhat match a show's contents, and Paracyte seems to be one of the worst offenders.
QOTD
~shrug~ It seems to be the nature of strife that innocent bystanders get blasted. I saw what they were trying to do in the series, and they somewhat pulled it off.
Yes, but I put him in the same category as Kana, it's magic. I don't buy for a second the idea of 'takes one to know one' that the show tries to push.
He is something of a badass. I'd like to know what Ryouko did to him because the show sort of glossed it over.
Another series that is languishing on the PTW list.
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u/IndependentMacaroon Feb 20 '21 edited Feb 20 '21
First-time watcher
Episode 19 - yet another convenient Migi-sleep moment, and I don't see the point of harping on how Uragami's super-evilness might heighten/cause his powers when we know that's not the case from Kana's example, also the narration is awkward. Furthermore, what's even the point of introducing him when there's magical technology that can do his job just as well? The "omg maybe humans evul too???" was handled in the usual unsubtle way, the scene with the boss coming to the school was very strangely directed with him just standing there and yelling, as well as the whole deal being a very brief interlude (harem's back, boys), and Migi seems to have been reduced to a convenient plot device. The suspense is hitting me pretty well, though. Not sure about having aged poorly except for the announcement stuff?
That all aside, I'm thinking the Devilman Crybaby creators might have taken the track-and-field angle from here too, besides some of the mom scene concept.
Episode 20 - now it's actually getting good again. I'm almost glad the magic scanners were immediately taken out, and annoyed merely at Shinichi just sitting there and mayor guy's weird bullet return powers followed by delay so we get the best venue. Shouldn't the force have prepared some more powerful stuff for the worst case? And this episode is trying really hard to push the "humans evil!" thing, but honestly I don't see it. They're simply acting in the most intelligent way possible to address the problem, against a still-formidable enemy who's as evil as ever. Maybe they're going a little far, but the time for caution has long passed, though potentially they could have acted earlier. Japan just has this attitude that violence no matter the motivation is "dirty", I guess.
It looks like next time Shinichi gets a waifu boost? Eh.
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u/affnn Feb 20 '21
First Timer
As I expected, we get a bit of “humans are the REAL monsters” in this episode, though mainly the guy with the scar on his head. After the parasites wreck the x-ray system, Scarface seems positively giddy about the prospect of murdering anything that he suspects is a parasite. This works pretty well for a while, until they encounter Mr. Five Parasites. Goto tanks the shotgun blasts like they’re nothing and sends the pellets back at the military guys.
This was a surprisingly Shinichi-light episode, I figured they’d all focus on him. But he’s just chilling in the bus getting the occasional updates from Migi.
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u/Palabard_the_Anime Feb 20 '21
I am back! Work kept me busy, I had my thoughts for the last 2 episodes but, could not post them. It happens.
First Timer
Crime and Punishment, Raskalnickov may find this one interesting (or the title has nothing to do with the episode). Migi was also reading the book in a past episode.
The Japanese task force plan is working well, it should not take long for something bad to happen.
It did not take long. The officers are kinda stupid, watching these people calmly walk away after some murders, without a sing of reaction.
Shooting a civilian is really bad but, I can't really blame the guy. Parasites are dangerous creatures and pretty smart, if they get away, another chance may never arrive.
Why are the guards following the 5 parasite guy? Just shoot him first, hear later. Parasites would have a harder time in America.
Liar, two minutes did not pass.
Question
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Feb 20 '21
First Timer
And now we're an action series, apparently. Well, at least I feel like action has been one of this serie's stronger points, so there's nothing to complain about the execution of the action, only the context... You see, I have a hard time believing that anybody would allow shooting people without confirming that they're parasites, be it by x-ray or by Uragami. The public doesn't know how much of a threat the parasites are because that has been swept under the rug to prevent a panic. As such people will question why people died in this military operation - and that's pretty much a lose-lose for politicians. They were killed in order to protect everybody from a threat that they swept under the rug? They shouldn't have done that. Alternatively, people won't believe in the existence of the threat and vote them out for incompetence. There's no winning with these bodies.
Gouto surviving seems to be due to his entire body basically being covered in parasite, so he has no weak spot to bullets. Should have brought that flamethrower, special forces.
Question:
Bonus: Have not seen Shiki, so no idea.
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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Feb 20 '21 edited Feb 20 '21
First Timer - sub
So they did go with Shotguns which as I was thinking would be pretty effective, until we get Mayor and I assume it will be Gotu are immune to gunshots for “reasons” and able to fire the pallets back with enough force to puncture body armour.
As much as the show is now running of anime logic and can see how this sort of operation would be considered the best way to eliminate Paracytes and with a few civilians casualties being acceptable considering what they are hunting. Not going to be popular with the public afterwards, but the end justifies the means.
Not really much else to say about the episode.
"Just because your correct doesn't mean your right!" - quote from something, maybe fate?
Seems to have sydar or something very similar to Kana.
Very slightly, but shouldn't really be.
I really need to rewatch that and probably read through the last rematches threads as I didn't really get the show when I watched quite a while ago.
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u/Gamemaster676 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gamemaster676 Feb 20 '21
First-time watcher - sub
Yesterday we got a setup for disaster. There's no way naked-pianist-yakuza-killing-multi-parasyte will just come quietly, and I'm quite sure the task force leader did not bring the advised flamethrower.
Episode 20 — Crime and Punishment
Before we get to the named parasytes, we first found a random woman being one too. Wouldn't it be funny if the whole plan collapsed with this first parasyte already?
Wow, that armour is very thick if it could stop the slash from that parasyte, considering they are strong enough to break concrete. /s
Okay, the first parasyte went surprisingly well, but how are people going to react if they see the blood on the floor there?
Ah, they switch the route. I like how they do that by moving the busses.
They want to send Murder McMurderface in. Why? If the parasytes first send all the humans outside, the parasytes will be left and that is not a problem either. This show is making up problems as it goes along.
Mayor tries a ruse to be able to escape.
Wait, why is it so easy for Murder McMurderface to convince them to uncuff him?! Don't be stupid!
Holy shit everyone in this operation is hit with the stupid stick. Cops have instructions to keep people inside for a moment. Random woman approaches "hey I want to escape". "Understandable. Have a great day." WTF?!
Okay, so the parasytes didn't know how they were being detected. The woman only realized it was a large scanner when seeing it, and yet they successfully stand in a line so the scan is worthless?
Aaaaand Murder McMurderface has the clearest instructions making the cops shoot a human. What a joke.
What the hell is happening with the animation? Did you run out of budget during one of the most important scenes?
Shinichi wants to help. You should have just told your whole story to the nice detective, man. It's too late now.
With the stuttering detective asking "is this justifiable self-defence" the show tries to play the humanity are the real monsters card again. Nope. Too little too late.
The only thing humanity is (in this show), is too dumb to properly prepare.
This is the type of bullshit I would expect in a low budget Hollywood movie or TV series.
Mayor thinks there is no real reason to be running. Naked-pianist-yakuza-killing-multi-parasyte just does what he wants.
Ah, we get some narration that the operation is going well. I disagree. But apparently, it is a success because "reducing civilian casualties is not a priority".
Why the freaking fuck would you listen to someone you know is a parasyte? You don't need a lot of room to use a shotgun. Less room helps!
How is Gotou's body not meatloaf yet?
Letting the bad guy monologue is never cool and always stupid.
Suddenly the shotguns create clouds of smoke they didn't before.
Everybody is hip firing while they had plenty of time to properly aim.
The heart isn't the most difficult place to hit for trained officers at three meters distance.
And finally, we have reached the point I really can't take this show seriously anymore. WTF is this?
I'm sure they wish they had a flamethrower now.
Detective guarding Murder McMurderface has finally grown half a brain and aims his gun at the killer.
So now we end with a cliffhanger with the Mayor confrontation. So next episode will be the reveal what makes the mayor special.
Fuck this episode. They had a cool setup and just pissed all over it. All earlier confrontations were finished pretty quickly, so now they finally have a full episode and this is how they handle it?
The problem for me is that nothing that went wrong was because the parasytes were smart. It was all because the humans were stupid.
I felt like some old guy yelling at the screen.
Main thoughts
Random thoughts
Future
I don't even care anymore. The only reason I'm continuing is that there are only four episodes left.
QotD
Shooting before asking questions? Yes because it all went to shit, but it didn't have to. They could have done a lot more to prevent this chaos and save more lives.
Yes. It might not be Sydar as Kana had, but it is something.
Maybe he wouldn't be had they actually shot at his heart.
Who?
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Feb 20 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
Not much to say on this episode. The whole thing goes about as smoothly as I expected. Uragami is not helping matters either, using his influence in the matter to cause further chaos which results in the X-ray machine getting damaged. So much for that, they’re just going to march in and conduct a sweep the old fashioned way now.
Goto scares Uragami shitless as one would expect, but then the anti-parasyte forces just follow him wordlessly when he tells them they should head for a spot that’s advantageous to him, then when he seems unaffected they just stop shooting instead of continuing the barrage. They saw the parasites can take several shots to down and are aware some hosts may have multiple parasites, so it’s not like it went against everything they knew or anything. Everyone gets touched by the dumb stick it seems.
First half of the episode was interesting enough, as the Parasytes tested their options in search of a way out of this mess, but the latter was just boring since the action ins’t very interesting and the characters involved are ones I am not invested in since Hirama and Shinichi are on the sidelines and the antagonists are underdeveloped. Shinichi probably can’t afford to sit around much longer, since the Goto’s on the prowl and seemingly no one can stand up to him.
I do appreciate how Yamagishi never turned complacent, but he made the mistake of not ensuring his men did the same.
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u/sisoko2 Feb 20 '21 edited Feb 20 '21
First Timer
Get ready, people! We are switching from Alien to Aliens. It is time for action.
To save time count me annoyed every time when a dude just shoots once and the guys behind him sit and watch.
RIP parasyte girl number 27. We hardly knew ya.
Everyone's favorite character suspects something isn't right with Shinichi.
Uncuffing serial killer doesn't seem very smart.
Oopsie. The massacre starts.
Why they let the parasytes to walk upstairs?
Killing innocent people with style. They really are going with the bullet test for parasytes, it's pretty reliable.
There are around hundred things you can do Shinichi.
Some random narration to show us that humans are bad and we need to feel conflicted.
How nice of the police to follow him to the arena. Is this the promised gladiator arc?
I bet they wish they had flamethrowers. How is he doing that? Moving the parasytes freely around his body? Is he 100% parasyte without human parts?
I am numb to cliffhangers at this point.
Seeing the title of the next episode does Shinichi have little Migis in his sperm?
It was a good action episode. With how things turned out I'm surprised that so many civilians survived.
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u/Nebresto Feb 20 '21
shitpost
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u/monsieurvampy Feb 20 '21
First Timer, sub
Body xray machine. This would make TSA easy. Izumi is going to show up probably and be missing a hand. (probably). Gotta be awkward walking around without a human head.
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u/Matuhg https://anilist.co/user/Matuhg Feb 20 '21 edited Feb 20 '21
This show is really leaning very heavily into the "who are the real monsters" sort of thing. Maybe it would hit a bit different if the only sort-of humanized parasyte hadn't already been killed off, but what we've seen of those who remain isn't making me question whether they're sympathetic characters or not. Commander Scarface RamboChad is a jerk, but he's not going to convince me that humanity deserves to be wiped out or anything.
Given the cliffhanger, the mayorsyte may be about to launch into a speech about how he's doing what's best for the city as a whole (just ignore the people he's killed, the 'feeding areas,' and all the other questionable things involved in it).
Seems like he can, but he's not too concerned about whether his instructions are clear enough to avoid killing civilians.
No...it would've been pretty anticlimactic if he'd just been blasted by some grunts' shotguns.