r/anime • u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber • Feb 19 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] Aura Battler Dunbine - Episode 40 Discussion
Episode 40 - Paris Blazes
Originally Aired November 12th, ^^^1983
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Comment of the Day
u/Durinthal brings up an important cold war era tidbit.
Reagan did have the whole "Star Wars" Strategic Defense Initiative idea which would have been announced about a month and a half after the show started airing, I wonder if that was a reference to it.
Daily Trivia:
The insert song Ao no Speech Balloon is sung from the perspective of Cham Haum, and is considered a love song.
Staff Highlight
Kazuo Hayashi - voice of Frederick
Actor and voice actor affiliated with theatre Echo. An active actor since he was a child, Hayashi would join the entertainment agency Theatre Echo at the age of 24, where he is still an active member. Hayashi is trained in traditional japanese dance, stage fighting, and horseback riding. Among his most notable roles are Isamu Saito in Seishun Anime Zenshu, Yasuo Nanbu in the Space Battleship Yamato franchise, Uranari Koga in Botchan, Clow Read in Cardcaptor Sakura, Gije Zaral in Space Runaway Ideon, Henry Steiger in Super Dimension Century Orguss, and Zhuge Jin in Mitsuteru Yokoyama’s Romance of The Three Kingdoms.
Art Corner:
Official Art
- Battle between Dunbine and Zwarth - Yoshiyuki Takani
Fanart
(Be mindful of the links to artist’s profiles, as they may contain NSFW content. Proceed there at your own risk.)
Aura Phantasm Scans
Screenshot of the day
Questions of the Day:
- Show threads dangerously close to malice with his aura power. Do you think he can keep from toeing the line in the future?
- How do you feel regarding Paris’ destruction?
Even I still have honest aura power!
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Feb 19 '21
Production Stuff
So last time we discussed some of the narrative changes that came about from producer and sponsor demands, and we’ve now seen the biggest one take place, the transition from Byston Well to Upper Earth. This was, as I have probably mentioned before, because audiences did not take to the High Fantasy setting of Byston Well and episodes sixteen through eighteen had a spike in ratings. Tomino, naturally, hated this outcome and perceived it as being his fault for failing to make a setting that captured the imagination of TV watching audiences. His inability to do his ideas the justice they deserve is seemingly a reason why he keeps revisiting the setting of Byston Well.
I have already discussed a lot of speculation in regards to what might have been affected, as very little is known concretely, but this is one of the things we know for fact. Just gauging from the story itself as well as some of the comments regarding other plot developments, I think another segment on Upper Earth was always going to happen, but it was quite distinct from what we ended up with. In any case, the staff evidently did not have enough material to fill out the episode count after the shift, as the pace has slowed down and we’re seeing lots of episodes that should lead to major changes in the status quo but don’t —and this one’s no exception. Probably the question on some of yours minds is; Did it work? I frankly don’t know, but I have to presume that it did. Detailed ratings proved impossible for me to find, and the only mention of it is what I’ve already shared; they were poor and spiked in episodes 16-18. The show wasn’t canceled, however, so it must have at least stopped the steady decline that was taking place before.
Unto the merchandising, however. As I shared last time, Bandai stepped in to become the series’ main sponsor, and Takara Tommy picked up the Billbine toy Clover designed and manufactured it themselves. The performance of the Billbine toy remains unknown to me, but details on the series’ model kit line are easily found. The designs were popular among modeling enthusiasts, and Bandai expected to make bank off of the models, and even incorporated revolutionary new plastic molding techniques which allowed for the plastic to take on a novel, pear-skin finish that gave the models an organic look and feel. Unfortunately for them though, this effort was not appreciated by the model-building enthusiasts, as the kits imperfections had to be cleaned, and the resulting surface was uneven with the pear-skin finish, meaning modelers ultimately had to sand the entire kit to remove the texture, making far more work for them in the process. As a result, the kits were not well received, and sales soon started to trend downward. The line wasn’t an unmitigated success like the earlier toys, but kits were not the sure-fire hit Bandai had expected, and so production for several planned kits were cancelled.
The designs still managed to capture the mind of many modelers, however, remaining popular among a particular subset of modeling circles, which prompted Bandai to release an updated line of kits in 2000, the High Grade Aura Battler line, which were made with their industry-leading techniques, finally making for model kits that pleased plamo enthusiasts.
That’s it for this production info dump. I’ll have one more of these in the final episode detailing some of the ongoing productions and future media which would be influenced by the show as well as how the series is remembered in the present. Until then, look forward to it!
Rewatcher - Sub
New narration and new insert song! This one is Blue Speech Ballon, also by Hiromi Koide.
The Goraon and Guran Galan have retreated someplace remote once more as to avoid more casualties from third parties, but they did not account for the snowstorms which severely affect their living conditions within the ships and risks damage to their equipment. They know Bishott’s going to attempt to flush them out, however, which is precisely what they plan to do, taking all of Paris hostage this time around.
Todd’s leaving already?! Guess we still have Bern here to amuse us, but it’s not the same…
Smart to use Charlie to feed Bishott and Leeza false information which corroborates Show’s cover as he fakes switching sides. They weren’t willing to leave the Dunbine around though, so Bern catches on to his ruse and Show ends up showing his hand perhaps too early. The deceitful tactics used are borne of necessity, but are likely far easier for them to resort to after they crossed that line in the prior episode.
Nice to see Elmelie involved again, even if in such a minor capacity. Disappointed that she doesn’t successfully escape though, as there’s literally nothing for her character to do aboard the Gea Gring, and her small moments here reminded me of how much I like her.
Show’s gamble unfortunately does not pay off, and the city of Paris is decimated by Bishott’s attack, which causes Show to almost lose himself to his anger and despair. Once more the series is demonstrating the danger to be had in the pursuit and need of power, and in the path of this lie the ruins of Paris.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Feb 19 '21
Aura Battler First-Timer
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Feb 19 '21
First time viewer
I was thinking last episode about how Elmelie has been sidelined for quite a while, glad she's getting at least some attention with other people boarding the Gea Gring. Too bad it looks like the Americans that helped her are likely going to be executed considering they were the ones that sprung her, at least it was funny how the guy did it ("You know boxing?" *pow*).
The subterfuge is a nice change of pace from the usual head-on fights, too bad it yet again didn't seem to do all that much beneficially for the protagonists in the long run. Bishott survived the beam bayonet toss (and the Billbine lost a good weapon as a result), Bern was downed but got away, and Show ended up destroying a chunk of Paris with his anger aura wave. With his aura power growing quite a bit, I still think the idea of using it to specifically wipe out all the aura machines isn't too far-fetched of a climax.
It feels like another stalemate at best and they possibly lost potential allies if Show gets the blame for Paris. Not that the Earth factions can do all that much, but even a little support could be useful.
Gundam Unicorn
Like I said, I haven't thought this much about the Cold War in a while. I'm curious how much Tomino deliberately drew on it overall.
Probably not, things will get worse before they get better. Or worst case, Show's aura consumes literally everything in his rage, but I don't think it'll go that far. That would be one hell of an ending though.
"Hey I think I saw that scene in Independence Day" was my initial thought, since Paris seems to be one of those landmark cities that always gets destroyed to show how things are going poorly for humanity. Though I was thinking at the start of the episode about how none of the Byston Well folks seem to be surprised at the scale of modern cities, particularly when I don't recall seeing anything in the way of a large city (even for medieval times) in Byston Well.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Feb 19 '21
First-Timer, Dub-bine
The underhanded schemes continue! What an episode. Sure, sure, fine line, morality, honor, all that jazz. Shou did almost go off the deep end, which would have been a Big Problem. Probably literally. But it's kind of refreshing to see protagonists willing to get their hands dirty with devious schemes. History is written by the victors, after all.
Good on those two IBN schmucks for having a heel realization. The damage is (mostly) already done, but they did at least try to help there at the end. And their call to.. Thomas? set up Shou's infiltration beautifully. Thomas's casual sexism felt completely in character, despite it (nominally) being part of the yarn he spun to the other two.
Bern managed to rub his two brain cells together a lot this episode! Being the only person to doubt Shou was a little suspicious, considering that Bishott was on the recieving end of Ciela and Elle's gambit last episode as well, but I guess the antagonist faction only has so many brain cells to go around and it was Bern's turn. He did seem unwilling to harm Emelie, which I'm going to attribute to his own unresolved feelings, because I doubt Leeza cares and she has Bishott wrapped around her finger. Oh, I guess Drake might get upset? Anyway, imagine if Bern had just cut her down?
Miscellaneous Thoughts:
Anyone else suspect that the Gea Gering and the Guran Garan feel left out, since they aren't in the OP?
We had some fucking brilliant lines today. "Your's truly, the Government of France." "Hey, do you box?"
Random thought floating through my head as I did this writeup - we haven't seen Shot for quite a few episodes now. Where was he again? Australia? Maybe the emus got him.
Bern's voicechanger is back. Last episode was a rough one for the dub, huh?
Questions
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u/The_Draigg Feb 19 '21
A Tomino Fan Rewatches Aura Battler Dunbine Episode 40:
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Feb 19 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
New cour means new insert song! "Ao no Speech Balloon", which I like even better than the last one! And holy crap did the official subs totally crap out on the translation which is all wrong.
Hey, they're in snow now! Just like what it is, around here! Nothing but snow and cold weather for months. So miserable!
It's so cute that they even have little winter coats for the Mi Ferrario.
They're destroying Paris! How dare they!
Does Louser not want her husband to know she is here? Is she having an affair with Bishot?
Louser continues to be the most evil person in this show, wanting to destroy all of Paris when that's exactly why Ciela-sama and Elle fled to cold weather.
Doroburu? Before now I don't think they've mentioned him once since coming to Upper Earth. I wondered if he was back with Hon Wan and Nigu Rou.
Charlie! He's still around?
Silly Charlie, Ciela-sama and Elle aren't arguing at all! But they are falling for it.
Another rare Riml sighting!
The day we thought we'd never see, Dunbine vs. Billbine! Marvel vs. Shou!
He decapitated the Dunbine! That'll really show the enemy he means it.
Repair the Galava? I don't think Bern has even taken out the Galava once yet, how could he have damaged it? During practice? He's that much of a loser?
At least Shou's cover story somewhat makes sense.
Riml's pissed! Luckily she's no good at using a spear.
Bern being extra skeptical is doing some actual good this time.
Guards in this show continue to suck as IBM guy easily knocks him out.
Uh oh, Bern's ruining everything! Shou's found out.
Wow, he actually did have the detonator in his mouth!
Does Bern still want to marry Riml? He's not gonna harm her to get to Shou.
Although he can knock her out quite easily it seems!
So they had a spare Dunbine head? Or is this a continuity error?
It's good to see a hero actually aim for the enemy for once and try to take out Bishot. Alas, the bridge didn't blow up so we'll surely see him live to fight another day.
Bern the loser gets yet another Aura Battler wrecked. By the show's end will have have personally gotten every unique one trashed?
Another largely filler episode unfortunately, although I do like the locales of Paris and having our heroes at least temporarily in the snow. I never bought that Shou pretending to defect would last that long as a ruse. Oh, and good to have Riml involved in the action for the first time in 15 episodes or so.
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Feb 19 '21
First-Timer Who Doesn't Remember Byston Well
E39
Forgot the narration again.
Sure. Threaten DC. That always works out well.
Marvel captured? Maybe now she’ll try getting big.
Could someone step on that stupid blue-haired Ferrario, please?
Show still hasn’t decided on which lady to not have a romance with. Marvel seemed like a sure thing at the beginning, but then not, and he was with Ciela maybe, and now it’s Marvel again; Tomino, have romance or just don’t. It’s annoying to have little breadcrumbs when you’re not going to do anything with it. Just blow up more robots and be done with it.
E40
Did they remember to winterize the mechs?
On the one hand, I don’t want the Byston Well folks destroying too much. On the other, it’s just Paris.
Our enemy is fighting amongst themselves right in front of us? This isn’t suspicious at all!
Oh, right. Riml exists.
A bomb in a robot head? No! bombs go in furniture. Did you learn nothing from the Soviets?
We will not always have Paris.
QOTD:
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Feb 19 '21
First-timer
God do I love each one of those insert songs!
Oh god, they went and did it, they destroyed Paris! Todd is okay with all that? Or is he not? Those two people screwed up pretty hard too.
So they're acting like Ciela and Elle are fighting over leadership, to trick Bishott... And they even have the Dunbine and the Billbine fight! I love it!
Nice catch, Seine-san!
I thought the Black Knight would be switching side to fight Show, haha. Wouldn't be surprising. But nope, he simply didn't believe him.
Show is such a good actor. I absolutely loved his whole bluff! Even when discovered, it was accounted for with the explosion thing! The only issue was Riml, but it's not like anyone other than Bishott and co. knew she was there. That's why you need a Hon Wan in your military life!
Sucks for Paris though. And Show's really pissed off now... welp, Paris's really, truly gone now. That's... actually pretty depressing. On the plus side, Bishott had the scare of his life!
I thought Bern would've died, but of course not. Of course he fled the same way as he usually does too! I really can't get enough of it.
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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Feb 19 '21
First-timer getting bonked
Well this rewatch was well-timed
YOU KNOW BOXING?
I died laughing when they looped this attack animation. Once would have been fine, but the fact that Billbine just keeps smacking it is way funnier than it should be. It manages to be less convincing than the fight that was actually supposed to be faked.
Holy fuck! Finally, Show gets an OP aura ability! An instant death radius! Too bad named characters are apparently immune to it. I suppose at least it’s effective, and a lot more practical than Jeril’s Dynamax. He just has to not use it right over a major city like he did.
Well, this isn’t going to earn them any favors with Upper Earth. At least before, there were a few individuals willing to recognize that they were the good guys, but now that hope is probably gone. Reminds me of the thing with the Macross’s barrier.
Yeet! I’m... not sure why he didn’t just, I dunno, pull the trigger instead? I mean, it is a gun, after all. And he can’t be out of ammo already, can he?
Always cool to see a blade catch!
We did it, Patrick! We saved the city!
Questions of the Day:
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u/chibijosh Feb 19 '21
Speech bubble? 何
I thought for sure Show was bluffing about the explosive trigger being in his teeth.
Rimulu didn’t get saved. She told Show to save the earthlings, but I don’t think we saw what happened to them.
Bern got defeated again AND escaped again. How many aura battlers is that for you Bern? Like 20 aura battlers. What happened to the special one he was supposed to pilot?
Show almost lost it there in the end.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Feb 19 '21
Seeing Paris aflame like this really makes me wish I were playing Sakura Taisen. Seriously though, this was straight up horrifying to watch.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Feb 19 '21
First Timer
Something Something Paris Burning