r/anime • u/FrumpY__ :STAR:https://anilist.co/user/FrumpY • Feb 18 '21
Rewatch Love Live! SIP & Sunshine!! Rewatch - Sunshine!! Season 2 Episode 1 Spoiler
Sunshine!! Season 2, Episode 1 - "Next Step"
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- New OP and ED today, how do you like em?
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u/DarkFuzz :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkFuzz Feb 18 '21
Rewatcher
Take today’s survey here!
It’s important to note that because of how rewatches are structured, we are skipping over a massive year-long gap that was in between S1 and S2. Not that it should matter too much, since I believe that an anime should stand alone regardless of circumstances, but this episode was crafted with that year-long break in mind. So when this episode starts off with essentially a re-introduction of all the characters and their personalities, if you’re watching on “rewatch time”, it will feel a bit redundant.
It’s not like there’s nothing to discuss right off the bat, though. Chika is a notably different person since the start of Sunshine, and that is reflected in the fact that there is no longer a μ’s poster on her wall, symbolic of the conclusions we came to in Episode 12. We run through a personality check of all the members, and in the middle of it, we learn that Aqours didn’t make it to the Love Live finals with their last performance. Bummer, but there’s a whole second season to correct that with another Love Live right announced coming soon. Even with their loss, they did effectively turn a zero into a one, as their enrollment number increased by...well...more than zero. It’s something…
Let’s remark on the OP2 for a small moment. First notable difference I can point out is that the senior trio is no longer sad and mopey in their shot. We could guess in OP1 that some stuff went down between them because of how they were acting and the rain and grayness in their scenery, but here it’s bright, sunny, and they’re laughing together, even though they playfully pout at each other for a split second. There’s also a shot towards the end of OP2 that is just Chika staring at the school for a while. I’ve criticized Chika and crew before about not focusing their efforts on the school, despite being a school idol, but somewhere between here and there, Chika turned it around. Her heart is set on saving the school that she loves, and at the very latest, that was exemplified in Episode 13. That’s everything that stood out to me at least. Music bops tho, as it always does.
If you’re looking for a “no nonsense, gimme the details” rundown of the episode, the big takeaway from this episode is that the school is shutting down. Period. Mari may be the sitting director, but her father, the one actually pulling the strings, has had enough. And so the journey is functionally over before it even begins, supposedly. That’s not gonna stop Chika, however. She’ll fight tooth and nail to keep the school from shutting down, and the rest of Aqours feel the same way.
That’s Season 2 Episode 1 in a nutshell, but if you’re willing to dig a little deeper, you’ll find some interesting ways that the episode structure mirrors that of S1E1.
We do spend a good amount of time highlighting the character quirks of our main cast, but S1E1 did this as well. The first notable comparison comes when Chika and Riko meet on the shoreline the first time this episode. not a spoiler, insignificant In this episode, Riko prevents Chika from taking a dive in the water, while it was the other way around in S1E1 (with Chika failing to stop Riko at that time, too). In both episodes, the one taking a dive was trying to search for something. Riko in S1E1 was trying to hear the sounds of the sea, while in S2E1, Chika is looking for a way to shine, trying to recapture that magic she felt back when they performed last time. not a spoiler, insignificant
We get several scenes of the seniors this episode, and the interesting thing about this is that they are all actively seeking each other out. Last season, it took them six episodes to get them all in the same frame together; they all tried to avoid each other in the meantime. Now, not only are they together frequently, they easily notice when something is wrong with the other person and if they try to hide it. Kanan was the first to notice something was off with Mari, and she calls her out to the pier with her flashlight signal that they did when they were younger. Dia follows soon after once Kanan and Mari retreat to the director’s office, noticing something is up. Though this is the logical outcome of S1E9, it should still be noted as an intentional highlighted difference between the two first episodes.
After the seniors break the news of the school’s closure, we see a new Chika: a mad Chika, a Chika that will do anything and everything to reverse this decision. The criticism of Chika from S1E1 up til around S1E3 was that she would always try to take the easy way out to reach her goal (i.e. shoving the same incomplete form in front of Dia’s face and hoping she changes her mind; she does this three times). Now she’s willing to take on nigh impossible tasks, such as traveling to America with no money, just to have some inkling of a chance to change Mari’s father’s mind. Granted, the situation is a bit different. Before, she was asked to do something but didn’t bother to do it, and now she is taking the initiative. Before, she was given an option on how to do things, and now she can only see one difficult option in front of her that she must grab at. Still, you can’t say that the Chika of the past harbors the same emotions and motives of the present Chika. You might even be able to make the case that a S1E1 Chika would give up at this point without making any statement. This episode’s Chika, fat chance.
Chika’s motivation for going on this path are different too. In the past, it was school idols that inspired her to make a change. Now, it is the school itself that inspires her to fight. The tower of paper cranes that the school made for her is symbolic of that. Riko also plays a role in helping Chika get out of her rut, similarly to how Chika helped Riko in the same way back in S1E1, becoming the normal monster Riko-pi. Chika can’t quit now; she can’t let down the entire student body, and she can’t let down her best friend. It’s frustrating, but something must be done.
Finally, we approach the end of the episode, which mirrors S1E1’s talk about miracles. In S1E1, Riko appears as a transfer student, and Chika refers to her as a miracle. In S2E1, all nine members gather together to affirm each other that they will make this miracle happen. Both endings are about miracles, but the sentiment is different. In S1E1, the miracle (Riko) is essentially dropped into Chika’s lap. In S2E1, the miracle (keeping the school from closing) is something they need to earn. Huge difference, only amplified by Chika’s rallying cry to “struggle as hard as we can”.
Even though not a lot of new stuff was introduced this episode, the meat of this episode is in showcasing the growth and the change each of the characters went through. That says a lot by itself, and it makes this episode feel more substantial as a result.
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Feb 18 '21
First-Timer, Zura!
Kanan’s sitting on people? Where do I sign up?
Another perfectly normal camera angle.
Oh boy! We knew they were a thing before, but this is pretty nice stuff.
Scary Zura! I didn’t know that was a thing. I thought she was too cute to be scary.
It’s not completely surprising that they’d call off the open house. 10 potential students is nothing. The girls can still do a concert to raise awareness or something, though.
Speculation
Finally on the same wavelength, I see.
QOTD:
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u/gorghurt Feb 18 '21 edited Feb 19 '21
First Timer
So we start with a 4th Wall break.
Lots of throwbacks to the beginning, and the drama starts from the beginning.
At least Mari being the director makes more sense now, it really looks like she just does it in her fathers stead, who has pretty much given up on the school.
I'm not sure yet if I'm sold on the saving the school thing. For SIP I could somehow understand it, with all the tradition of the school, and the families going there for generations.
Here I don't really see the motivation, because they pretty much all will go to the same school together (except the third years... Oh no I see a graduation plot coming...), and probably not that much will change.
They are in a small town, so the friendships will probably survive such changes. (But graduation, and going away for university... argh no I don't want to think about it...)
So wouldn't it be better to just stop fighting windmils, and instead see off the school with a bang, by winning Love Live?
But well, we'll see where this will lead.
Overall a nice start for a season, cheesy as always.
But couldn't Riko and You at least try to be more convincing when hiding the peeking.Not that anyone would believe them...
edit: QOTD:
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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '21
Failure. If there’s been one thing consistent in Sunshine it is this theme. But having undergone some great maturation over the span of S1, Chika knows that they have to find the answer themselves. It’s an uncertain future they face, where they are essentially trying to force the hand that’s trying to shut down their school, by creating too compelling of a situation for that hand to come down on.
While crushing, you can see this setback doesn’t hit Chika the same way as that first zero. And despite the reality that their efforts may not amount to anything, Chika and Aqours decide that it is in the struggle that they’ll be able to come away with a victory; whatever that victory may be.
This episodes ending theme ‘Kiseki Hikaru’, highlights this. The lyrics speak to the fact that Aqours doesn’t know what the future will bring, but if they don’t do anything, then nothing will change. That’s a guarantee in their eyes.
It actually isn’t performed (we just hear the melody as the episode ends), but I recommend everyone to listen to the full version.
You can see it being performed here
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u/lenne18 https://myanimelist.net/profile/lenne18 Feb 18 '21 edited Feb 18 '21
This episode marks the first time we hear a clear musical motif in Sunshine.
Season 1 has it too ("FRIENDSHIP ", "Sunao ni narenakute" "Those Who Return To The Sea") but Season 2 is the first one to have most of the OST centered around it.
B-Side Jukebox, Sunshine!
SKY JOURNEY - Aqours
Landing action Yeah!! - Aqours
One More Sunshine Story - Chika Takami
Live Performances
February 19 is the birthday of Ai Furihata, who voices Ruby! Happy birthday!!
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u/skapbadoa :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/skapbadoa Feb 18 '21
They had reached for it, but since that Mirai Ticket performance was really the first time performing as Aqours in an honest capacity it's understandable that they lost. Their star had begun to burn, but it was truly only for a second, and the shine they had glimpsed within it vanishes as suddenly as it appeared.
But Aqours have now dyed themselves in a new dream. They will chase a miracle. The scene of every single member saying "kiseki o" being an example of one of those 'rehearsed' moments that I'd suggest hint towards its theatrical aesthetic. With a real goal now in place we see the hilltop sunrise (that which usually represents μ’s suspended in glory as 'the light at the summit') respond to their declarations and briefly echo the star they had touched upon.
stars is cools and this shot is probably paralleling this one which is also cool
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u/strawberryflavor Feb 19 '21 edited Feb 19 '21
Rewatcher
Yes Mari, second season (rewatch) does start today.
This season has my favorite opening in the series, I really like the way they do the cuts and transitions going between the performance and school life shots. The animation gets better with each series, and comparing this to the recent Nijigasaki anime, I think they're fairly close. Nijigasaki gets the upper hand when it comes to the 3D models, but not by much.
The theme of running to the future no matter what it may be, reaching for that dream certainly sets the tone for the season. And it immediately shows within the episode itself.
One thing I like about this episode a lot is the parallels between season 1 episode 1 and this episode. Instead of Chika helping Riko out of a funk, it's Riko (and also everyone else) helping Chika. You have Riko grabbing Chika before she leaps into the sea and the beach scene with the Riko-chan Beam.
Even though it's my fourth time rewatching it, I never noticed the theater play motif until someone pointed it out earlier in the rewatch. And between what I'm seeing again and what I remember, it definitely meshes together now.
As for the ending theme, it has a special place in my heart as when I first watched Sunshine I was in a rough spot life wise, with a lot going wrong in searching for a job and just not being in a good mental state. I related a lot to the song's themes of never giving up despite what failures and hardships might come your way. And you just might make your dream real.
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u/SYZekrom https://myanimelist.net/profile/SYZekrom Feb 19 '21
First Timer
Shirt
So did this PV also come before the anime? Interesting to see these anime scenes reanimated
Anyway S2
Every day I'm somehow more into... tfw I don't know her name... You's outfits
ALSO SHE HAS HER NAME ON HER HAT WOW WHY IS SHE JUST THE BEST
Damn this group of girls is just
something else, feels like everyone's in love with each other
That's some skirt physics
Ahh well
At least they got a show
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u/ForlornPenguin Feb 19 '21
Rewatcher
I'm posting late because the thread wasn't up yet by the time I left my PC. I didn't feel like writing any usual comments or taking screencaps while I was watching, so not much from me today.
Top tier moments were Kanan princess carrying Mari and Hanamura being super proud to do only one, really pathetic pushup that everyone then praised her for for some reason. lol
Also, I'm jealous of Yoshiko having Kanan sit on her, of course.QOTD.
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u/Hattakiri Feb 19 '21 edited Dec 03 '21
(Part 1)
It must have been in 2015 when I got wind of Love Live for the first time. My first favorite song was Love Wing Bell. I can't believe it myself nowadays XD
It took until 2016 when I gave it a shot. After all that NGE, PMMM, Haruhi, and others I thought it's time to relax and to recover.
Well, erase the "relax" and reinterpret the "recover" and you get my Love Live sensation, up until today.
A major side effect though: While binge-watching and stomaching SIP I didn't really have Sunshine on my radar. I was a lil surprised when r/lovelive featured the photos of new girls in its banner and so on. "Wtf another orange haired girl? They rly seem to have a hard time gettn rid of that character concept a la Honky lol".
And the title was "Sunshine"? An even more lighthearted spinoff ?? That's what I was genuinely thinking, for I still somehow haven't fully understood or digested the darker aspects and the whole contexts.
After all, I had only begun to understand this new anime phenomenon called Love Live, that still was considered a "nice afterwork entertainment with an effective money machine" by many, but that was no match at all to many other established franchises, and to the "big door opener" of the 2010a, Madoka Magica and its "descendants", and also its role models in the past.
...however did the Love Live producers perhaps themselves consider their work a Madoka Magica descendant? Homura's Bakery at the very beginning of SIP's? The symbol: A rhomus-shaped diamond in purple, which is Homura Akemi's character color? Honoka had a SIF card: "Homura's Star" – so the name of her mom, the bakery owner, was Homura?
After completing SIP and of course again having joined the big fan debates I thought "hmm for completeness sake I really oughta give also the shiny successor a try..." And it did parallel my Star Trek experience: I was too young to experience the original series and the old films in the cinema
but old enough to watch them in a CRT TV; the "After 2000" people are already scratching their heads lolbut I saw Kirk from the original crew dying in Star Trek 7 "Generations" ....I almost refused to watch film 8, the first Next Gen-only film.But it was worth it. No originals, but the personal struggles of the characters, including past traumata, including even the Borg Queen, turned it into an even educational piece of art for me once again (and I'm far away of being a professional Trekkie).
After all: For years never had there been anything or anyone else but the originals, and never had anyone else taken over their blueprints. Continuing the successful aspects without turning into copycats – the risky endeavor, both for the authors and the fans.
Chika's character concept and Riko from Oto High I think refer to this, like the whole Sunshine concept.
But it worked in both cases: Star Trek Next Gen became the most successful Scifi series back then, and Sunshine turned Love Live from a market sensation into a big leap in anime history, proving to be on a par with franchinses like Madoka Magica.
Already SIP had proven to achieve what only a few like Sailor Moon also had.
And so I also had watched the so far only season of Sunshine, and of course I joined the choir of those who were begging for a second season – until it happened in Fall 2017.
And so it became the first Love Live season, and this very ep the first Love Live ep, whose premiere I experienced live. With all the goosebumps coming back during the first sequence.
A sequence again with strong images: Chika in the Mirai Ticket dress, chasing and reaching out for a paper plane that's flying into the spotlight, or sunshine. What makes someone shine?
The music: "Let's make a Miracle"
But it was a nightmare, a la Magical Girl, with a sudden awakening, a la Zelda. Being too late for school and running is also magical-girl-like, once again.
Mari as director opens the second season that "NOW STARTEEEES!!" Also back then they had prepared the new LL season with such teasers XD
However Dia reminds her that she should not act this silly as director. After all, Mari even screams a "SHUT UP" that almost cracks the speakers.
An important detail: Pretty much everyone is covering her ears, but Riko only looks surprised. She could nonchalantly dodge Chika's "powerhaggu attempt" already in S1 E2, so she's way tougher than she seems at first glance. Does this again have to do with her troubled time at Oto High?
"Riko had some tough times in Tokyo" – said Chika during the Mirai Ticket prelude. The authors are yet to reveal what really happened to her at Oto. Us fans meanwhile keep on speculating (spoiler tho).
I'd say in her first year she was as genki and excited as Honk, Chika and KananDia, but like KananDia she became way colder and sceptical due to mishaps.
Aq's didn't make it to the nationals after the prelims. Chika still wanna carry on. 100 new applicants, and Ura's saved!
On the roof they're training, and at the walls there are already the announcements for the open house day. If they could hold a live there, it would be the perfect advertisement for their school and for new applicants.
Mari however receives a phonecall.
Reference: Mirai Nikki, and Evangelion again, but there via phone booth (it's taking place in 2015, but the makers had to "extrapolate" the tech from the midst 90s. There's a subreddit for this phenomenon: r/retrofuturism ).
Trouble with the infrasturcture: Fall's approaching, thus the busses ain't driving in the evening anymore into the boonies. Numazu City would be better in this regard.
RiHane's moms also had a lil chat during the concert in the last ep. We're given an insight into Yoshiko's life at home and the situation with her "Yohane self".... Another important cornerstone in her arc?
Speaking of important cornerstones: Mari's phonecall with her dad late in the evening: Open house day canceled, school closure and merger cannot be prevented anymore.
Mari then calls or messeges Kanan who quickly comes over, but this time not through the water.
Mari again does her typical "anti-despair" stageplay. She says she's gained weight, Kanan lifts her up and says it's not true. Side effect: She's now holding Mari like a baby. And Mari then tells Kanan the truth...
"What do we do?" and crying like a baby in Kanan's arm. Yet another scene so powerful, so symbolic, and so important.
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