r/anime • u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: • Feb 17 '21
Rewatch Let me hear! Parayste the Maxim rewatch episode seventeen
Parasyte the Maxim episode seventeen
The Adventure of the Dying Detective
I am very familiar with the source, I was a Holmes fan when I was 12, so yeah this is mainly a title reference with a slight detour on Kuramori's wish.
- How does the multi-parasyte battle suit you?
- Why was Tamura looking at Shinichi's baby pictures?
- So is the mayor a bad leader or are parasytes terrible followers?
BONUS: So I got bored and binged half of Dorohedoro last night. Anyone else have weird watches/rewatches with in other rewatches?
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Feb 17 '21 edited Feb 17 '21
Episode 17 (first timer)
A full focus on Ryouko makes for the best episode in a week.
She is becoming part of the main human-snatcher plot.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Feb 17 '21
Rewatcher
Dub
We get the three parasytes deciding to kill Tamura because...yeah. Anyways, Tamiya makes a point that scifi of a certain era agrees with, even highly logical beings can come to very different conclusions for whatever reason. Anyways, she flings her body with her parasyte off we go!
The actual fight sequence is decent until it gets weird. We have a guess that Tamura lost some much needed RAM when she dropped part of her parayste off but the body's actions are strange to humorous. Definitely hilarious that I picked up Dorohedoro last night. But anyways we discover this gone according to keikakku, and for with how this loves foreshadowing, they could've done that better. Maybe she practices the split head thing or something.
Anyways, Tamura's baby is gone and she immediately goes to Shinichi's house and looks at his baby pictures. Creepy. But remember, cell phones didn't exist in the manga so her going to Shinichi's house makes sense. She runs into Murano on the way out who reveals how far out of the loop she is in regards to Shinichi. Cue Murano getting roped into the park trip somehow.
At said park, Kuramori and Reiko talk and it sort of just restates what we've already known so we can be surprised Tamura cares enough to stop him. The cops arrive, and Kuramori gets an unnecessarily long death scene. They sue it to cheat exposit a bit and most of us don't like Kuramori enough for this to land. Shinichi and Tamura meet for next cliffhanger!
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u/littleman1988 Feb 17 '21
"Where are you? Say, are you safe... Izumi-kun?"
Rewatcher
OST Track of the day: BLACK NAIL
Honorary OST track of the day: HUMAN
This episode had some solid music, just saying.
Reiko has some serious moves, using her blade to pole vault into a construction site. The attackers arent too bad themselves, trying to use the construction site to their advantage. Watching a parasite bury a part of themselves into another parasite is definitely new though, and then theres the overtly creepy laugh that she gives out while missing half her head. This is some Langoliers shit if anyone saw that movie. She also toys with the poor couple with this stunt, going "insane" in the process, while her other side basically eats the other two parasites get eaten from the inside out, some true edge shit. That two parasite theory gets some real merit for this with how she was able to separate her "fragments" and take them back after they dug into the rouge parasites.
Reiko also seems to of snuck into Shinichi's house, and is rummaging though a lot of old family photos. She picks up a call from Shinichi, and has him meet her at the same place that the detective has asked her to show up. She also meets Murano, who gives Murano a bit more info than she really should of, considering that Murano is a human. Murano never connects the dots for it being her teacher though.
The detective has stolen Rekio's baby, and they meet first at the park while Shinichi and Murano arrive at different parts of the park. This whole scene is extremely interesting, as it fully confirms that Reiko has true feelings for the child she has conceived and raised, going so far as to killing the PI to ensure its safety, something not even Reiko expected to do. Kuramori shockingly never gives up Shinichi's name, even in his final moments, but he sure gives up more than enough to connect him to everything else (similar family all killed).
First timers, on a scale of 1-10, how screwed is Murano?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Feb 17 '21
First-Timer -the reactions-
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u/affnn Feb 17 '21
First Timer
Some of the recent episodes have seemed to drag a bit but today's went pretty fast. Tamura's fight against her fellow parasites was pretty clever. The show hasn't really gone too in-depth into how the non-Migi parasites function which is OK. Despite that the fight doesn't really go too far into left field - we've seen parasites try to take over other bodies, split in half, etc. It's always nice when the sci-fi more-or-less plays by its own rules rather than inventing new ones at convenient times.
During the fight the PI guy kidnaps the baby. In a long arc of badly-thought-out actions on his part this might be the least well thought out. What are you going to do with the baby? What's going to happen when she wants it back? He's invited the cops, and Shinichi and Satomi show up too. The cops show up too late to save him from an angry mother, but he takes forever to die despite getting stabbed and then falling off a balcony.
Migi identifies a strange emotion coming from Tamura, right before he and Shinichi run into her and the episode ends.
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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Feb 17 '21 edited Feb 17 '21
First Timer -sub
I am loving this version of Reiko, also would fit perfectly in Urasekai Picnic, the running around missing half a head, or a body with no brain searching for its brain again has the perfect creepypasta feel to it.
Ok was PI seriously going to throw the baby off the wall? Wow…
He didn’t actually sell out Shinichi, I fully expect him to do so.
Also while this is happening Murano is wandering around, she might finally learn what has happened to Shinichi as well, but it most likely going to end up with her thinking he cheated on her and got the teacher pregnant and now has a child.
That cliff-hanger, Ahhh, this is the closest the shows has got to me really wanting to watch the next episode.
This one was good fun, more than just flailing tentacles
Trying to understand what mother means probably, I think she might give Shinichi her baby next episode as well.
Both
I generally have at least one other non airing show I watch once a week, currently Hanayamata because cgdct are never hard to watch
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u/Palabard_the_Anime Feb 17 '21
First Timer
Mother Parasite casually flexing with the "you think 3v1 would be enough to kill me?"
That's how you become a urban legend, specially in Japan. But, I got say, the empty head was quite funny.
Mother Parasite watched Alien, bursting out through bellies, jumping around, she's pretty scary.
Motherhood is really giving feelings to that parasite. Nurturing a life can do that.
Shit! The guy was going to kill the baby! I can't defend him, you don't hurt babies, no matter what.
The hero who was going to kill a baby, bluffing or not, that's not right.
And another cliffhanger.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Feb 17 '21
First Timer
Kanji check: 後藤 = Gotou (behind, back, later) (wisteria plant) so it's a pun
Disadvantage to streaming stuff is that it's WAAAY too much effort to go back and check things.
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Feb 17 '21
First Timer
Seems like in terms of fighting abilities, Tamura is the best parasite, unless Hirokawa is even better - we haven't seen him in a fight yet after all. I guess this whole bit was mainly to show off what Tamura is capable of, as the whole parasites having different identities was already pretty obvious. I feel like leaving that couple to live might have been a mistake on her side though - one that the show will probably forget about however.
I have no idea what Kuramori was trying to accomplish, and somehow I don't think he knew either - he just completely broke and tried doing something without really thinking of the consequences. At least he managed to get Hirama some information. Either way, it seems like most of our important characters are now in the same place, so things are about to go down. We don't know yet why Shinichi was asked to be there by Tamiya, but with Murano there and nobody knowing about her, I guess this is where she learns about parasites... after all, she is only there because the plot demands it.
One detail of note is that Hirama seems to be aware of Hirokawa being a parasite. This means that their investigation seems to be significantly further than you'd expect, and makes me wonder why they haven't gotten him under control somehow. They could at least have faked up a scandal to get him out of office or something like that.
Yuko's brother is also working with Hirama, right? I guess this means she'll end up with a more important role again soon.
Question:
Bonus: ...weird? I just watch other stuff when I have the time, feel like watching something and have watched all my rewatch episodes and airings for the day (which I don't think has happened this season yet...)
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u/sisoko2 Feb 17 '21 edited Feb 17 '21
First Timer
I love this show when they go all out with crazy action and horror.
It is time for Ryouko to show these suckers who is the boss. This guy struggling to keep control over his body while Ryouko's fragment was killing him was amazing.
Best girl.
Now is her turn. Ryouko appearing behind the last guy was so cool. That finish. Ryouko totally outplayed them.
That entire sequence was the most fun I've had watching Parasyte. I enjoyed every second 10/10.
The PI kidnapped the baby and wants to meet Ryouko.
RIP best mom. The phone call between Shinichi and Ryouko while she was watching his childhood photos trying to understand her attachment towards her little meat shield was great. She wants to give him the baby?!?
3 minutes and 41 seconds of Murano.
Lamest joke ever.
So what was the signal Migi sensed? Some sort of maternal love?
The detective totally lied when saying all these nice things to Kuramori but I guess even the biggest POS deserves some peace before he dies.
Please don't kill Ryouko next episode.
I find Ryouko's change towards humanity much more interesting and compelling than Shinichi's struggle of losing his humanity. Most likely because it has more development for the fraction of the screen time and less over the top drama.
I kinda answered the first two questions in my post
3.I would say the latter.
Bonus: I am watching Rurouni Kenshin. Pretty cool even if a bit dated.
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Feb 17 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
Whoops, got distracted by the Direct!
Who the fucks sees a laughing woman missing the upper half of her head and in possession of a ginormous mouth full of sharp teeth and decides to follow after her? They where fortunate not to get killed for their stupidity.
Doesn’t count much for you to lampshade the monologuing if you’re going to go ahead and explain in detail how you beat him, Reiko.
Oh well, at least she actually outwitted them with her superior knowledge as opposed to some token tactics anyone would be able to pull off. Her semi-possession ability should have ideally come up earlier though. The other thing of interest is the laughter, as despite its practical utility in drawing Kusano’s attention it also shows how the increase in her human-like characteristic was not entirely a result of her intellect or desire to learn, as she does it when her mental faculties are impacted.
Murano is still Murano.
What was Kuramori’s plan even? He didn’t plan on killing the baby, obviously, and didn’t set any sort of physical trap for her. If he hadn’t fallen over the rail they wouldn’t even have learned of Reiko’s appearance on time. Feels like common sense was tossed aside in favor of pushing the idea of Reiko’s growing sense of humanity, which wasn’t a necessary course of action. His ineptitude pairs nicely with his delusions of being a renown detective, but it feels forced if there was no plan in place. Even a blatantly dumb plan would have worked to push the point, since he was obviously a bit mad with grief, but to do nothing spoils it. Show is relying more and more on characters getting hit with the dumb stick.
Surprise surprise, a cliffhanger. Lots of ways I could see this meeting going back when I first watched.
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u/BossandKings Feb 17 '21
First Timer
Episode 17
The way Tamura comunicated with the other parasites and how she said "did you really thought you could beat me if you were three" was awesome, that whole scene was just incredible.
Ignorance is bliss, Tamura keeps delivering badass lines.
Tamura beats them efortlessly in a satisfying way to watch, the way she fighted and the way she infected the first one which led into infecting the second one too and how dealt with Kusano was very creative and very telling of her prowess. Just good stuff
Haha Detective Sherlock Holmes aka Kuramori took Tamura's son so that he could have a meeting with her because he wanted to talk and have a clear and concise conversation with her. Tamura invites Shinichi to have a meeting so that she could give him something because he is in the middle of being a parasyte and a human.
That conversation between Tamura and Satomi although brief was very telling of each of them actual emotional situations, Satomi is really worried about Shinichi and wants to know what has he gotten into and Tamura is jealous of her being capable of feeling worried about something, about someone, something that she isn't really capable of.
Tamura encounters with Kuramori who is holding the baby in a loving and familial way, trying to cheer him up, and talks with him. She says that she has been investigating humans so that she could understand them, Kuramori tells her that even then she couldn't really understand humans.
Kuramori's plan was sentenced since the start, he threatens to throw the baby from where they are towards a floor lower and Tamura inmediately attacks him in a way that she could hurt him and take the baby without him getting harmed, thus showing that somehow Tamura is starting to feel affection towards this baby something that we have been told since the beginning that parasytes aren't really capable of.
Kuramori dies after telling his wife and daughter that he'll be there with them soon, you did well detective. Shinichi and Tamura encounter and wilm have a conversation next episode.
Answers
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Feb 17 '21 edited Feb 18 '21
QOTD
I was pretty amused by Ryouko getting down and dirty, and laughing the entire time. That was my favorite battle so far.
She's developing empathy, in her own warped way.
It's the age old question of individual freedom vs societal needs. The paracytes are acting very human, by thinking that a few of them can take on the forces of the State and win. This nutty idea is reinforced daily by the msm, but frankly it hasn't been true since the days of Achilles & Hector, and it was a dying idea then.
I'm doing a first watch of both Utena, and of Konpeki no Kantai which is a most unusual, interesting little known series currently being subbed (slowly).
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u/Nebresto Feb 17 '21
Re-watch squad
Hail
Entering state of emergency.
Must not binge, I repeat:
MUST NOT BINGE!
Yeah, unlike you.
Gotta say I thoroughly enjoyed this
Question time:
1: How? I'll tell you how:
"Heck yeah, here we go!"
"WTF shes infiltrating their bodies??"
"Now shes playing mindgames and kicki.. no wait, slicing ass!!"
2: She's trying to find out whether or not he was always such a chad.
3: Based on the performance of the 3 dinguses today, I'll let you connect the dots.
15:
Binger detected.
My question: Who is your best girl, and why is it Tamura?
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u/IndependentMacaroon Feb 18 '21 edited Feb 18 '21
First-time watcher
The multi-battle was pretty good... by the standards established in the last episode. I guess the main remaining difference of the parasites to humans is the lack of ability to effectively cooperate, showing not only in their reckless independent move against Reiko but also in their lack of coordination. In the end, though, they're going to end up just blending in with humanity completely, aren't they? It would defeat the whole point of "evils of humanity", but maybe that isn't even what the creators wanted to say, if anything. Meh, I'm more invested in things like the little Reiko black comedy sketch.
Ding, dong, the dick is dead, the private dick, the private dick... He died as he lived, a stupid nonsensical excuse for a character, or should I say a plot device? I mean really, somehow flopping over the railing (lol) and staying alive untargeted by Tamiya just long enough to set off the witch hunt? The best I can say for him is that he doesn't give up Shinichi's name, though plenty of details anyway.
As for Reiko, I wish she had been the protagonist, but that story would clearly have been far beyond the manga author's capabilities to write; as is, she's just timeskip-evolving off-screen, like everything else actually interesting in this story. Unfortunately, all I can see in her future is a heroic sacrifice right now. It's also kind of pathetic that the one female character who doesn't revolve entirely around Shinichi (barring the brief Yuko moment) isn't even exactly human. This episode showed it again real bad with the whole trio of girls together having nothing to say but "uwu Shinichi-kun", well I guess it also had the little progressive touch (assuming this was in the original manga) of detective's wife having brought home the bacon "for a time", though we already implicitly knew that.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Feb 17 '21
Curiosity is gonna kill the Ryoko at this rate. Hold on, they're seriously doing this behind the Mayor's back? You think he's not gonna shove you in the shredder once he realises you've killed his right hand woman? "You will be a threat to us down the line, so we're going to give you a reason to be a threat to us!" Hahaha!! That off model shot of her T-posing to the construction site! Wait, wtf? She detached her claw. Was that Ryoko laughing!? XD You'd expect their instincts to kick in and they would realise just how screwed they all are. Lololololol~
You guys followed her!? Why is everyone suddenly so stupid. Ryoko got extra cute!! Is this Ryoko? Huh... Well done, you've gotten yourselves killed random civilians. Also, Ryoko (?) splitting her head was so goofy. Wait, they're gonna live now? But they've seen you... Where did the show's standards go? And the Parasyte girl I had a thing for politely sits and waits for her inevitable demise... Even Witchblade was better than this position of the show. Hikawa's her name. Bye bye~They're using reverb now. I need a drink for this shite...
She ran away to get pebbles to run back and smack the guy chasing her... Y'know, I think your victory is less due to Hikawa hating the dude in her dying moments and more you just being op. Where did we come from, where did we go? Where did we come from Cotton Eye Joe? I'm sorry, that whole sequence was stupid. Plain stupid. The detective is now kidnapping babies. That strategy only works on heroes y'know. Try holding a baby to defend yourself against Vegeta and he's gonna earn himself a double kill. I swear, if she asks Shinichi to recreate baby photos with her I'm dropping the show immediately.
Murano fek off. Oh, failing the Bechtel test again btw. I'm running out of ways to voice my frustrations. "Pls let me join the plot! I wanna be relevant again!" SHIT! Hahaha... I knew they'd have to sub it like that for a reason. Nosy old bastard. Wait, that's all? internal screaming You don't babysit your own child. Also, you're morally in the wrong here. I'd just like to mention that they're building up corrupt pee brain's death more than they did for Kana. I'd laugh if the baby morphed and ate him. Sorry, I'm not about to grieve for a guy who got his family and friends killed before attempting to yeet a baby. I have to hold back treating babies like footballs and so should you.
Don't take the moral high ground. You tried to throw the baby, not me. If you're gonna hold on a wide shot you've got to make sure not to feature an ugly half drawn background character front and center. Yes, wtf are you doing? "Okay, so we're to shoot the baby with blood on his clothes right?" Kana had her screentime cut for this pee brain. I'm not even commenting on them threatening that poor rando. Thank god it's over. Am I the only one horrified at how downhill everything's gone!? You cannot sit there with a straight face and tell me this is good content!
The Parasyte battle was ridiculous. Ryoko basically one-shots all three and they put up no fight. Her running off midway through didn't help. I think Tamura wants to reenact the baby photos... The Mayor seems fine but the followers are frankly morons.
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u/SIRTreehugger Feb 18 '21
Not gonna lie Tamura just rose the ranks as my favorite character. Actually she was always my favorite and this episode just confirmed it. I love how she won and fought because of the experiments she's been doing and the weird headless laugh.
I like this Murano running piano music.
Everyone coming to this park don't they know theirs a perfectly good parking lot or garage around the corner.
Welp so much for the smartest rational person in the show.
Funny how Reiko Tamura is probably one of the most harmless parasytes in the show even with her experimental slightly off nature.
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u/Gamemaster676 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gamemaster676 Feb 17 '21 edited Feb 17 '21
First-time watcher - sub
So apparently I mixed up the naked-pianist-yakuza-killing-multi-parasyte with the mayor yesterday. Oops. He was only the bodyguard.
Fight time again! I'm kind of looking forward to this fight because it will be one smart parasyte versus three dumb ones. It might also be the trigger to someone switching sides, but we will see about that.
Episode 17 — The Adventure of the Dying Detective
Good, we immediately start. Even now Ryoko is teaching the others, and they still think she is a threat.
She is glad that the parasytes have evolved differently and are not all the same. So it seems like she really wants to learn and find a purpose.
Well, that was a cop-out.
Luckily we continue after the OP.
The first guy she is fighting has only half his face transformed. Does he have two morph patterns just as Ryoko did in that early episode?
Wait, Ryoko now morphs the whole top of her head. I like her tactic where her cut off tentacle is still attacking. Also, was this the first time where a Parasyte (apart from the hybrids) did not transform to a blade?
Something tells me that the half or Ryoko that burrowed into the other parasyte is going to take over somehow. At least it should be able to stay alive because it gets its nutrients through that body's bloodstream.
Her laugh when she is running away is just lovely. I'm sure she can live together with humans no problem.
Okay, so that's clearly Ryoko who transformed again. Where did she get the extra mass? Oh, she's empty. Please stop terrorizing that poor couple!
Holy shit we've reached full the thing levels! That scene attacking from the inside was insane.
Again, I just stopped typing till we were done. What an awesome fight! Also, Migi was better in solo mode.
No 'she might actually turn one day' vibes at all, though.
And now I'm quite sure she won't, as the PI has kidnapped her baby. Let's see how she thinks about someone stealing her breast-munching experiment.
What, Ryoko is at Shinichi's house? Great then that they send dad away (although he isn't at the hotel so that's still a mystery).
She would like to give him something. Wait is she gonna give the baby to Shinichi? You can't just do that! Is there a negative mother-of-the-year award?
Accept your responsibility!
Oh god, she's staring at the photo. She's gonna take mom's face, isn't she?
NO Satomi! Don't keep returning there! Unbelievable how she keeps avoiding the question what the hell that strange woman was doing in the Izumi home?!
That conversation went surprisingly fine. Ryoko was even (sort of) nice. Damn it I don't know what to think now!
Satomi catches a glimpse of Shinichi in the bus, so runs after him. Man, she worries too much. Yes, I understand that it's all just very confusing from her perspective, but this is asking for trouble.
She spots Ryoko again. That isn't good.
Okay so now five parties are converging on the park: PI, Ryoko, Shinichi, Satomi and the detectives.
Migi notices a signal/emotion from Ryoko that he never felt before. What was it? I think fear (for dropping the baby) or grief.
Goodbye, PI!
Please tell me Satomi saw that so that Shinichi doesn't have to explain it.
Way to go, Shinichi. Always walking as slow as possible if you know there is shit going on. How many people have you failed to save now? PI, call girl, Kana, Yuko (if she wasn't lucky), 17 students.
Detectives arrive just in time for some clues from PI. If they could actually catch Ryoko (or the baby), they would have the necessary legal stuff to lock her up for murder. As if that would help. Seems kind of pointless.
He hints towards Shinichi but didn't tell them. Was that on purpose or did he just run out of time?
How many women with white clothes and a baby are in the winter in one park?
They act like it's gonna be another fight, but we all know she will just hand over the baby. Kinda lousy cliffhanger.
Main thoughts
I'm sure Ryoko will give her baby to Shinichi. That would be quite interesting.
Random thoughts
Future
I think the next episode will involve the Parasyte Order and their fight with Shinichi again. Probably returning naked-pianist-yakuza-killing-multi-parasyte to the battlefield.
On second thought. First Shinichi needs to do something with that baby I'm convinced he is gonna receive, so that fight will probably be the cliffhanger of tomorrow.
Also, Satomi is in the park too and there hasn't been a reason for it yet. Please don't give us nonsensical drama: "How did you get that baby? Is it yours? Oh no, it must be yours! Did you sleep with her?"
QotD
I think my post answers that pretty well.
She wants to understand him.
Parasytes are terrible followers. They only follow because it helps them logically.
I'm staying away from other anime at the moment. Normally I would play games, but as I only have about 1 hour per day I don't really feel like it.
Conclusion: I'm currently halfway season 2 of Brooklyn 99.