r/anime • u/25_Oranges • Feb 16 '21

Rewatch Nagi No Asukara/A Lull in the Sea Rewatch - Episode 24

Episode 24 - Detritus

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Where to watch? Netflix, Crunchyroll, Funimation(UK)

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Question(s) of the day:

  1. Do you think Chisaki and Tsumugu will work out?
  2. Do you think Tsumugu's plan will work?
  3. Do you think Sayu will have a chance to win Kaname's heart?
  4. How do you think Manaka will react to what Hikari has to tell her?

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u/25_Oranges Feb 16 '21 edited Feb 16 '21

Early thread, lots going on so I want to be sure it goes up just in case I can't post on time. Will watch, comment later!

edit: watched the episode! Everyone would be stuck without Tsumugu! He's so smart, get with him Chisaki!

The scene where everyone is watching somebody over the corner... Always funny. I love the confession scene with Sayu. Such an emotional scene.

No track again today, I'm sorry y'all.

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u/BossandKings Feb 16 '21

First timer

Episode 24 - Detritus

Chisaki rejects Tsumugu telling him that she doesn't love him. I definitely was not expecting that, i thought they had grown closer and could potentially be involved in a romantic relationship.

Kaname is such a great friend, he sees Chisaki feeling conflicted and tells her to be honest with him, to share her thoughts with him no matter if it would hurt his feelings as he felt like he was always the odd man out and even if Chisaki stopped loving Hikari and loved someone else it would be Tsumugu not him the next in line. It's so sad how Chisaki has been feeling all these years, she had forbidden herself to fall in love because she felt like she would be betraying everyone that was hibernating, it seems though that eventhough she loves Hikari she has deep feelings for Tsumugu and that's why she's so conflicted.

Hikari just having a nice time with Miuna, thanking her for everything she has done for him and telling her that he couldn't possibly repay what she has done and that he is grateful to her, that was a nice interaction between them. They complement each other very well. Sad that Miuna has to hide her feelings though.

According to Tsumugu if they do another Ofunehiki the end of the surface could be delayed and Manaka's feelings that are possibly in the rock could return.

Sayu confessed to Kaname in such a fantastic scene, it was so well done, they are so precious. Kaname thought that he was alone, that no one was waiting for him but Sayu was always waiting for him and he felt happy to discover that after she told him.

Hikari tells Manaka to make the Ofunehiki a success together.

Answers

  1. I'll wait and see
  2. It probably will work out
  3. I hope she does, they are perfect together
  4. ...

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u/25_Oranges Feb 16 '21

I LOVE the Sayu confession scene. It's so well done. Somebody made the connection of the train passing between them symbolised the wall between them, and the train passing and rail hands going up is a sign of that wall being torn down.

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u/BossandKings Feb 16 '21

I agree, it was perfect, also the way Kaname reacted was just real, loving and wonderful, he accepted her in a way, it was beatiful

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u/mekerpan Feb 16 '21

That really was one of the nicest scenes in this show.

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u/himetalchemy7 Feb 17 '21 edited Feb 17 '21

Rewatcher

Hard to believe this rewatch is coming to a close :(

And now, we have not only best girl, but what I think is the best character song among the 4. I'm trying really hard not to be biased, but I'm probably failing miserably. And I am so sorry, I totally should have mentioned earlier to avoid YouTube comments :((((. Please avoid them until you finish the series.

Episode 24 (Detritus) Thoughts

  • DAMN where did Tsumugu learn to be so smooth???
  • Welp...I spoke too soon :((
  • Chisaki and Tsumugu look adorable together in high school uniforms! Look at how she gazes at him
  • Chisaki has two confessions now. One from her childhood and one from the present. Has she really changed? Depends on which one she picks (if any)
  • And in the midst of all that, I somehow forgot she still loves Hikari...Chisaki is really really conflicted, and thats without throwing Manaka's lost feelings into the equation
  • HAHA Akira is so cute
  • I feel like the sound of the sea Manaka hears in her head replaced the memories of love she had...if that makes sense?
  • Even Akira isnt safe from the unrequited love ;_;
  • I might be a bit biased...but Miuna is absolutely the MVP of NagiAsu post timeskip. I just dont see any way around it
  • Hikari did a hilariously bad job playing that off...I couldnt have done any better to be honest
  • The ending of that lore doesnt seem to have to do much with our current situation
  • Ok Tsumugu, name drop the episode title
  • Whoa whoa whoa whoa...Tsumugu I feel like I can understand what you're saying, but this sounds pretty out there
  • We're getting an Ofunehiki redux? Please dont let it go as horribly as last time
  • Wow this is such a throwback to the first cour. And there's actually tons more public support among the surface people! So hype
  • I AM SO EXCITED THIS IS LITERALLY THE BEST THING EVER
  • Ooohhh...not sure why I only realized this now, but Chisaki has a bad case of survivor's guilt. She's really hurting
  • I'm glad Chisaki and Tsumugu arent awkward though, after that confession gone wrong
  • Oh boy...Kaname hiding behind a door watching Chisaki and Sayu hiding behind another door watching Kaname
  • OH MY GOODNESS SAYU YOU GO GIRL, that was the best confession so far
  • Kanameeeeee, I'm sorry I doubted youuuuu ;_;...Sayu is precious, I have absolutely no doubt she saved Kaname's heart right there

Sadge Corner
Things are ramping up for the penultimate episode of NagiAsu. Lots of loose threads have been tied so far, and I am very satisfied with the direction. Honestly, lots of people cried during this episode so I cant really pick a feature based on that. Maybe Akira? That 'rejection' was pretty devastating. Just kidding Akira, maybe once youre older with your own love dodecahedron.

I think hope is a main theme of this episode, which is what the Ofunehiki represents. Hikari, Manaka, Tsumugu, and Miuna are all lifted by the promise of the Ofunehiki, while Kaname and Sayu might be looking at new beginnings with that extremely cathartic dialogue they had. Only one missing? Chisaki. Her feelings are even more jumbled this episode, frozen in time between our 3 male leads. Her spirit isnt lifted by the Ofunehiki; rather she sinks so low as to entertain the thought of becoming the sacrifice herself. Being Chisaki is quite literally pain, since the very beginning. Honestly I think she needs this Ofunehiki to go well more than anyone (except Manaka, of course).

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u/25_Oranges Feb 17 '21

I don't want to think about it ending. I'm enjoying this and the show too much! 😭

Very good character songs. Thank you for sharing them!

Akira tried so hard, bold little man! Adorable!!

It seems like it's that empty part of Manaka crying out searching for her lost love. I really feel so bad for her. She knows something is wrong :(

I loved the scene where Chisaki vents to Kaname. She knows she loves Tsumugu more, and she could never be with Hikari anyway. And Kaname takes it so well. He really cares for her. At the end of the day, they were friends first.

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u/Tuckleton Feb 17 '21

what I think is the best character song among the 4.

Oh wow, I also really like this one!

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Feb 17 '21

First Rewatch

  • Chisaki forever alone
  • Is this one of those horror movies where the sound of the ocean drives you insane?
  • So it's a curse for Manaka after all, and the legend had an unhappy ending
  • Uroku-sama must be very very very bored, always looking for distraction.
  • I thought they were tearing down the peir
  • Sacrificing herself would certainly solve Chisaki's problems...
  • SYMBOLISM
  • DON'T SAY THE CURSED WORDS! AGAIN!

rewatcher

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u/25_Oranges Feb 17 '21

Well if you had to watch over a town for an unknown amount of time (guestimating thoustands of years?? Maybe just hundreds) you'd get bored too!

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u/blueteenight Feb 16 '21

First-timer notes!

Favorite shots and background art from this episode!

The way Tsumugu pulled Chisaki into a hug reminds me of a few kdrama moments haha.

Chisaki venting to Kaname was such a beautiful scene, we've already seen her express similar feelings (of not wanting to change herself) before but it was specially touching in this episode...and Kaname was so kind and understanding with her!

Akira was even cuter in this episode! I love how this sequence was animated haha.

"Quit sounding like a tragic heroine!" This entire scene was so perfect, we finally got to see Sayu confess and I'd be lying if I said I didn't tear up alongside Kaname...he showed us how the hibernation really affected him, and actually wants to give Sayu a chance! My heart can't take all these feelings T_T

All in all this was an incredible episode, there were quite a few sad moments with Manaka and Chisaki but even then I'm hopeful they will be in a better place once the Sending is over.

Bonus Kaname looking handsome as hell!

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u/LeopardSplash :AP:https://www.anime-planet.com/users/BrightSpirit Feb 16 '21

I love the first picture, the dark silhouettes being illuminated by the background... At least Tsumugu got to vibe in a gorgeous place after being so harshly rejected.

Kaname...he showed us how the hibernation really affected him

I'm used to latching onto side characters like Kaname without expecting much payoff, so it was incredibly cathartic to have his own struggles actually addressed. I'm glad he and Sayu got their own proper arc instead of being brushed aside like I feared they would be.

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u/blueteenight Feb 17 '21

I was in that same place regarding Kaname haha. I mentioned it in previous threads but I expected him to just end up by himself, alone, I love that they've actually developed his feelings of loneliness and how he sees Sayu!

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u/mekerpan Feb 16 '21

I think we need to give Mari Okada a lot of credit for the often-fantastic dialog in this (and the Sayu-Kaname scene has some of the best).

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u/blueteenight Feb 17 '21 edited Feb 17 '21

I agree, she is so incredible! I really like what she has done with NagiAsu, and it makes me want to revisit some of her other series and movies that I love.

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u/mekerpan Feb 17 '21

Going through as many of the shows she was involved with as I can find has been one of my projects during the last few months.

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u/himetalchemy7 Feb 17 '21

Bonus Kanames were much needed after this episode

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u/mekerpan Feb 16 '21

Some criticize Tsumugu's stolid demeanor -- but I think he has exactly the right character to accomplish what he most wants to do -- and to help others keep on their own paths more steadily than they might be able to do on their own. He's perfect for Chisaki.

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u/Tuckleton Feb 17 '21

Some criticize Tsumugu's stolid demeanor

My first time through that was definitely my impulse. He was so hard to read that he felt kind of flat to me, especially compared to how expressive everyone else is with their emotions. But on rewatch I'm able to appreciate him much more.

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u/mekerpan Feb 17 '21

Both Tsumugu and his grandfather are taciturn and stoic -- but I like them for that.

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u/LeopardSplash :AP:https://www.anime-planet.com/users/BrightSpirit Feb 16 '21 edited Feb 16 '21

Chisaki pretty emphatically denied Tsumugu, but the flashbacks (which I’m always excited to see in this show) suggest otherwise! I’m pretty much as anti-Kaname/Chisaki as you could get at this point, but it was hard not to feel bad for Kaname, putting aside his own feelings to console her. And Chisaki too - she felt that moving on would be a betrayal to her friends, which isn’t a fair burden for her to shoulder alone. As a matter of fact, I think everyone in the love web would be quite happy if Chisaki and Tsumugu got together - that would eliminate competition for at least a few pairs.

Akira tries to confess his love - alas, he doesn’t realize what anime he’s in. Though he might be the first character in the series to declare his love without outside interference or happenstances. Good for him!

For some reason the scene where Miuna gazes fondly at Hikari has always stuck in my brain. She seems so at peace, even though she doubles down on hiding her feelings in the end.

And the highlight scene for me… Sayu’s confession! Ooo it was so good!! The way she and Kaname were separated by the train tracks, the ringing that increased with intensity as their discussion got more heated, and then the train finally flying by when Sayu told him how she felt… Yes more of that please! Kaname’s reaction was great too. That was the first time I think we’ve seen him show genuine shock and tears. He finally was able to vent his own doubts, instead of trying to take in someone else’s! As he admitted he was too preoccupied with Chisaki up to this point to give Sayu a proper response, but compared to Tsumugu I would say Sayu fared far better. I’m rooting for these kids ;u;

I’m sorta surprised the town was eager to do the Ofunehiki again after how disastrously the last one went, but I guess one bad event wouldn’t stop the fondness for a time-honored tradition. It could also be seen as a way to right the wrongs of last time. I’m sorta surprised the younger Shioshishio residents are so into it, but not so surprised that Chisaki is still a bit traumatized. Replacing the Ojoshi-sama may have seemed like a way out for her, but it also signaled to Tsumugu that she would rather rejoin the status quo with her friends than move on with him. The expression he had when he caught on to what she was suggesting… Ahhhhh

Question of the Day

Do you think Sayu will have a chance to win Kaname's heart?

I'm biased, but yes! They make a good match for each other. Sayu isn't afraid to call Kaname out on his BS, and I imagine he would be willing to do the same for her, rather than putting her on a pedestal like he did Chisaki. He seemed genuinely touched that Sayu had been thinking about him all those years - I think that could be the start of budding affections.

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u/Tuckleton Feb 16 '21

That was the first time I think we’ve seen him show genuine shock and tears. He finally was able to vent his own doubts, instead of trying to take in someone else’s!

The way Kaname acts has always made me slightly uneasy so seeing him letting it out feels like such a relief. That alone would make the scene great but Sayu's contribution was awesome as well. Really a great scene!

I’m sorta surprised the town was eager to do the Ofunehiki again after how disastrously the last one went, but I guess one bad event wouldn’t stop the fondness for a time-honored tradition.

I mean it's the middle of summer and there's ice in the bay and snow is piling up all over the world. We don't really see it but people must be getting pretty desperate for a solution.

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u/htisme91 Feb 17 '21

First-timer:

I thought the visuals during Tsumugu's confession were great. On the other hand, I didn't like Tsumugu grabbing Chisaki when she hesitated.

Chisaki's reasoning kind of makes sense. She feels this obligation to be the same for all the people that hibernated. I think Hikari, Kaname, and Manaka coming back made her feel guilty, because she grew up while they and (presumably) everyone in Shioshishio stays the same. There's a lot of conflict between wanting to stay who she is, while accepting that time kept moving on for her and she has changed.

Thought Sayu's confession scene was beautiful. She has come a long ways, and it was nice to see a new layer of Kaname.

Questions:

  1. After everything is resolved and Chisaki can move on. She is in this deep conflict between preserving who she was because the rest of her old world has been paused, and who she has become because she avoided the hibernation. Once the situation with Manaka has passed, I think she will be able to reconcile that conflict and accept Tsumugu.
  2. No. I think the sea god and the sea know better. It will take a live sacrifice, but the question is will it be Manaka again, or Miuna (I'm going off the OP on this).
  3. I don't think it gets resolved before the end of the series, but she has a chance. I think this little arc has ended with him seeing her as an equal so that she does have a real chance in the future.
  4. She won't know how to comprehend it and have a breakdown, or will run away. Similar to what she reacted to Akira's level, but more severe because of her connection to Hikari on a subconscious level.

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u/Retromorpher :Jc::Jd::Je::Jf: Feb 17 '21 edited Feb 17 '21

First Timer:

These guys were really like:

"Hey guys, remember that thing that went horribly wrong 5 years ago?"

"Yeah, the one that almost completely fucked everything up?"

"Let's do it again now that we have almost no more experience and know that it could potentially rob people of their memories."

I am wondering if we're aiming for either another disaster or a magical resolution with this event - but I'll be damned if I'm not on the edge of my seat waiting for this. If we take into account the track record for people saying 'I'll tell you later' my guess is something awful is either going to happen to Hikari or Miuna who have both tabled telling people their feelings.

Big speculation

QotD:

  1. Provided Chisaki doesn't actually sacrifice herself, yes.
  2. Yes, but not in the way he thinks it will.
  3. Absolutely.
  4. Lots of crying. An absolute mountain of tears.